and Obama’s poll numbers are sinking like a lead weight. I wonder where they will be the end of September when the Healthcare and Cap and Trade debates pick up again. Even though the Obama media is trying to paint a much rosier picture of the Pres., the polls are telling us that more and more are getting the message that the Libs are srewwing up. So far I don’t believe that one job was ever created by the most massive spending spree in history with the Stimulus. The unemployment number continues to rise, and those are the people who will start screaming first, and loudly. I doubt that by September the above bills have any chance.

and Obama’s poll numbers are sinking like a lead weight. I wonder where they will be the end of September when the Healthcare and Cap and Trade debates pick up again. Even though the Obama media is trying to paint a much rosier picture of the Pres., the polls are telling us that more and more are getting the message that the Libs are srewwing up. So far I don’t believe that one job was ever created by the most massive spending spree in history with the Stimulus. The unemployment number continues to rise, and those are the people who will start screaming first, and loudly. I doubt that by September the above bills have any chance.

the more this or cap and tax is delayed the better the chances of defeating it or at least getting something very watered down.

Time is not on the democrats side because the economy is getting worse and people are waking up from their Obama drunk.

I’m a Med student with 200K in student debt….
PLEASE no Social Health Care!!!!
Hold out until 2010, then lose the House so it will NEVER get done!!
Please!!! I want to actually own a house some day!!

Dems deciding to wait on this one is a stay of financial execution for me!

The Massachusetts Health Mess

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124726287099225209.html

In a rational world, the prognosis for ObamaCare would wait on the evidence in Massachusetts, given that the commonwealth’s 2006 program closely resembles what Democrats are trying to do in Washington. If the results were widely known, it might be dead on arrival.

The Massachusetts law, which was championed by former GOP Governor Mitt Romney, imposed an individual mandate, requiring nearly all residents to buy health insurance or else pay a penalty. (The exceptions are those who qualify for the state’s public program.) This was supposed to cover everybody and save money too. We’ve written before about how costs have exploded, but it also turns out that consumers have other ideas.

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Well, the returns are rolling in, and a useful case study comes from the community-based health plan Harvard-Pilgrim. CEO Charlie Baker reports that his company has seen an “astonishing” uptick in people buying coverage for a few months at a time, running up high medical bills, and then dumping the policy after treatment is completed and paid for. Harvard-Pilgrim estimates that between April 2008 and March 2009, about 40% of its new enrollees stayed with it for fewer than five months and on average incurred about $2,400 per person in monthly medical expenses. That’s about 600% higher than Harvard-Pilgrim would have otherwise expected.

The individual mandate penalty for not having coverage is only about $900, so people seem to be gaming the Massachusetts system. “This is a problem,” Mr. Baker writes on his blog, in the understatement of the year. “It is raising the prices paid by individuals and small businesses who are doing the right thing by purchasing twelve months of health insurance, and it’s turning the whole notion of shared responsibility on its ear.”

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For many Democrats, none of this is really a surprise, or even important. Their Rube Goldberg rules are meant to transfer the costs of health care away from individuals and onto someone else — private companies like Harvard-Pilgrim in the short term, and over time onto taxpayers. Why lobbyist Karen Ignagni is still putting the health-insurance industry’s head on the Washington chopping block is a mystery for the ages.