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Obama Tried To Stall Iraq Withdrawal

Another Reason We Can't Believe In Obama's Proposed Change

Amei Taheri reports that even while Obama called for a speedy withdrawal from Iraq on the campaign trail, The Democrats’ standard bearer privately tried to delay an agreement on a draw-down of U.S. forces from Iraq:

According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.

"He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington," Zebari said in an interview.

Taheri also reports that Obama also failed to "persuade the US commanders, including Gen. David Petraeus, to suggest a ‘realistic withdrawal date.’"

This, like his prediction that the surge would make things worse, is further evidence of Obama’s poor judgment on national security matters.

Taheri explains how Obama’s stalling tactic was not well thought out:

Obama has made many contradictory statements with regard to Iraq. His latest position is that US combat troops should be out by 2010. Yet his effort to delay an agreement would make that withdrawal deadline impossible to meet.

Supposing he wins, Obama’s administration wouldn’t be fully operational before February – and naming a new ambassador to Baghdad and forming a new negotiation team might take longer still.

By then, Iraq will be in the throes of its own campaign season. Judging by the past two elections, forming a new coalition government may then take three months. So the Iraqi negotiating team might not be in place until next June.

Then, judging by how long the current talks have taken, restarting the process from scratch would leave the two sides needing at least six months to come up with a draft accord. That puts us at May 2010 for when the draft might be submitted to the Iraqi parliament – which might well need another six months to pass it into law.

Thus, the 2010 deadline fixed by Obama is a meaningless concept, thrown in as a sop to his anti-war base.

Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and the Bush administration have a more flexible timetable in mind.

Obama once again caught saying one thing, while doing another. Trying to delay an Iraq withdrawal is a good example of why Obama had to change his mantra from "change we can believe in" to "change we need." We can’t believe in the change Obama says he proposes because we can’t count on anything Obama says.

Don’t forget Obama broke his promise to vote against and filibuster the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) re-authorization, went back on his commitment to accept public financing for the general election. Obama also has reversed course on NAFTA, whether the D.C. gun ban was constitutional, meeting with rogue leaders without preconditions and the unity of Jerusalem. That’s Obama’s change.

Obama has made many contradictory statements with regard to Iraq. His latest position is that US combat troops should be out by 2010. Yet his effort to delay an agreement would make that withdrawal deadline impossible to meet.

Supposing he wins, Obama’s administration wouldn’t be fully operational before February – and naming a new ambassador to Baghdad and forming a new negotiation team might take longer still.

By then, Iraq will be in the throes of its own campaign season. Judging by the past two elections, forming a new coalition government may then take three months. So the Iraqi negotiating team might not be in place until next June.

Then, judging by how long the current talks have taken, restarting the process from scratch would leave the two sides needing at least six months to come up with a draft accord. That puts us at May 2010 for when the draft might be submitted to the Iraqi parliament – which might well need another six months to pass it into law.

Thus, the 2010 deadline fixed by Obama is a meaningless concept, thrown in as a sop to his anti-war base.

Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and the Bush administration have a more flexible timetable in mind.

Obama once again caught saying one thing, while doing another. Trying to delay an Iraq withdrawal is a good example of why Obama had to change his mantra from "change we can believe in" to "change we need." We can’t believe in the change Obama says he proposes because we can’t count on anything Obama says.

Don’t forget Obama broke his promise to vote against and filibuster the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) re-authorization, went back on his commitment to accept public financing for the general election. Obama also has reversed course on NAFTA, whether the D.C. gun ban was constitutional, meeting with rogue leaders without preconditions and the unity of Jerusalem. That’s Obama’s change.

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  • ilitigant

    Obama knowingly attempted to interfere with the lawful authority of the United States in a foreign negotiation. That is resistance to lawful authority. THAT is sedition.

    For a member of the legislative branch to meet with a foreign power, and urge rejection of a negotiation with the lawful government is a violation of the separation of powers.

    Where’s the McCain ad showing how horribly bad this judgment is? Where are the immediate attacks against Obama by Republican talking heads? Will this seditionist, this traitor, get away with an act against the nation? Will Obama slide past yet another attempt to undermind this nation?

    Where’s the outrage? Or are we so used to the way the left hurts this nation that we will allow this socialist to attempt to undermine its national interests.

    http://www.countryaboveself.com and I’m getting really damn tired of waiting.

  • ilitigant

    Obama knowingly attempted to interfere with the lawful authority of the United States in a foreign negotiation. That is resistance to lawful authority. THAT is sedition.

    For a member of the legislative branch to meet with a foreign power, and urge rejection of a negotiation with the lawful government is a violation of the separation of powers.

    Where’s the McCain ad showing how horribly bad this judgment is? Where are the immediate attacks against Obama by Republican talking heads? Will this seditionist, this traitor, get away with an act against the nation? Will Obama slide past yet another attempt to undermind this nation?

    Where’s the outrage? Or are we so used to the way the left hurts this nation that we will allow this socialist to attempt to undermine its national interests?

    **? Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

    This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.”**

    http://www.countryaboveself.com and I’m getting really damn tired of waiting.

  • kudzu630

    This is risking the lives of my brothers and sisters for his political benefit. That’s all this is pure and simple. The RNC needs to spread this message far and wide or groups like Vets for Freedom. This is subverting foreign policy as well and an attempt to engage in treaties outside of Senate duties…

  • ilitigant

    The site is running so slow it timed out on the first posting and died, a reload showed no posting, so I tried it again. So I am sorry there is a double posting, but at least it gave me the opportunity to find the cotton pickin’ law.

  • sparty

    This is huge and Mcain needs to get all over this..it speaks to so many problems with Obama and his lack of judgement and disdain for American military.These are real lives.

  • jeffweimer

    This happened during his full on expectation to win the election in a walk. He already had a “transistion team” and fully admitted it. His arrogance seems to have prompted him to ask for a delay until the next administration – he apparently thought it would be his to negotiate and take the credit. So, it’s purely, and cynically political. I hope he gets with the Logan act on this, although the evidence is not from a completely trusted source.

  • paulag1955

    New of this is overshadowed by the bad news on Wall Street, maybe? McCain needs to hit this hard, hard, hard. Show no mercy and take no prisoners.

  • davenp35

    Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent (or resistance) to lawful authority. Sedition may include any commotion, though not aimed at direct and open violence against the laws. During World War I the Espionage Act (1917) and the Sedition Act (1918) punished speeches and writings that interfered with the war effort…Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent (or resistance) to lawful authority. Itis clearly illegal to negotiate with a government (the Logan Act) when not authorized to do so. Sedition usually involves actually conspiring to disrupt the legal operation of the government and beyond expression of an opinion or protesting government policy.

  • IndependentfrMI

    Mr. Obama Community Orginizer and life long resident of the Senate Mr. Joseph Biden against our troops, what a surprise.

    Obama talks out of both sides of his mouth, and he talks behind the backs of our Military Leaders trying to undermine the current War efforts.
    While his running mate has stated his desire to divide the Country of Iraq into ethnic regions. The Iraqi leaders said that would be a disasterous mistake.
    Sounds like both of their foriegn policy efforts are a disaster.

  • Robert1

    Assuming this can be verified, Senator McConnell should introduce a motion of censure against Obama. That would be very hard for MSM to cover up, although they would try.

  • sgwhiteinfla

    A Faked Report on Iran
    “A Colour Code for Iran’s Infidels” written by Taheri, a “prominent U.S. neo-conservative” [3], was published May 19, 2006, by Canada’s National Post. The story “regarding new legislation in Iran allegedly requiring Jews and other religious minorities to wear distinctive colour badges circulated around the world this weekend before it was exposed as false,” Jim Lobe wrote May 22, 2006, for Inter Press Service.

    “The National Post retracted the article hours after it was posted to their site, and blamed Taheri for the bad info.” [4] Eleana Benador later admitted that her PR firm, Benador Associates, had planted the false story. Reporting on the controversy, Larry Cohler-Esses wrote in The Nation: [5]

    Benador, who said her client [Amir Taheri] was “traveling in the Middle East,” was impatient with dissections of his work. Terming accuracy with regard to Iran “a luxury,” she said, “My major concern is the large picture. Is Taheri writing one or two details that are not accurate? This is a guy who is putting his life at stake.” She noted that “the Iranian government has killed its opponents.” Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad “says he wants to destroy Israel. He says the Holocaust never happened…. As much as being accurate is important, in the end it’s important to side with what’s right. What’s wrong is siding with the terrorists.”
    Taheri might seem to be one of Benador’s biggest liabilities. In fact, he is right now the agency’s proudest coup. On May 30–just days after the National Post’s apology for running his false story on Iranian Jews–Taheri was one of a group of “Iraq experts” brought to the White House to consult with George W. Bush on the disastrous situation there.
    [edit]Taheri’s Reports
    “A Colour Code for Iran’s Infidels,” National Post (Benador Associates), May 19, 2006.
    “Iran OKs ‘Nazi’ Social Fabric. Yellow Label for Jews as Chilling Dress Code Echoes the Holocaust,” New York Post, May 19, 2006. Subscription required.
    Press Release: “Amir Taheri Addresses Queries About Dress Code Story,” Benador Associates, May 22, 2006; Asia Times, April 23, 2006.
    “I Stand by My Column,” New York Post, May 23, 2006: “EDITORS’ NOTE: The Associated Press and others have challenged Amir Taheri’s account (published in The Post on Saturday) of the proposed new Iranian dress code, noting that the law does not specify badges for religious minorities. Below is his reply.” Subscription required.
    [edit]Other Debunked Taheri Claims
    Taheri’s 1989 book, Nest of Spies, was debunked for citing “nonexistent sources,” fabricating “nonexistent substance in cases where the sources existed,” and distorting the facts “beyond recognition,” wrote Larry Cohler-Esses in The Nation. The book described the rule and fall of the Shah in Iran. [6]

    In 2005, Taheri claimed that Iran’s ambassador to the United Nations, Javad Zarif, had taken part in the 1979 hostage crisis at the U.S. Embassy in Tehran. “This allegation is false,” San Francisco State University professor Dwight Simpson wrote to the New York Post (which had published a Taheri column making the claim). “On November 4, 1979 [the day of the seizure], Javad Zarif was in San Francisco. He was then a graduate student in the Department of International Relations of San Francisco State University. He was my student, and he served also as my teaching assistant.” [7]

    • bk

      unlike troopergate in Alaska, which is a search for the truth despite the attempted cover-up.

      • Robert1

        So hunt away. If these facts are right big B will take a serious beating. But whatever we do, this needs to first be vetted, then pounded into the daily message. It is potentially a huge issue.

        • Moe_Lane

          …and we’d really need some kind of hard evidence to even justify going forward.

          • Robert1

            And we should not procede until we have proof. But it is SO easy to believe!

          • Robert1

            It looks like the source for this is the Iraqi Foreign Minister Zebari. If that’s the case, I would say we have a pretty good source.

          • IndependentfrMI

            MSM followed Obama through his trip in Iraq, published reports of his meeting with Iraqi Foreign Minister behind closed doors, only the two of them know what was said. A case of he said, he said.

  • 29Victor

    Politics!

  • madtrapper

    Fox news hit Obama’s main man, Bill Burton, with this very issue this morning. Of course, he denied even hearing about it. Typical.

    By the way, this was the same interview that Burton was laughing about McCains war wounds at the hands of the VC.

    How could anyone be such an anti – American son of a b—- And still bask in liberty and freedoms??? This is true demolition of our very foundation if I ever saw it!

    • ChicaGOP

      Jesus was not a community organizer. Jesus was the son of God and saviour of man.

      AL CAPONE was a community organizer.

      • bk

        Hearsay is sufficient for things like anything Palin is accused of. In a case like that it’s guilty until proven … never mind just guilty period.

        On the other hand, someone on the left is innocent until proven … never mind just innocent period.

        • Damiano

          My emails are already out. In case anyone is interested, I’ve copied my letter below. Feel free to copy and paste if you’d like…

          I respectfully request your attention and your diligence in utilizing all means to launch an investigation into the actions of Senator Barack Obama as they relate to the allegations raised by in the Amir Taheri in New York Post article, OBAMA TRIED TO STALL GIS’ IRAQ WITHDRAWAL, published on 9/15/08. For your convenience, I have provided the following web link to this article: http://www.nypost.com/seven/09152008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obamatriedtostallgisiraqwithdrawal_129150.htm?page=0
          Quoted from this article:
          ?According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.
          “He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington,” Zebari said in an interview.?
          If the facts of this article are correct, this constitutes a clear violation of the Logan Act, which states:
          Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
          This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
          The text of the Logan Act as it relates to the alleged actions of Sen. Obama are further supported by United States v. Curtiss-Wright Export Corp. (1936), on which Justice Sutherland wrote:
          “[T]he President alone has the power to speak or listen as a representative of the nation. He makes treaties with the advice and consent of the Senate; but he alone negotiates. Into the field of negotiation the Senate cannot intrude, and Congress itself is powerless to invade it.”
          Sutherland also notes in his opinion the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations report to the Senate of February 15, 1816:
          ?The President is the constitutional representative of the United States with regard to foreign nations. He manages our concerns with foreign nations, and must necessarily be most competent to determine when, how, and upon what subjects negotiation may be urged with the greatest prospect of success. For his conduct, he is responsible to the Constitution.?
          Senator Obama?s trip to Iraq and the related meetings were conducted as part of a larger world tour of his Presidential campaign. He had no Constitutional authorization to conduct any negotiations nor make any requests of the Iraq government on behalf of the United States, as he was acting on his own behalf and in the sole interests of his campaign, without and Presidential authorization or consent.
          Again, I must demand for the sake of the public interests, that you utilize all the authority granted to you by your office and your constituency to begin a full investigation into these matters and see that investigation through its proper course.

          Sincerely,

  • ekevlar11

    Bush should call up the AG and arrest Obama…

    • Vegas_Rick

      n/t