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		<title>By: Amy Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/cdyer88/2009/11/09/carrie-prejean-does-not-represent-me/#comment-178</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wing me an e-mail at purdueA@gmail.com...always nice to be able to network with law students who aren't completely off the deep end :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wing me an e-mail at <a href="mailto:purdueA@gmail.com">purdueA@gmail.com</a>&#8230;always nice to be able to network with law students who aren&#8217;t completely off the deep end <img src='http://www.redstate.com/cdyer88/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: mbecker908</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/cdyer88/2009/11/09/carrie-prejean-does-not-represent-me/#comment-174</link>
		<dc:creator>mbecker908</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've got to call the chef-son and see what he can whip up with those ingredients.</description>
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		<title>By: Xasteius</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/cdyer88/2009/11/09/carrie-prejean-does-not-represent-me/#comment-173</link>
		<dc:creator>Xasteius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Martin Knight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: penguin2</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMHO, cyder88 and her sockpuppets cmack and gracenearing, are trolls.  gracenearing was gakked yesterday in another thread. cyder just wanted to come here and see how many would get on board with her anger and nastiness toward Carrie.  Must have some kind warped preconceived notions.  Cyder then found the only thing we won't tolerate, is intolerance.  Her trying to compare apples and oranges was a red herring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMHO, cyder88 and her sockpuppets cmack and gracenearing, are trolls.  gracenearing was gakked yesterday in another thread. cyder just wanted to come here and see how many would get on board with her anger and nastiness toward Carrie.  Must have some kind warped preconceived notions.  Cyder then found the only thing we won&#8217;t tolerate, is intolerance.  Her trying to compare apples and oranges was a red herring.</p>
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		<title>By: mbecker908</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wake up and come to the party fools.

The "problem" with this post is that it DOESN'T BELONG HERE.  This is not a "religious" site.  If you want to post this stuff somewhere, go find a religion/theology site.  My guess is that it wouldn't be received much better there than here though for different reasons.

There hasn't been much in the way of "nastiness" about this diary in the comments section.  The nastiness was pretty well relegated to the diary itself.

Anyway, the whole point of the irritation about this thing is that the left is launching and carrying through major attacks on our freedoms and you're focusing on Carrie's appearance in a bathing suit.  If that's really where your priorities are you really don't belong here.  Actually, if that's really the case I'm not sure you belong anywhere.

Good riddance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wake up and come to the party fools.</p>
<p>The &#8220;problem&#8221; with this post is that it DOESN&#8217;T BELONG HERE.  This is not a &#8220;religious&#8221; site.  If you want to post this stuff somewhere, go find a religion/theology site.  My guess is that it wouldn&#8217;t be received much better there than here though for different reasons.</p>
<p>There hasn&#8217;t been much in the way of &#8220;nastiness&#8221; about this diary in the comments section.  The nastiness was pretty well relegated to the diary itself.</p>
<p>Anyway, the whole point of the irritation about this thing is that the left is launching and carrying through major attacks on our freedoms and you&#8217;re focusing on Carrie&#8217;s appearance in a bathing suit.  If that&#8217;s really where your priorities are you really don&#8217;t belong here.  Actually, if that&#8217;s really the case I&#8217;m not sure you belong anywhere.</p>
<p>Good riddance.</p>
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		<title>By: qurys</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that a person's hypocricy should have something to do with the issue they oppose?  That is common sense - ergo-----nonsense.I am personally opposed to weight gain, but I guess that McDonalds burger I had last night makes me a hypocrite. It is sadly amusing while watching these children in the schoolyard at recess bully one another. No one stops to say "stick and stones will break my bones...."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that a person&#8217;s hypocricy should have something to do with the issue they oppose?  That is common sense - ergo&#8212;&#8211;nonsense.I am personally opposed to weight gain, but I guess that McDonalds burger I had last night makes me a hypocrite. It is sadly amusing while watching these children in the schoolyard at recess bully one another. No one stops to say &#8220;stick and stones will break my bones&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: gunnerbs</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to post anywhere you choose...unless you are paying for the domain.  The moderaters here at RedState graciously allow you to post, under certain conditions.  Now, do I think you should be banned for this post--certainly not.  But remember that when you speak your mind, others are going to disagree.

I, for one, disagree with your post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to post anywhere you choose&#8230;unless you are paying for the domain.  The moderaters here at RedState graciously allow you to post, under certain conditions.  Now, do I think you should be banned for this post&#8211;certainly not.  But remember that when you speak your mind, others are going to disagree.</p>
<p>I, for one, disagree with your post.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Knight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One's views can be influenced or informed by any variety of sources. That she has posed topless and made a tape of herself having solo sex does not all of a sudden make it hypocritical or wrong that her opposition to gay marriage is informed by her religious beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One&#8217;s views can be influenced or informed by any variety of sources. That she has posed topless and made a tape of herself having solo sex does not all of a sudden make it hypocritical or wrong that her opposition to gay marriage is informed by her religious beliefs.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Knight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;"Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity."&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Left-Wingers are never happier than when they get to point the finger and self-righteously accuse the other side of that most greatest of sins; "hypocrisy!" 

The problem, of course, in this case, is that this young lady (if she is indeed young or a lady ... or even female - she certainly is no conservative and is quite frankly, hard to believe as someone with much more than a fleeting relationship with religion) is really unhappy with Carrie Prejean for standing up against gay marriage.

So the next thing is to attack her personally (&lt;i&gt;Rule 13: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.&lt;/i&gt;) and play the hypocrite card by accusing Prejean of failing to live up to their imagination of &lt;b&gt;her&lt;/b&gt; Christian standards. 

Then comes the attempt to conflate everything together. 

You see, Prejean is a hypocrite for opposing gay marriage. Why? She wore a bikini on stage and she has made a (solo) sex tape. David Vitter is a hypocrite for opposing gay marriage. Why? He slept with prostitutes. John Ensign is a hypocrite for opposing gay marriage. Why? He had an affair ...

One wonders what one (e.g. gay marriage and wearing swimsuits in public) has to do with the other. According to Lefties like this poster, one can't do both - or else one is a "hypocrite". Strangely enough, they're completely oblivious to the fact that they're not making a good argument for themselves by implicitly arguing that people who visit prostitutes and adulterers should naturally support gay marriage.

Now if Prejean, Vitter, Ensign, etc. were married to people of the same sex while opposing gay marriage then I'd be more inclined to pay attention to the charges of hypocrisy.

Otherwise ... I'm just amused by it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Left-Wingers are never happier than when they get to point the finger and self-righteously accuse the other side of that most greatest of sins; &#8220;hypocrisy!&#8221; </p>
<p>The problem, of course, in this case, is that this young lady (if she is indeed young or a lady &#8230; or even female - she certainly is no conservative and is quite frankly, hard to believe as someone with much more than a fleeting relationship with religion) is really unhappy with Carrie Prejean for standing up against gay marriage.</p>
<p>So the next thing is to attack her personally (<i>Rule 13: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.</i>) and play the hypocrite card by accusing Prejean of failing to live up to their imagination of <b>her</b> Christian standards. </p>
<p>Then comes the attempt to conflate everything together. </p>
<p>You see, Prejean is a hypocrite for opposing gay marriage. Why? She wore a bikini on stage and she has made a (solo) sex tape. David Vitter is a hypocrite for opposing gay marriage. Why? He slept with prostitutes. John Ensign is a hypocrite for opposing gay marriage. Why? He had an affair &#8230;</p>
<p>One wonders what one (e.g. gay marriage and wearing swimsuits in public) has to do with the other. According to Lefties like this poster, one can&#8217;t do both - or else one is a &#8220;hypocrite&#8221;. Strangely enough, they&#8217;re completely oblivious to the fact that they&#8217;re not making a good argument for themselves by implicitly arguing that people who visit prostitutes and adulterers should naturally support gay marriage.</p>
<p>Now if Prejean, Vitter, Ensign, etc. were married to people of the same sex while opposing gay marriage then I&#8217;d be more inclined to pay attention to the charges of hypocrisy.</p>
<p>Otherwise &#8230; I&#8217;m just amused by it.</p>
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		<title>By: TNJim</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Amy Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>n/t needed</description>
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		<title>By: Sean Gleeson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Gleeson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don’t see where all nude photography is immoral, either. All I said was "I could understand" if that's what Chelsea Dyer's complaint was. I didn't mean to leave the impression that I think all nude photography was immoral.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t see where all nude photography is immoral, either. All I said was &#8220;I could understand&#8221; if that&#8217;s what Chelsea Dyer&#8217;s complaint was. I didn&#8217;t mean to leave the impression that I think all nude photography was immoral.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoy life in the hyper-emotional, nonsensical, tripe-filled lane!</description>
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		<title>By: Amy Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If you were only talking about nude or obscene photography, I could understand.&lt;/i&gt;

I don't see where all nude photography is immoral.  The human body is a beautiful, wonderful thing--why wouldn't we want to see it?  Bear with me--I'm not saying that Playboy spreads are beautiful and artistic, but nude artwork &lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt; be done in a way that doesn't violate our moral fabric.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If you were only talking about nude or obscene photography, I could understand.</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see where all nude photography is immoral.  The human body is a beautiful, wonderful thing&#8211;why wouldn&#8217;t we want to see it?  Bear with me&#8211;I&#8217;m not saying that Playboy spreads are beautiful and artistic, but nude artwork <i>can</i> be done in a way that doesn&#8217;t violate our moral fabric.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wing me a tweet @amy_m_miller</description>
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		<title>By: civil_truth</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The lack of any sense of humor, highlighting their self-preoccupation.

Hence my &lt;a href="http://www.redstate.com/cdyer88/2009/11/09/carrie-prejean-does-not-represent-me/#comment-70"&gt;Lewis excerpt yesterday&lt;/a&gt;.

And of course, that mark is the set-up for the classic joke:

&lt;em&gt;How many radical feminists does it take to change a light bulb?&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lack of any sense of humor, highlighting their self-preoccupation.</p>
<p>Hence my <a href="http://www.redstate.com/cdyer88/2009/11/09/carrie-prejean-does-not-represent-me/#comment-70">Lewis excerpt yesterday</a>.</p>
<p>And of course, that mark is the set-up for the classic joke:</p>
<p><em>How many radical feminists does it take to change a light bulb?</em></p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is obviously not your friend.</description>
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		<title>By: Steph C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steph C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>any of my freshly baked pumpkin pies, that's for sure.

cyder88 doesn't speak for me any more than Carrie Prejean does. Temper tantrums don't work for my grandsons and they're much younger. She ought to know better.

Twice I asked her if she was a lefty troll. The only answer she gave was to attack anybody who disagreed with her/it. Case closed as far as I'm concerned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>any of my freshly baked pumpkin pies, that&#8217;s for sure.</p>
<p>cyder88 doesn&#8217;t speak for me any more than Carrie Prejean does. Temper tantrums don&#8217;t work for my grandsons and they&#8217;re much younger. She ought to know better.</p>
<p>Twice I asked her if she was a lefty troll. The only answer she gave was to attack anybody who disagreed with her/it. Case closed as far as I&#8217;m concerned.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let's see how long this version manages to last.  Although it was nice to use her/it for a plaything yesterday.  Don't think she/it ever managed to notice that we were having a good bit of fun whilst kicking her shins.  Another badge of a lefty--no pronounced sense of humor, only that grim bitterness that would curdle whipped cream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see how long this version manages to last.  Although it was nice to use her/it for a plaything yesterday.  Don&#8217;t think she/it ever managed to notice that we were having a good bit of fun whilst kicking her shins.  Another badge of a lefty&#8211;no pronounced sense of humor, only that grim bitterness that would curdle whipped cream.</p>
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