Lindsay Graham calls anti-immigration activists "bigots"
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From memory, after watching two snippets minutes ago on a Fox News segment hosted by Michele Malkin with Newt Gingrich as the guest.
Apparently, at an awards dinner sponsored by "La Raza", Lindsay Graham commented on the activists lining up against the immigration bill. He said, "We're gonna tell the bigots to shut up..."
The video is now on YouTube, and I would link to it if I knew what the hell I was doing.
Another little snippet came from Chertoff, and the quote is courtesy of PowerPundit. He was apparently talking to Wolf Blitzer:
"You know, Wolf, first, I understand there's some people who expect anything other than capital punishment is an amnesty."
I do not know what to say. Help me fill in the blanks, and please, please tell me that something has been taken out of context or misunderstood.
I wonder how different things would be if millions of Canadians were invading our country. Without the race card in play, a theoretical Canadian invasion would probably be dealt with rather swiftly.
Why do you think Canada is so empty?
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Gone 2500 years, still not PC.
Being a Texan like I am, Canada is as foreign to me as Nepal or the Congo. But rumors have it that the winters are bone-chilling affairs, and the place has been under liberal control for decades.
I'd invade the USA too.....
Oh yeah, and they play hockey up there like GIRLS!
It's war -- so when can we start shooting back at the enemy Democrats?
at a La Raza affair.
on the immigration issue. Check out a few stories from South Carolina.
SC Nazi for President, #1 Issue is Illegal Immigration:
http://www.columbiacitypaper.com/2007/2/15/s-c-nazi-for-president
Nazi's March in South Carolina State Capitol to Protest Illegal Immigration:
http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cache:FYf4qRacY0gJ:www.thestate.com/154/s...
If I'm a bigot for wanting to keep our borders secure, then so be it.
I can't help, nor do I give a damn, about the platform of the American nazi Party.
I'm talking about the bigots in Graham's home state who have been protesting against his position.
don't agree with Graham or McCain?
Your definition of "bigot" is a little loose Bobby. Not that that surprises me.
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with him is a bigot. I don't take his comments that way. I really doubt he would tell every other US Senator and House member who disagrees with him they are bigots. Correct me if I'm missing something in his comments.
But let's be clear, Graham is telling the "bigots" to shut up. And frankly seeing how there are some absolutely awful people in his state protesting his position, people who could legitimately be called bigots, do you really care if he tells them to shut up?
I'm just saying that there are Race Hustlers out there that support Graham's position.
See how constructive this is?
Real change requires real change. -Newt Gingrich
The point I'm making is that people who don't have an argument often times resort to name-calling, like BIGOTS. People that inject the issue of race where it's not appropriate are Race Hustlers. These Race Hustlers say "this guy over here supports your idea and he's a racist, therefore, you're a racist". Or, "If you're white and you disagree with a non-white, you're a bigot".
Generally, people use the race issue in innapproriate ways because they don't have any good arguements to support their position. These are Race Hustlers.
Straw bigots referred to Lindsay attacking imaginary people.
Real change requires real change. -Newt Gingrich
I know the difference between a bigot and someone who is not a bigot. It is not that difficult. I don't pay attention to bigots, and don't feel a need to tell them to shut up. The light of day will do that far more effectively than I ever could.
I reviewed again the comments Graham made, and he is clearly pandering to his audience. His statement "No one group owns what being an American is" made me furious. I have a very, very good idea of what it means to be an American, and twenty generations of my ancestors before me did too.
His comment came at the end of the speech. It was clear to me he was referring to opponents of this bill. PERIOD. He is a waste, a McCain suck up who better enjoy being Senator for now. I expect my friends in South Carolina to handle him when he runs for the Republican nomination next election.
supporters that they are bigots. Seeing that there is no reason to support his position, I guess he has decided he doesn't need his position anymore. He lost my vote a long time ago.
Graham is saying that those who disagree with him are bigots. that's exactly what he meant.
What you're missing is that name-calling is intended to silence dissent, nothing less.
So when you say, 'Graham is telling the "bigots" to shut up,' you're just pointing out that Graham is trying to shut up everybody who disagrees.
Besides, don't bigots have a right to make their opinions known, too?
We've traded our National Sovereignty for cheap roofing and yardwork.
Graham's words were what we'd expect from the likes of Ted Kennedy. Using such language and painting with such a broad brush is a thoroughly leftist tactic.
I mean, really, who talks like that? I'm sure it went over well with such a liberal audience, but does he think it will appeal to people who actually voted for him?
Then he needs to have the brains to figure out the difference between real bigots and concerns voiced from people whose relatives fought in Germany against real nazis - and scored.
But brains are in such short supply in DC.
_We've traded our National Sovereignty for cheap roofing and yardwork._
It sometime seems like brains (along with common sense) have been outlawed in that particular neck of the woods.
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Room-temp IQ Graham is McCain's punk.
BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
It's war -- so when can we start shooting back at the enemy Democrats?
so can I make such a guilt by association leap there, too?
Not that La Raza has any racists, communists, or socialists in its midst.
Didn't you have your comments ZOTTED from another thread on RedState the other day for this same sort of thing?
You know it's always preferable to make an argument. All I see here are innuendoes. If you have an argument to make, try to make it. Or are you a Race Hustler...
ywice for every one time he gets it right. He has been great on the war since the surge. He gets the overall war, but his disconnect on the border issue is bushianly stupid. He first said that those booing him were "emotional", and now he gets emotional and name calls.
pathetic
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Not everyone who is anti-immigrant is a bigot, but every bigot is anti-immigrant (though they usually make an exception for their own racial group). How to extract those who have a legitimate beef with immigration policy from those with whom you're unfortunately aligned with who simply hate latinos and asians and africans, etc.?
Graham is attacking the bigots. He recognizes that immigration policy can be seen as legitimate cover by certain racist groups. Be careful not to unintentionally put yourself in that group.
It's a tricky wicket.
Now, watch this drive.
Bzzzzzt. Graham was speaking to one of the most bigoted groups around when he made that comment at LaRaza. They are, by the way they define themselves, both bigoted and racist.
Graham is a disgusting airhead.
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Graham, and others who inject race into the issue of border security are Race Hustlers. Typical liberal argument: anyone who disagrees with me is a bigot.
They think they can get people to move away from a well-reasoned position to avoid being called a bigot. Let's hear a logical debate from the Race Hustler Graham, or anyone who agrees with him, why border security is bigotted.
Just curious. Is the word "jeebus" a Homer Simpson creation?
But Homer's use definitely popularized it (spelled "Jebus" I think) but this version has been around well before the Simpsons.
Super cool trivia: with only one exception I can remember, visual depictions of God on the Simpsons always show Him with 5 fingers on each hand, as opposed to the cartoonish 4 fingers on the hands of all other characters.
Doh!
Never noticed about the five fingers. thanks. I loved the episode related to church in which Homer ends up saved from a fire by Ned Flanders, Krusty (who is Jewish) and Apu (Hindu), after which Lovejoy, pointing to each of them in that order, gives the moral of the story about God inspiring people to care about one another "Be they Christian, Jewish, or... miscellaneous", to which Apu remarks "Hindu, sir, there are 700 million of us", and Lovejoy replies condescendingly, "Well, that's just super."
But Homer's use definitely popularized it (spelled "Jebus" I think) but this version has been around well before the Simpsons.
Super cool trivia: with only one exception I can remember, visual depictions of God on the Simpsons always show Him with 5 fingers on each hand, as opposed to the cartoonish 4 fingers on the hands of all other characters.
Doh!
Is it possible, is it even conceivable, that Lindsay Graham could be re-elected by the people of South Carolina?
Most voters are incredibly ill-informed and keep electing incumbants no matter how badly the incumbants shaft them.
And you can trust the GOP to do everything possible to sabotage any challenger to McCain in the SC Republican primary. After that happends then the people of SC will either have to vote for Graham in the General Election or elect a RAT.
Georgia. What a pompous little jackass/donkey/RINO. Martinez from my home state has at least an ethnic heritage motive---but being in favor of rewarding scofflaws ill befits a legislative body. Chertoff is incompetent and a commissar/neo-con turncoat. Gutierrez again has the ethnic background.
Interestingly, Bill Richardson told me 20 years ago that "silent integration" across the border was the US greatest national security problem---bigger than the USSR at the time. Until this year, he was for strict border controls, even calling out the NM national guard. But running for president made him jettison that bit of sanity---plus his mom lives in Mexico City and he is a brown-shoe Hispanic.
But the biggest pile of fecal material lives at 1600 PA Ave.
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To say bigots do not exist in the immigration debate is contra factual. Bigots are most often by their very nature, anti immigration monomaniacs. So they certainly exist in this debate whether out in the open or otherwise.
As noted in the company of La Raza, Mr. Graham throws out the proverbial “bigot” as a generalized means of displaying his displeasure with overall opposition to the bill and currying favor with the crowd at hand.
It is axiomatic to therefore say this is an obscured attempt at political tightrope, which provides an opportunity to later say his remarks were misinterpreted or taken out of context. I expect that explanation will come soon.
Unfortunately, Mr. Graham’s tactics belie true principled thought and is parsed vituperation inappropriately directed.
I do not support the immigration bill on sound, intellectual reasoning and am not, nor have ever been a bigot.
"Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori"
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Seems very simple. Yes, there are bigots among those who oppose the illegal immigrant bill, but it is not at all clear that they represent a substantial portion of that opposition. If Graham was not asserting (and substantiating the assertion) that bigots represent the majority or even a substantial minority of those opposing the bill, he should not have made the statement unless he was responding to a specific question about a specific group, and even under such circumstances one should point out that he is not conflating such a group with the broader opposition. I viewed the YouTube video and, while I don't have the full context, it appears that such were NOT the circumstances and he deserves criticism for that remark, not just because he is falsely accusing many people of bigotry, but because anytime someone cries wolf on bigotry it makes legitimate charges less credible, and because such comments inhibit legitimate debate by intimidating people with a McCarthyist threat of a strongly pejorative label.
The etymology of the word "Bigot" is said by some to come from the use of the term "By God" to denote an authoritative statement. In that sense, I am a bigot who believes in the rule of law.
This isn't the first time Graham has abandoned Republican principles - remember the "Gang of 14?" and it is to the shame of South Carolina that they keep electing this idiot.
Graham, reliably smeared by lefty kooks as a closeted, self-hating gay on the evidence that he doesn't have a woman on his arm, is comfortable tarring entire groups of patriots as 'bigots' because they disagree with his policy position??!
South Carolinians really do need to think about whether someone so dense should be representing them.
Graham is at times a demagogic publicity seeker. In many ways he is similar to the former SC democratic senator Lionel Hollings. I much prefer, the current SC governor Mark Sanford, who takes a much more thoughtful approach. I think Sanford would be a much better senator.
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Thanks gamecock. Must have had too much basketball on my mind lately. Got Fritz's first name confused with an old basketball player.
EVERYONE call Lindsey Graham's office and drive his staff INSANE. Make his staff quit in disgust.
(202) 224-5972
Seriously, that "bigot" comment just made me sick. Call him over and over. Tell them you live in SC if you have to.
stupid, asinine, liberal, John McCain's toy poodle, and light in the loafers. (seems that way to me anyways)
"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
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Did anyone else here about this?
...a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right...
---Thomas Paine---
...a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right...
---Thomas Paine---
Can we pleaseeeee pull a "Lieberman" on him?
Not just for this bill, or his view on interrogation techniques, but because he speaks with such pompousness, and feels it is necessary to be on every single Sunday Morning Show to hear his own voice, even when he has nothing to say.