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No Perfect Candidate

By: buzzn13 (Diary)  |  December 14th, 2011 at 08:21 PM  | 

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Unfortunately there is not a perfect Republican candidate, none of them are even close to being a perfect conservative candidate.  It is truly sad to see such in-fighting amongst so many Republican voters.  Any one of the Republican candidates would not be an American loathing Marxists trained professor and that’s a good start.  I can and will support whoever wins the nomination and not take my ball and go home like so many of the Paul supporters advocate.

We are one election away from losing the second amendment.  If Obama wins, he will likely get a couple more Supreme Court appointments and it will only take one more leftist on the court to vote away your second amendment rights. If you remember, the court voted in a 5-4 decision somewhat recently that the second amendment is an individual right a by a 5-4 decision! One vote changes that. SCJ Sonja Sotomayor testilied in her confirmation hearings that she believed the second
amendment was an individual right, and shortly thereafter she voted against it.

You idealisitic people better think twice about your vote. Anybody but Obama better be your vote if you want to have a chance to hold the republic. In the primaries it’s open season, vote for who you really want, but when it comes down to the general election you better be driving grandma down to the polls and vote for whoever the Republican is, even if you have to hold your nose. I can assure you of one thing; if you lose the second amendment, you lose your country. I’ll take a canditate with Romney’s looks and temperment, Newt’s creative genius, and Paul’s fiscal/constitutional policies (not his foreign policy).  I’ll keep dreaming, and hold my nose and vote Republican.

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  • Kyle-MI

    I have my preferred candidate, but any of them would be better than Obama. Any of them can win against Obama. Sure, some of them would probably make better presidents than the others and some might have better odds of beating Obama. None are above criticism, but I wish we could avoid hyperbole. I have not yet heard a convincing argument that one of them can’t win.

    • gabs

      a decent amount of the independent vote. Independents are going to be hard to draw with any of these guys, but the only possibilities are Romney and Gingrich, and it’s going to be uphill for them. The independents are very likely to vote third party or write in even if it is Romney, the election could go to Obama.

      • Kyle-MI

        McCain was suppose to be the most electable. He was suppose to attract the independent vote. Same thing with Dole.

        You know who should be unelectable? A junior Senator not even through his first term, without any executive experience in either business or government, with radical leftist views, and influenced by Marxists. I spit on your electability argument.

        At least, if you are attempting to make this argument, you need to back up your reasoning with some details and explanations. Do you have polls? Do you have reason? Simply stating “… but the only possibilities are Romney and Gingrich,…” is an assertion not a convincing argument.

        • gabs

          Polling has shown Obama in a close race with Romney and doing better against other candidates. This being a close race any way it’s cut, it is the independent vote that will decide the outcome. Whoever wins this down the line will have done so by getting a majority of that vote. McCain was “supposed to” get a better cut of that sector, but he didn’t. The fact that he didn’t just emphasizes the need for pulling in those votes. Just getting the Republican vote isn’t enough.

          • gabs

            Obama v. the leaders in a number of different polls.

            http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/president_obama_vs_republican_candidates.html

          • buzzn13

            Obama is a disaster, and abysmal failure, he has lost the independents. You must be kidding with your comments regarding the need to win the independents.

            We need a candidate that is truly conservative, or at least sounds, acts and tries to be truly conservative, and presents themselves as such, which will rev up their base and in turn gets their vote out, which will also bring out the Reagan Democrats. This election will be a landslide; Obama is finished. Very few people want an American loathing, America apologist, totally partisan, Marxists trained professor as their president. Obama

          • gabs

            is premature at this point. Those numbers tell a different story. Independents are up for grabs, and to ignore that is political suicide. For those that don’t like him but don’t agree that “an American loathing, America apologist, totally partisan, Marxists trained professor” is really what the problem is with him, the trick is not to convince them that he is. Rhetoric like that will never sell among some, even if they really don’t like him. The trick is to run a candidate against him they dislike less. McCain didn’t lose because he wasn’t conservative enough. He lost because a thin margin didn’t dislike him less and because there were even Republicans that didn’t like Palin.

          • buzzn13

            Gabs, are you Streisand, or is that Babs, I can’t remember? You certainly are not a conservative, likely not a republican unless you are a republican consultant that helps republicans lose. You are wrong on all counts. Obama and the democrats attacking hateful rhetoric is ok, saying republicans want to kill citizens with pollution, starve, them, etc

          • gabs

            You were not asked to prove anything. The point, and it stands, is that the general population doesn’t call Obama a Marxist. If you think they do and that a good strategy would be for the Republican to call him one, good luck with that. All that stuff has been aired before and it didn’t work. It’s going to take strategy to win this. All the heart in the world can’t replace strategy when votes are on the line.

          • Kyle-MI

            Will they respond to a GOP candidate who tries not to rock the boat? One who will sell his conservative soul and sell out the base to try to appease the independents (who are not necessarily moderates)? Or will independents turn on such a pandering phoney?

            Or will we be better served with a candidate who can sell the conservative message to independents because the candidate believes what they are selling? This is not necessarily any candidate who is a true conservative. They have to be able to sell it as well as have a firm conservative foundation. (The salesmanship was the problem with Buck, Angle, and O’Donnell.)

          • gabs

            The person who understands that will be ahead of the pack.

          • buzzn13

            Gabs, you are right saying it is about the economy, which should be about 80% of the case. Of course the case needs to be made as to why the economy has been destroyed along with homes values and such. The socialist economic policies of Obama are clearly to blame and I’m certain that case will be made effectively.

            I would not advocate the Republican candidate calling Obama a Marxist, but they will call his policies “failed socialist policies”, and it will be up to independent conservative groups to air the hard hitting commercials, just as MoveOn and other lib groups do for the dems.

            A series of commercials called “In His Own Words” using Obama’s own words from audio and video clips will be enough in itself to provide a landslide victory for the Republican.

            A few examples of Obama’s own words: “Energy prices will skyrocket under my cap and trade plan”, “I happen to be a proponent of the single-payer health care plan” that is the government run plan he is implementing that the majority abhor. Another Obama quote: “spread the wealth”, the quote regarding how gas prices should be over $5 per gallon, as long as it doesn’t rise too quickly, and you can go on and on and on with his socialist American loathing comments, and that is not even including his gaffes! Only one person makes more gaffes than Obama, and that his VP Biden – grandmaster gaffe himself.

            There is so much material that utilized properly in an “Obama’s own words” commercial campaign that he will defeat himself.

          • buzzn13

            Oops, that is “Necessarily Skyrocket”

        • Common_Cents

          We need someone to take it to obummer.

          • Lucas Black

            After the financial collapse, McCain’s chances more or less evaporated. Had that not happened, he would have still had a chance and I think he would have been more aggressive. He clearly despised Obama. But no GOP candidate could have won after that. Bush and Delay f’ed things up too badly for that.