GOP Has Been Down This Road Before


Looking Back at the New York Times on Nov. 5, 1992

This was the New York Times’ post-election analysis exactly 16 years ago today, Nov. 5, 1992, a day after Bill Clinton defeated President George H.W. Bush:

The Democrats came out of the political wilderness on Tuesday. The Republicans entered it.

The Democrats set aside all the self-doubts, the years of feeling on the wrong side of history, the election nights when the proud party of Roosevelt, Truman and Kennedy seemed consigned to a painful irrelevance.

Ahead is the challenge of governing, and the clear accountability that comes with controlling both Congress and the White House. No more political cover for the Democrats, no more room for fingerpointing between Capitol Hill and the White House, no more excuses.

But the Republicans face the hard, brutal struggle of deciding who they are, resolving the tensions between moderates, conservatives, evangelical Christians, country-clubbers, supply-siders, suburbanites — all the disparate elements held together by Ronald Reagan that collapsed under President Bush.

Sound familiar?

Here’s another interesting paragraph from the same article:

Centrist Democrats viewed the Clinton candidacy as a vindication of their long struggle to push the party to the center, to broaden its base and reconnect with the middle class, to shatter the view that the party was a mere collection of liberal constituent groups. But the Rev. Jesse Jackson, a principal spokesman for the party’s left, asserted yesterday that Mr. Clinton’s victory was largely a result of broader forces: a bad economy, the votes of blacks energized by black candidacies this year and the mobilization of women by what he calls “the Anita Hill factor.”


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dejavue

gekster (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 12:01AM EST (link)

I’ve been here before. And it will happen again. And I will see it again, unless I die. And I don’t think I will care about any of this if that happens. At least I think I wont care.

They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.

We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway

Ok folks, 2012 is here. Get involved

 

Sounds familiare, except...............

Kenny Solomon (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 12:05AM EST (link)

I’m fairly sure Bill Clinton wasn’t/isn’t a Marxist. The man was ‘not exactly’ what we like to see in a President, but he was not seemingly out to destroy The Republic.

Our very liberty, sovereignty and freedom as a people is at stake with the person who was just elected to be “point” for the next four years.

As bizarre as things got under ‘Ol Billy Boy, you somehow had the knowledge he wasn’t going to overturn The Constitution and Bill Of Rights, socialize all that is our economy, bring on the next great depression and appease madmen.

Can you say the same of our next president ?

I cannot.

 

Clinton

Janice Cantore Thursday, November 6th at 12:16AM EST (link)

I never thought I say I miss Clinton, but The One is downright scary. And he makes Clinton look like Rush Limbaugh.

Janice Cantore

 

not just down this road... but kicking rocks the whole way

Michael Parrish (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 12:39AM EST (link)

look, it’s not that hard to keep it under control…

if our leadership lacks this much self-discipline they need to resign and be replaced with people who can exercise restraint.

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We've been down this bad, and picked ourselves up

gensec (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 12:39AM EST (link)

You make an excellent point. It’s supported by the numbers – the Democrats’ margins in the electoral college, House and Senate are very similar to the 1992 election.

Secy. of State Shultz was right about DC, nothing ever gets settled in this town.

I have a little, ahem, hope.

Darin_H (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 12:44AM EST (link)

Look at how many people were fed to the Obamabus. He threw his pastor of 20 years under it, the guy married him and his wife! He tossed Grandma under it. Goolsbee – thump thump.

Much like the Clintons, Barack Obama is all about Barack Obama. Whatever will help him is what he’s going to do. That has its advantages. I could be wrong, of course.

A visionary coward says that anger can be power, as long as there’s a victim on TV – Flat Top, Goo Goo Dolls

 
 

I hate New York Times. My family will never read that paper again ever.

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 2:38AM EST (link)

For me, the biggest loser in the recently concluded election is the MSM. Journalism in America is dead.

Let a new, balanced news firm be born and challenge the legacy media.

 

Except

Hera Thursday, November 6th at 3:58AM EST (link)

In 1992 we had not been attacked with 3000 dead in the streets. Now we are in the midst of two wars and an economic crisis with an unapologetic socialist in charge.We also have a totally corrupt MSM that is willing to cover for the new leader and his party. With a Democratic party that is willing to do literally anything including sacrifice lives and national security in order to retain power.The destruction of the presidency or GWB and the leaking of national security secrets by the NYT and other members of the MSM were all about the pursuit of power. Decency, fairness and civility are gone from the left and the lapdog media just ask Sarah Palin and her husband and children.

The worst you could say about Clinton was that he was a draft dodger and skirt chaser with a shrill wife out to nationalize health care and allow gays in the military.Clinton was also a former Gov with executive experience who had attempted to moderate his position and his party with the DLC. He was not a junior Senator with no executive experience or an unapologetic radical with people in his background like Ayers and Wright. I also don’t recall Clinton being endorsed by the dictators of Cuba, Iran and Venezuela. Things are very different this time, back then Rush was optimistic and wrote two best sellers. For all of Clinton’s faults he was not someone who was in a position to destroy what this country stands for while endangering national security.

No, Hera. At the end of Bush Presidency, Iraq war has been won.

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 4:55AM EST (link)

It’s now under the hands of Obama how he keeps the sacrifices we’ve made (our money and dead soldiers). He needs to make something good out of it. If it gets worse in his presidency, no one is to be blamed anymore but Obama.

In addition, he has to ensure that NO 9/11 will ever happen again. That’s the price we paid by 4000 soldiers and almost trillion of dollars spent against War on Terrorism.

Plus, a US President must declare that the War on Terror is over. Let’s see if Bush or Obama does the declaration.

As some political analysts say, the next president is just a one-term president. Let’s keep it that way.

Darin, just wait in 2 years and see what our country will become.

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 5:03AM EST (link)

If it is good, ensure that another term for the first Black President.

If it is bad, all hopes and changes will be proven “false” and “lies”.

But there is a good thing:

We are already in a Post-Racial America.

Blacks are no longer minority. Just look at the color of the President, the most powerful man in America.

Let us just accept that Obama’s rise in power is one of the greatest story of American Dreams. A real story indeed. American dream works even for a socialist or a commie in America.

If somebody asks us for charity, we can even say “Go to WH” and ask “whatever” to the Unselfish President.

Rod, the problem is worldview

seattle_ite Thursday, November 6th at 6:00AM EST (link)

WE see it as a noble sacrifice by our troops and of our dollars.

Barack, and his supporters, see that as a total waste.

THAT’s what I find insulting.

 
 
 
 

Lead by example...

Vinnster Thursday, November 6th at 6:14AM EST (link)

If the Republicans want to taken seriously ever again they can start today by EVERY one of them publically stating, as a group, on the Congress steps to NEVER take an earmark or pork home again. Tell their constituents they are in Washington to run the country not bring home goodies for the voters.

Reeducate their constituents “”Ask not what your country can do for you -ask what you can do for your country.”

How crazy would it be for a Republican to run on the platform…Vote for me, I will not go to Washington to bring you back pork. Do not expect me to bring money back here for some park or walking trail, if you want that, get together and make it happen yourself. I go to Washington to do the countries business and nothing more…part of that is to not loot the public trust and I promise to fight to prevent any other Congressman trying to bring home pork…I will not wink at my colleagues and say I will vote for your pork if you vote for mine…. expect nothing from me but to ensure the safety of the country and the reduction of spending. My first initiative will be work to mandate starting in the first grade, the teaching of self-reliance and all that goes with it.

If this had been done in 1994 when we had a majority spending would be under control and we would have a generation of graduates chafing at the bit to go forth and be entrepreneurs and we would probably have a super majority in both houses..instead we have another generation of young adults with the entitlement mentality barely able to tie their shoes without looking for assistance.

OTOH, they oppo's aren't letting us be parents.

seattle_ite Thursday, November 6th at 6:21AM EST (link)

Can’t spank, or ground for more than a day, without the school system finding out that ‘you’re an intolerant monster’.

 
 

Worse this time

Neil1030 Thursday, November 6th at 7:00AM EST (link)

I wish I were more confident or could draw more parallels from 1992. But I think we are looking at an even worse situation. The demographics are shifting. I have to wonder if states (and districts) like VA, NM, IA and others aren’t gone permanently. Even if 0bama screws up I think the Dems will not suffer much for it in 2010. I hope I am wrong but 0bama has been made so god like I fear most of those who voted for him Tues. will still stand with him. I suppose one difference though is that he will not be on the ballot in 2 years.

Things were looking down when Clinton won but at least we still had IN, VA, and FL in the red column then. Our only hope, IMO, is that when 0bama lurches far to the left and tries to take more of everyone’s income, that this might convince some moderates and independents to turn back into Republicans.

I agree seattle

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 7:17AM EST (link)

But further aggravating the situation that will cost additional lives of the troops and more dollars spent will nolonger be a purview of the Republicans.

Obama will now a hands-on to this issue. And he can nolonger claim that he is always “right”.

It’s now Obama’s “actions” vs. his “words”.

Note that McCain has promised a new horizon on this that has been supported by the Republicans, but rejected by the Americans as per the result of this election.

It’s a new ballgame, seattle. We must start emphasizing that. The fight should start now.

Let Obama swallow his own pill:

No rest for the Wicked!

I'm sorry; but I don't buy it.

Shawn Gillogly (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 7:23AM EST (link)

That’s MSM talk that the demographics are shifting away from conservatives and we can’t win.

We were told we couldn’t win before 76. We were told when I was a kid we would NEVER, EVER win the House back. It was forgone even in Conservative publications we would never win in the House back in the 80s.

Demographics have been used before to say we can’t win…in fact it was in 92 as well. The “Reagan Coalition” was broken, we were told. Only to find it reconstructed in 2000.

We DO have to learn to articulate our views and educate voters again on why the Left is wrong. And we can’t expect voters to think that we are being conservative when we lurch into big-government solutions like the bailout.

Latinos are not off-limits to Republicans. On a number of SoCon issues, they are more comfortable with us than they are the Left. There’s room for us to invite them into the tent without making a sluice of our south border. We just have to find balance. And dialogue with them rather than talking at them would be a good place to start.

“Liberals are always talking about pluralism, but that is not what they mean. In public school, Jews don’t meet Christians. Christians don’t meet Hindus. Everybody meets nothing.”- Dennis Prager

 
 
 

And do you know what we did?

Jack_Savage (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 7:25AM EST (link)

Articulated conservative principles, clearly, consistently and without apology.

FWIW, check what the economy and market did for six straight years after 1994.

Consider How He Got Here

BucksCountyMike Thursday, November 6th at 7:26AM EST (link)

Apart from the recession (cum depression) the NYT is joyously heralding, Mr. Obama has made (or has had inferred) promises that his core constituencies will want to see fulfilled. For Example: Peggy the Moocher wants her Mortgage Paid and her Gas Tank kept filled (inferred). 95% of the 52% of Americans who voted for him want tax cuts (promised) and free health care insurance (promised & inferred). College students want their student loans forgiven or highly subsidized (promised & inferred). And 95% of the 50% of the rich who voted for B. Hussein want their guilt assuaged by being whacked at tax time (sure to be delivered). Consider the upheaval when these and the myriad of other real and imagined promises are not delivered. “What happens to a dream deferred, does it whither in the sun?”… Let’s prepare for 2010 (particularly in state house races to prevent wild redistricting) and 2012 when, with new energy, we can return to our conservative roots and to growing our Country.

Amen to that, bro.

seattle_ite Thursday, November 6th at 7:34AM EST (link)

I knew it was only a matter of time, before the troops got fragged by the media and lefties. Sad to see it once in my life, but twice?

JC, it’s hard to be sensible, in a senseless world.

I hope the new guy doesn’t fold, or sell us out. Slim hope, to be sure.

Sadly, that didn't last.

seattle_ite Thursday, November 6th at 7:40AM EST (link)

They got comfortable with the almighty Majority, and started letting the town corrupt them. God knows, I’m not immune to temptation, but I was a sailor; morals don’t always sink in well. These are supposed to be ‘the best and brightest’, or at least better educated than an old salt like me. If I can keep my zipper up, and not steal from my neighbor, it should be pretty easy for our elected leaders to follow my humble example.

 
 
 
 

That's it,

pwest (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 8:14AM EST (link)

everyone understands how we got here; we lost our Conservative principles: smaller government, less spending, and competency!

You put the above together as well as the leadership void left by President Bush, who after Katrina, spent his remaining political capital on the Surge in Iraq, and you get President Elect Obama.

We’ve been at war, and the American Public is tired. They want to be led, and Obama’s ability to, as Rush put’s it, “say nothing better than any one else,” convinced enough of them that he is the One to do it.

Pam

 

Be sure and read this

txchick57 (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 8:22AM EST (link)

it certainly amused me.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122593259568103473.html

The Kentucky Senator boasts of PORK

FrankAtl Thursday, November 6th at 8:58AM EST (link)

Mitch had a tough fight so I do sympathize, a little.

But his campaign which proclaimed how many earmarks he has already provided his good constituents and how much more his seniority is yet to yield, DESTROYED his leadership in representing conservative principles.

Who is the Jeff Flake of the Senate? We need him to step forward.

Exactly.

AncientTom (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 9:08AM EST (link)

We (conservatives) have been in the wilderness since 1988. Sure Ronald Reagan got elected a third time, but when people figured out Bush Sr. wasn’t Reagan they threw him out. We could have responded with a true conservative, but the country club wing prevailed and we got Bob Dole. Then they threw conservatives a bone with the cultural conservative W – but his lack of leadership, inability to put a coherent sentence together, and his love of social programs has left us in the same 1992 disarray.
Conservatism works when articulated properly.

All we have to do to win is field a candidate who spends a year locked in a room reading everything Ronald Reagan ever said or wrote, believes it, and articulates it. Simple.

 
 
 

We have ALL been down this road before.

LiberalNutJob Thursday, November 6th at 9:08AM EST (link)

Those of you who have curiosity about the long view, I think you’ll find support here.

It’s long, but those who appreciate history — and are unfamiliar with the rise and fall of American political parties and their attendant ideologies of the moment — will find it illuminating.

Cheers.

It's that kind of state.

Canthros (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 9:33AM EST (link)

You don’t live here, so I’m going to assume that you don’t understand the first thing about Kentucky politics, but the state isn’t some conservative utopia of hard-nosed individuals willing to take it in the shorts for the sake of their principles. The state and local governments are dominated by Democrats. The state is dominated by the interests of two cities fighting over which can be the most like anywhere else, balanced against the needs of folks in outlying areas who farm tobacco, mine coal, make bourbon, raise horses, or make cars. Lots of blue dogs here.

If you were paying attention, you might have noticed that Ernie Fletcher, who was ousted in 2007, was our first Republican governor in 30-plus years. He was almost immediately hamstrung by the Commonwealth’s Attorney General spending the next four years pursuing a positively asinine investigation surrounding Kentucky’s merit hiring policies, which had two misdemeanors and pile of character assassination as its only significant outcome. Fletcher only got elected in the first place because his opponent in 2003 had been too closely tied to the scandal-ridden outgoing governor.

McConnell’s not perfect. But the alternative to him here isn’t likely to be a Tom Coburn. It’ll be some empty suit of a liberal like we’ve now got in the state’s third congressional district. Now, instead of Northup’s work on funding a couple of bridges that were needed to deal with increasing traffic across the existing, aging bridges, we have federal funding for … parks. You won’t get less pork by replacing McConnell. You will get stupider pork, and you will lose a Republican seat in the Senate.

This too shall pass.

 
 

It can be done

renegade Thursday, November 6th at 9:34AM EST (link)

In 1992 the media was also fully in the tank for Clinton. Remember the Carol Simpson moderated debate with her smarmy “let’s ask the education president” and Ted Kopell the topic every night on NightLine for 3 months leading up to the election was Iran-Contra. The week before the election, Cat Weinburger was charged for Iran Contra and miraculously Georgie Stephanopolous calls in Larry King while Bush was the guest the Friday before the election pounding him on the Iran Contra, and Weinburger’s indictment while King sat there and shrugged his shoulders. As a matter of fact the Clinton campaign released a press release commenting on the indictment the day before anyone even knew about it.

The 1994 republican revolution was the master stroke of Gingrich. He ran a national campaign on local races. He proved once again conservatism wins elections. Whoever is the nominee on 2012 must do what Reagan and Ginrich did, not just have a strategy to beat the democrat but have a strategy to beat the media.

 

Quit Yer Crying

Guerc Thursday, November 6th at 9:59AM EST (link)

This is fundamentally a Center-Right country. The politicians will overreach, as they always do, and will get slapped back by the electorate. It always happens.

I live in SF Bay Area. You should have seen the utter despair and grief by the Libs in both 00 and 04, when they were shown the door. They were absolutely devastated. The same articles were written, showing how demographics had forever changed and the libs were relegated to a permanent minority.

The difference is this: We don’t run away to Canada, and we don’t try to undermine the nation’s security.

Americans like to have divided government. I guarantee that if we can present a competent case for less government intrusion, more personal freedom, strong defense, and fiscal restraint, we will have our rightful place in leadership.

Intrusion

Horatio Thursday, November 6th at 10:29AM EST (link)

It’s tough to make a case for less government intrusion when a key tenet of the modern GOP is more government intrusion. Less government intrusion is a good message and one that Americans respond to. But being seen as the party of government spying tends to undercut that message.

For the record.

Vinnster Thursday, November 6th at 10:45AM EST (link)

I consider a certifiably needed bridge as, not being pork…I do consider a park, pork.

One is a “need” the other is a “want”.

 
 
 

Maybe if they didn't spend money like my ex-wife, we wouldn't be here again.

NightTwister (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 10:55AM EST (link)

Not to mention the corruption fiasco.

Quite honestly there are many Republicans in congress that are nearly indistinguishable from their counterparts except for the little elephant on their lapel.

The foundation of any new platform for the GOP must be open, honest, ethical behavior. Without that, many conservatives will remain skeptical.

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill

Pat Toomey looks at a survey

ColoKid Thursday, November 6th at 11:02AM EST (link)

of 12 Rep held CDs in this WSJ article. Eleven of the CDs went for the Dems, but the survey showed that the majority of voters supported conservative principles –e.g., smaller government, less government spending and regulation, etc. Toomey concluded that the electorate had not shifted to the left; it was a classic “throw the bums out” election to get rid of the big government, free-spending Rep incumbents.

It is a disease...

izoneguy (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 11:08AM EST (link)

…chronic spending & buying. It is hard to break the habit. I know folks that have lost houses, cars & jobs and still spend like they have millions of dollars. The Congress is the same way.
The party won’t be over until the well really does run dry. Someday -maybe 10-20 years from now it will finally hit.
And we will be able to trace it back to the democrats and how Obama just opened up the crack store and dispensed free crack to a nation of addicts.

The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.

 
 
 

The Road from Here

Decathlon_Man Thursday, November 6th at 11:19AM EST (link)

In my view, the End of the Revolution was in late 2001. In the aftermath of 9/11, the Congress voted huge chunks of unaccountable cash – $25 billion in the first round for New York. Which was sniffed at as insufficient, so they rolled up their sleeves and went for another huge chunk – can’t remember the amount, but I believe it was approximately the same. A few brave Republican House members (I think Flake was one) were hammered for questioning the need for accountability. He said, we’ll give you another $5B, then come back and ask for more as you need it.

Both parties then looked around and realized – there were no negative consequences to spending tens of billions of taxpayer dollars. After that, it was off to the races. Thus the Farm Bill, the Transportation Bill and, the savior of the Republican Party, the Medicare Prescription Drug bill.

Thus the corruption in both parties, with asymmetrical attention to the Republicans (Cunningham big news, Jefferson no news at all). Then 2006, now this.

To get “from here to there” all this is needed is a consistent attention to the core conservative principles, the development of market-oriented policies to address the “ills” of education, healthcare, etc. – and some great, visible communicators. I would like to see Gingrich as head of the RNC, and some Young Turks from the House step forward into leadership roles.

With the inevitable disasters of the Obama Presidency – overreaching, a fracturing of the Democrat party into coalitions, and Hillary revving up her primary challenge in 2012, the entire situation could be so different, and so much better, by 2010.

decathlon man

 

need to screen candidates

James_Reynolds (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 11:19AM EST (link)

at the level of the houses. Some people run on a party ticket just because they are the ones favorable in societies eyes. We need to make sure candidates in primaries are probed enough to fish out the coat-tailers

This is the crux of the real danger

baserunr (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 11:44AM EST (link)

that the country now faces. To some extent, GHW Bush, Bill Clinton, and GW Bush had modest agendas. They didn’t want to do REALLY BIG things, just sort of make a slight course correction here or there. The radicals and militants are now in charge. Obama has big ideas, for big changes. Those left on our side in congress must be effective at the legislative art of playing guerilla style, until the forces are sufficiently strong enough to battle openly. The new leaders need to be very effective at parlimentary manuvering as well as maintaining esprit-de-corps, or the next 2 years will feel like 20.

“The day you think you know it all is the day your trouble starts.”

Libs favor the Nanny State.

Guerc Thursday, November 6th at 12:34PM EST (link)

Then let’s let the Libs own the mantle of Government Intrusion. Obama voted for “domestic spying”, don’t you recall? Now he has to wear that vote.

The Libs will come up with an endless list of Nanny State rules. Limits on fast-food restaurants. Warnings labels on candy. Subsidies for un-economic “green” energy. Cars limited to 55mph. Normal Americans will laugh, mock them, and vote ‘em out.

Sorry but you can't 're-educate' via elections

Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 12:58PM EST (link)

And the American people endorsed pork this election. The pro-pork guy won and the anti-pork guy lost.

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The bridges are arguable

Canthros (Diary) Thursday, November 6th at 2:01PM EST (link)

I’m convinced that they’ll be needed by the time they get built, but it’s still far enough off that nobody’s really screaming about it.

Of course, when the downtown bridge falls in the river, people will want to know why nothing was done sooner for this obviously foreseeable problem. Perhaps John Yarmuth can head up the board of inquiry.

This too shall pass.