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		<title>By: redrockmd</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bs/2009/06/09/baracks-jesus-talk/#comment-1512</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 02:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He'd know Jesus was a first century Rabbi, and totally committed to the Jewish religion.  He was an observant Jew from birth through the time of his crusifiction.  He'd also know that Bethlehem is in Judea (i.e. part of the "West Bank").  So obviously, he'd know that the land of Jesus, the Rabbi, belongs to the Jewish people.  SO WHY DOES HE TRY TO FORBID JEWS FROM LIVING IN THE VERY LAND OF HIS SO-CALLED SAVIOR?  Any comments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;d know Jesus was a first century Rabbi, and totally committed to the Jewish religion.  He was an observant Jew from birth through the time of his crusifiction.  He&#8217;d also know that Bethlehem is in Judea (i.e. part of the &#8220;West Bank&#8221;).  So obviously, he&#8217;d know that the land of Jesus, the Rabbi, belongs to the Jewish people.  SO WHY DOES HE TRY TO FORBID JEWS FROM LIVING IN THE VERY LAND OF HIS SO-CALLED SAVIOR?  Any comments?</p>
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		<title>By: kyle8</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bs/2009/06/09/baracks-jesus-talk/#comment-1511</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His "religion" if you want to call it that, is socialism, anti-west hatred, anti-white hatred, anti-capitalism hatred, and a lot of psuedo-religious mumbo jumbo about social justice. 

Damn little about God or Jesus, or salvation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His &#8220;religion&#8221; if you want to call it that, is socialism, anti-west hatred, anti-white hatred, anti-capitalism hatred, and a lot of psuedo-religious mumbo jumbo about social justice. </p>
<p>Damn little about God or Jesus, or salvation.</p>
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		<title>By: Spartan4Life</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bs/2009/06/09/baracks-jesus-talk/#comment-1510</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just go read the latest from his reverend of 20 years.

The denomination of his church might be Trinity United Church of Christ but the teachings seem to be closer to that of the Reverend Farrakhan. This makes perfect sense. Get yourself a Christian affiliation to provide cover to preach pro-Muslim hate against Israel and America. The Church of Christ should disavow these hatemongers.

I believe Obama was raised a Muslim and remains a Muslim. Wright's church was an acceptable compromise to give political cover. I have to believe Obama is snickering in his sleeve when he invokes Jesus for political gain. Shameful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just go read the latest from his reverend of 20 years.</p>
<p>The denomination of his church might be Trinity United Church of Christ but the teachings seem to be closer to that of the Reverend Farrakhan. This makes perfect sense. Get yourself a Christian affiliation to provide cover to preach pro-Muslim hate against Israel and America. The Church of Christ should disavow these hatemongers.</p>
<p>I believe Obama was raised a Muslim and remains a Muslim. Wright&#8217;s church was an acceptable compromise to give political cover. I have to believe Obama is snickering in his sleeve when he invokes Jesus for political gain. Shameful.</p>
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		<title>By: The_Gadfly</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the most at ease sprinkling the name Jesus through out their conversations, are the ones who have the least belief in him as Lord and Savior.

Your mileage may vary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the most at ease sprinkling the name Jesus through out their conversations, are the ones who have the least belief in him as Lord and Savior.</p>
<p>Your mileage may vary.</p>
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		<title>By: alarm1201</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I urge, then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for everyone— for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I urge, then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for everyone— for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: wayneinnh</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bs/2009/06/09/baracks-jesus-talk/#comment-1507</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2 Timothy 4:3-4
For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

Rev. Wright, Tony Campolo, Brian MacLaren, Rick Warren, Rod Bell, the Universalist church, the list goes on and on.

Sitting in church every Sunday doesn't make you a Christian like sitting in a garage every Saturday doesn't make you a car. While I cannot judge someone's salvation, I can see if they are bearing fruit and glorifying God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2 Timothy 4:3-4<br />
For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.</p>
<p>Rev. Wright, Tony Campolo, Brian MacLaren, Rick Warren, Rod Bell, the Universalist church, the list goes on and on.</p>
<p>Sitting in church every Sunday doesn&#8217;t make you a Christian like sitting in a garage every Saturday doesn&#8217;t make you a car. While I cannot judge someone&#8217;s salvation, I can see if they are bearing fruit and glorifying God.</p>
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		<title>By: brizzyfolk</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bs/2009/06/09/baracks-jesus-talk/#comment-1506</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 04:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if they remove from that count  the number of times Obama 

says 'Jesus' every time Joe Biden makes a gaff 

his mention of the Lords name may not be as significant!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if they remove from that count  the number of times Obama </p>
<p>says &#8216;Jesus&#8217; every time Joe Biden makes a gaff </p>
<p>his mention of the Lords name may not be as significant!!</p>
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		<title>By: tgharris</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 03:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fruit inspector? Yes:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%207:15-18;&#38;version=31;

The Bible commands us to pray for those in authority, and I do. I pray they will make wise and righteous decisions, that we may live in peace and quietness. I also pray for the good of the nation.....and sometimes that and our president's political fortunes seem diametrically opposed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fruit inspector? Yes:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%207:15-18;&amp;version=31">http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%207:15-18;&amp;version=31</a>;</p>
<p>The Bible commands us to pray for those in authority, and I do. I pray they will make wise and righteous decisions, that we may live in peace and quietness. I also pray for the good of the nation&#8230;..and sometimes that and our president&#8217;s political fortunes seem diametrically opposed.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheetah772</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bs/2009/06/09/baracks-jesus-talk/#comment-1504</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 02:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read the following text:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;ames 2:19-20&lt;/b&gt;  Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.  But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thus, it makes no difference if Obama believes in God, for his heart speaks differently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read the following text:</p>
<blockquote><p><b>ames 2:19-20</b>  Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.  But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?</p></blockquote>
<p>Thus, it makes no difference if Obama believes in God, for his heart speaks differently.</p>
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		<title>By: gekster</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bs/2009/06/09/baracks-jesus-talk/#comment-1503</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 02:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you can spell it right. give it a shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you can spell it right. give it a shot.</p>
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		<title>By: furious</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bs/2009/06/09/baracks-jesus-talk/#comment-1502</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 02:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;sorry, Third Commandment, and all&lt;/i&gt;

...was whenver Joe Biden opened his mouth in front of a microphone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>sorry, Third Commandment, and all</i></p>
<p>&#8230;was whenver Joe Biden opened his mouth in front of a microphone.</p>
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		<title>By: bs</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 01:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the Sunday after the election.  It was painful, although it really should not have been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the Sunday after the election.  It was painful, although it really should not have been.</p>
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		<title>By: duke</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bs/2009/06/09/baracks-jesus-talk/#comment-1500</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 01:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We had a discussion in bible study a couple of weeks ago, where my Pastor, citing the need to "give unto Caeser," said we should pray for the President. I agreed to pray for him for all FOUR years of his term. That got a laugh from everyone except the preacher.

Once we got past the humor, I seriously said that I certainly would pray for the well being of Barack Obama, but I would no more pray for his success in what he is doing to America than would I pray for the person stabbing me in the back to do a better job.

Perhaps having this spectacle dance through history before our eyes is God's way of making each of us better understand the real meaning of doing, "...the will of my father which is in heaven."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had a discussion in bible study a couple of weeks ago, where my Pastor, citing the need to &#8220;give unto Caeser,&#8221; said we should pray for the President. I agreed to pray for him for all FOUR years of his term. That got a laugh from everyone except the preacher.</p>
<p>Once we got past the humor, I seriously said that I certainly would pray for the well being of Barack Obama, but I would no more pray for his success in what he is doing to America than would I pray for the person stabbing me in the back to do a better job.</p>
<p>Perhaps having this spectacle dance through history before our eyes is God&#8217;s way of making each of us better understand the real meaning of doing, &#8220;&#8230;the will of my father which is in heaven.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: cmack</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bs/2009/06/09/baracks-jesus-talk/#comment-1499</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 01:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only invoking the name of the Savior and believing in Him were the same thing.  Alas for Obama, they are not.  

Obama is not a Christian, there is no shadow of doubt in my mind.  No legitimate Christian would refer to the Quran as the "Holy Quran," as Obama did last week.  

OBAMA:  As the holy Quran tells us: "Be conscious of God and speak always the truth."  [He definitely wrote the book on AUDACITY.]

Islam denies that Jesus was the son of God and considers it a sacrilege to suggest otherwise.  Islam and Christianity are completely incompatible by their very definitions.

No Christian would describe Islam as being "revealed," as Obama did last week in Cairo.  You cannot believe that God would "reveal" a religion that denies Christ is the son of God and be a Christian.  Period.

OBAMA:  So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed.

Best case scenario he's some glorified hippie loser who actually believes all religions can be equally true, worst case scenario he's a Muslim infiltrate who has lied about his religion to gain control of the most powerful nation in the world so he can do via democracy what the terrorists have been trying to do through violence.  Regardless, I think we can at least all agree that the Church of Obama is the one to which he is the most obviously faithful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only invoking the name of the Savior and believing in Him were the same thing.  Alas for Obama, they are not.  </p>
<p>Obama is not a Christian, there is no shadow of doubt in my mind.  No legitimate Christian would refer to the Quran as the &#8220;Holy Quran,&#8221; as Obama did last week.  </p>
<p>OBAMA:  As the holy Quran tells us: &#8220;Be conscious of God and speak always the truth.&#8221;  [He definitely wrote the book on AUDACITY.]</p>
<p>Islam denies that Jesus was the son of God and considers it a sacrilege to suggest otherwise.  Islam and Christianity are completely incompatible by their very definitions.</p>
<p>No Christian would describe Islam as being &#8220;revealed,&#8221; as Obama did last week in Cairo.  You cannot believe that God would &#8220;reveal&#8221; a religion that denies Christ is the son of God and be a Christian.  Period.</p>
<p>OBAMA:  So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed.</p>
<p>Best case scenario he&#8217;s some glorified hippie loser who actually believes all religions can be equally true, worst case scenario he&#8217;s a Muslim infiltrate who has lied about his religion to gain control of the most powerful nation in the world so he can do via democracy what the terrorists have been trying to do through violence.  Regardless, I think we can at least all agree that the Church of Obama is the one to which he is the most obviously faithful.</p>
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		<title>By: jeffreywturner</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bs/2009/06/09/baracks-jesus-talk/#comment-1498</link>
		<dc:creator>jeffreywturner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 01:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want him to have the kind of conversion Paul had on the road to Damascus, instead of a politically convenient move into an influential church in the state senate district he needed as a stepping stone to boost his career.

No person who is a true Christian can be as openly hostile to Christian values as he is now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want him to have the kind of conversion Paul had on the road to Damascus, instead of a politically convenient move into an influential church in the state senate district he needed as a stepping stone to boost his career.</p>
<p>No person who is a true Christian can be as openly hostile to Christian values as he is now.</p>
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		<title>By: jeffreywturner</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/bs/2009/06/09/baracks-jesus-talk/#comment-1497</link>
		<dc:creator>jeffreywturner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I figured the GOP margin among Christians would be about the same as in previous years, with only a slight variation as a result of a larger percentage of these voters being black, due to a swell in black turnout. I also figured there would be depressed turnout among evangelicals due to a GOP nominee who made a career of being openly hostile to them.

This was obviously the case. Since 2008 saw a swell in turnout among hippies and blacks, with only average turnout overall, we can only conclude that turnout was unusually low among evangelicals, etc.

Moral of the story? Nominating a Republican who evangelicals don't like wil not cause them to vote for the Democrat, but it will cause them to stay home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I figured the GOP margin among Christians would be about the same as in previous years, with only a slight variation as a result of a larger percentage of these voters being black, due to a swell in black turnout. I also figured there would be depressed turnout among evangelicals due to a GOP nominee who made a career of being openly hostile to them.</p>
<p>This was obviously the case. Since 2008 saw a swell in turnout among hippies and blacks, with only average turnout overall, we can only conclude that turnout was unusually low among evangelicals, etc.</p>
<p>Moral of the story? Nominating a Republican who evangelicals don&#8217;t like wil not cause them to vote for the Democrat, but it will cause them to stay home.</p>
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		<title>By: gekster</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: smitch61</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not heard him say Jesus actually... Unless he is talking about him in a negative light perhaps at the local Unitarian church meetings he may have in the white house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not heard him say Jesus actually&#8230; Unless he is talking about him in a negative light perhaps at the local Unitarian church meetings he may have in the white house.</p>
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		<title>By: Tbone</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he being one of the major prophets of Islam. What the big deal? 

When Obama start talking about muslims, hindus and buddhists needing Jesus to be their salvation, I'll listen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he being one of the major prophets of Islam. What the big deal? </p>
<p>When Obama start talking about muslims, hindus and buddhists needing Jesus to be their salvation, I&#8217;ll listen.</p>
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		<title>By: jstone</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>of the old saw about a prominent Unitarian politician who said that the only time the words "Jesus Christ" were used in his church was when the janitor fell down the stairs.

I wish the Politico article had given some specifics. Otherwise, it doesn't really surprise me that Obama would still be trying to convince people that he's a Christian. According to a number of polls (thanks, Google), it seems like roughly 10% - 12% of Americans still think he's a Muslim. And I think the percentage of Muslims worldwide who think he's a Muslim is really huge (though, unfortunately, I don't have a citation on that--I'll keep looking).

So, it could be that he's trying to remind the Americans that he's a Christian while at the same time trying to tell the Muslim world at large, "Look, I'm a Christian, but you have nothing to fear from us."

It could also be a political ploy to "take Jesus back from the GOP."

Regardless, his continuing reference to Jesus is an interesting tidbit. I would be interested in his explanation of why he does it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>of the old saw about a prominent Unitarian politician who said that the only time the words &#8220;Jesus Christ&#8221; were used in his church was when the janitor fell down the stairs.</p>
<p>I wish the Politico article had given some specifics. Otherwise, it doesn&#8217;t really surprise me that Obama would still be trying to convince people that he&#8217;s a Christian. According to a number of polls (thanks, Google), it seems like roughly 10% - 12% of Americans still think he&#8217;s a Muslim. And I think the percentage of Muslims worldwide who think he&#8217;s a Muslim is really huge (though, unfortunately, I don&#8217;t have a citation on that&#8211;I&#8217;ll keep looking).</p>
<p>So, it could be that he&#8217;s trying to remind the Americans that he&#8217;s a Christian while at the same time trying to tell the Muslim world at large, &#8220;Look, I&#8217;m a Christian, but you have nothing to fear from us.&#8221;</p>
<p>It could also be a political ploy to &#8220;take Jesus back from the GOP.&#8221;</p>
<p>Regardless, his continuing reference to Jesus is an interesting tidbit. I would be interested in his explanation of why he does it.</p>
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