Latest Pennsylvania Poll: Should Specter Switch Back?


Most Democrats Favor a Primary; Specter and Toomey in Near Dead Heat

When the Democrat leaders in Washington were negotiating Arlen Specter’s party switch, they were eager to assure him that they would do all in their power to ensure him a clear path to the Democratic nomination for Senate. It’s becoming clear that in doing so, they promised something far outside their power to deliver.

In the 2010 race for U.S. Senate, by a 63/28 margin most Democrats believe Specter should face a challenge from one or more other Democrats in the 2010 Democratic primary in order to secure the nomination (9% are undecided). This suggests most Democrats want Specter to earn his rightful place as the Democratic nominee despite comments by Democratic Party officials and leaders that Specter should be given a free ride in the primary.

In a potential general election match-up between Democrat Arlen Specter and Republican Pat Toomey, Specter leads Toomey by a 46/37 margin (13% are undecided and 4% would support someone else). Among Republicans, Toomey leads Specter 69/21 while among Democrats Specter leads Toomey by a 65/14 margin. Among “super voter” or those who voted in 3 or 4 of the last 4 general elections the race is a near toss-up with Specter leading by a narrow 42/39 margin, while among those who voted in only 1 or 2 of the last 4 elections Specter holds a commanding 50/36 lead. This means lower turnout favors the Republican nominee in this contest, while higher turnout favors the Democrat.

Of course, all is not lost for Specter. I’m sure that of the 63 percent of Democrats who favor a primary against him, some of them must still plan to vote for Specter - perhaps as many as 10 or 15 percent. If that’s the case, he’ll only lose narrowly. (And as long as we’re on the subject, check out the latest from Mark Blumenthal, who argues that Specter is weaker than he looks based on current polls.)

Note too, the surprisingly good news for Pat Toomey. While the conventional wisdom tells us that he can’t win, he is holding Specter under 50 percent - a sign of real trouble for a well-known incumbent like Specter. Further, in a low turnout model (as 2010 is likely to be) Toomey is in a dead heat with Specter. For a challenger with relatively low name identification in the state, this poll should be extremely encouraging.

Right now Arlen Specter is probably wondering if it’s too late to switch back.

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Traitors are unloved, even in their new homes

E Pluribus Unum Tuesday, June 2nd at 11:19AM EDT (link)

The thought of Arlen Specter suffering, it gives me great angst. I can hardly sleep at night, ya know.

Carthago delenda est
Do your conservative t-shirt Christmas shopping at EPU Gear. Save the conservative muse, save the world.

A shot of tequila should take care of that for ya, EPU nt

eburke Tuesday, June 2nd at 11:23AM EDT (link)

“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

“Dead fish go with the flow” ~ izoneguy

“We have a Statue of Liberty not a Statue of Necessity” ~ ColdWarrior

LOL!! As the doctor prescribes, I will do -nt

E Pluribus Unum Tuesday, June 2nd at 11:23AM EDT (link)

Carthago delenda est
Do your conservative t-shirt Christmas shopping at EPU Gear. Save the conservative muse, save the world.

Send cash or a money order for the medical advice

eburke Tuesday, June 2nd at 11:47AM EDT (link)

Though I do understand your angst over Arlen’s predicament. I mean, up until a few weeks ago, he was the annointed darling of your favorite GOP election committee. That he should bolt had to have come as a *shock* to your system.

“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

“Dead fish go with the flow” ~ izoneguy

“We have a Statue of Liberty not a Statue of Necessity” ~ ColdWarrior

 
 
 

Didn't see that one coming...

6eorge Jetson Tuesday, June 2nd at 11:46AM EDT (link)

(take 2)

6eorge Jetson Tuesday, June 2nd at 11:47AM EDT (link)
 
 

At the risk of reigniting the Crist/Cornyn flame war from last week,

eburke Tuesday, June 2nd at 11:28AM EDT (link)

did ya catch the little tidbit in there about how the early polls missed Lieberman’s vulnerability because they surveyed the *whole* of the donk electorate rather than just those who vote regularly?

Considering that it’s the *base* in FL, who *always* show up to vote in primaries, who are the most dissatisfied with Crist, I’d be interested to see what those numbers say. ‘Course, I still stand by my contention that no matter what they would say, polls this far out are next to useless as predicators of actuality.

But…it would be interesting.

“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

“Dead fish go with the flow” ~ izoneguy

“We have a Statue of Liberty not a Statue of Necessity” ~ ColdWarrior

polls this far out are

David Hinz Tuesday, June 2nd at 9:53PM EDT (link)

Ok, you win! :-) nt

eburke Tuesday, June 2nd at 11:06PM EDT (link)

“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

“Dead fish go with the flow” ~ izoneguy

“We have a Statue of Liberty not a Statue of Necessity” ~ ColdWarrior

 
 
 

Me heart bleeds for Specter,

The_Gadfly Tuesday, June 2nd at 11:55AM EDT (link)

He was such an upstanding and honorable man.

Bar keep, I’ll put a Franklin up for Specter under 12% in the Democrat primary.

We’ve been called racists enough now that it shouldn’t bother us any more.

-AChance, http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/11/03/what-men-may-do-we-have-done/#comment-24463

If NY23 was a beat down for Conservatives, what do you call what happened to Progressives in NJ and VA?

inspired by ColdWarrior, http://www.redstate.com/hooah_mac/2009/11/04/ny-23-the-agony-of-defeat-not-so-much/#comment-156

"For Brutus is an honorable man;

molybdanthan Tuesday, June 2nd at 10:17PM EDT (link)

So are they all, all honorable men.”

I come to bury Specter, not to praise him.

Arlen Specter is done for. He’s not going to win that PA Primary. And no one will mourn his passing from Washington. Good riddance.

*That* would give a whole new meaning to 'what

eburke Tuesday, June 2nd at 10:56PM EDT (link)

goes around comes around.

And it couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

Pass the salt and popcorn please.

“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

“Dead fish go with the flow” ~ izoneguy

“We have a Statue of Liberty not a Statue of Necessity” ~ ColdWarrior

 

5

icbm Tuesday, June 2nd at 11:12PM EDT (link)

fine quote

 

Sadly, you are probably right about Specter losing the Dem primary

The_Gadfly Wednesday, June 3rd at 1:05PM EDT (link)

Frankly, I’d rather he won and then Toomey kicked his a** in the general so we could finally lay to rest the canard that we need to run Dem-lites in purple states.

We’ve been called racists enough now that it shouldn’t bother us any more.

-AChance, http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/11/03/what-men-may-do-we-have-done/#comment-24463

If NY23 was a beat down for Conservatives, what do you call what happened to Progressives in NJ and VA?

inspired by ColdWarrior, http://www.redstate.com/hooah_mac/2009/11/04/ny-23-the-agony-of-defeat-not-so-much/#comment-156

 
 
 

Promises

Larry Sheldon Tuesday, June 2nd at 12:09PM EDT (link)

“It’s becoming clear that in doing so, they promised something far outside their power to deliver.”

Dang, that’s never happened before.

As soon as he jumped

JoeG Tuesday, June 2nd at 12:33PM EDT (link)

I made the point here that they promised something they can’t deliver.

Unless they are promising to use tactics of the nature of “make an offer they can’t refuse,” there isn’t anything the party leadership can do to stop someone from running.

Pennsylvania Dem office holders know that if they file, there is a decent chance they will be the next Junior Senator from Pennsylvania. Of course I hope not, but I acknowledge the reality.

A United State Senator is a very powerful person. There isn’t much you could promise as an alternative to a driven person to sway them away from running.

That said, I’m convinced that if a real Democrat runs, they’ll beat spincter in the primary. Either way, he’s done.

 
 

If he did switch back

Right Reason Tuesday, June 2nd at 3:44PM EDT (link)

I bet he’d get the primary endorsement from Cornyn and the NRSC!

Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.

- Winston Churchill

Heh...yeah...we have to support the person that can win no matter what the consequences to the party brand and credibility! nt

AceInTX Tuesday, June 2nd at 6:50PM EDT (link)

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
Senate Conservatives Fund
House Conservatives Fund
Michael Williams for Senate
Marco 2010
Toomey US Senate

SarahPAC
 

Are you trying to make my head explode!

JoeG Tuesday, June 2nd at 9:39PM EDT (link)

It’s too close to reality to be funny…

 

Ya know, I'd like to laugh at this......but John "I'm folding like a flour tortilla" Cornyn

eburke Tuesday, June 2nd at 11:00PM EDT (link)

probably would.

I mean…saving all that money and putting “Republican” butts into chairs and all that.

“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

“Dead fish go with the flow” ~ izoneguy

“We have a Statue of Liberty not a Statue of Necessity” ~ ColdWarrior

 
 

Where pray tell is the NRSC Endorsement of Toomey? nt

AceInTX Tuesday, June 2nd at 6:36PM EDT (link)

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
Senate Conservatives Fund
House Conservatives Fund
Michael Williams for Senate
Marco 2010
Toomey US Senate

SarahPAC

oh they endorsed him in 2004

icbm Tuesday, June 2nd at 6:45PM EDT (link)

didn’t they?

wait

no

darn

shucks

My Sarcasm is directed at Cornyn's contention that his Crist Endorsement was directed at saving money for the RNSC

AceInTX Tuesday, June 2nd at 6:52PM EDT (link)

by endorsing the person best positioned to win in the early going since Crist beats the Dem in early polling…

So where’s the RNSC endorsement of Toomey?

Well John?

We’re waiting!

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
Senate Conservatives Fund
House Conservatives Fund
Michael Williams for Senate
Marco 2010
Toomey US Senate

SarahPAC

ahhh...NRSC! nt

AceInTX Tuesday, June 2nd at 6:53PM EDT (link)

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
Senate Conservatives Fund
House Conservatives Fund
Michael Williams for Senate
Marco 2010
Toomey US Senate

SarahPAC
 

oh yes, i know

icbm Tuesday, June 2nd at 7:15PM EDT (link)

i was trying for sarcasm, too (perhaps less successfully)

no...I got it...I was just putting emphasis on what I meant...nt

AceInTX Tuesday, June 2nd at 7:18PM EDT (link)

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
Senate Conservatives Fund
House Conservatives Fund
Michael Williams for Senate
Marco 2010
Toomey US Senate

SarahPAC
 
 
 
 

Crickets......chirping nt

eburke Tuesday, June 2nd at 10:58PM EDT (link)

“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

“Dead fish go with the flow” ~ izoneguy

“We have a Statue of Liberty not a Statue of Necessity” ~ ColdWarrior

 
 

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