Sununu for VP?

By RandomGuy Posted in Comments (24) / Email this page » / Leave a comment »

http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Vice+President+Sununu%3...

I hadn't even thought of it, but it makes sense in a lot of ways.

Positives:

- Sununu is from a swing state.
- Young (43, youngest in Senate), but doesn't seem too "Boyish".
- Well liked by conservatives, but has something of a "Maverick" reputation.
- Really, really smart. (MIT BA and MA in Engineering, MBA from Harvard)

Negatives:

- From a small state.
- We'd lose his Senate Seat almost for sure (but we might lose it anyway).
- Not well known.

Anybody have any thoughts?

In a word, no. by St. Louis Conservative

Nobody from the senate, and he has no executive experience in government.

“.....women and minorities hardest hit”

The second one I could buy, although I don't agree, but why the first?

"I will look for people in the cast of John Roberts, Samuel Alito, and my friend the late William Rehnquist – jurists of the highest caliber who know their own minds, and know the law, and know the difference." - John McCain

and that was Warren Harding. (Yes I know about JFK but he more than likely aided by voter fraud) and having two sitting members of the Senate on the ticket is not a good historical trend.

McCain '08

Lacking perspective. by RandomGuy

A. But there will be another this year regardless.
B. VP is an entirely different story anyway. Gore was VP directly from the Senate, so was Johnson, Nixon, Truman, among several others.

"I will look for people in the cast of John Roberts, Samuel Alito, and my friend the late William Rehnquist – jurists of the highest caliber who know their own minds, and know the law, and know the difference." - John McCain

Gore, Nixon, and Truman all shared the ticket with a non-Senator.

P.S. There is an old political science concept called ticket balancing you might want to look up.

...a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right...

---Thomas Paine---

Riggghhtt... by RandomGuy

And balancing is always the right approach, and it's always about what office they hold.

I'll remember that.

It wouldn't be about, say, balancing geography, age, etc.

I'm not saying your concern is illegitimate, but you're being awfully narrow.

The Senate thing won't mater this time, I think. It'll be hard for either side to attack the other side because the front man on both sides will be a Senator with no executive experience.
"I will look for people in the cast of John Roberts, Samuel Alito, and my friend the late William Rehnquist – jurists of the highest caliber who know their own minds, and know the law, and know the difference." - John McCain

"The Senate thing won't mater this time, I think. It'll be hard for either side to attack the other side because the front man on both sides will be a Senator with no executive experience."

Each side is vulnerable to attacks based on their candidates' respective voting records in the Senate. A second Senator on the ticket just compounds this vulnerability.

Ideally political parties probably should never run Senators for the Office of the Presidency, but if a party ends up with a Senator on their respective ticket balancing out vulnerabilities becomes essential. McCain needs someone that adds to his strengths, but also counteracts or at least does not add to his vulnerabilities.

...a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right...

---Thomas Paine---

Senators have long easily accessed voting records, which almost always contain several votes that can be easily demagogued by the opposition. Moreover, a VP should add a certain degree of electability to the ticket. I do not believe that Sununu will materially help McCain, but even if Sununu does add value to the ticket his impact would probably be limited only to New Hampshire (a very small state McCain will probably win). The ideal VP is a highly popular governor, ex governor from PA, OH, or a significantly sized Midwestern swing state.

...a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right...

---Thomas Paine---

Proof?

Just because he's Lebanese doesn't mean he's bad on Israel. He's been a little more pro-Lebanese then others, but he's hardly been "really bad" on Israel.

And he's anything but weak in the WOT. I hope you aren't saying his work to make slight changes to the Patriot Act to insert some safeguards, which most national security conservatives agreed with, indicates he's weak on the WOT>

"I will look for people in the cast of John Roberts, Samuel Alito, and my friend the late William Rehnquist – jurists of the highest caliber who know their own minds, and know the law, and know the difference." - John McCain

Unless GOP wants to lose the by operationchaos

Unless GOP wants to lose the white house for sure, bring him on.

He will very likely lose that senate seat soon, let alone be a viable V.P candidate.

Huh?

A. Your sentences don't make sense. I think you're making the opposite point that your first sentence actually says.
B. Give reasons.

"I will look for people in the cast of John Roberts, Samuel Alito, and my friend the late William Rehnquist – jurists of the highest caliber who know their own minds, and know the law, and know the difference." - John McCain

Interesting thought by Darin H

Really interesting.

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I thought so. I can't by RandomGuy

I thought so. I can't figure out why it hasn't been mentioned before. It makes a lot of sense.

"I will look for people in the cast of John Roberts, Samuel Alito, and my friend the late William Rehnquist – jurists of the highest caliber who know their own minds, and know the law, and know the difference." - John McCain

but there's something wrong about it. I can't quite put my finger on it. I feel like I have something to say about it, but can't articulate it. Maybe I'll just have to think about it for a while.

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I like it but... by shooflyguy68

Sununu is a good libertarian leaning Republican. On principle, I'm all for it, but there are a couple of problems.

1. He's not likely to bring NH into the R column since it looks like he's in danger of losing his Senate seat in November. McCain should, IMO, select someone that will help him carry a swing state.
2. He has no executive experience. I'd like to see McCain chose a governor if possible.

1. It is true he may lose, but he's still a down-home boy and McCain is already doing well in NH, especially against Obama.
2. Fair enough, but again, neither do a lot of VP people. I guess it would be less of an issue if McCain himself had executive experience.

I'm not necessarily for it, but there are far worse choices. I like Sununu better then Sanford or Pawlenty personally.

"I will look for people in the cast of John Roberts, Samuel Alito, and my friend the late William Rehnquist – jurists of the highest caliber who know their own minds, and know the law, and know the difference." - John McCain

Training and experience as a military officer in times of war historically works as a proxy for "executive experience."

...a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right...

---Thomas Paine---

Regarding #2 by Aetius728

Was he not White House Chief of Staff in the past? Or is that a memory that I pulled out of nowhere?(which happens frequently)

I think his father was in the George H.W. Bush Administration, but I reserve the right to be wrong on this comment.

...a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right...

---Thomas Paine---

Yah, his father. by RandomGuy

"I will look for people in the cast of John Roberts, Samuel Alito, and my friend the late William Rehnquist – jurists of the highest caliber who know their own minds, and know the law, and know the difference." - John McCain

no by dingo

Not only wouldn't Sununu help McCain in the state, but he also wouldn't be able to do the "political job" of the VP. As we all know, the VP is supposed to be an indefatiguable attack dog, and 1) Sununu is known for his laziness in campaigning(See a recent CQ article) and 2) he doesn't seem to be an attack dog.


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