McConnell: Arlen Will be a Good Soldier


Also: No Compromise on Card Check, but YMMV

I’m here at CPAC, where I’ve had the opportunity to meet briefly with Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell to talk over current issues. After a strong speech (which you might ultimately be able to find here), McConnell addressed questions from several bloggers.

To me, the most notable answer from McConnell came in response to a question from Fausta - when she asked his thoughts on Michael Steele’s suggestion that the RNC might not support the re-election of Senators Snowe, Collins and Specter, given their votes for the Obama-Reid-Pelosi Debt Spending Plan. McConnell first threw cold water on the idea - saying that he would support the re-election of his Senate GOP colleagues. Then he predicted that Arlen Specter would be a more dependable vote in the future, saying:

On most issues going forward, I expect that among those three, we’ll have the support of the Senator seeking re-election in 2010. I think you’ll see that in particular on votes on the president’s budget.

There was no follow-up, so make of it what you will. It’s unclear to me whether this is an indication that Specter has given some private assurance(s), or just a statement that Senate Democrats are moving too far Left for even Arlen Specter. Time will tell.

I later asked McConnell about his vows (in his speech) to block the closing of Guantanamo and the imposition of huge new tax increases, as well as other extreme elements of the Obama agenda. I asked what lessons he had learned from the debate over the stimulus that he could use to hold onto 40 votes on other parts of the agenda. McConnell’s answer belied some of the confidence he showed earlier:

Elections have consequences. And we are paying the price for the second bad election in a row. The fact is that Senators from Maine and similar states have different views than Senators from Alabama. If you look at the votes on which we prevailed last Congress, it wasn’t because we held the votes of all 49 Republicans. It was because we held 40 or 41. And I expect that Senators are generally going to behave as they have over their careers. I don’t have enough soldiers in my Army.

On the facts, McConnell is right. It’s hard to ask any Senate leader to hold virtually all of his conference in opposition to a President whose approval rating is around 60 percent. At the same time, if McConnell believes that he can block Harry Reid and Barack Obama on the most extreme elements of his agenda, that’s what he’ll have to do.

In other noteworthy questions, Jennifer Rubin of Pajamas Media asked McConnell about Card Check. On this, McConnell grew noticably brighter — and he seemed very confident of his ability to block it:

I’m somewhat optimistic we will have everyone on Card Check… Add Card Check [to a weakened economy], and we turn into France pretty rapidly. But we will remind Democrats in Right to Work states that a vote for Card Check may not be healthy for their political careers. No compromise ought to be allowed. And no part of Card Check is acceptable. And given the interest in the three Sentors who voted yes on the stimulus, I’ll say I’m hoping for an epiphany for [Senator Specter]. Senators Snowe and Collins will be with us.

It seems like it all comes down to 41 (or 42) votes. On some key issues, McConnell sounds very reassuring. On others… I wonder if we should get our hopes up.

Update: Here’s an excerpt of McConnell’s speech

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Well, Mitch

RJD Friday, February 27th at 11:42AM EST (link)

then you don’t continue to support those that don’t support you.

I don’t have enough soldiers in my Army.
- McConnell

Then you recruit, support and defend those that will do the same for you.

Get a Grip Mitch

gibbysr Friday, February 27th at 8:34PM EST (link)

If your in the military and one of the troops is a traitor, you don’t just say it’s ok, well take you back in the platoon. Spector betrayed his party and the american people. He’s proven he is not a true conservative. You don’t just switch parties in midstream because it is convenient for you to get pork back home. If so you pay the price. If Mitch McConnell reaches across the aisle and embrasses Spector he needs to go be the same swift kick in the pants back to KY. He only won by the skin of his teeth and there won’t be a next time for him in KY. So Mitch you either lead or you leave!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Get a Grip Mitch

gibbysr Friday, February 27th at 8:34PM EST (link)

If your in the military and one of the troops is a traitor, you don’t just say it’s ok, well take you back in the platoon. Spector betrayed his party and the american people. He’s proven he is not a true conservative. You don’t just switch parties in midstream because it is convenient for you to get pork back home. If so you pay the price. If Mitch McConnell reaches across the aisle and embrasses Spector he needs to go be the same swift kick in the pants back to KY. He only won by the skin of his teeth and there won’t be a next time for him in KY. So Mitch you either lead or you leave!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

It's time for a new general

realityunwound Friday, February 27th at 10:46PM EST (link)

Steele seems to be heading things in the right direction at the RNC, & DeMint ought to be the minority leader so he can be the majority leader in 2010.

 
 

Who does he think we are

blkeelin Friday, February 27th at 11:55AM EST (link)

Senator McConnell’s comments that Arlen Specter would be a good boy is insulting to any realistic person. This is the same Arlen Specter, who was supported by the establishment in the last election, who promised he would act more like a republican. What did we get for this support. NOTHING.

It is time to remove these old dinasours from the Senate. If the Republican party supports the re-election primary for Specter. I will never support the party again. Enough is Enough!

I think a petition should be started to draft someone like Pat Toomey or Lynn Swann for a primary.

 

Heh...yeah...arlen will be reliable till he's safely ensconced for another six years...

AceInTX Friday, February 27th at 12:13PM EST (link)

and it’s back to business as usual…

As for it being too much to ask for a leader to hold his own conference together when a president is at 60% approval……funny thing that…since Reid did it with Bush…it’s only Republican leaders that can’t hold their caucuses together because they won’t make their mavericks pay for leaving the reservation!

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This may surprise you

whatifidontwanna Friday, February 27th at 12:49PM EST (link)

Ace, but I agree with you.

Now is the time to make his life really difficult and primary him, or pull a Heseltine on him and make him realize running again won’t serve his purpose.

I think the reason the Democrats have been so successful at holding their caucus together is because when they were in the Minority, a few “conservative” Democrats could vote for Bush (it gave us several victories after all) so they could keep their seats and then work towards 50.

It’s sort of a strategy many of us are suggesting. You keep the wafflers there until we get to 50 plus, then we can start making some changes.

I don’t know why we don’t disagree, but I’d like at least SOME brake on Obama’s agenda instead of NOTHING at all.

Good back and forth last night and I enjoyed it...you made me stop and think a little and I appreciate it

AceInTX Friday, February 27th at 2:22PM EST (link)

I respect anyone who can do that…you didn’t change my mind…but it was invigorating…

I think we’re after the same thing for the most part, we just have a different way of getting there…My take on where we are is that we need a valley forge in the Republican Party…We need a time to pull back, get rid of the dead weight, drill the troops and harden them and take the field in 2010 reinvigorated, lean and hungry for victory…

From my perspective…you want more of the same…I know you don’t see it that way…but after 20 years of watching this and working in the trenches…We haven’t made on iota of progress from my perspective. I’ve been told all these years that we need social moderates and fiscal conservatives to win in the NE and CA and I’ve just shrugged my shoulders and put my head down and worked…but this year I stopped and looked…mind you…this is before Snowe, Collins and Specter jumped ship on the stimulus…

How many social moderates/fiscal conservatives are there out there?…Really? the three we’re talking about prooved there is no such thing…I’ve dug through a lot of Data…and most of the social moderates are the biggest porkers in Congress.

An arborist knows that to encourage new growth in an old tree to have to cut back some of the live growth and eliminate the dead wood before the tree will spring back to new life…that’s my desire…I don’t see how we can ever rebuild our credibility which was destroyed by Tom, (We cut everything there is to cut) Delay, GW Bush and the clowns we had in congress in 06 and we still haven’t trimmed off the dead wood!

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Kowalski,

AceInTX Friday, February 27th at 2:29PM EST (link)

I forgot to add that in all those 20 years, I’ve seen Republicans in control and unable to produce anything close to cutting spending or limiting let alone reducing the size and scope of the Federal Government because these same people we going back and forth about simply will not stick to the program and stand up to the Democrats who are increasing it…in fact…the ones I keep naming by name are helping them to grow it!

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We totally agree bud...

whatifidontwanna Friday, February 27th at 2:39PM EST (link)

I just have a couple of worries about the approach in the way you put it.

We don’t have time to retreat and rebuild. We have to rebuild while continuing to fight That’s why we seem to have a different approach.

And in politics, it’s all about numbers. I know that we would sort of prefer a monolithic conference in the House and Senate and we’d be able to stick together always. I just don’t see that happening.

And I’m sure my desire of having our Federal candidates stick to what would make real changes, the Federalism and Liberalism we talked last night.

See, I have a vision of the Republican Party as one that is really many different parties. Because our view at the Federal Level should be one in the same across the board, and let the stuff that divides us stay at the state level where the divisions can’t be played on by the likes of Reid (or probably Schumer).

I just know we can win seats in places that every pundit says we can’t if we can successfully change the mandates of our candidates. And honestly, Barack is giving us this opportunity.

And you are right, we need to keep on our people, once you get used to spending other people’s money, it becomes easier and easier.

The question, for me is what mandates exist right now??

Attack Mode Friday, February 27th at 3:10PM EST (link)

What mandates does the Republican party have on candidates, what philosophical, or political principles are actually being enforced, or have been enforced in recent history?

This is where your theory falls apart. We haven’t been on anyones case for purity, we have been lazy in keeping the flock, our leadership has capitulated on almost all issues except the GWOT. We have run many moderates over the years, many are no longer in the House or Senate, yet we have a conservative revival going on in the House, and a formidable conservative movement growing in the Senate.

What I think a lot of people are missing is that we are not in the normal pendulum swing in electoral math. People, outside of Washington, are waking up to what the Obama Administration is planning. The ideological pendulum has taken an extreme swing to the left. This is not what the people voted for.

President Obama ran a campaign of soaring rhetoric filled with hope and the affirmation that America’s better days were ahead. Now only one month in to his Administration, it has become apparent that he is not the sunny optimist a la Reagan. He has set the battleground.

In this battle the middle will be non existent. Lines have been drawn and those are the sides. Once Obama, Nancy and Reid started the extreme partisanship with the Stimulus bill, we officially jumped the shark. People are going to start voting for an ideology rather than a political party.

Now is the time for bold colors, clear contrast, principles, values, integrity. Those are the keys to not only electoral success, but good governance after the fact.

So again, what mandates do we currently hold our candidates to?

“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.

Sadly None

AceInTX Friday, February 27th at 3:56PM EST (link)

what mandates do we currently hold our candidates to?

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we have a few months to get this

AKSteveB Friday, February 27th at 3:11PM EST (link)

out of our system. I still have a rant or two about Bush in my system, since I think most of this ultimately goes back to him with congressional accomplices. After that we really do have to set a few but serious boundaries, and get moving.

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I'm with you there...it's time for our whips to do their job...

AceInTX Friday, February 27th at 4:02PM EST (link)

and stop pandering to our moderates…

I go back to what I said about WV last night…I di believe it’s out of reach at the moment but I think as Obama does more and more of his foolishness…it will become more and more purple…but I don’t think the way to win in WV is to act like Democrats…ditto New England…My problem is with the agenda that says we have to be liberals to attract voters of liberal states when I would say…we need to give people a choice in contrasts…sure we’ll lose many districts in the NE…and in CA…but I believe we’ll win more districts in NE and CA than many believe…and we don’t have to win the whole state of CA to gain back the House at least…ditto the NE States…

The Senate is a different proposition I know…because Senators have to win state wide…but we don’t win if we elect people who forward the agenda of the enemy…we lose…

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Where the problem lies...

whatifidontwanna Friday, February 27th at 4:14PM EST (link)

you define all the terms to suit your view. I have no problem with that.

But do you really think that at 58 senators right now, and some Democratic Senators in States that are Red (Baucus, Tester, Landrieu, Hagan, Lincoln, Pryor, Begich, McCaskill) we can win all of these back with even a massive backlash against Obama?

I guess I’m more interested in the government stopping the spending of money because I see that as that happens, there is less money for them to be involved in social issues at the Federal level. I’m not sure I have libertarian tendencies or not but I just see that with you, our most important fight is fiscal.

By the way, I don’t generally accept your description of my view as being “running liberals to win in liberal areas.” But I know you recognize that how far right a person goes is directly related to where the “natural” center of that area is.

For instance, if we could find a statewide candidate in California that was strong on spending and judges, but personally pro-choice or gay marriage or whatever the issue might be, I’d settle for him or her over Boxer or Feinstein because they are FOR abortions up to 9 months, in favor of gay marriage by judicial fiat, and a whole host of other stupid views AAAAAAANNNNNNDDDDDD spending money and expanding government like drunken sailors.

I just wish some liberals would be in favor of abortion on demand, aborting government programs before Obama can give birth to them.

Be sincere, even when you don't mean it

AKSteveB Friday, February 27th at 4:33PM EST (link)

As one of the people who, when you get right down to it, helped elect Obama, we argue about first princples and purity ratings until the day of the primary, then unless the Repub has multiple murder convictions and screams “Viva Chavez”, we get behind him.

Hell is other people - Sartre

Not I...Not any more...

AceInTX Friday, February 27th at 6:00PM EST (link)

I sold out for McCain…never…ever….ever again…!!!!

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I can live with that...if our whips are doing their job and not letting the people you describe drive the bus!

AceInTX Friday, February 27th at 5:55PM EST (link)

For instance, if we could find a statewide candidate in California that was strong on spending and judges, but personally pro-choice or gay marriage or whatever the issue might be, I’d settle for him or her over Boxer or Feinstein because they are FOR abortions up to 9 months, in favor of gay marriage by judicial fiat, and a whole host of other stupid views AAAAAAANNNNNNDDDDDD spending money and expanding government like drunken sailors.

My gripe with most Moderates…be they Fiscal Moderates, Social Moderates, or National Security Moderates is that they end up driving the bus…they drive it into the ditch and then jump out and point the finger at everyone else. I don’t like using the term moderate for these folks either because most of the folks who claim they are moderates on certain issues are indeed liberal. Case in point would be Arnold…I remember Hannity insisting he was a liberal on abortion during an interview and Arnold became almost beligerant in insisting Hannity call him Moderate…Hannity then asked him a list of questions as to whether he wouled ever restrict third term abortions, partial birth abortions, or parental notification…of course he would restricting abortion in any way or support a parrent’s right to make medical decisions for a child…but somehow he’s considered a “moderate” on the issue?

Anyway…I digress….

I guess I’m more interested in the government stopping the spending of money because I see that as that happens, there is less money for them to be involved in social issues at the Federal level. I’m not sure I have libertarian tendencies or not but I just see that with you, our most important fight is fiscal.

I would say that Right now the most important fight to me is fiscal issues because that is the issue that is front and center right now…you’ll find that I can be as fiercely principled when it comes to social and foreign policy issues as well…and there are many here that can attest to that fact…in fact…I’ve been accused of being a one issue Conservative fixated on fiscall issues in the past…I represent the whole Conservative Package…I take my views from Burke, Smith, Voltaire, Montesque, I take from Hobbs, Hayek, Paine, and Von Mesis and Hayak, as interpreted by Friedman…Some of my views seem to contradict one another because I can see the push and pull of both arguements and in those instances I consider myself a true moderate, (as opposed to the current definition of Moderate which is basically a liberal). I see the need in many instances on issues all these philosophers raise to strike a delicate balance between the two views…walking the razor if you will…

For instance…the need for a Moral Society to achieve maximum Liberty as opposed to the need for government at times to enforce or encourage a moral order…swing the pendulum too far in either direction and Liberty suffers.

I’ve lost site of how I got onto that but as you can see…I’m not so black and white….or as easy to nail down in my beliefs as many try to paint me!

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Correction

AceInTX Friday, February 27th at 5:58PM EST (link)

I’ve been accused of being a one issue Conservative fixated on fiscall issues in the past

I’ve been accused of being a one issue Conservative fixated on Social issues in the past

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wow talk about one posting

AKSteveB Friday, February 27th at 7:18PM EST (link)

changing my view of what a person is about. I think the thing we all need to do is not confuse pragmatism for moderation. Moderation is an end, pragmatism is a means to an end. Nobody should sell out their ideals, but they don’t make it into actual practice without a pragmatic approach. I always notice that the ones who have spent the most times in the trenches are the most pragmatic.

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Well...Pragmatic is a bot of a stretch for me because I won't back down from the positions I elucidated

AceInTX Friday, February 27th at 11:16PM EST (link)

even the walking the razor part because I can fight my SoCon Brethren as hard on some issues as I can Radical Libertarians.

Pragmatism and Compromise aren’t in my nature when I know something to be right…I can be persuaded to change my mind on what is right…but I will not compromise what I believe to be right!

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Heh

Brian Simpson Friday, February 27th at 11:23PM EST (link)

I’m struck by the fact that you could spell elucidated while mis-spelling bit.

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LOL...spell check's a wonderfull thing aint it

AceInTX Saturday, February 28th at 1:51PM EST (link)

The O is right next to the I on a keyboard

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we have a few months to get this

AKSteveB Friday, February 27th at 3:11PM EST (link)

out of our system. I still have a rant or two about Bush in my system, since I think most of this ultimately goes back to him with congressional accomplices. After that we really do have to set a few but serious boundaries, and get moving.

Hell is other people - Sartre

 

Well...I didn't say retreat exactly...

AceInTX Friday, February 27th at 3:52PM EST (link)

To continue the Valley Forge analogy…we need to fight a holding action now…while we’re drilling our regulars for the fight ahead…I realize the analogy falls short because Washington didn’t have to fight a holding action because the method of warfare was seasonal in those days…and the British didn’t attack because of the weather…but please indulge me on that point…

Basically if you put the Republican Party in the Place of the Continental Army and the Continental Congress…and you consider the fact that we need the voters in place of the French who we needed to come into the war in order to win….Washington had to win a couple battles to convince the French to throw in with us…The French needed reassurance that the Continental Army could deliver. Likewise the Republican Party and the voters…The Stimulus Fight was a big chance for us to prove ourselves but ended up being a failure…the battle of Fort Washington if you will or Bunker Hill before that…we lost those battles and suffered a blow to the diplomacy we were engaged in in trying to enlist the French to our side.

It’s a shame because after Pelosi passed it without a single Republican vote…I I thought we had a real chance to appeal to the voters as Washington did at the Battle of Trenton…with a resounding victory that totally revived American Morale…and showed the French, (Voters) we could stick to our guns and win.

The holding action is the key…We have to stop the Democrats wherever possible…and we have to do so without our Benedict Arnolds cutting us down in the midst of battle. Winning a few battles is essential…but thanks to Specter, Snowe and Collins…we suffered a defeat at our battle of Trenton because they blew holes in the bottom of our boats as we crossed the ice choked Delaware!

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I bet the same was said about Chafee and Jeffords

bk Friday, February 27th at 1:44PM EST (link)

It was...

AceInTX Friday, February 27th at 2:10PM EST (link)

an d Specter the last time he was up…arty just had to have them…we couldn’t survive without them!

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This !@^& Keyboard

AceInTX Friday, February 27th at 2:32PM EST (link)

it was said about them and Specter the last time he was up…The Party just had to have them…we couldn’t survive without them!

Where did it get us?

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So Use Specter For a Year and Cut Him Loose

Swamp_Yankee Friday, February 27th at 3:01PM EST (link)

People are crazy and petty if they want to spite Specter too early. Blocking Card Check is way too important.

There will be no Republican rebound if the Dems get the most radical parts of their agenda passed. Once new Left government becomes entrenched it cannot be rooted out like it can’t in Massachusetts. Michigan is falling apart but entrenched unions keep the Dems sputtering ahead.

Giving unions a foothold in the South and the West is a harbinger of death. Plus Ginsburg is in bad health and Obama’s first wave of judicial appointments should be coming. Stopping the spread of radicalism any which we we can is too important. I hate this whole throw out the baby with the bathwater mentality.

Deal wit ha primaruy challenge a year from now

I share your Concerns Swamp...and I know we have to play the cards we're dealt...

AceInTX Friday, February 27th at 4:30PM EST (link)

But where we are right now…it’s like playing a game of Hearts…and these three or four are like the Queen of Spades

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That's right, we're holding several spade queens

civil_truth Saturday, February 28th at 2:59AM EST (link)

and the Democrats keep leading the jack of spades through us. We’re out of fail cards, we already had to play one of our queens with the stimulus bill.

If we can’t get our partner to pass us some low spades under the table and find a way to get them into our hand, we’re going to break one hundred much too quickly.

exactly nt

AceInTX Saturday, February 28th at 1:54PM EST (link)

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I'm note sure having Spector's vote on the budget means much

red_oakster Friday, February 27th at 12:24PM EST (link)

The Democrats only need 50 votes on budget matters. The bigger issue will whether some of the proposed changes fall properly within budget legislation. All of Bush’s tax cuts came through budget legislation I think. He nver had anywhere near 60 votes.

No...they need 60 votes to defeat a flibuster by the Repubs...

AceInTX Friday, February 27th at 5:25PM EST (link)

Specter, Snowe and Collins give them that 59th, 60th, and 61st vote.

Of course we haven’t gotten to the parts of the Republican Agenda where McCain, Graham, Voinovich, Lugar etc will defect…so we’re basically screwed no matter what we do at this point

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With apologies to President Lincoln,

The_Gadfly Friday, February 27th at 12:34PM EST (link)

Mr. McConnell, we gave you an army, and you wouldn’t even let us borrow it for a while. You and the army we gave you were too busy being nice to the people who are rolling you now.

Without a change in leadership, why should we send you more people to throw under the bus?

We’ve been called racists enough now that it shouldn’t bother us any more.

-AChance, http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/11/03/what-men-may-do-we-have-done/#comment-24463

If NY23 was a beat down for Conservatives, what do you call what happened to Progressives in NJ and VA?

inspired by ColdWarrior, http://www.redstate.com/hooah_mac/2009/11/04/ny-23-the-agony-of-defeat-not-so-much/#comment-156

Hear Hear!!! nt

AceInTX Friday, February 27th at 2:33PM EST (link)

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
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Or is it Here Here? I've never stopped to ponder that one?

AceInTX Friday, February 27th at 2:34PM EST (link)

It’s the little things in life that trip you up

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
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Out of curiosity....

whatifidontwanna Friday, February 27th at 2:42PM EST (link)

who is this mythic Republican that can lead us into battle?

I guess I’m looking at the posts here at RS and over the last two years since I’ve found this great place full of much smarter people than me, we’ve literally attacked nearly every Republican Senator out there.

Heck, even the guys from Oklahoma have vexed us.

It's the nature of the Senate...it's the reason very few Senators get elected to the White House...

AceInTX Friday, February 27th at 5:30PM EST (link)

That leader doesn’t exist in the Senate by and large…The Senate doesn’t lend itself to leadership by and large but requires “compromise and “Bipartisanship” to get things past….it’s why I hate both of those terms…because Bipartisanship has come to mean Republicans giving Dems what they want…Demint and a couple others are about it…

Most of our leaders will come from our Governors

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
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But I was talking...

whatifidontwanna Friday, February 27th at 5:44PM EST (link)

Specifically about the Republican Leader in the United States Senate.
A governor cannot do that job.

Ahh...

AceInTX Friday, February 27th at 6:03PM EST (link)

Dimint would be my guy then

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
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Majority "Leader" is inaccurate...

azaeroprof Friday, February 27th at 12:34PM EST (link)

This just goes to show the total dearth of leadership in the GOP Senate. McConnell is nothing more than a wet noodle who has lasted long enough to have “earned” his position. A true conservative LEADER would use all the tools at his disposal, including those mentioned by the commenters above, to advance the agenda and persuade/coerce his caucus to support it.

To the extent that you don’t succeed in this regard, you take RJD’s advice (above) and work on recruiting and supporting folks who will support the cause.

 

Charlie Brown

kchand Friday, February 27th at 12:46PM EST (link)

meet Lucy and her football.

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Vista really sucks!

Amen nt

AceInTX Friday, February 27th at 2:35PM EST (link)

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
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Exhibit 4582

jimmuy8 Friday, February 27th at 1:08PM EST (link)

As to why the Republicans are going to get beat like a drum in 2010 . . .

You ever watch anything to do with the phrase “good soldier?” Let me tell you what it doesn’t include: A) soldiers who have ever, ever, ever betrayed their cause even once, even a little bit and B) soldiers who have even the slightest chance of betraying their cause even once, even a little bit.

Let me make it a little clearer: How many “good soldiers” in the mafia stay alive if they openly help the feds?

Yes, I am saying Arlen has betrayed the cause . . . .

Actually...the analogy works in war as well..

AceInTX Friday, February 27th at 2:37PM EST (link)

A soldier can be shot dead on the spot by a commanding officer for disobeying an order in the heat of battle…it’s a time honored principle in warfare!

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
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Marco 2010
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He He He! Ah, A Joke Post! Ho Ho Ho!!

IJB Friday, February 27th at 8:51PM EST (link)

Exhibit 4582… As to why the Republicans are going to get beat like a drum in 2010 . . .

Oh, this is good - I needed a good laugh!

I know this line is incidental to your main point, but if you really believe this, I have oceanfront property in CO to sell you!

Honestly, the way things are going, the Republicans could run stuffed animals for office in 2010 and they’ll win in a landslide!

The way Obama and the Dems are taxing and spending, in the middle of a *Depression* yet, and planning on trampling on free speech and gun rights, only their most fervent Stalinist supporters will still be voting for them in 2 years.

I’m pretty sure Mickey Mouse could trounce these guys, if this keeps up.

I don't trust...

Fred Maidment Friday, February 27th at 9:11PM EST (link)

…the government educated Americans to be able to see the causality. They don’t see how massive government expansion and intrusion is responsible for the current economic climate. The way things are going they will believe that Republicans are to blame in 2010 for because conservatives are “holding back change.”

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It's Simple Human Nature To Blame The People in Charge When Things Go Bad (nt)

IJB Friday, February 27th at 9:27PM EST (link)
 
 
 

McConnell only marginally better

jackbenimble Friday, February 27th at 1:12PM EST (link)

From my perspective, Mitch McConnell is only marginally better than Spector.

He voted for TARP. He voted for at least one of the last two Senate Shamnesty Bills.

There are only a handfull of conservative Republicans in the Senate and Mitch McConnell is not one of them.

“I repudiate the idea of voting for a Democrat

 

Arlen's a good soldier...

jack_kerouac Friday, February 27th at 1:33PM EST (link)

…he just forgets whose uniform he’s wearing.

Didn’t he also promise to mend his errant ways back when Toomey was beating him in the PA primary?

 

This is the most ignorant thing McConnell could say

Jack_Savage Friday, February 27th at 3:28PM EST (link)

Sorry, but I have been sold that rug before.

 

Where is the common sense?

virgo Friday, February 27th at 6:05PM EST (link)

Arlen Spector is 79 years old. He has serious health problems. Why in the name of common sense should Republicans provide life support for a person who could die in office, leaving a democrat governor to fill the senate seat? Actually, if Arlen Spector cared about the preservation of this Republic,he would have taken himself out of the senate race a long time ago. Republicans need new, younger, congress persons with new ideas, and new attitudes, and no debts owed to democrats. Arlen has treated this senate position as his own fiefdom, doing as he pleased and then counting on the Republican club senators to make the argument that he is better than a democrat. He is not. BTW, I am not a spring chicken but I am very opposed to these elected persons who seem to think they have some divine right to hang on to an officet that is obviously run by subordinates more than themselves. I have been disgusted with such as Srom Thurmond and Robert Byrd and Ted Kennedy and all of the other aging politicals who should retire with some grace. This is a perfect time to clean house of the deadwood.

Age Limits would be great

Scope Saturday, February 28th at 9:18AM EST (link)

When the Republicans have the majority, the Democrats want term limits, and, when the Democrats have the majority, the Republicans want term limits. I think there should be age limits. I am not a spring chicken either, but, we all know that as you age your mind ages with you if not more so. During the last primary, when everyone was still in it, McCain was seen by many that he was too old, and he was. There were calls for him to promise to only run for one term, because of his age. Now he is gearing up to run for another 6 year term in the Senate. I think at 70 you should be forced to retire.

 
 

No no no...the man cost my son's generation BILLIONS of dollars

smagar Saturday, February 28th at 10:11PM EST (link)

In Arizona, that’s still a lot of money.

I admit I’m not an expert on inside DC politics. BUT, from everything I read in the days leading up to the passage of Porkulus:

1) The bill was bad. Very bad.
2) It BARELY passed cloture.

Let’s be clear, here: Specter, Snowe and Collins rescued Porkulus.

Yes, I agree that a stimulus bill of hundreds of billions of dollars would eventually pass. BUT, this bill had so many problems, it should have been stopped.

Specter, Collins and Snowe could have stopped it. They could have pressed Reid to get a rewrite that would have saved many billions of dollars.

Seeing as that’s my son’s generation’s money, I think it was worth it.

Porkulus, in its twisted form, was floundering. By voting for cloture, these three GOP Senators rescued it.

There are some things you don’t overlook. If we are to regain our image as a party of fiscal discipline, I do not see how we can do it with these three in the party.

There is no way that these three can be viewed as fiscal conservatives. No fiscal conservative worth their salt would have rescued that bill.

They could have forced repairs to the bill. Instead, they rescued it. They know it. We know it. They are the de facto Father and Mothers of Porkulus.

If we mean to be a party of fiscal discipline, that means we must act to rid ourselves of spendthrifts. Especially people who are cavalier with our children’s money and future.

If I find out that the chief of police in my town is on the take from organized crime, I’d want to see him gone, even IF he had kept my town safe and secure for years on end.

There are some things you simply don’t forgive. For me, putting my son’s future in jeopardy is one of those things.

If either of these three win their GOP primaries, then I’ll vote for them over a typical Dem. But they must be primaried. By a fiscal conservative candidate.

If, in the end, PA and Maine Republicans decide that they want to be represented by Senators who spend like liberals, then OK I guess. But, we need to hold Dad and both Moms feet to the fire, in the primaries.

“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)

 

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