Blue Dogs Finally Developing Teeth?


They Insist on Being 'In the Room' on Health Care Reform

I have consistently argued that the ‘Blue Dog’ label is essentially meaningless - that it is nothing more than an advertising slogan to help Democrats get elected in conservative districts while voting with liberals in DC. Blue Dogs in Congress claim to have no higher priority than deficit reduction and balanced budgets, but they have acted as accomplices to Pelosi, Reid, and President Obama, as those leaders have exploded the deficit to historic levels. Their answer has been to claim progress toward implementing a pay-go rule, which prevents expansion of the deficit - unless Congress decides to ignore the rule.

That said, it seems that the Blue Dogs are starting to worry that their mask is slipping. Already on the hook for the enormous deficit, it seems they may be rebelling against government-run health care:

Forty-five Blue Dogs, led by Rep. Mike Ross (Ark.), on Monday warned that they need to be part of the writing of health care legislation in a sharply worded letter to Energy and Commerce Chairman Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), Ways and Means Chairman Charlie Rangel (D-N.Y.) and Education and Labor Chairman George Miller (D-Calif.).

The Blue Dogs pronounced themselves “increasingly troubled” at the lack of involvement in the writing of the massive bill and said their limited role is “especially concerning in light of the collaborative approach taken by our Senate colleagues.”

Ross said they want to be brought in on the front end, not the back.

“I’ve had a sit-down with Chairman Waxman on health care, but we keep hearing rumors that a bill is being written,” he said. “A conversation is nice, but we want to be there when it’s being written.”

Ross made clear that the success of the health care overhaul was at risk. Lawmakers are pressing ahead quickly on a massive reform package with a goal of enacting a bill into law this year. Leaders in both chambers have said they’d like to have a bill on the floor by August.

“We speak with 51 votes, and we expect to be involved in helping draft the legislation. And if we’re not, I see a lot more complications down the road on health care than what the leadership experienced on cap-and-trade,” Ross said in an interview Tuesday…

“This is not something that should pass with 218 votes,” a Blue Dog aide said. “It’s something that should pass by a large bipartisan margin on the House floor.”

The Blue Dog request for more input got a nod from a key ally, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.), in a press conference Tuesday. Hoyer has already been trying to coordinate the issue with committee chairmen while looking out for the concerns of Blue Dogs and other Caucus groups.

They “want to be included in the formulation of the legislation,” Hoyer said. “I think that’s a reasonable request. I think they will be. … I think the committee chairs want to do so as well.”

This might be nothing more than a face-saving measure for constituents at home - something Blue Dogs can point to and claim that they’re not rolling over. But if that’s what this is, the strategy is poorly-considered. By demanding to be included in the process early on, the Blue Dogs are putting themselves on the hook at the end of the process. If they’re not included, they have to vote against the bill; if they are included, they’re responsible for the final product. Presumably they realized before sending the letter that it makes it harder to wash their hands of the final product.

If so, good for the Blue Dogs - who are apparently waking up to the fact that the most massive expansion of the federal government in decades might be hard to defend in swing districts. They’ll still have to answer for TARP, and the nationalization of banks and auto companies. But perhaps they’ll draw the line at government-run health care. Still, I’ll believe it when I see it.

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I'll believe it when I see it

TxCon Wednesday, May 13th at 9:59AM EDT (link)

These “Blue Dogs” had the power to stop the stimulus in the House and caved. They cave the the Democratic leadership on every major issue and I expect them to do the same on healthcare. They could be the most powerful bloc in DC, but they choose to be gutless cowards.

Pelosi is in major trouble, thanks to Obama's CIA

LJ "Beaglescout" Miller Wednesday, May 13th at 10:04PM EDT (link)

I think we may be seeing the story of the scorpion and the frog writ large.

“Each of us has a natural right, from God, to defend his person, his liberty, and his property.”

–Frederic Bastiat
 
 

I'll believe it when I see it

TxCon Wednesday, May 13th at 9:59AM EDT (link)

These “Blue Dogs” had the power to stop the stimulus in the House and caved. They cave the the Democratic leadership on every major issue and I expect them to do the same on healthcare. They could be the most powerful bloc in DC, but they choose to be gutless cowards.

Some Blue Dogs vote like they should

Rubashov Wednesday, May 13th at 10:10AM EDT (link)

Locally, I think Heath Shuler (D-NC) voted against the Stimulus and the Budget. Maybe he’s not perfect, but that isn’t how a “gutless coward” votes.

 
 

There are a few

TxCon Wednesday, May 13th at 10:27AM EDT (link)

like Taylor, Minnick and I guess Shuler. But the majority of these guys talk big until it’s time to vote and then cave. Both Boren and Jim Cooper talked about how bad the stimulus was in multiple interviews and then voted for it.

 

If the GOP had brains

10ksnooker Wednesday, May 13th at 10:40AM EDT (link)

Which is doubtful, targeting the blue dogs is where to apply the muscle.

 

Its not just about CYA...

The Grognard Wednesday, May 13th at 10:42AM EDT (link)

…or saving face IMO. When democrats start talking like this to other democrats, I read it to mean these guys don’t feel their being thrown enough bones for their support of the legislation.

I’m of the opinion this is about “pay for play.” Democrats, by and large, are more interested in getting their hand on more power and money, and their “agendas” are usually nothing more than a means to that end. None of these people really care about health care for John Q Public. They care about filtering millions and billions through their fingers for their own purposes, something nationalized health care is sure to bring about.

If these “blue dogs” are making noises, its more than likely its because they expect a better payout in terms of money and power than any sense of responsibility to the nation or their constituents back home.

I expect most of them will jump on board national health care just like they did with TARP and these other massive bailouts and budgets once they are promised and/or given enough of the pie for themselves.

 

We're talking about Sens. Cornyn and Hutchison?

ss396 Wednesday, May 13th at 10:46AM EDT (link)

They’ll still have to answer for TARP, and the nationalization of banks and auto companies. But perhaps they’ll draw the line at government-run health care. Still, I’ll believe it when I see it.

If you pay people to sit on their duffs, you cannot be surprised when they do.

 

What is the plan for the blue dogs?

Scott Mustian Wednesday, May 13th at 11:49AM EDT (link)

Is anyone tracking the opponent plans against the “pale” Blue Dogs in 2010? Everyone of them should have a competent well funded opponent ready to go after them on every one of their votes. I can’t understand how any conservative district will vote for the congressman who supported:

TARP
Stimulus
$1.8 trillion dollar deficit
$3.6 trillion 2010 budget

Future votes or support:
Liberal Supreme court nominees
Cap and Trade
Nationalized Health care.

Any conservative who shows them no mercy should be able to keep them apologizing and running from Obama for the entire election cycle. My bet is by the end of the August recess, these guys will have been so abused back home by tea parties, etc. that the fall session will have them all walking themselves back from the cliff of extreme left. There could be 30 + seats that go back to the 2004 party status if we do this right.

Scott Mustian

 

No Dogs

kcdude Wednesday, May 13th at 2:33PM EDT (link)

They are Show Ponies now. They trot out, get a little attention from the public/press and then go back to their stalls. They no longer vote in block and there just don’t seem to be any fiscal conserrvative democrats save the three mentioned. There is no effort to moderate the radical agenda of the Dems. After what we have seen happen in the last eight months I do not expect any of these folks to change.

Blue-Dogs = Show-Ponies

JLenardDetroit Wednesday, May 13th at 6:32PM EDT (link)

you nailed that perfectly, and Brian is also right — the Blue-Dog thing is all a myth: Red-Dogs, RINOs, CINOs, DINOs, PLINOs, and Blue-Dogs, oh my… The Political Zoo - what/who are they? The Blue-Dog Myth is covered in there.

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