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Obama bemoans those who bear ‘false witness’ against Obamacare as he bears ‘false witness’ himself

There he goes again. President Obama bears “false witness” as he complains about others bearing “false witness” against Obamacare.

A “scripted” online discussion about Obamacare conducted with a “friendly audience” of religious voters and pastors Wednesday, ended with Obama “bemoaning those who bear ‘false witness’ against his plans — and then making a claim of his own that’s been widely shown to be false”:

“There’s been a lot of misinformation,” Obama said, complaining about people who are “bearing false witness.”

He said the first thing he wanted to correct was the idea that the proposed overhaul would force some people into different health care plans. “If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan,” he said, repeating one of his stock lines.

Unfortunately, that Obama “stock line” is not true.

We reported Fox News legal analyst, Peter J. Johnson, Jr., debunked Obama’s you can “keep your healthcare plan” promise earlier this week. Yesterday, McClatchy also reported Obama’s you can keep your healthcare plan promise is not true. McClatchy relied on the “nonpartisan” FactCheck.org:

That’s not true, however, according to FactCheck.org, an independent truth squad run by the Annenberg Public Policy Center at the University of Pennsylvania.

These facts don’t bother Obama. He continues to make his now debunked promise.

We have seen such misrepresentation from Obama before. Presidential candidate Obama’s distortion of McCain’s “one hundred years” statement about the Iraq war is the most egregious example. Even as fact checker after fact checker found that Obama misrepresented what McCain said, Obama continued the distortions for weeks.

How long will Obama continue to bear false witness about Obamacare?

Obama is shameless, simply shameless.

COMMENTS

  • http://www.ssce.net/Web-Articles/Web-articles-indexed-authors.html#authors-l JLenardDetroit
    • jen2001

      I have never heard our President refer to a specific page in the bill when he is refutting the right’s mis-information. Why do you think that is? Maybe because he doesn’t care about details, or he just doesn’t know or care?

      • http://www.ssce.net/Web-Articles/Web-articles-indexed-authors.html#authors-l JLenardDetroit

        as they refer people right to the place they are LYING about, which is why they have always dealt in the vague generalities…. They know that they can bold face lie to far too many Americans by boldly stating a section/page of the Bill and folks will buy the BS because of the seeming specifics of the distortion… So sad. But you are right, Obama especially, many are just IGNORING what is in the Bill as if they can have some plausable deniability or something when the Facts are out there and cannot be so easily side-stepped. The out-right lies of the Reality Check site (Flag-whitehouse.gov is down, but are the unlawful (same old trickery) actions going on via WH:RealityCheck (hint: YES)) is startling!!!! It is easy to see, though, how they construct the carefully crafted “refutation” based on the most extreme of “question” to begin with to build their lie/distortion on a grain of truth (as discussed in: Democrat Health Care Townhall propaganda – a place to report the Dem’s Talking Points (read: Lies) and refute them with specifics) — Euthanasia, Death Panel, Abortion, etc, things are NOT implicitly stated but are in HR3200 by EFFECTIVE EQUIVALANCE and most Americans can/will/do understand that when/if they spend more than 2 seconds to think about it and have the actual language of the Bill and past Democrat expressed intents (THEIR OWN WORDS from Campaign speeches) can be compared/examined.

        • jen2001

          their jig is up. Their death panels, Euthanasia clause and personal information appropriation would be available for all to see. The next problem is the confusing lingo they have used on purpose to confuse Americans and not allow them to see plainly their plans.

          Interestingly enough, have we heard from any of the illegal immigrants rights groups weighing in on the healthcare plan specifics to their member groups? I haven’t.

          • jen2001

            has been curiously silent about healthcare. Usually they are all in for liberal causes.

          • http://www.ssce.net/Web-Articles/Web-articles-indexed-authors.html#authors-l JLenardDetroit

            they want the passage (and the coverage for Illegals hidden there-in)… as with so many other groups… we’ve not heard it but I’ll bet you promises have been made regarding “PARTNER” coverage going to be mandated changes over “spouse” that will EVENTUALLY be forced in!!!

  • DonPMitchell

    I’m sure there are a lot of misleading and incorrect statements in Obama’s speeches. But two wrongs don’t make a right. It’s not helping the conservative cause to have wingnuts waving guns, birth certificates and pictures of Hitler. That is not what conservatism is about, and it is undermining the credibility and reputation of conservatives.

    Where is the sensible alternative? Why don’t you try advocating some real free-market reforms, like allowing true inter-state competition on health insurrance?

    • diakrioi

      Here is the link: http://theblogprof.blogspot.com/2009/08/busted-obama-as-hitler-poster-was.html

      Don’t be fooled again. Don’t automatically assume that a wingnut at a townhall meeting is one of our wingnuts.

    • WarEagle01

      But you outed yourself with your use of the term “wingnut.” The Goldwater slogan is a nice touch though. Now run along, I’m sure the Kos kids are missing you.

    • pauly1620

      Seems to me that the MSM messge is starting to saturate our brains judging by your comment. If you honestly think that those individuals represent the conservative movement then I’d say the MSDNC/CNN crowd have won you over.

    • http://www.marklaiminger.org Lammo

      for the Black Panthers to “wave guns” when they did it:

      http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-shepherd/2009/08/18/media-barely-noticed-legal-gun-brandishing-leftist-black-panthers-2000

      Republicans are full of sensible alternatives but under the current form of “bi-partisanship” the answer from the Demoncrats is always NO.

      Now go away before we taunt you a second time.

    • ciscoguy

      but it does make for easy fodder for Bathtub Boy and Mr. Maddow. It probably makes about as much sense as a lefty bringing their “medical marijuana” to town hall meeting in CA. You may be able to do it legally, but it makes it easy for your political opponents to malign you. (Not that the MSM would ever cover Obama supporters hitting the bong outside a town hall meeting, but I digress…)

      Republicans have lots of good ideas, but no one wants to hear them. The left likes to castigate the right for not offering any ideas, but when we give them, they shout us down from their bully pulpit and dismiss them and say we don’t have any real ideas. They have their agenda, and as far as they’re concerned, it’s their way or the highway – there are no other alternatives.

      ABC did an infomercial on Obamacare – if they were going to be fair, they could have given equal time to some Republican ideas. Did they? Not a chance.

    • Warrior

      and not plants or union members disguised as conserves? And besides, how can anyone control every yahoo out there?

      Besides, everybody from Tim Pawlenty to Newt Gingrich has practically screamed out long lists of “real free maerket reforms.”

      Interstate insurance competition, Medical Savings Accounts, tax free insurance or credits, tort reform, fee for service, rewarding outcomes, medical malpractice reform, prohibiting coverage denials based on preexisting conditions, guaranteeing portability, electronic prescriptions and medical records, streamlining billing codes and practices, price and quality transparency, pay-for-performance measures, one-stop primary-care “medical homes,” chronic disease management initiatives, tax equity for health insurance purchases, increased incentives for health savings accounts, creating the ability to purchase insurance or form risk pools across state lines, and much much more.

      Alas, there’s nothing magical about HOW to reform healthcare. The problem is wrenching power away from statist Democrats, big govt lobbyists and Utopian Messiahs with delusions of grandeur. In other words, the Repubs are out of power right now. And when they were in, well, remember when Bush ’43 tried to reform Social Security? The Dems’ misinformation machine had Ed Asner making robo calls to nursing homes and assisted living facilities across the country to frighten the old folks with tales of how Bush was going to take away their Soc Sec payments.

      That’s one reason why what they are doing now is so shameless.

      “Bearing false witness” indeed.

    • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

      Are you forgetting that you were pretending to be a conservative Republican?

  • diakrioi

    Correct me if I am wrong but isn’t Obama blatantly calling on churches to take political action in support of Obamacare? Is separation of church and state only applicable if the cause is not a big government cause?

    I’m a little worried. What happened to the slick and smart candidate Obama? Watching the ineptitude of this administration is like watching a different person. Either this guy is coming apart or he has something else up his sleeve. Either scenario is worrisome.

    • Husker

      ?The religious community has to decide whether they want to be tax exempt or involved in politics.?

  • Achance

    by the IRS and Congress, it’s the Chicago Way.

  • Achance

    If I hit Reply To This, it just takes me to the top of the thread. Is it me, or is it RedState?

    • aesthete
    • http://www.marklaiminger.org Lammo

      I have been getting “bounced” to the top by clicking Reply To This and also getting a message about “Compatibility View” that doesn’t stay visible long enough to read the whole thing.

      Using Firefox at home with no issues – - stuck with IE at work.

      • nessa

        I’ve been surfing RS for thirty minutes and not a single error, issue or missing diary. I’m sold. It was only 22 Mb installed and it’s not on my work computer, its on my flash drive. The speed is leaving ie in the dust!

        • muffin

          Glad you like Firefox. I wouldn’t use anything else. IE is slower than dirt on my computer – sometimes it would take 5 minutes to close the browser. FF is right on the money (and supposedly safer to use than IE.) Ooooohhhhh, the goons will come after me now. :)

  • Achance

    “It looks like the Administrator hasn’t activated Brians Threaded Comments…” or something like that.

    • nessa

      since the change to the new high-speed, low drag servers. Usually if I reload the page it works.

      What I’m finding is that often when I go to a diary, the reccommended list and diaries lists don’t appear. I still struggle trying to write in html, I’m sure not going to try to diagnose a few minor issues after a major change like the new servers.

      I think fixing it involves Neil sacrificeing a small woodland animal, dancing in a cloak around a fire and chanting html till it all works right. When the tech guys start telling me about bajigabytes and things that is always what I picture in my minds eye while I nod sagely and ignore them. It’s more entertaining than hearing about processor speeds etc also! :)

      • aesthete

        The animal is actually quite large ;)

      • CincoSolas_del_Bronx

        But then she could also just fix the server telekinetically.

        • aesthete

          The server would have been too in awe of her power and beauty to fail in the first place :P

  • Achance

    and recently updated. The message about not activating a plug in is wierd, but if I hit OK, my comment posts; it just goes to the bottom rather than as a reply to a particular comment.

    • IL_Glock21

      n/t

    • aesthete

      Firefox is pretty standard. I recommend trying it first: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/firefox.html

      I haven’t tried Google Chrome, but I hear that it handles HTML very well. Here’s the link: http://download.cnet.com/Google-Chrome/3000-2356_4-10881381.html?tag=mncol

      I use Apple’s Safari browser and it seems to handle the current iteration of Redstate pretty well, also, but I have had problems with it in the past. Regardless, here’s a link if you’re interested: http://www.apple.com/safari/

      Hope that helps.

      • nessa

        I can’t load programs on my work laptop.

        • aesthete

          I had no problems with it at the time, but I don’t know what’s changed since then. I’d imagine that it would still be fine, though.

        • redneck_hippie
          • muffin
          • nessa

            so far so good. It’s version 3.5.2.

            Thanks!

          • http://www.marklaiminger.org Lammo

            I especially like Tab Mix Plus although I’m sure there are others that do the same thing as well or even better.

      • Achance

        depends on MS Office. Neil’s suggestion that I clear the cache fixed the problem – for the moment anyway.

    • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens
      • Achance
        • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

          See my diary.

  • EagleWatcher

    Who would Jesus abort?

    • ciscoguy

      I guess we’ll find out when/if the bill passes. It’ll probably be anybody for any reason, on your dime. But, don’t worry – it’s God’s will.

    • marshmom

      How on earth can any “religious” organizations back BO’s plan knowing that it includes payment for abortion? Even knowing all of his other pro-abortion measures should keep them from supporting anything he puts out unless he changes his position on abortion.

      • EagleWatcher

        n/t

  • muffin

    is grasping at straws. They will use any tactics in their little bag of tricks to gain control over We The People. Just imagine the backlash if this monstrosity passes. Secession anyone?

  • carlsbadd

    All of a sudden this is a moral imperitive and Obama is quoting scripture that the left has banned from public schools.

    You can’t have it both ways. To use scripture and moral imperitives when it suits you but restrict it when it comes to schools or court houses and other public places does not add one ounce of credibility to your mission.

  • bobojake

    than bearer of false witness himself obama the liar

  • Dan Perrin

    a) he is lying knowingly and easily; or
    b) he really believes what he is saying.

    Either option is really, really bad.

  • Ned Reck

    My words to Mr. Obama….

    We got an ol’ sayin’ down here in the South…but I’ll need to clean it up somewhat…

    “Don?t urinate in the area of my latissimus dorsi and tell me it?s precipitating.”

    Ned Reck

  • DavidS1787

    pushing obama care, they could loose their not for proffit status for their church and have to pay taxes for taking a political stance…

    If theses pastors know what I wrote above, they will not push his health care program in their churches!

    Obama will fail once again.

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