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McCain Wins Russian/Georgian Conflict 3:00 A.M. Moment

It Took A Day For The Obama To Nuance His Position To Sound Like McCain's

You remember Hillary’s infamous 3:00 a.m. ad. Russia’s invasion of Georgia presented Senators McCain and Obama with a true 3:00 a.m. moment.

Their responses to the crisis suggest dramatic differences in how each candidate would lead America during an international crisis.

McCain got it right from the start. In his initial statement, McCain sided clearly with America’s ally, Georgia, took Russia to task for violating Georgia’s sovereign territory, noted danger to Euro-Atlantic stability and security, called for diplomatic pressure on Russia, and a review of what NATO can do to stabilize the situation:

Today, news reports indicate that Russian military forces crossed an internationally-recognized border into the sovereign territory of Georgia. Russia should immediately and unconditionally cease its military operations and withdraw all forces from sovereign Georgian territory. What is most critical now is to avoid further confrontation between Russian and Georgian military forces. The consequences for Euro-Atlantic stability and security are grave.

The government of Georgia has called for a cease-fire and for a resumption of direct talks on South Ossetia with international mediators. The U.S. should immediately convene an emergency session of the United Nations Security Council to call on Russia to reverse course. The U.S. should immediately work with the EU and the OSCE to put diplomatic pressure on Russia to reverse this perilous course it has chosen. We should immediately call a meeting of the North Atlantic Council to assess Georgia’s security and review measures NATO can take to contribute to stabilizing this very dangerous situation. Finally, the international community needs to establish a truly independent and neutral peacekeeping force in South Ossetia.

Obama blew it.

According to Reuters, the Democrats’ presumptuous nominee issued a statement that shows the worlds greatest celebrity is just an empty suit:

“I strongly condemn the outbreak of violence in Georgia, and urge an immediate end to armed conflict,” Obama said in a statement. “Now is the time for Georgia and Russia to show restraint, and to avoid an escalation to full-scale war. Georgia’s territorial integrity must be respected.”

Obama called for direct talks among all sides and said the United States, U.N. Security Council and other parties should try to help bring about a peaceful resolution.

It took a day of watching Russia pound Georgia before the Obama got around to condemning Russia and nuancing his position to sound more like McCain’s.

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COMMENTS

  • Octavian

    Russia?s invasion of Georgia over the weekend is a direct threat to the national security of Europe and by extension the United States. Regardless of who fired the first shot, it is clearly evident that Russia?s ultimate goal is not merely recovering South Ossetia but also bringing down the pro-western government of Mikhail Sakaashvili. If Russia is successful, then it will seek to install a pro-Russian puppet government in Georgia.

    The foregoing would be of little consequence save for the fact that Georgia is the only available alternate route for oil and gas supplies from the Caspian Sea to Europe other than routing such supplies through Russia. Since Russia has previously shown that it is not above shutting off energy supplies to governments that displease Russia, it is unacceptable to leave Europe entirely dependent upon Russia?s goodwill to not choke off energy supplies whenever it is politically convenient for Russia to do so.

    In addition, Georgia has been a faithful ally of the United States whereby 2,000 Georgian troops recently served alongside American troops in Iraq. It should not surprise anyone that the leaders of former Soviet Socialist Republics and Eastern Bloc nations are waiting to see if NATO will defend Georgia. Allowing Sakaashvili?s pro-western government to fall with barely a feeble protest from NATO will create a terrible precedent whereby Russia will think it can begin toppling democratic governments in former Soviet Socialist Republics and Eastern Bloc nations with impunity.

    Accordingly, the United States and members of NATO must be prepared to go to war with Russia. For several years, Vladimir Putin and Russia has been behaving like an ill tempered bully. Unfortunately, the only way to stop a bully is to beat a bully by his own rules. Therefore, it is imperative that the United States and NATO begin rushing military aid, including personnel, to Georgia before it is too late.

  • septembergurl

    a sovereign nation? Today’s Russia is carrying out the tradition of aggression (especially towards small countries) by its predecessor the USSR.

    This episode recalls the invasion of Finland by the USSR in November 1939 after the Finns refused to make concessions demanded by the USSR (to move the border w/USSR back 16 miles from leningrad and to lease the USSR the Hanko Peninsula which the USSR wanted for a naval base). Like the Georgians the Finns fought back but were ultimately defeated. By the way, the League of Nations expelled the USSR for this act of aggression.

    not surprising that other European countries who have endured invasion and occupation by the USSR (Poland in 1939, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania in 1940) are supportive of Georgia.

    I haven’t seen this mentioned, but the legislative oversight on this issue is the Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on Europe. This includes US relations with Russia and Georgia, as well as NATO, the EU and the OSCE.

    One might think that the Chairman of this Subcommittee would have some knowledge of this crisis, as well as some plan for how to deal with it.

    But that Chairman is on vacation in Hawaii. Yes, Sen Barack Obama is the Senate’s point man on this crisis.

    Crickets.

    But not to worry. After all, as his foreign policy advisor Susan Rice has stated, he “bows to no one in his understanding of this world”. He has three hundred foreign policy advisors, after all. Surely they will come up with something.

    Crickets.

    By contrast, John McCain has talked about the dangers of Russian aggression since 1999, he has supported georgia’s entry into NATO, and he understands the dangers this crisis poses to the stability of Europe.

    What I would like to see:

    1. Expel Russia from the G-8

    2. Offer Georgia immediate and retroactive membership in NATO

    Force is the only thing the Russians understand and respect.

  • tvjohn2

    If we were invaded by Russia, would we want England or France to go to the UN Security Council?

    • Octavian

      Good Lord almighty! I didn’t know that Barack Hussein Obama was chairman of such an important sub-committee. He should know better but then I guess Barack Hussein Obama has been too busy campaigning for the office of presidency over the last two years to be properly informed of Russia’s intentions in the Caucasus region.

  • tvjohn2

    If we were invaded by Russia, would we want England or France to go to the UN Security Council?

  • buckeye

    I’m sure Taiwan and China are watching to see if the U.S. has the political will to defend a faithful ally with “disputed” land.

    • pilgrim

      The Pres. of Georgia told Blitzer he is the youngest Pres. of Georgia, and he is old enough to remember the old times when in 1968 Soviet tanks rolled into Prague and 1979 when Soviet tanks rolled into Kabul. Just like old times.

      • Octavian

        Going to the UN Security Council is futile since Russia is a member of such Council with veto power. Russia is counting on the West to waste time with the United Nations because all it needs is a few more days to crush Georgian ground forces and position itself for the final blow on Tbilisi. Only then will Russia deliver a fait accompli to the West, accept the installation of a pro-Russian puppet government or else Tbilisi will be reduced to rubble like Chechnya. If Mikhail Sakaashvili is lucky, he will be permitted to go into exile in the West instead of being taken to Moscow to stand trial for committing war crimes against Russia.

        By now, the United States should have had the Mediterranean Sixth Fleet underway toward the Black Sea and be scrambling fighters and an AWAC from bases in Europe and Turkey to provide air cover to Georgian ground cover. We should also be making a very public display of preparing to deploy some of our ground forces from Iraq north to Georgia as peacekeepers. Now is not the time get cold feet. Fortune favors the bold!

  • phred

    Thinking outside of the box is what brings me back to Redstate several times a day. Great angle and analysis.

    • Octavian

      Meant to say “provide air cover to Georgian ground forces.”

  • Octavian

    Something else to take into consideration. My review of news reports on Russia’s invasion of Georgia iindicates that Putin’s name is being mentioned more often than Medvedev’s name. The foregoing could be the result of sloppy reporting, or it could mean that Putin is displacing Medvedev from his proper role. Given human nature, Medvedev cannot be too happy with Putin crowding him out like this.

    Also, since I am an active investor and pay attention to financial reports on a daily basis, I recall reading a few days ago how Putin single handedly caused share prices of Russian coal companies to drop by 60% in a single day be mumbling threats like he did toward Gazprom before Russia essentially nationalized it. Investors, both Russian (and Medvedev) and non-Russian, were extremely displeased with Putin and I cannot help but wonder if this is Putin’s way of trying to regain favor with the Russian people — at least those that were sore at him a few days ago.

    • rbdwiggins
      • blooch

        I’m guessing the record is in minutes and can be counted on one hand. This particular “member” one may hold the record for number of words per active minute before blam. May be the kind of thing that blew up SiteMeter;>)

  • SteveLA

    Anyone care to bet how little coverage McCain v Nobama on this topic?

    I’ve done a quick scan, nothing there yet on a Sunday evening.

    • dld1717

      Can you imagine if hypothetically we were attacked by Canada in the middle of a US city being bombed this guy was calling for talks? Talks? When a sovereign, independent nation is being bombed he wants to show weakness rather then resolve.

      This man is not man enough to be President

      McCain needs an ad with 3 am theme here

      Showing Georgia to be friend of this country with Iraq troop theme

      Cut to Obama saying we need talks and then show pics of Russia attacking Georgia

      Its great theme to hit Obama on

      • jonlester

        Russia depends too much on oil revenue as it is and faces some reckoning as oil prices ease down. Now is not the time to abruptly lose so many existing and pending investments and contracts for mere grandstanding. I’d think the misery of the 1990′s would still be fresh on many average Russians’ minds. Putin’s present high approval ratings don’t mean he’ll survive a future vote of confidence by the Duma if he’s perceived to have precipitated economic disaster. Gorbachev could have told him that.

  • mccainbaker1

    Pathetically obsessive spamming begets a Flight of the Conchords video. Perhaps you should spend a few minutes watching this, then go get the therapy (and the ADD medication) you so clearly need.

    -Jeff

  • dld1717

    Obama looked incredibly weak on the issue at first calling for talks while Russia was invading a sovereign nation. Georgia has been a great friend to this country and has even sent 2,000 soldiers to Iraq.

    Obama showed his true colors he is not man enough to be President.

  • rjd27

    1) Please increase the font size and bold the phrase “Obama blew it”

    2) How’s that vacation going, there, Barack? Oh, you thought the world stopped when you ducked under your rock. I see. Lesson the first, the Presidency of the United States has been known to be a 24/7 job. That would be 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. With maybe a five minute nap in there, somewhere. It’s a tad bit more demanding than, oh, say, college professor.

  • mccainsupporter

    One can understand now why Poland, Hungary, and Czech Republic were so eager to join and receive the protection of NATO. I am sure many Hungarians remember when Soviet tanks rolled into Hungary in the early 1950?s to support the Stalin doctrine that once a country goes Communist and joins the Warsaw pact it stays communist.

  • dld1717

    Obama looked incredibly weak on the issue at first calling for talks while Russia was invading a sovereign nation. Georgia has been a great friend to this country and has even sent 2,000 soldiers to Iraq.

    Obama showed his true colors he is not man enough to be President.

  • mccainsupporter

    One can understand now why Poland, Hungary, and Czech Republic were so eager to join and receive the protection of NATO. I am sure many Hungarians remember when Soviet tanks rolled into Hungary in the early 1950?s to support the Stalin doctrine that once a country goes Communist and joins the Warsaw pact it stays communist.

  • janis

    n/t

  • blooch

    He probably worked longer on this than he’ll be here.

  • Flagstaff

    as the part by Timberg, you know, the part where he actually quotes McCain.

    What does this have to do with Georgia? Did you expect this was going to be a college football thread?

  • Flagstaff

    line after line with bad punctuation and no paragraph breaks. It means I don’t have any reason to read it.

  • QueenOfCups

    hit and run stuff that gets posted on stock chat boards.

    So, this is what Obama’s Supreme Cyber-slueths are doing?

    How clever – putting up an anti Obama header to draw in unsuspecting readers, then BAM, hit them over the head with the UNREFUTABLE TRUTH! Wow, that’s clever.

  • rjd27

    the poster was here all of 33 minutes. By the way, what is the shortest amount of time a poster has been a “member” before being banned?

    RedState. It’s a privilege, not a right.

  • QueenOfCups

    “Ok, kids settle down back there”

  • NightTwister

    I just don’t understand Obama’s difficulty with this. With so many military advisers on call, a simple invasion of a sovereign nation by The Soviet Union Russia should be a simple one for him.

  • blooch

    He worked on this all weekend, then popped in and dropped it off. When he ran into the dreaded 3.0 lag, he reposted. Be glad the 2nd one went through faster, or Jeff might’ve had ten of those dumps to clean up.

  • bs

    If this country is attacked similar to Georgia, what would he do? Cower in the corner and say “aww, guys, why’d you want to do that? Can’t we all just get along?” How anyone would place the safety of the USA in the hands of that incompetent boob is beyond me. His total incoherence and lack of experience could result in the destruction of this country, not to mention our allies who he’d more than happily hang out to dry.

    The Obuffoon would certainly bring about change – he’d change the USA from a strong, sovereign nation into an emasculated shell of a country, right in line with his buds in Europe.

  • NightTwister

    His extensive resume didn’t need anything so dull as committee meetings.

  • Octavian

    I read in some news report that a member of the National Security Council is ruling out military intervention by the U.S. because we supposedly need Russia’s help in dealing with Iran. I sincerely hope that member of the NSC is immediately fired. First, we are kidding ourselves if we think Russia is going to help us in dealing with Iran. Second, Israel is perfectly capable of eliminating Iran’s nuclear capability on its own. Third, it will be the height of sheer betrayal if we refuse to defend Georgia militarily after Georgia spared 2,000 troops from its 26,000 man army (that’s right — only 26,000 troop total). Right now I am growing increasingly disgusted that the U.S. has been caught flat footed on this crisis.

  • Octavian

    I meant to convey that Georgia sent 2,000 troops to serve in Iraq at our request and the least we can do is defend a loyal ally.

  • scottbomb

    I’m waiting to hear from President Bush.

  • tankertodd

    It was perfectly fine to send in the 82nd Airborne into Saudi Arabia to defend it from Iraq, don’t know why this wouldn’t be equally appropriate. With energy supply so tight any disruption to oil flow is a national security concern.

    With army military forces deployed on the Georgian border with a carrier group in backup, Russia will have to back down. South Ossetia is not worth World War 4.

  • kyle8

    why do you wan to start it? What if the Russians do not back down? What if they think, correctly, that the American public would never stomach another war right now in a place they never heard of?

  • JKH1232

    N/T

  • JKH1232

    I’d ask the tactical question, “How do you expect light infantry to hold off tanks,” but let’s be professional. We need to answer the logistical questions first.

  • jonlester

    My low regard for WorldNetDaily publisher Joseph Farah actually comes from some personal interaction as well as the obvious problems with his operation. A few years back, former CIA director James Woolsey had a new book out and its premise was that we’re in WW4 now, with the name WW3 assigned to the Cold War, yada, yada. This was right when Farah was launching his “G2 Bulletin,” a bad rip-off of Debka and Stratfor, and demanding $99 annual memberships before the reader could even see the rest of the Woolsey book promotion. I wrote to him and said something like, I think I’ll save my money if the premium benefit is a book sale by a has-been. He wrote back and said, “if you think Woolsey is a has-been, then indeed, save your money.”
    My immediate thought was, “fine,” and I haven’t interacted beyond the occasional poll at WND since.

  • Steven_Willis

    It’s time for Bush to leave China and come home. While I’m not sure what we can do, we have to do something. Ukraine and other friends will be next if we don’t stop this.

    The UN is meaningless on this. We should be able to stop the tanks and to protect a friend.

    Plus, I want to hear more from McCain. He should be shouting about this – and about Obama’s failure to even have had sub-committee meetings. While meetings are often useless, they may have helped inform us about the potential for this.

  • Flagstaff

    McCain sided clearly with America’s ally, Georgia, took Russia to task for violating Georgia’s sovereign territory, noted danger to Euro-Atlantic stability and security, called for diplomatic pressure on Russia, and a review of what NATO can do to stabilize the situation.

    First, he sided with our friends; he wasn’t wishy-washy about it. Then, he came out in favor of defending sovereign territory (maybe he really means it at home, too). He then pointed out the dangers of (un)intended consequences, then called for diplomatic action, and finally pointed out what might happen if diplomacy doesn’t work.

    This situation is one where the first response needs to be the right response. It needs to be strong and unequivocal, of which the Obama’s statement was neither.

    If necessary in the next few days (assuming Russia continues to advance), we could use this as an opportunity to prove we can turn on a dime. Iraq could transform from a theater of operations to a staging base. Air support for Georgia to wipe out the Russian forward bases would send a strong signal to Russia, al Qaida, and Iran that we are not afraid to tackle difficult challenges.

    OTOH, is it within our capabilities? I have no way of knowing. Obviously, Putin thinks the answer is “no.”

    Maybe the best we can do is get Georgia and Ukraine into NATO.

    Whatever may be true, it’s obvious why having a stable friend in Iraq can be very important in the future, for reasons far removed from oil. (Sorry; an imbedded link wouldn’t work with the enclosed parens. This might not work, either. Copy and paste for the map, then zoom out.)

    http://encarta.msn.com/map701510731/Georgia(country).html