Oh MAN this is fun.

“Reverse the will of the people”?

BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

As a New Yorker and a Bronxite, I find this “coup” really interesting.

Seems the details are still being sorted out, but i wouldn’t be suprised if this were about the gay marriage issue.

As we saw in California, many Hispanics as well as other Democrats are socially conservative on some issues. Another Bronx State Senator, Reuben Diaz Sr. is a pro life minister!

NY is a low down play it dirty kinda place-I look forward to see how this plays out..

“(R-Bronx)”
“(R-Queens)”

…and the last would be “Cubs Win World Series”.

… I wonder what y’all have to say to this?

Will we hear you denouncing the NY Democrats for moving too far to the Left? Will you be touting the defection of Espada and Monseratte (who is really much more suited to the other side) as a sign that NY Democrats are not inclusive or “tolerant” of dissenting views?

We’re waiting …

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 To me, “consensus” seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects … There are still people in my party who believe in “consensus” politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors … I mean it.
      - Margaret Thatcher
NOTE: “consensus” = “Bipartisanship™”/”Centrism™”

This was an illegal and unlawful attempt to gain control of the Senate and reverse the will of the people who voted for a Democratic Majority. Nothing has changed, Senator Malcolm A. Smith remains the duly elected Temporary President and Majority Leader. The real Senate Majority is anxious to get back to governing, and will take immediate steps to get us back to work.

Emphasis mine.

Just so we’re clear: RINOs can jump ship anytime they want, and that’s all fine, but let a Democrat switch parties and it becomes an “illegal and unlawful” act? When are Democrats going to bleat for the Pennsylvanians who voted a “Republican” into office?

I’m sorry to have to bring this up, but Monserrate is currently under indictment for carving up his girlfriend’s face with a beer bottle.

I’m pretty surprised that Ruben Diaz wasn’t one of the defectors. He’s well-known for his opposition to gay marriage.

Where I work in Albany, there’s a restaurant not 100 yards from me that is frequented by a very well-connected Dem lobbyist. I’m on good terms with him, even though he knows I’m a conservative Republican. I saw him at lunch today, and if he had [i]any[/i] inkling that this was going to happen, I would have heard him say something about it. What’s that mean? The Dems had NO IDEA that this was coming.

… I find this delicious.

First let me make something clear. I don’t like these guys that jumped ship from the Dems to give the GOP control of the NY Senate. One of them is charged with brutally assaulting his girl friend, for goodness sake! Not really the kind of guy I want in the GOP at any level (local, state, or Fed).

That being said, this IS a major coup

Understand that the Dem controlled branches of the NY state government were trying to ram all kinds of things through the Senate. Major gun control legislation (part of which would have forced New Yorkers to either turn in some of their guns or face criminal charges and confiscation of their weapons), all sorts of tax increases, tons of new fees and fee increases on all sorts of state licenses, legalization of gay marriage, and so on. The list goes on and on, but I don’t have time right now to link to any of it.

This doesn’t mean that NY is suddenly a red state, but I think some of this crap is going to be taken off the legislative plate for the foreseeable future,

Let me put it this way. Some of this stuff the NY Dems have been talking about passing in Albany have been making my wife and I to seriously consider pulling up stakes and leaving NY for somewhere in the south (Texas maybe). We’ll probably still leave NY, but this will probably give us some more time to settle our affairs and make the move without having to take my guns to relatives out-of-state.

[...anywhere on this post, back when Monserrate was a Democrat. Odd, that. - Moe Lane]

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/09/nyregion/09switch.html

Mr. Espada has been fined tens of thousands of dollars over the years for flouting state law requiring disclosure of his campaign contributions.

Mr. Monserrate was indicted in March on charges that he stabbed his companion late last year with a drinking glass, leaving a gash that required 20 stitches to close.

Just look at what is happening in Great Britain, voters in California, New York, etc…

I hope people are finally waking up and hope this trend continues!!!

… the Dems are saying they are still in power, and that they are going to refuse to reconvene the session until this “[Republican] coalition drops its challenge to the [Dem] leadership.” Paterson is saying that he’ll only recognize the former Dem leader as well.

I’d really like to know how the Dems think they are going to stop this. They tried to adjourn the senate without a majority vote, failed to follow through with a roll call, and stormed out like children. Now they are threatening not to reconvene until the Repubs give up their newly consolidated leadership, and they’re going to take this to court?

What are they going to do next, start arresting NY Republican senators?

There is no way that the Dems can stop the Rs from forming a new majority if they have the votes to do so. Even if the vote today was out of order or whatever, at some point the Rs will just bring it to the floor again, and a 32 to 30 majority is going to mean the Ds are out of power in the NY senate any way you slice it.

Who knows, maybe if the Dems get really crazy on this, a couple of the other Dem senators will flip to R as well. Given the fact that the Dem leadership broke their agreement not to bring gay marriage up for a vote this session, anything is possible I guess.

I would really, REALLY like to see the Dems try to keep this R take over from happening. The Rs have a clear 2 vote majority on this, and I don’t see how this isn’t going to go badly for the Ds if they try and usurp the chamber without a clear majority in their favor.

Here’s the vote and the illegal way the Dems tried to adjourn the session:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGdsKid0f6E&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Flibertyboy%2Ewordpress%2Ecom%2F2009%2F06%2F08%2Frevolution%2Din%2Dalbany%2F&feature=player_embedded

I don’t know where this Repub senator got the cajones, but I wish some of our US Repub senators would go to the mat like this!

Here’s the vote and the illegal way the Dems tried to adjourn the session:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGdsKid0f6E&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Flibertyboy%2Ewordpress%2Ecom%2F2009%2F06%2F08%2Frevolution%2Din%2Dalbany%2F&feature=player_embedded

I don’t know where this Repub senator got the cajones, but I wish some of our US Repub senators would go to the mat like this!

I read that Republicans are either “purists” or “moderates” with a big tent–but not both.The people that are maddest about this coup probably haven’t been preoccupied with such labels all day.

He’s my boss’s boss’s boss. Very conservative Republican. He told me that he saw a story in the New York Post where five more Democratic senators were considering following the first two defectors and caucusing with the Republicans.

Getting back to the very well-connected Dem lobbyist I referenced above, je comes into said restaurant today, and another big Dem I know and am friends with yells out to him, “Hey, Steve–have you changed to the Republicans yet?” Ten to twelve of us at the bar laughed our heads off. Said Dem lobbyist had to fight off the urge to flip us all the bird at that point.

The ancient Asian curse is appropriate here–”May you live in interesting times.”