Time for a discussion on race

By SanDiego92108 Posted in Comments (5) / Email this page » / Leave a comment »

Pat Buchanan has gone a litle bats lately, but his article on race is one of the best I've read:

Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America.

Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation. White America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to.

This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions, grievances and demands heard. And among them are these:

First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa i n slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.

Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.

Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the '60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.

Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks -- with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas -- to advance black applicants over white applicants.

Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.

We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude?

Barack talks about new "ladders of opportunity" for blacks.

Let him go to Altoona and Johnstown , and ask the white kids in Catholic schools how many were visited lately by Ivy League recruiters handing out scholarships for "deserving" white kids.
Is white America really responsible for the fact that the crime and incarceration rates for African-Americans are seven times those of white America ? Is it really white America's fault that illegitimacy in the African-American community has hit 70 percent and the black dropout rate from high schools in some cities has reached 50 percent ?

Is that the fault of white America or, first and foremost, a failure of the black community itself?

As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of violence. Is Barack Obama aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time, black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?

Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in th e first three years of this decade as the reverse?

We have all heard adnauseam from the Rev. Al about Tawana Brawley, the Duke rape case and Jena . And all turned out to be hoaxes. But about the epidemic of black assaults on whites that are real, we hear nothing.

Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago.

Some tips. by Elizabeth

Hi SanDiego,

Just some tips on standards for blogs around here. In an entry like this, it's a good idea to provide a link to your source:

A Brief For Whitey

(If you don't know how to do this, see Neil Steven's HTML Help Central for Red Staters.)

It's also expected that rather than simply cutting and pasting from the original article, you provide your own comments and insights on the article.

Hope this helps in the future!

Elizabeth
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"'You come of the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve,' said Aslan. 'And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor on earth. Be content.'" -- C.S. Lewis' "Prince Caspian"

I'd be very, very careful with this topic. While I believe some discussion on this issue is warranted in the country right now, I've seen a lot of people get themselves into hot water very quickly here, as the moderators have, understandably, tried to protect the site from genuine racists.
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"'You come of the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve,' said Aslan. 'And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor on earth. Be content.'" -- C.S. Lewis' "Prince Caspian"

However, there were these passages where Pat just didn't quite get it.

Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the '60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.

I think Pat doesn't understand how insulting that much of a hand up can really be. There's the implication that Herman Cain, Colin Powell or Condilizza Rice wouldn't be where they were w/o the hand-outs. That's not an implication I would ever want my name or ideology associated with.

We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude?

That thump thump you just heard was a decent and honorable, hard-working African-American who never walked up to a white man and asked for these hand-outs connecting a Right Jab to Pat Buchanan's jaw and leaving him down for the count.

Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago.

Here, however, Pat Buchanan speaks logically. He speaks like a true Jacksonian who has heard the lies and bs and is sick of being the bottomless tax-well from which this money is supposed flow. For The White Al Sharpton, this was astute and well stated.

"I believe we must adjourn this meeting to some other place." - The last recorded words of Adam Smith.

of Pat Buchanan being the White Al Sharpton. The further he stays away from race relations, the better.



Now also found at The Minority Report

Ever met Jim Crow? by SteveLA

SanDiego

Your comments on Pitchfork Pat's column have a lot of merit, but you might want to tread lightly on this topic in my view as it might be really hard for someone who has not experienced institutionalized racism first hand to completely grasp the deepness of the wound that many African Americans feel.

I'm of the age and grew up where I actually experienced Jim Crow laws first hand in the South, and it's not something you forget. In my case I was a white young person who did not understand why there were these laws that told black people not to drink at this water fountain, or sit at this table or use this toilet in town but those laws did not exist at least on the surface of things out on the base.

Please don't misread the above comments as any sort of sharp pointed object being pushed your way, your comments are thoughtful and the dialog is one that needs to happen, but this is one of those topics that is darn hard.

Thanks for putting up a blog on this topic, there are things that need to be talked about when it comes to race. I think Republicans can have that discussion, Democrats not so much as they are always looking for the victim and who to blame.

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