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2012 GOP Primary Rankings

It is time again to rank the odds of candidates running for the GOP nomination for president.  I understand some will dissagree, and comments are welcome.  However, my ranking is:

1. Perry –  Gov Rick Perry would have had no shot to win the GOP nomination if he ran 4 years ago.  This year, he is in a better possition than anyone else to win.  Here is why.  First, other potential candidates who would compete with him (and crowd out his chances) such as Gov. Haley Barbour, are not running.  Second, the political environment has shifted greatly to his advantage.  Third, he is the only candidate who does not face competition for his niche of voters.  Gov. Perry’s core supporters are likely to be people who are looking to win in 2012.  They are looking for someone who is not Obama, who has been a consistant conservative, and who cannot be painted as out-of-the-mainstream by the Democrats.  They also want someone with an economic message.  Gov. Perry has passed conservative budgets and laws in Texas.  Texas’s economy is doing much better than the nation as a whole.  Perry is also broadly acceptable to a wide range of people in the GOP, spanning support from social conservatives, tea partiers, and the establishment.  He may not be everyone’s first choice, but he remains broadly acceptable.  Perry also has the advantage of being viewed as more acceptable than Romney.  Also very importaint, he can run on a good message that focuses on the unemployment rate in Texas as compared to the rest of the country.  That he is from Texas is not going to hurt him with voters.  They care about getting a good job, and their family and friends getting jobs. 

2. Romney  — Governor Romney is the default nominee.  He has a core group of supporters, and is broadly acceptable to the GOP in much the same way Perry is.  He has a few major downsides, though.  First, Romney never could inspire great support with social conservatives.  He was always ok, but not great.  Second, Romneycare remains a major thorn in his side.  Romneycare was tolerable in 2008, but now is highly unpopular.  If Perry self-destructs, Romney will likely win.  As many imperfections as he has, he is still — compared with the rest of the field — a golden boy.  He is broadly acceptable to a range of voters from social conservatives, to tea partiers, to the establishment.  Not a first choice, but he is viewed as better than Obama and someone who could win. 

3.  Pawlenty — Governor Pawlenty has not run a good campaign so far.  He has also faced stiff competition from Bachmann.  Bachmann appears to have more tea party support, which is not the area where Pawlenty should even be competing for votes at. That said, he remains a governor who won election in a blue state and who is conservative.  He remains broadly acceptable.  His problem, however, is that he lacks a base of support to grow from.  He has a narrow path to victory.  That path requires him to perform well in the Ames straw poll, and for Bachmann to do poorly. 

4.  Bachmann -  I don’t think Rep Bachmann can win. I’d like to start by saying that, generally speaking, congressmen/women need to run for governor (or at-the-least senator) before making a serious white-house bid.  That said, specific to her, I do not think she can obtain support from the establishment, nor from moderates.  She went too far in opposing the debt deal as activily as she did.  She even opposed cut, cap, and balance.  That said, I could be wrong.  She retains high support with tea partiers, and is ahead in polling for Ames.  A victory at Ames (and I am not one who thinks it needs to be a landslide) would result in her moving out of the qualifying round and able to challenge Romney and Perry in Iowa.  Iowa, for her, is another must-win.  A win there and she will be a serious candidate.

5.  Paul – If there is a father of the tea party movement, it is Rep Ron Paul.  He is a true believer in the movement and has had a major impact on the GOP over the last 4 years (since his last run).  His poll number are rising.  That said, I just don’t see any path whereby he wins the nomination.  A win at Ames would change that.  However, I don’t see that likely.  Also, as with Bachmann, Paul is a member of the House, and thus a very unlikely next president.  Generally speaking, Governors and (to a lesser-extent) Senators have a chance to win.  House Reps do not have a good chance.

6. Santorum – Senator Santorum would be a broadly acceptable candidate.  He stands by his principles and as a consistant conservative.  That said, he was a senator in a blue state up for election in 2006.  He wasn’t just up for election, but up for election against the most popular Democrat in the state — Sen. Casey.  He never had a chance.  Frankly, no one in the GOP would have.  That said, he still lost.  He got blown out.  My opinion is Santorum is no longer a serious candidate for the GOP nomination.  That said, he is a serious candidate for VP IF a governor wins the nomination.  He is not a VP consideration if a non-governor wins.  What he offers for a governor candidate for president is (1) ability to pass legislation, (2) conservative bonafides, (3) clearly qualified and solid choice.  That said, he would be a better VP consideration for Romney (who needs help with social conservatives), than for someone like Perry (who does well with social conservatives.

7. Huntsman — No chance.  To liberal.

8.  Cain — No chance.  Couldn’t win general election and lacks experience.

9.  Gingrich — No chance.  So many reasons to list that make things hard.  Horrible campaign, lack of apparent interest, etc.  The reason he is listed below even Cain and Huntsman that he is such a horrible campaigner that he would be listed higher in the polls if he didn’t run!

VP shortlist

1. Gov. McDonnell – he is the clear choice for any non-governor, but also a consideration for governors.  A Perry-McDonnell ticket is a great contrast between the conservative, well managed states of Texas and Virginia — with balanced budgets and no tax increases; as compared to DC.  If I were a betting man, it would be on a Perry-McDonnell ticket.  That said, McDonnell would be a better boost to non governors

2,3,4.  Barbour, Daniels, and Jindal.  In that order.  This rounds-out the best of the governor choices. 

5.  Brownback.  Governor and former Senator.  He is a good choice for a Romney, or in the unforseeable sitaution where a Hunstman wins.  Brownback consistants of a broadly-acceptable candidate who will solidify a presidental candidates standing with social conservatives — without being the fire-rod that some others are.  He brings some level of international experience, help in managing the Senate, and governor experience.  Of critical importaince he is not now in the house or Senate.

VP is often someone picked who is not expected.  That said, I think there are some groups of people who are unlikely VP choices.  The main ones being current Senators and current members of the House of Representatives.  The environment in Washington is toxic.  It is politically unpopular to pick someone inside the beltway.  Governors and ex-Senators remain, now, the viable options.  Governors of states doing well (low unemployment) are the best picking grouds.  None better than McDonnell.  The 2012 GOP message is NOT going to be the debt, spending, social issues, or government.  It is going to be about the economy.  The best possitioned to argue they can fix it are going to be governors of states that are doing well economically.  They will say that they will change washington to make it more like their state. That they did it before and will do it again.  The second main qualifier is someone who cannot be pained as extreme.  Third, is someone who is broadly acceptable to the GOP.  Finally, it is critical that the VP not tick off any part of the country.  No need to ignite democrats and make them mad and want to get active.  Governors have executive experience.  They win state-wide elections.  They will be the top choice for VP.  (and, as you can see, the top 3 choices I had for president also).

COMMENTS

  • Doc Holliday

    had zero, zippy, nada, nothing to do with the birth of the Tea Party! Anyone who claims he had something to do with the Tea Party is either a liar or has no idea what the Tea Party is about.

    I have said this before, but if ANYONE can claim to have started the Tea Party, it is this guy. btw, youtube chopped the video up to imply fewer people have seen this video. The most recent accounting, from Rick himself, is that it has been viewed over 3,00,000 times.

    But in reality, that guy just gave a national voice to what millions where thinking. And those millions took up the challenge and made the movement themselves.

    • devereaux

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8LsnbN7d-8

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNP1-bokv2g

      http://tinyurl.com/dh6rf7

  • Doc Holliday

    the diary has some merit.

  • acat

    (nothing further)

  • Darin_H

    to meow in support…

    Ron Paul is not the father of the tea party movement. Rick Santelli is

  • Castor

    MARCO RUBIO with anybody!

  • 6eorge Jetson

    w/ individual candidate’s odds to win nomination taken from intrade.com

    RINO Regional
    Mitt Romney 33.5%
    Jon Huntsman 7.5%

    Conservative Vote Suitors Regional
    Rick Perry 31.1%
    Tim Pawlenty 6.5%
    Michele Bachmann 6.0%
    The Sarah Palin option 6.6%

    Gonzaga
    Ron Paul 3.6%

    Other options on unlikely candidates
    Chris Christie 1.8%
    Paul Ryan 0.5%
    Jeb Bush 0.3%
    Marco Rubio 0.3%
    Mike Huckabee 0.2%
    Haley Barbour 0.1%
    Mitch Daniels 0.1%

    Based on this crude, way-too-early, and seat-of-the-pants analysis, whoever survives the Conservative Vote Suitors Regional has ~50% of the likelihood, to ~%40 of the likelihood for the RINO camp. Or slightly more likely than not. But the 40% RINO likelihood is 40%, not zero. Kinda like a touchdown underdog in football.

  • onemovoter

    As far as Iowa, I do think the polling is fluctuating quite a bit. However there are 4 or 5 that are maintaining at the top.

    Romney, Bachmann, Paul, Perry, and Cain. Cain will surprise people on the straw poll as his ground game is as good as Paul’s is. I think Cain will probably get 3rd or 4th in the straw poll. I don’t think Romney will do as well as the polling says in Iowa. Probably will end up 5th. Ron Paul will probably do the same as Cain so will flip 3rd or 4th with him. Bachmann has a good shot at 1st place but that will be the only time she’ll be in that position. Perry will be the big surprise in the straw poll showing 2nd or 3rd while not being officially on the list.

    If I had to guess what will happen by Sept. 3rd, I am predicting that Perry will come in strong this weekend, and will then get a bigger shot up on Sept 3rd when Palin speaks in Iowa announcing she is not running and is moving to support Perry. Another shot up will come when Rudy comes out and throws his support behind Perry.

    I know people have mentioned Marco Rubio, but I believe him when he said he wouldn’t consider VP. VP slot needs a attack dog type person from a much needed state. What do you all think of Rudy? Would that be too much for tea party/social conservatives? Would Fred Thompson come back and join forces? I know a state gov would be good but the good ones are barely into their first term. Maybe we should have a VP contest.

    oh… meow back at acat.

  • johnconradarens

    And Farron Yong is the Godfather of Hip-Hop, too.

    Ron Paul has more in common with George McGovern than he does with ANY Republican when it comes to foreign policy. He has as much chance at becoming the Republican Presidential Nominee as my pet goldfish.

    He DOES have a very dedicated core of hangers-on that make his poll numbers fluctuate, depending on how many have taken their meds and can answer the telephone rationally.

  • Doc Holliday

    Rubio has said a hundred times he is staying put. I don’t want to give FL another chance to elect a Crist.

  • Bill S

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  • logicalliberty

    have more in common with Lyndon Johnson and Woodrow Wilson when it comes to foreign policy than any true conservative.

    It’s preposterous to think that the Tea Party foreign policy position should be to borrow hundreds of billions of dollars from China to to build infrastructure in Iraq and Afghanistan and protect borders in the middle east rather than the borders back home.

  • BA Cyclone

    that is all.

  • gekster

    nt

  • acat

    is thinking that what started as a *fiscal* policy protest even has a foreign policy.

    Ron Paul can try to co-opt the wave, but .. I do not see the wave taking kindly to Doctor Porky.

    Mew

  • Doc Holliday

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  • BA Cyclone

    Perry will not be allowed to have even a table on the grounds, unless that has changed in the last couple of weeks. Decision of the Straw poll committee. So you apparently expect significant numbers of Perry voters (who likely only have read about him on the internet or seen some YouTube videos at best) to walk past all these wonderful tents and promotions for the other candidates, pay $30 of their own money for the ballot, and write in Rick Perry?

    The organized candidates will have bus transportation to Ames available, large promotional tents, and comp the price of the ballot.

    My prediction is a fight between Bachmann and TPaw for 1-2, Paul will be in the top 3 since it’s a straw poll, and Cain is playing for 4th at best. The rest of the field has to fight for 5th…frankly I am surprised Romney still polls as well as he does here. If Romney sneaks into the top 4 or better that might be a sign of strength, considering he is still running on fumes from 2007.

    Pawlenty *has* to be in the top 2 or he is toast, and they have been working the grassroots and local events HARD. Pawlenty told a friend that the Straw poll winner will probably have shaken the hand of all their voters once, and probably at least twice. He is campaigning as such.

    Cain has all but canceled most Iowa events for maybe the past month, up until just this week when he is doing a stretch run to the debate and the Straw poll. He is hoping what is *left* of his grassroots campaign can help him score top 3. If the Straw poll was in May he might have had a shot at a surprise finish. I don’t expect much, but whenver he speaks people like what they hear so who knows.

    Perry and Palin have supporters visiting local R committee meetings but as they do not have official campaigns they are very limited. Grass shoots of the grassroots if you know what I mean. If the Straw poll was in September or October it might be different, but that is during the season of college sports and harvest!

    1. Bachmann
    2. Pawlenty
    3. Paul
    4. Cain
    5. Romney
    6+. who cares

  • BA Cyclone

    Perry will not be allowed to have even a table on the grounds, unless that has changed in the last couple of weeks. Decision of the Straw poll committee. So you apparently expect significant numbers of Perry voters (who likely only have read about him on the internet or seen some YouTube videos at best) to walk past all these wonderful tents and promotions for the other candidates, pay $30 of their own money for the ballot, and write in Rick Perry?

    The organized candidates will have bus transportation to Ames available, large promotional tents, and comp the price of the ballot.

    My prediction is a fight between Bachmann and TPaw for 1-2, Paul will be in the top 3 since it’s a straw poll, and Cain is playing for 4th at best. The rest of the field has to fight for 5th…frankly I am surprised Romney still polls as well as he does here. If Romney sneaks into the top 4 or better that might be a sign of strength, considering he is still running on fumes from 2007.

    Pawlenty *has* to be in the top 2 or he is toast, and they have been working the grassroots and local events HARD. Pawlenty told a friend that the Straw poll winner will probably have shaken the hand of all their voters once, and probably at least twice. He is campaigning as such.

    Cain has all but canceled most Iowa events for maybe the past month, up until just this week when he is doing a stretch run to the debate and the Straw poll. He is hoping what is *left* of his grassroots campaign can help him score top 3. If the Straw poll was in May he might have had a shot at a surprise finish. I don’t expect much, but whenver he speaks people like what they hear so who knows.

    Perry and Palin have supporters visiting local R committee meetings but as they do not have official campaigns they are very limited. Grass shoots of the grassroots if you know what I mean. If the Straw poll was in September or October it might be different, but that is during the season of college sports and harvest!

    1. Bachmann
    2. Pawlenty
    3. Paul
    4. Cain
    5. Romney
    6+. who cares

  • Doc Holliday

    If he gets in, he will likely already have the financial and political backing. It will be like Bush, but better.

  • acat

    The thing often missed is that Ames is primarily a fundraiser for the Iowa Republican Party.

    Candidates pay to be on the ballot and also to have a tent and table at the event, with the funds going to the Iowa GOP. (Ron Paul spent something like $30k for a prime location…)

    Voters pay for (or receive from one of the candidates) a ticket and a ballot, with the funds again going to the Iowa GOP. Note – voters don’t have to be Republicans, they can be anyone who will be 18-year-old (by Nov. 2012) and who is either an Iowa resident or a student at an Iowa college.

    This tells me that Ames is not about which candidate is best or which candidate attracts most voters, it is instead about which campaigns are spending money to try to win the Iowa caucuses later on.

    The first winner is, obviously, the Iowa Republican Party, who rake in the bucks. Because of the manipulations above, the position of the campaigns is almost – but not quite – unimportant.

    The only possible significances are if a campaign spending like a drunken sailor (Ron Paul) comes in very low, or an insurgent campaign with no money (Herman Cain) comes in very high. Otherwise, it’s a measure of relative donations to the Iowa GOP, nothing more.

    As such, Perry and Palin’s decisions to not participate – but their presence being strongly enough felt (or feared, if you prefer) by the Iowa GOP to allow write-ins on the ballot – means either or both could finish above 5th place simply by turning enough of the campaign-paid ballots. I don’t see an army of Paulistines suddenly going for Palin, but .. Ron Paul isn’t the only one paying for ballots.

    All that said, this is still a must-win for Pawlenty, a must-show (top 3 finish) for Cain and Bachmann.

    The other point to keep in mind is that Perry is running, but is not competing at Ames. If Perry’s formal announcement does happen at the Red State gathering, as many expect, the Iowa GOP will take it as a swipe at their prestige.

    Since Iowa has gotten rather self-important (with no record to back it up) in recent campaign years, Perry’s decision to take them down a peg is spot on, in my opinion. Further, if Perry finishes ahead of *anyone* at Ames – and announces at Red State – he cements his position as “the anti-Romney”, that is, the one Mitt “the inevitable” has got to start going after.

    The problem for Romney is that he’s less in line with the base than Perry; I’m not sure how, other than via proxy, Romney goes after Perry and wins. As Red State has seen, the Trans-Texas Corridor hasn’t been effective, and Gardasil has fallen rather flat. Perry needs to explain both, but .. there’s a willingness to wait for the explanation that I hadn’t expected.

    Long story short, Ames is a fundraiser that happens to produce a metric, 3 out of 5 Ames winners won Iowa, and 2 out of 5 won the nomination. So far, the only one to win Ames who won the White House was George W. Bush in 1999.

    The media likes Ames because it’s something to cover during the boring weeks of summer when Congress is idle, but .. it has no real significance.

    Mew

  • izoneguy

    In over 20 years, they have only voted for ONE Republican president.

    Perry will probably push to get rid of ethanol subsidies.

    The only reason he is going to Iowa is because the media will be there.

    He is running for President and has to defeat all the Republicans first.

    This is not tiddley winks.

  • BA Cyclone

    I replied to the OP who said Perry would do strong, or surpise “this weekend” and ranked Perry accordingly in the Straw poll.

    Whether that means anything to Perry’s campaign is a totally different discussion.

  • BA Cyclone

    I replied to the OP who said Perry would do strong, or surpise “this weekend” and ranked Perry accordingly in the Straw poll.

    Whether that means anything to Perry’s campaign is a totally different discussion.

  • snowshooze

    Paul lost his spike.
    Looking very good this morning for Perry being a very strong 2nd and having not declared as yet.
    Looks like the general opinion that he will take number one the moment he declares is spot on.

  • Scope

    The whole circus in Iowa is to fund the Iowa GOP. Not only have they not picked an R nominee in 20 years, they haven’t even given the Ames and/or caucus winner any momentum.. Yesterday I said somewhere around these parts, that once Huckabee won the caucus, he was right back to staying in motels that didn’t even provide newspapers. It gave him an inflated sense of self that caused him to stay in way too long. It’s pretty obvious that it is nothing more than a fund raising scheme, and the candidate/candidates who spend the most money in the state get the best advertising and push from the Iowa GOP. The whining head of the Iowa GOP has already talked about how impressed he has been with the Ron Paul ground game, while telling Perry the voters in the state will remember that he chose SC over Iowa. Despite the many Perry supporters in Iowa begging the Iowa GOP to include Perry on the straw poll, they flat out said no.

    OTOH, SC has been correct on voting for the nominee that wins the nod since 1980. Perry, going to SC, and making his intentions known on the same day as Ames is very smart. He has spent some time in SC already. It is a southern state well suited to his candidacy, and he knows that a win in SC is much more important than Iowa or NH.

    For all those wanting to change the primary schedule, states moving their primaries up even at the risk of fines, and many who don’t consider the ethanol state to be the pulse of the nation any longer, Perry may just show them that their is more ways than one to skin a cat. (No pun intended)

  • BA Cyclone

    I don’t believe there is anyone that believes this event is a harbinger of things to come. I think it is “a test on the road.”

    Whether it is a valid test is totally subjective to the individual campaigns and the individual year in which you are measuring.

    Personally I think the Straw poll itself matters more to the losers than it does the winners. The winner(s) get a data point in campaign validity. The loser(s) will have opportunity lost and lots of ‘splainin to do. Ultimately I think it matters individually to campaign donors and whether certain campaigns can show “signs of life” to bring in more.

    For someone like Pawlenty who brands himself as a legitimate candidtate, yet an outsider — but has invested a lot of campaign time in Iowa — it is critical that he wins or places in the Straw poll. Short of that and he will have a harder time continuing to sell himself to donors that matter for a campaign through Februrary.

    Someone like Cain who needs cash badly, but has invested a lot of time to build grassroots here and in other early states, he needs something positive badly to just keep going in a valid way.

    For the rest of the candidates it is totally subjective. I don’t think it has ever been sold as anything different than that. I don’t think it is fair either to say it isn’t important at all — it has varying levels of importance to different people.

    Obviously, it is most imortant to the Iowa GOP. :D

  • BA Cyclone

    I don’t believe there is anyone that believes this event is a harbinger of things to come. I think it is “a test on the road.”

    Whether it is a valid test is totally subjective to the individual campaigns and the individual year in which you are measuring.

    Personally I think the Straw poll itself matters more to the losers than it does the winners. The winner(s) get a data point in campaign validity. The loser(s) will have opportunity lost and lots of ‘splainin to do. Ultimately I think it matters individually to campaign donors and whether certain campaigns can show “signs of life” to bring in more.

    For someone like Pawlenty who brands himself as a legitimate candidtate, yet an outsider — but has invested a lot of campaign time in Iowa — it is critical that he wins or places in the Straw poll. Short of that and he will have a harder time continuing to sell himself to donors that matter for a campaign through Februrary.

    Someone like Cain who needs cash badly, but has invested a lot of time to build grassroots here and in other early states, he needs something positive badly to just keep going in a valid way.

    For the rest of the candidates it is totally subjective. I don’t think it has ever been sold as anything different than that. I don’t think it is fair either to say it isn’t important at all — it has varying levels of importance to different people.

    Obviously, it is most imortant to the Iowa GOP. :D

  • BA Cyclone

    Between Iowa, NH, and SC I think you get the full complement of GOP voters.

    SC in your scenario has a clear advantage of selecting, on an average year, from a winnowed field of candidates.

    Similar to winning the Ames straw poll, winning or losing in Iowa is a test on a the road. It just happens to be the first one. I don’t think Iowa has to “pick the winner” to be relevant, but in some respects it does pick losers. You can “lose” Iowa and still win the nomination, that is obvious. But you cannot lose Iowa AND the other 3, and in some cases you can’t lose Iowa and afford to be relevant in the next handful of races. “What Iowa means” is totally subjective to the nature of the field and the nature of an individual candidate in a given year.

    Further, Iowa did NOT pick John McCain in 2008. I guess I am fine with that.

    I think the advantage of the schedule as it stands is that by SC you get a pretty clear picture of what the race will be, but not many delegates have been thrown up for grabs while the geographic and political spectrum is generally representative.

    I am not sure I buy the argument that moving Iowa down the calendar and giving the “privilege” to some other state would necessarily change the criticism or the outcomes. Someone has to be first, and they get “the blame”. To each their own.

  • acat

    I think, 50 years ago, Iowa and New Hampshire and South Carolina gave a good split between midwestern populism, new england rock-ribbed conservatism, and the view from the buckle of the bible belt but .. today? Nah.

    New Hampshire has turned into a refugee camp for the peoples’ republic of Massachusetts. It’s no longer representative.

    Iowans have developed an overinflated sense of the value of their opinions, and have leveraged the political overindulgence into corn subsidies.

    South Carolina, though .. they’ve picked the last couple candidates pretty well. Maybe, in part, because they don’t have CNN at Dixville Notch or MSNBC at Ames. Of the three, South Carolina is the least measured, and therefore the most accurate.

    Perhaps it’s time to let Iowa fade back into the background a bit.

    Mew

  • BA Cyclone

    Conflating subsidies with the Iowa caucus is mild, at best. Truly it’s not an issue that I can see, other than it’s an agricultural subsidy along with all other ag subsidies that, once in place there is an instant lobby to keep it. Not much different than any other subsidy…like a federal program or bureau they are far more easy to enact than they are to eliminate.

    The subsidy isn’t even a particular benefit to farmers today. The only one that is relevant today is a *blenders* credit, and that’s not exactly impactful to Iowa directly or barely indirectly.

    Frankly I don’t think many farmers or Iowans particularly give a hoot about ethanol subsidies, other than if it goes away it should be part of a package of reductions in ALL subsidies.

    A larger, more impactful issue for Iowa would be to close the deals on the FTA with Columbia, S. Korea, etc.

    As to the political landscape, everyone has their own opinion. As I look at the 3 states in question, Iowa is kind of a purple/swing state — it generally goes to the President the last few elections. NH seems quite blue to me, even among Republicans. SC is quite red. Nevada…I don’t get frankly other than I guess it’s a swing state out West.

  • acat

    As you say, they’re not significantly different from other subsidies.

    The existence of any subsidy – without a “defense in depth” justification (see also DoD involvement in the interstate system) raises my eyebrows, and some raise my hackles, but .. to get rid of them will take someone who can go to Iowa and say “Subsidy needs to end”.

    The difference is that, because Iowa is “corn country”, and because it’s also an early primary State, until *this year*, I’ve never heard a candidate seriously proposing ending the ethanol subsidies.

    Mew

  • BA Cyclone

    I think it indicates a wider shift toward smaller government, hopefully.

    I am hoping it means today’s “populist” voter wants to hear candidates espouse less vote-buying and more ‘whatcha gonna do to get guvmint off my back!’ :)

    The alarming accumulation of debt and a stupid-bad economy (hope and change) have well prepared the fields for that angle.