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because I thought I was starting to "lose my berrings". But on a serious note if one of the drive-by's were doing there job, they would ask him why would he fire a guy for talking to Hamas? His rationale for wanting to talk to every thug dictator is that there a head of state. Well so what is the differance bewteen the Prime Minster of the Palestian government and Ahmednijad?

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He has zealous useful idiots who will firewalk with hydrogen-filled trial balloon for him. The ones who make it will get to rise to the next level. The ones who learn to wait for "Simon Says" will be his cabinet.

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could not give a satisfactory answer. Why, after all the anti semitism, and anti zionism, and disrespect for accomplishment from the democratic party do so many Jews still support them?

"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle

many times (btw, his book, "Why the Jews" is great)

Most Jews are secular. They traded in a demanding God for modern day liberalism for their religion. In one sense, they aren't Jews if they don't believe in the God and the Torah. They are "ethnic" Jews.

They worship undemanding leftism.

But, just as slavery should be loathed by whites just as much as whites, so should gentiles be able to discern the clear good v evil distinction between Israel and its culture of death enemies.

I really resent the msm's focus on what Jews think of Obama due to his alliance with evil culture of death Palestinians, as if it is not a basic moral question for all humans.

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In response to this comment, I Googled Prager's book, and found this article by Prager, "Why are so many Jews Liberal?" I read it, and as someone who is both Jewish and Liberal, I found a lot of it rather condescending. Apparently I am traumatized by the Holocaust and everything I think is shaped by that event; and apparently my religion is leftism. He writes about Liberal Jews like someone would write about the central character in a Greek Tragedy - like we are collectively a trainwreck to be examined so as to prevent others from falling into such a funk.

I think that smart, well-meaning people can disagree on most of the political stuff that is debated in the US. I don't think that the people who disagree with me are suffering from some sort of mental illness. I don't know if Prager does, but he sure sounds like it there.

In one sense, they aren't Jews if they don't believe in the God and the Torah.

As for who counts as Jewish, that in itself is a complicated question. There is quite the long Wikipedia article about it.

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to ALL liberals that have traded in God for modern day liberalism, whether they be ethnically identified with a religion or born into one (Christian, Jew, Zoroastrian, etc) and I mean to condescend to the group I used to wallow in lukewarm spue with.

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my answer applies to ALL liberals that have traded in God for modern day liberalism...

Question: How big of a portion of Liberals, in your estimation, does this apply to? All, most, a few, etc.?

(if I am reading this right you are not necessarily saying that all Liberals have done this, just that your answer applies to all Liberals that have done this.)

I mean to condescend to the group I used to wallow in lukewarm spue with.

Meanie.

egg head-university-media-hollywood dems. I don't know, 15-20%? But they control the party via money and power.

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what is actually said?

you said: " I don't know if Prager does, but he sure sounds like it there."

pitiful

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Why is what I said a strawman? Where'd I misrepresent what he said? I am asking this in good faith, because I really think he is wrong and don't want my argument to have rested on a straw man.

you said: " I don't know if Prager does, but he sure sounds like it there."

pitiful

Why is this pitiful? I don't want to say "Prager thinks his political opponents suffer from a mental illness" because I don't know the guy, and am not an expert on him. But that doesn't change the fact that it sounds to me like he is treating Liberal Jews as such.

As for countering his argument, all I can say is that this describes neither me nor most Liberal Jewish people I know. Sure, I know Liberal Jews who only have kneejerk Liberal views rather than anything well-thought-out, but that describes people of all politics that I know, not just Jews and not just Liberals.

I am not going to make such sweeping characterizations of such a large group as Liberal Jews, especially such a negative one, without anything but anecdotal evidence from my own life. Nor with conservatives. I don't see how that is pitiful.

and look at this after I get back from Church and see if I went too far.

For now, you are on strawman probation!

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"I don't think that the people who disagree with me are suffering from some sort of mental illness. I don't know if Prager does, but he sure sounds like it there."

Just go with what is said. Prager is into clarity, is not afraid to say what he means.

that's all

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you seem to think Prager says.

Apology for the use of the term pitiful, but

In order to analyze people, it is oftentimes necessary to make generalizations. We must not take that personal. Prager never says "all".

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NETANYAHU: They have differences among them. You know, some of the most staunchest conservatives in the United States are Jewish, and some of the most staunchest liberals are Jewish, so there are different views. I have enough in my politics in Israel not to get into...

(CROSSTALK)

BECK: Sure, not to get into ours.

NETANYAHU: ... American politics. And I have enough Jewish politics in Israel, by the way, more than you can imagine.

I think Netanyahu deftly ducked giving a direct answer to the question.

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