There’s talk in DC about how the current stimulus isn’t working, so we really need another stimulus to really get the economy going. In yesterday’s Kansas City Star, columnist E. Thomas McClanahan commented about the thought of another “stimulus”:
Former Clinton Treasury man Roger Altman had a troubling piece the other day in The Wall Street Journal, saying that quite soon we’ll be facing a big tax increase.
The budget deficit and the national debt is increasing so rapidly, he wrote, that perhaps as early as next year Main Street and the financial markets will “exert irrestible pressure to reduce the deficit.”
His prediction had a chilling plausibility — even moreso if you consider the extra debt that would be loaded on with another stimulus package full of wasteful pork like the last one. Even more troubling was Altman’s preferred levy: A European-style value-added tax.
That would be the perfect capstone to accompany President Obama’s mad drive to replicate the massive tax-and-regulatory structures that have made the European economy so sluggish for the last few decades. An apt word was coined to describe the overall problem: eurosclerosis. Europe built a welfare state it cannot financially support, and its costs and rules suffocate economic dynamism.
Remember, folks (and I’m going to periodically remind you of this fact):
This is OBAMA’S DEFICIT.
Here’s the picture. Teach it to your children. Write it on your doorposts.


Hopeful?
lukematthews Friday, July 3rd at 11:10AM EDT (link)These projections are hopeful at best. They are going to run much deeper and more oppressive on economic growth for two reasons. First, there is much less revenue coming into the government than they have figured because there is significantly less business and fewer workers employed than they estimated.
Second, to get people to buy their debt, they’ve sugar-coated much of it with inflationary guarantees. The minute we get a whiff of inflation, the guarantees of the worth of these bonds will begin accruing. The debt will begin to mushroom. This a a bigger bomb than we even imagined.
Paul Krugman also calls for another stimulus
izoneguy Friday, July 3rd at 11:13AM EDT (link)The Obamanation is busy and clouding the waters again:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/03/opinion/03krugman.html
“When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
Thomas Jefferson
Not surprising
bs Friday, July 3rd at 11:23AM EDT (link)Krugman’s been peddling that line of crap since the first “stimulus” was discussed:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/09/opinion/09krugman.html
It may not be “helpful,” but it is most certainly correct.
Decorum is fo’ suckas
Krugman's philosophy is simple
bk Friday, July 3rd at 12:28PM EDT (link)If it involves more spending and higher taxes, then no matter what it is, it’s a good thing. (Well, unless maybe the higher spending is on DoD.)
Great graph...
tempest Friday, July 3rd at 11:23AM EDT (link)That is a mighty powerful picture…so much so…that even the masses shouldn’t have too much trouble understanding it.
Powerful, yet deceitful
MSU_Charles Friday, July 3rd at 12:28PM EDT (link)Look how they have structured the cash flows to give the appearance that the deficit is reduced at an increasing rate through the 2012 election year. It then begins increasing at an increasing rate through the end of the next decade. The slight-of-hand estimates from this White House are simply amazing. I can already hear and see the 2012 stories from the MSM of how this White House has “cut the deficit” in each of the last 3 years. Of course with no mention of how it will immediately increase after the election.
The Porkulus is a Train-Wreck
reaganiterepublicanresistance Friday, July 3rd at 11:27AM EDT (link)Obama’s ill-advised $700B+ “stimulus” program is a train-wreck in progress: these jobs figures are far worse than the ones the White House warned us about if we DIDN’T pass the bill- so it was passed, and then unemployment soars anyway?
Instead of creating jobs, interest rates were bumped up, the dollar slid… and it didn’t help anybody get any work. Much of this is due to the fact that Obama’s radical agenda has mortified almost every machine of job-and-growth creation in the country.
The One couldn’t deliver the type of “temporary, targeted, and timely” bill that he promised repeatedly- regardless of his image in the MSM as almighty, Obama simply lacks the the political stature to control Pelosi and Reid… who hit the trough hard, while bickering like siblings.
And the lack of GOP co-conspirators exposed Obama politically… this legislation now looks to be a HUGE gamble. And when all this pork-n-welfare fails to generate any real economic gains, the Democrats will face a bloodbath in 2010.
One could even make the argument that Obama knows his legacy will be in tatters by 2012… and is just ramming through as much of his far-left agenda as he can before the day comes when people cringe at the mere mention of his name… sure seems like it.
http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/
Where Did the $787B Go?
Spartan4Life Friday, July 3rd at 11:42AM EDT (link)I guarantee you they have no idea where all this money is. I have predicted that as much as 1/3 to 1/2 of this money will simply disappear into thin air.
Read my post today on John Maynard Keynes if you want to know what is fundamentally flawed about Porkulus. Contrary to widely accepted economic dogma, I actually believe government spending has a negative velocity when you factor how much just gets lost in the ether. It is certainly a fraction of the velocity that tax cuts provide. Even Christina Romer knows this.
The problem we have as a country is that we have created a tax system where a small percentage of citizens pay the vast majority of taxes. Therefore, tax cuts are no longer politically popular. Unfortunately, history has shown that tax cuts are the only thing that really work as economic stimulus.
Obama’s is clueless.
Such a simple and powerful graphic
Sundayjack Friday, July 3rd at 11:41AM EDT (link)That bar graph.
Some industrious marketing person needs to put that on a bumper sticker?
Colin Powell suddenly “concerned” about government spending
izoneguy Friday, July 3rd at 11:43AM EDT (link)http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/03/video-colin-powell-suddenly-concerned-about-government-spending/
“When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
Thomas Jefferson
Here is a video Powell might understand
izoneguy Friday, July 3rd at 11:52AM EDT (link)“When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
Thomas Jefferson
you can be sure
louisiana Friday, July 3rd at 11:57AM EDT (link)that whatever hits the fan, it will not be evenly distributed
Luckily only the richest 5% will get a tax increase
bk Friday, July 3rd at 12:06PM EDT (link)since the other 95% of us were promised a tax cut and that there was no way no how that we would pay a single cent more in any type of taxes.
Heh, everyone will pay more for everything
izoneguy Friday, July 3rd at 12:10PM EDT (link)The liberals will not tax you - they will just collect more “fees:”.
Cap & Trade is a sinister plot to “tax” everyone that flips a light switch.
Cap & Trade is not about “green” jobs. It is a job destroying plot to grab your money through the back door.
“When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
Thomas Jefferson
Oh yeah and I forgot to mention
bk Friday, July 3rd at 12:26PM EDT (link)that on top of our tax cut we’ll see a $2,500/year reduction in health care premiums. We’re all going to be sitting pretty!
It's much worse than that
Ben White Friday, July 3rd at 12:07PM EDT (link)That graph is out of date. It’s from back when unemployment wasn’t going to get above 8%. And it doesn’t include the new analysis from the CBO that acknowledges that all that borrowing will require higher interest rates, making the borrowing more expensive. The higher expense is paid for with … more borrowing.
I wish someone would update this graph.
I'm going after the visual effect
bs Friday, July 3rd at 12:16PM EDT (link)The idea is to counteract Kitten’s constant whining about “failed Bush policies” and trying to deflect the blame from his own insane spending. At this point I’ll take a mental image in the minds of the American people over preciseness.
But it would be nice to have an up-to-date graph, since it’s only become worse.
Decorum is fo’ suckas
You can see from the graph what Obama's plan is
bk Friday, July 3rd at 12:31PM EDT (link)Half the graph will disappear so that in 2012 he can say he inherited a $50 gazillion deficit which he trimmed in half. So we need to elect him to a second term to finish the job he started.
It was never more than a scam and not meant to stimulate
Achance Friday, July 3rd at 12:43PM EDT (link)the general economy, certainly not the economy that most here participate in. In the guise of “stimulating” the economy that they and their allies had taken down, they simply raided the Treasury and handed money out to their constituent groups.
The greatest resentment the Democrats held for those long awful years from ‘94 to ‘09 is that they had been pushed out of the trough. The “stimulus” was a quick taste of walking around money to help them all get past the bad times. The best analogy would be a dealer sporting a junkie in withdrawals a little taste to get him back on his feet so he can get back out there and steal something and start bringing the money in again.
In Vino Veritas
Exactly, it was always about political pay-off
civil_truth Friday, July 3rd at 12:58PM EDT (link)..and nothing about actually rescuing the economy.
Every action since then has been about political pay-off, the Chrysler-GM “rescue”, Cap and Trade, Health “reform”, TARP money allocation - plundering the public treasure in the time-tested rising “democratically-elected” dictator manner (lastest example, Hugo Chavez).
And Rightly So!
Remember this?
bs Friday, July 3rd at 1:07PM EDT (link)which was in response to the many of us (including me) who slapped him around because he was simply spending on liberal pet projects instead of stuff that, you know, would actually stimulate the economy.
Obama: If It’s Spending, It’s Stimulus
Decorum is fo’ suckas