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Majority opposes second term for President Obama

"A one-term proposition"

By: Dan Spencer (Diary)  |  October 10th, 2011 at 01:00 PM  | 

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A new IBD/TIPP survey finds 51% of Americans now oppose giving President Obama a second term:

  • By 51%-41%, respondents in October picked “someone new deserves a chance” over Obama “deserves to be re-elected.” Among independents, it was 54%-36%.
  • Half of Americans give Obama poor or unacceptable marks in creating jobs and economic growth vs. 24% who say he’s doing well. Among independents, it’s 51%-18%.
  • The Occupy Wall Street movement, while directed at fat cat bankers, also reflects broad dissatisfaction among Obama’s political base.

The poll was conducted from October 1-5, and has a margin  error of +/- 3.3 percent.

The IBD/TIPP poll reinforces the findings of the recent ABC News/Washington Post poll that found that  55% expect Obama to lose reelection.

Using Obama’s own metrics, even Obama says his presidency will be “a one-term proposition.” That is something Obama and I can agree on.

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  • msctex

    . . .to play Devil’s Advocate and try to come up with a rational reason — even a farfetched one– for re-electing this man.

    I don’t think it can be done, if constrained by rational thought patterns. It is, and will only continue to be, the first completely disastrous American Presidency.*

    *Carter has things on which he can hang his hat, at least in his own mind. Obama has nothing.

  • vamoose

    This is a poll of adults, not registered or likely voters. While Obama complains about economic headwinds, he has had MSM winds at his back for his entire political career. Even these favorable winds cannot prop up his dismal record and abysmal leadership. It’s showing up everywhere, even amongst those who aren’t all that engaged. That’s what happens when you occupy the white house while ignoring reality.

  • Marcus_Traianus

    This is me waiving goodbye to Obama
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  • Marcus_Traianus

    This is me waiving goodbye to Obama
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  • bootwearinsmith

    still gonna be tough to beat. Wait til the MSM gets their hands on our nominee. If it’s Romney, Obama is a pillar of consistency versus a wobbly jello-like flip flopper. If it’s Perry, it’s mister Obama the Intellectual thinke rvs the racist, stupid Southerner. If it’s Cain, it’s Obama the anti-Wall Street candidate, vs. the big bad scary corporatist. This election is far from being in the bag for us, folks. It’s gonna be a long, hard, tough slog to beat this guy.

    • http://online.logcabin.org/about/ suzieQ

      I remember in 2010 when Harry Reid was down 20 points in the polls against generic republican. We all know how that turned out.

    • renl57

      They’re going to try to win ugly.

      Robert Shrum:

      “The Tea Partiers have fled Bachmann, first for Rick Perry and then for former pizza magnate Herman Cain. (As my stepson Michael asked, have they ever actually tasted a Godfather’s pizza?) Perry in turn proved wanting and waned in the polls ? and Cain soon will. But they have both reinforced the notion of an out-of-touch, out-of-bounds Republican Party….
      “we all know the game plan Romney will pursue ? pivot to jobs and the economy. But here, too, he will be hobbled by his own record as a take-over artist who dismembered companies and destroyed jobs ? and by the positions he’s taken against tax fairness and in favor of unfettered speculation….
      “It’s clear that the president won’t let 2012 be cast as a referendum; he’s now setting out the basic choice: Who’s on your side?”

      http://theweek.com/bullpen/column/220143/the-gops-sad-intolerant-2012-field/2

      The only way the Dems can win is by character assassination of the Republican nominee. And that’s what they’re setting out to do.

      • deuke

        As I have said before – elsewhere, in public, I was at the ground floor of the Tea Party movement; that I didn’t incorporate or organize, and yet have had a voice in several areas of the country as a “conservative” and a Tea Party supporter. That was until I realized that the three major Tea Party organizations: ‘Patriots, Express, and Nation,’ were being manipulated by either the Koch brothers or, and now I hear, Karl Rove. I’m happy to say I remained independent of these groups, though many of their goals are the same as mine. That is not to say that I believe the Koch brothers’s goals are contrary to mine – just that they are much more self-serving.

        I supported Herman Cain, when I hadn’t heard a word from anyone else that he was even a viable candidate. I don’t know when these alleged Tea Party organizations jumped on my band wagon over Cain, and don’t really care. For me, picking a candidate to vote for is an informed decision. There’s been no ‘flip-floppin’ in my support of a conservative candidate ever – and neither is there now.

        However, I have been educated recently about something that may be lacking in Herman Cain that I hadn’t thought of before – and it had nothing to do with his pizzas. It had to do with his readiness for a national and world stage. I’m looking forward to Mr. Cain rectifying that lack, and I believe he will. If he doesn’t then the choices are very slim to none. Romney, will never get my vote.

        • ag8tor

          you’d vote for Obama rather than vote for Romney? You are no Tea Party member!

        • deuke

          I’m sorry, I think you misunderstood me. I said, “Romney will not get my vote.” If it comes down to a choice between Romney and Obama, I’ll pray that you and your family make up the loss of my vote, because I will vote for neither.

          If the Republican party can’t nominate a candidate with more quality and integrity than Romney, then the Republican party is in more trouble than I imagine. I’ll continue to support Herman Cain, and pray that he will progress past his possible shortcomings. And as always, pray that GOD’s will be done.

          Thanks for the comment.

          • gekster

            Conservative in the Primary, Republican in the general.

            And with your attitude, why are you even posting here.
            Just sit it out with your friends, and enjoy 4 more years of Obama.

          • rightwingmom52

            If Obama is re-elected, you and your family as well as the rest of us will be paying for it for years to come because it’s likely that the next POTUS will appoint at least 2 supremes (probably to replace Kennedy & Scalia). That would be a nightmare.

            Are you willing to tell your children that you sat out voting as a protest against the GOP nominee or are you willing to do everything in your power to make sure Obama isn’t re-elected, including voting for Romney if he’s the nominee? I don’t want Romney, either, but anybody in the GOP field is lightyears better than Obama, not to mention that working for the GOP nominee helps to elect those on the local and state level.

    • evas

      his tendency to bypass the Constitution and the Law. I put nothing past him.

    • rosanadana

      bootwearinsmith has it right . . can’t rely on polls to elect a president!

      Obama has NEVER admitted to any mistakes ever, so he will stick by his dismal record with the MSM reporting positively. This will reflect negatively on Romney’s Massachusetts’ healthcare reform, the basis for Obamacare, a priority issue for defeat by conservatives.

      Obama has strongly supported the Dream Act & amnesty for illegals if only to add to the liberals’ base. This will make it difficult for Perry to defend giving in-state tuition to illegals in TX.

      Obama now has ‘executive experience’ irregardless of the divisive, polarizing, damaging results. Cain has executive experience though no meaningful government resume which the MSM, as well as many in elective office, will criticize.

      Expect a repeat of 2008 with dirty-tricks Axelrod still at the helm of Obama’s campaign. Some have said it will be the dirtiest in history.
      I say it will be the most biased, subjective & polarizing by the media.

      Unfortunately, damage is done once a commercial is run (see NY race with wheel-chair Granny being pushed over the hill). No response can replace the visual image! Most assuredly, there will be millions of dollars of those visuals.

      Must acknowledge also that Obama is an expert at “soundbites” & twisting words. He will survive any “debate” . . .in 30 sec he can create lots of chaos. At the same time, any conservative will need ample time to contradict Obama’s policies & record to be effective & properly inform the public. As now, the MSM will control that format.

      We will need every vote!

  • citizenjerry

    The majority opposes a second term for Obama? We might just get one anyway if the GOP wizards of smart continue to foist the Democrat Light Romney on us as our candidate. He’s either Dole version 3 or McCain version 2.

    • rosanadana

      Romney is a flip-flopper from day one, even the line in his own book that was eliminated in the later paperback edition . . . since he suggested Romneycare would be good for the country. Now he’s on the opposite side of Obamacare, of abortion choice & of gay rights as well as many other policies. How’s that going to work? Chris Christie has lost my confidence by publicly backing Romney today.
      The Christie endorsement has spoiled the ongoing race.

      Apparently, from putting together pieces here & there, I take it that Karl Rove, the Bush family, especially Jeb, Mitch Daniels & other powerful Republicans do not want Rick Perry president–why? why? why? I found reference to the ‘power group’ solidly backing Christie, until his announcement last week. The only reference I’ve found to explain any of this is that Perry may have boasted about his besting some of Bush’s accomplishments as governor of TX? That seems petty of Rove & the Bush family when the country is in total chaos.

      Does anyone know the background of the Bush-Perry tension?

  • johnt

    Wait for it. From 2008 to 2011 we succumbed to evil, a decline probably unmatched in history, and not to be doubted or questioned.
    That one doesn’t explain the criticism of Reid and Pelosi but then we sswitch over to just plain Hate.
    Meanwhile the Stumblebum in the WH is showing signs of deterioration, the bills are coming due, Fast & Furious, etc,etc.. Yes O, you overrated the media’s ability to cover your sorry ass, you misplayed your hand.

  • wolfgang

    With only 51 per cent wanting Obama out, its still within the range of the Democrats Legendary Ballot Box Chicanery to move in and steal it for him. Four more years of Barack Hussein Obama guarantees no more tomorrows for either the Constitution or America.
    If America isn’t careful handling the Occupy Wall Street Protestors we could end up with Presidente For Life Barack Hussein Obama, like his goombah Hugo Chavez in Venezuela, Barry Hussein is ideally situated with his right hand man Eric Holder at his side to act as The Great Facilitator in suspending the Constitution and with it our rights of elections. Bev Perdue already released the trial balloon, but don’t think for a second that it simply crashed and burned within 24 hours of its release.
    What if Glenn Beck was right and Barack Obama is not “Well intentioned but stupid, but purely evil”?

    • evas

      excellent! My thoughts exactly.

  • lastgopinillinois

    When I checked the county records, I discovered that there were NO recorded votes in several city blocks in my district (meaning my vote was not recorded). It is a VERY liberal, pro-union district. They ask you to announce what party you are voting for OUT LOUD before they give you the ballot. I suspect that is a “cue” for the man standing at the vote recording machine to delete your ballot.
    Nevertheless, I cant wait to see debates between 0bama and the republican candidates.
    If nothing else, Gingrich would absolutely DESTROY 0bama in a debate on ANY subject matter concerning govt in a wide open debate with no moderator. I would pay to see it.

  • publious

    America has one last opportunity to survive. One candidate is a tested free market capitalist of solid character; the other is an incompetent leftist academic. Occasio Ultima: We’re screwed if it takes longer than the length of this video for voters to decide.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDBwa4bKKmA

  • ag8tor

    the forgetful nature of the American voter…legal or otherwise. The Dems proved in 2008 that they would try to win at ANY cost. The Acorn scandals, the union thuggery, the Balck Panther polling place intimidation, dead and non-existent voters, recruiting the homeless in one state to vote in another…etc. These should have been enormous red flags but like Hitler they were mesmerizeed by a silver tounged devil. Unfortunately that same STD is already stummping at our expense and promising the moon to enhance his re-election. Saddly there are still some uninformed “hope & Changers” that still don’t have a clue, who will support this Marxist. We cannot let up until after the November 2012 election.

  • kenchely

    There is good news and bad news for Obama in this. On the one hand, at least a few per cent of those saying he should not be re-elected are radical leftists of the “Occupy Wall Street” sort who are part of his base. When push comes to shove, and they have to choose between Obama and Mitt Romney, or Obama and Herman Cain, or Obama and Newt Gingrich, they will vote for Obama, much as most of those Republicans who say they wouldn’t vote for Mitt Romney will, when they really have to choose between Romney and Obama, vote for Romney. So the real hard-core “don’t re-elect Obama” percentage is probably something like 45%.

    The bad news for him is that this means that the neutral responses on his re-election aren’t coming from the far Left who will break for him at the end. If those undecided break evenly between him and the Republican, he loses. An idea of how that vote is likely to break can be seen in the fact that the independents were more against him than the whole sample; if Independents vote against him by the present 18-point margin, he’s going down in a landslide. And the more he ties himself to the leftist loons in “Occupy Wall Street”, the more he will be viewed as an extremist for whom independents will certainly not vote.

    • deuke

      As I said earlier, I will not vote for Romney, but I think you might be right, others will if comes down to Romney and Obama.

      I think it’s a shame that the conservatives in this country don’t speak a little louder and demand that the Republican party nominate a candidate with integrity, honesty, and genuine trust in the American spirit – as so excellently documented by the Founding Fathers.

      That would be Herman Cain in my book.

    • kyconservative

      Conservatives need to go ahead and get the infrastructure in place in case the Wall Street/corporatist/RINO win of the Party is successful in forcing Mitt Romney down our our throats. I’d love to see Herman Cain on a conservative ticket and think he would draw votes from all across the political spectrum if the choices are Cain, Obama and Romney.

      One thing I know for sure. There is no way in hell I am voting for Mitt Romney. I’d rather have Obama for another four years instead. At least with Obama’s re-election, people would be ten times more ticked off in 2016 and by then, hopefully we would have a conservative in place to run. Moreover, with Obama re-elected, we would at least keep a halfway conservative Congress for a few more years.

      From what Mark Steyn writes, it’s probably too late for America anyway. It seems like we are just playing musical chairs on the Titanic. If we get Obama or Romney in 2012, anyone know any countries that will accept American emigrants?

      • inzo

        and it’s all over. There is no 2016. At least not with the USA as a Constitutional Republic. 4 more years with NO constraints and no ethical or moral compass will see the destruction of this great country of ours. I am a Cain/Bachmann fan and, as you, have no use for the RINO Romney but I care too much for this country to cut off my nose to spite my face. Too many sat out 2008 because of McAmnesty, but the result was travesty!!!. We can take no more. This is not a typical election. This is absolute tyranny vs a squish, but at least the squish won’t “fundamentally change ” America.
        Let’s work hard for the HermaCain, but if he doesn’t get it, lets at least vote for the preservation of the USA

  • deuke

    I can see by the comments here, and in other places across the country that there is a consensus of conservatives; Romney isn’t the top of everyone’s list as nominee.

    There is nothing worse to me than people who say things like, well since we can’t find anyone better, let’s at least vote the guy in who wears the title of “conservative.” Are you all blind? Who do you think the media has put the spotlight on? Romney. They think they have the power to nominate. Wrong – we do. That is if it hasn’t been stolen completely from us.

    I have supported Herman Cain since soon after he announced his candidacy, and I had the opportunity to be informed about who he is and what he stands for. The media is afraid of Cain. They know that putting Herman Cain up against the man who is fast becoming despised by a majority of Americans, will hammer the “flatterer” from Illinois. They are being told to back Obama or Romney.

    I say, let’s show the same power we showed in the last election and make Cain the nominee and I’ll nearly guarantee you that Obama, and whatever dirty tricks he pulls will not get past the starting gate – the “flatterer” will be taking a flight back to Chicago or Kenya, wherever suits him.

    • bzip

      The sooner people get off the Cain Train Wreck the better.

      His 999 plan is a disaster for new taxes, higher taxes not to mention he has no elected experience at all. I am afraid the Cain cult has already started good luck with your new Messiah.

      • deuke

        Herman Cain’s ’999′ tax proposal isn’t as far-fetched as you must believe. As he explained this morning to George Stephanopoulos – not completely mind you, but a bit better; the 9-cents sales tax is offset by the reduction in income tax, and doesn’t include used goods.

        I’m hearing the arguments about the increase in deficit, yada-yada, blah-blah, but what you’re not hearing included in these “discussions,” is that spending is already being decreased, which is a large contributor to the deficit, and will continue to be decreased as we put a business, and free enterprise conservative in the White House, and add some more conservatives to the House and Senate. Isn’t that the way it’s done – we vote for the right people and pray for them to turn a Godless society around?

        I think it’s more than the right time to tell the Godless, “How dare you defy the armies of GOD!”

        Herman Cain has a shot, and I’ll continue to support him until I hear otherwise from my true Messiah – some call HIM, Jesus, others, Yeshua!

  • neverforobama

    They say that women elected Obama and I’m worried.
    My neighbor, who should know better, just “liked” Barack Obama’s page on Facebook today.
    If there are still lots of uninformed (or brainwashed by the MSM) people out there who will be going to the polls next year, Obama with “Chicago-style-voting fraud” could still win.

    • deuke

      We’re not gonna let him win. He’s a flatterer, and will be swept away in about, what is it, 13 months?