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Harry Reid: The New Walter Mondale

Back in the good old days, referring to a liberal as “tax and spend” was considered an insulting accusation – one that Democrats avoided, deflected and denied. All except poor Walter Mondale. Back in 1984, for some reason, Mondale thought that telling Americans that he was going to raise taxes would somehow be considered a good thing to do.

 

Of course we know the outcome:

Let’s fast-forward to today.  Today, Harry Reid released his inner Mondale:

“[Republicans] have to understand today, right now, the day that we passed the bill, that they will have no legislation coming out of that committee unless revenues are a part of the mix. It’s a fact of life,” Reid said on NPR’s “All Things Considered” radio program.

“In my private conversations with the Speaker [John Boehner] and with the Minority Leader [Mitch McConnell] over here, they assume and the legislation allows revenue will be part of the mix,” Reid said.

Surprisingly, Reid continued the use of the euphemistic ”revenues” rather than “tax increases.”  What I find baffling is this new-found belief that somehow the citizens of the United States want higher taxes.  Ever since the debt limit “crisis” (and I use that term sarcastically) began, the Leftist meme machine has been trying to peddle this idea that we are all chomping at the bit to give the government more of our money.  They have quoted polls and droned on with the poll-tested “balanced approach”.  Investors Business Daily points out:

In fact, a quick look at the polling data referenced by the president shows this isn’t true. Not even close.

Gallup itself breaks it out: Those who say they want the deficit reduced “only/mostly with spending cuts” total 50% of those polled. Those who say they’d like it done “only/mostly with tax increases” total 11%. That’s not 80%.

Exactly.  Like usual, the Obama/Reid crowd try to paint a picture that simply isn’t sane.

Reid and his posse are still smarting from last December, when Obama signed on to an extension of the tax reductions from the George W Bush administration.  They hate this.  They won’t give up.  Soak-the-rich class warfare is burned into their DNA.  Fortunately, the electorate is smarter than that.  Even leftists like Kevin Drum realize this.  They know that public opinion is against them.

But Reid and Obama press on.  They insist that tax increases are the answer.  But pining for the days of Mondale won’t work.  As Cato illustrates, the soak-the-rich tax rates from the pre-Reagan era didn’t work either:

It is not as though we have never tried high tax rates before. From 1951 to 1963, the lowest tax rate was 20% to 22% and the highest was 91% to 92%. The top capital gains tax rate approached 40% in 1976-77. Aside from cyclical swings, however, the ratio of individual income tax receipts to GDP has always remained about 8% of GDP.

The individual income tax brought in 7.8% of GDP from 1952 to 1979 when the top tax rate ranged from 70% to 92%, 8% of GDP from 1993 to 1996 when the top tax rate was 39.6%, and 8.1% from 1988 to 1990 when the highest individual income tax rate was 28%. Mr. Obama’s hope that raising only the highest tax rates could keep individual tax receipts well above 9% of GDP has been repeatedly tested for more than six decades. It has always failed.

But, Democrats wail, high taxes WORKED!!11!!1! when Clinton was president!  Cato unravels this argument as well:

The situation of 1997-2000 was unique. Individual income tax revenues reached an unprecedented 9.6% of GDP from 1997 to 2000 for reasons quite unlikely to be repeated. An astonishing quintupling of Nasdaq stock prices coincided with an extraordinary proliferation of stock options, which the Federal Reserve’s Survey of Consumer Finances found were granted to 11% of U.S. families by 2001, and with a reduction in the capital gains tax to 20% from 28%, which encouraged much greater realization of taxable gains through stock sales. Revenues from the capital gains tax rose to 10.8% of all individual income tax receipts in 1997 and 13% by 2000. The unexpected revenue windfalls in President Bill Clinton’s second term were largely a consequence of lower tax rates on capital gains.

Interesting.  Windfalls due to reduced capital gains taxes.  Where have we heard about that before?  Oh, here:

The big 2001 and 2003 Bush tax cuts won a two-year extension in the Obama-Republican deal of December 2010 and are now set to expire at the end of 2012. Also expiring: a two year cut in the estate tax as well as  tax cuts that were originally part of the 2009 stimulus, including Obama’s prized $2,500 American Opportunity college tax credit.  If these tax provisions expire, the top tax rate on ordinary income such as salary will go from 35% to 39.6% (or 40.5%, when the Medicare surtax is included) and the top rate on long term capital gains will go from 15% to 20% (or 23.8%, when the surtax is included). Meanwhile, the current $5 million exemption from estate and gift tax would drop to $1 million, and the 35% tax rate would rise to 55%.

So one of the most beneficial tax policies of the Clinton years – the timeframe that the Democrats love to quote to back their claims for higher taxes – will be reversed and made worse if the Bush tax rates are rolled back.  Marvelous.

But hey, Harry DID tell us – he WANTS higher taxes.  The Democrats think we all WANT higher taxes.  They’re telling us so.

The Democrats tried to peddle this story back in 1984 and it didn’t work.  Considering Reid’s comments, I found this 1984 Ronald Reagan re-election ad to be quite relevant:

ReidObamanomics = Mondalenomics.

Mondalenomics didn’t sell with the electorate. ReidObamanomics won’t either.

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COMMENTS

  • SeriousLaff

    Make it illegal for any Senator or member of congress to earmark money to a company who’s family member is on the board of directors. This way Harry could serve time in prison rather than the US Senate.

  • carolina

    They all want to STEAL the rich guys money so they can continue to get their piece of “Obama’s stash”.
    By limiting increasing taxes to “the rich” they will get more support than they would if they were going to increase everyone’s taxes. That 47% of the population that pays no federal income tax has more incentive to support taxing ‘the rich’ – so they don’t have to give up anything themselves. Talk about flat out bribery. There are more folks on the ‘take’ than the 10% of the population that are ‘rich’.
    I believe OR voted (in 2010) for a referendum to do just that: raise the taxes on the ‘rich’.

  • http://charlemagne-the-hammer.blogspot.com/ DerKrieger

    …I do want higher taxes…

    …for the 47% of working Americans that pay no federal income taxes whatsoever!

    This point needs to be made every single time the Leftists bring up increasing “revenues” and “fair share” and my favorite “having some skin in the game”.

  • Bill S

    I agree with you. I figured I’d write up something separately later on.

  • usadying

    When almost 50% pay no taxes, Obama is preaching to a very receptive choir. He’s also bribing his base with new freebies that will never be eliminated, eg. “free” birth control. I predict HHS is going to come out with a bunch of these to make Obamacare impossible to repeal. Rumor has it that he also wants his version of FDR’s WPA to show his new “focus” on jobs. Wanna take a guess as to how much this will all cost? We’re in for a wild ride.

  • Common_Cents

    These idiots don’t care and are too intellectually lazy. They just want more control in DC and that flies directly in the face of free markets, real expansion and real sustainable job growth.

  • http://jhpruitt.blogtownhall.com/ kipling

    According to your first quote from Harry Reid, it appears that the Boehner and McConnell promises of no new taxes is a lie.

    ?In my private conversations with the Speaker [John Boehner] and with the Minority Leader [Mitch McConnell] over here, they assume and the legislation allows revenue will be part of the mix,? Reid said.

    If it is Reid who is lying, let us hear Boehner and McConnell say so and then appoint all Tea Party conservatives to the commission.

  • runner12

    NT

  • d_lamar

    I hope I’m wrong, and we’ll know soon by whom McConnell and Boehner appoint to the commission. Obviously, I don’t have any faith at all in the GOP leadership to do anything that might reduce spending. I judge them more by their actions and their history, than what they say.

  • lgbpop

    Reid’s been caught in so many brazen, bald-faced lies in his tenure as senator I don’t believe him now for one nanosecond. I don’t think Boehner or McConnell were as supportive of the spending cuts that their rank and file were; but I do believe they came around, after seeing the intransigence and mendacity of the Democrats while trying to deal with them this past week. I believe that Reid simply is trying to regain the upper hand he lost last week when spending cuts seemed more important than raising taxes. Screw him. He’s an anachronism, along with Plastigal Pelosi.

  • http://charlemagne-the-hammer.blogspot.com/ DerKrieger

    I strongly believe this is a message that needs frequent repeating. It needs to be a central theme on social media to counter the Left’s class warfare rhetoric. It would also be helpful to repeat loudly and often that the US has the most progressive tax rate in the industrialized world according to the OECD and the second highest corporate income tax. We have to beat back the Left’s narrative. They beat this drum daily. Would also be nice to at least attempt to shame those calling for higher taxes as greedy, jealous, moochers unwilling to pay their own way.

  • Adjoran

    should be prepared to supply examples of previous occasions when he told the truth.

    Good hunting!

  • Adjoran

    Because he’s ALWAYS been SO truthful in the past?

    Lots of crazy out here . . .

  • Kyle-MI

    The way to counterattack class warfare is to remind people of what happened under the luxury tax. This was a tax on luxury items such as yachts. It was only suppose to hit the rich. It failed spectacularly. The rich did pay some more in taxes, but they also reduced their buying of the luxury items that were taxed. The yacht building industry was particularly hard hit. Businesses went under and the middle and lower class people they employed were left without jobs.

    In short, the politicians aimed for the rich but hit the middle class. The rich felt a little bee sting. The middle class had their heads blown off.

    It works all the same no matter what tax you are discussing. Increase taxes on the rich and they will feel a small pinch, but the people downstream get smacked but good.

    I always chuckle when the left attacks “big business”. They never think about all of those who are employed by these businesses, even if they are unionized. Slap a tax on GM, GE, or Microsoft and how do you think they will adjust? They lay off their workers, charge higher prices to the middle class customers, and reduce dividends to the middle class retirement accounts. The companies loose a little but the workers loose a lot.

  • bk

    There will be six hardcore liberal Democrats, and their position will be:
    - Raise taxes or else live with …
    - Real cuts to defense and fake cuts to Medicare (though AARP will break out the tossing sick granny out in the gutter commercials)

  • Adjoran

    The lying weasel is just trying to salvage some of his lost credibility with the parasitic Democratic base, who he promised the debt package would include tax hikes “on the wealthy” several times.

    If Harry Reid tells you the sun is shining, grab your umbrella.

  • Adjoran

    Do you think the Democrats in the Senate, with 23 seats up for election in 2012, are going to push hard for tax hikes in a recession and an election year?

    Even so, they can’t force anything without Republican votes. Why do you assume a Republican who favors taxes will be appointed?

  • http://jhpruitt.blogtownhall.com/ kipling

    If Reid is lying about McConnell and Boehner being willing to adopt tax increases clumsily described as “revenue enhancements,” then let McConnell and Boehner step forward, call Reid out, and put the rumor to rest by appointing Tea Party Conservatives to the commission.

    Why do you think it is a stretch? Sure Reid is as dishonest as the day is long but both Boehner and McConnell were willing to consider tax increases in the debt ceiling debate. They only held the line because the Tea Party conservatives held the line. With the new commission, the Tea Party will have very little leverage.

  • alaskaescapeartist

    It’s the evil corporations, and the “fortunate” among us (read.. the “rich”) that will be put upon to right the wrong of underpaying towards our fine, efficient government. It’s pretty hard to get a majority in favor of a better tax structure when you spot the other team 47%.

    Anyone who thinks “the next election” will be the event that sets things straight is just kidding themselves. The 2010 winners are now branded “fringe lunatics”. If we actually got enough Tea Party candidates elected to unsink the ship of state, Washington will literally explode.

    We are now faced with a cultural divide of people wanting to save our country, and people living off of it. It simply cannot keep going.

    Furthermore, anyone who takes comfort in the 6 Republicans on this ridiculous commission is fooling themselves. How many times do we have to be raked over the coals to learn that we’ve been toasted again by our own hapless party.

  • californiagold

    Whether one calls them “revenue” increases of “tax” increases, one thing is clear. John Boehner tried to work out a deal with Obama for up to $800 billion in “revenue” increases. If the leader of the republican party already is on record for “increased” revenues, what makes you assume the members of the committee wouldn’t as well ?

  • californiagold

    If the debt deal calculations assume the Bush tax cuts expire (which would then raise income tax rates on the highest income earners) isn’t that a tax increase ?

    And why did the republicans work a deal that make the automatic assumption that the Bush tax cuts expire ? Isn’t there a possibility that a republican wins the WH in 2012 and thereby extends the Bush rates ?

  • whit3

    Where do the self-appointed members of the elite political class think that we Americans are going to come up with extra money to pay more in taxes? Many of us, and I include my family in this, have already had to scale back our spending in order to pay more for food, fuel, clothing, higher electricity – in other words, the essentials we MUST have. Higher taxes will break us.

    Even though we are in the middle class, I know that tax increases will hit us as well. The Clinton tax hike hit me and the Bush tax cuts gave me a huge “raise” in my pay check.

  • bk

    1. It’s all supposed to happen this year, so there will be plenty of time for people to forget what they did in 2012.
    2. It won’t really be “tax hikes” they’re voting on, but rather a “balanced approach to implementing the bipartisan agreement to save us from default” or something innocent sounding.
    3a. Republicans will be in a corner, because defense is 20% of the economy but will see 50% of the cuts, so the base will be mad and…
    3b. Democrats will claim that Republicans are being obstructionist so they can gut Medicare if they don’t agree to whatever cuts and taxes the Dems want.

    You know the Dems will have all liberals and the GOP will avoid putting any “hobbits” because we wouldn’t want to act like we’re not negotiating in good will and all that rot. It all seems to me to play right into the Democrats’ hands while letting Obama keep his hands clean.

  • jimmyneutron

    and I have said plenty because I do despise him as much as it is possible to despise anyone, but he does know how to do his job.

    Those libs wanted health care, a stimulus, etc and he delivered. He whipped his folks into line, got the votes required and passed health care even though it was hugely unpopular. In other words the bad guys fought tooth and nail and won. Sure, they lost the house, but they got the big deal.

    We all know he lies and that he is probably as crooked as they come, but he knows how to lead and how to win in an alley fight.

    Why don’t we have leadership such as this? Why does our current leadership only know how to surrender and provide excuses for why they can’t do this or can’t do that?????? I have watched them fold at least three times this year – each time trotting out the same worn out, handy excuses. How frustrating.

    Also, please quit assuming that because parts of their base and the media claim that they lost and the tea party won that this is how it actually was. These people are good at what they do and they understand how this works. They got pretty much all they could out of this deal and they positioned themselves nicely for the next battle. Now they have parts of the base cry about it to fool members of the gullible public into thinking that they really did ‘compromise’ with the other side and that, dag nab it they really are gool old boys trying hard to work things out.
    Unbelievably we are now in the position where THEY can claim that THEY allowed us to cut spending so now we need to be fair and compromise and raise revenues. What a joke. Please oh please let us get new leadership in the house and senate who know how to fight. Oh, and please don’t let us elect a compromising squish to the white house!

  • carolina

    Can be “tax hikes” or “tax cuts”, and both may be true. It depends on how they rewrite the tax code and the assumptions they make about what revenues will result from this change.
    Lower flatter rates with fewer deductions = lower? or higher? taxes, depending on each person’s situation.
    Reid is selling tax reform to his party and McConnell/Boehner is selling tax reform to his party.
    We’ll see…….

  • Common_Cents

    Reid wants the Tea Party to split from R, to guarantee D power.

  • jeffreywturner

    Interesting tidbit, Mondale only won Minnesota by 3,800 votes (0.2%), so it would have been a 50-state victory had Reagan not spared Mondale the humiliation by not aggressively campaigning in his home state.

  • ohiohistorian

    Let’s delete the deduction for state taxes from the Federal tax form. Let these pusillanimous liberals who live in their high tax nirvanas pay more Federal tax. Let’s also drop all earned income tax credit, and make people qualify for welfare instead. Finally, require a minimum 6 percent Federal income tax from all. These are “revenue enhancements” that make sense and could raise some real cash.

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