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Pennsylvania is a must-win for Santorum

Demographically, Pennsylvania is a state that Romney should win.  However, it is also Santorum’s home state.  At issue will be a critical question of: will voters who ideallogically are closer to Romney vote for Romney, or will they vote Santorum as their homestate boy.  This is no small question, as it asks whether issues matter more or people.  If issues matter more, the more liberal Romney will win the state, and be better possitioned to play in 2012 against Obama.  On the other hand, if the person matters, than Santorum will win and be better possitioned against Obama.

Poll after poll shows that primary and general election voters like Rick Santorum as a person.  The same polls show they do not like or trust Romney as much.  Voter’s concerns with Santorum around the country, and in his home state are centered around the question of whether or not Santorum is too conservative.  These questions have been around since 1994.  They have lead some to really like Santorum for standing up for his values.  They have led others, including in his home state, to wish he would shut-up and talk to what voters want to hear, not so much what he believes to be true.  So it was been the case that many voters who think he is too conservative have voted for him; allowing him to win, for example, in 2000 in a state where Bush lost.  On the other hand, in 2006, when a very well liked Bob Casey ran against him, Santorum lost a landslide.  Casey shared their issues, and they liked and trusted him.

The remaining primary states are such that Santorum has a real chance to take the race to the convention if, and only if, he can win his home state.  A strong victory there would be great for him.  A lose is game-over.

For the Romney campaign, Pennsylvania is the last and only chance they have to knock Santorum out of the game and declare victory before California votes.  Even with California, it is still very possible Santorum will make it to the convention, if he wins his home state.  For this reason, Romney will have every reason to go all out against Santorum.

For the Romney Campaign, Pennsylvania is a state where voters tend to elect moderate republicans like Romney most of the time.  2010 was a singular example where the Democrats nominated someone at the far left wing of the party after they fought a brussing primary, and in a strong GOP year, Tomney won. 

A loss in PA would hurt Romney badly if it were not Santorum’s home state.  Since it it, however, Romney has a chance to play with a huge money lead, voters idealogically on his turf, and with momentum.  A win in PA would means that the Romney campaign is finally on-track to win the nomination without a convention fight, and would effectivily end the race.  PA is Romney’s 2nd chance at SC.  Just like SC, winning PA ends the race in Romney’s favor.

Of course, a PA loss still has Romney well in the lead

COMMENTS

  • Ender

    the only thing PA is a must win for Romney for is for driving an embarrassing and final stake through the delusional Santorum campaign. Romney wants to do that, and I think it’s worthwhile as there is no rational reason for Santorum to keep his campaign going even now. Delusional people must be taken out before they inflict any more stupidity on this campaign cycle.Santorum could win all the PAs and Texases he wants and he will still never be the GOP nominee.

  • exitsfunnel

    It doesn’t matter what happens in Pennsylvania. Rick Santorum has become irrelevant and nothing that happens in his home state primary is going to change that. It’s time to start focusing on the general election.

    -exits

    • garfieldjl

      While I’ll acknowledge the need to tone down the rhetoric (on all sides), Santorum supporters are correct, this really isn’t over until someone has the necessary delegates to win.

      There are enough delegates still in play and a lot can happen in April.

      The fact that Obama has picked a fight with the Supreme Court gives us some breathing room, even if they aren’t popular the Supreme Court has a serious advantage, respect. They are more respected than Obama is and so he’s picked a fight that he really can’t win.

      So we have some breathing room folks, since Obama seems obsessed with shooting himself in the foot at the moment.

      Believe it or not I think Newt is very much in this as well.

      If Santorum doesn’t win his home state, then it’s over for Santorum it would end up being down to Romney and Newt, which depending on who Santorum endorses could make things rather interesting. If Santorum does win his home state, then he’s still very much in this.

      I’m hoping Obama does enough self-inflicted damage to his re-election campaign to prevent him from being re-elected.

      • exitsfunnel

        And believe me I’m not a giant fan of Mitt Romney. Unless he is run over by a car or diagnosed with brain cancer he will be the nominee.

        -exits

        • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

          he’ll still win.

          • hls87

            even if Romney dies or has to withdraw, Santorum still won’t be the nominee. The Santorum campaign has never been anything more than an ego trip. As long as there may be one more victory speech to be made, Santorum will stay in.

  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    Every primary now is Weekend at Bernie’s for Santorum and his remaining supporters.

    At least Newt’s starting to recognize it’s over, even if he isn’t quitting.

  • quill67

    May could be very kind to Santorum.

    May 8th Indiana, North Carolina, West Virgina

    May 15th Nebraska, Oregon

    May 22 Arkansas, Kentucky

    May 29 Texas

    Santorum then needs some luck (and he might get it):

    Main Stream Media will probably bring attack on Romney during April when it looks like Romney is it.

    Buyer’s Remorse: Right or wrong people might have second thoughts abuot Romney after MSM attacks.

    Romney Gaff: Romney seems to step into these so might happen again

    Focus Message away from Social. Unite Economoic conservatives with strong message.

    All this luck is needed to win California. The reason is Santorum is seen only as the Religous Right candidate right now. If he can change that to an economic conservative who has deeply held socially conservative views, he can win.

    • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

      You’re an idiot. Santorum is wasting everybody’s time and money and is detracting from building a consensus attack strategy against Obama.

      He may squeek out a win in PA, but a month ago he was up double digits. Last week, before the real push started, he was up two. He’s a well known and not very well respected commodity in PA, and he’s ripe for a loss. Even if he does squeek out a win, it’ll be low single digits which should be a real wake up call.

      You’ve got nothing but “hope & luck”. That ain’t a plan.

  • steve962

    …at least, it’s not important for determining the outcome *this* primary election. Romney will almost certainly be the nominee no matter what happens in PA.

    However, what happens in PA for Santorum, unless he drops out of the race before the PA primary, will indeed be hugely important for his future political career. Some people are already talking about his relatively strong showing this primary season as a “vetting process” for a future presidential election. Others have talked about him as a possible VP candidate.

    If he wins by a large margin in PA, it’s a boost to his future political prospects, and gives him some clout he could wield at the convention – because if he can command the support of a large majority of Republicans in PA, he could put the state in play in the general. (I consider this highly unlikely, BTW – but I’ve underestimated the gullibility of my fellow Pennsylvanians in the past…)

    If he wins by a small margin, he and his supporters will see it as a Sign he’s meant to continue, but it won’t really change anything – Romney will still be the nominee and Santorum will be forgotten by September.

    If he loses by a small margin, a lot of people will say that it’s over for Santorum, but honestly, it’s long been over. It won’t have any significant long term impact — he’ll run again in 4 or 8 years, and people will forget why they didn’t like him the last couple times, until he opens his mouth and reminds them.

    But if he loses PA by a large margin, it could, and should, kill all his future political prospects entirely, because if he does that poorly in PA, a state which used to like him, it’ll be clear to the rest of the nation that he can’t win anything anymore, and would simply be a liability on any national ticket.

    Honestly, his best strategic move would be to drop out of the race before the PA primary, unless the polls shift drastically before then. Solely to avoid that last possibility.

  • hls87

    no matter what happens in PA and beyond. The man started the campaign as a national joke, and that’s how he’ll end it.

    • znjs

      He’s already laying the groundwork, comparing himself to Reagan in ’76. By then though we should have several actual competent candidates, and hopefully he’ll be treated like the joke he is.

      • acat

        Just like Romney had “next in line” status this time.

        This is why the veep has to be able to step up! Cheney should have retired in 2005 or 2006.

        Mew

        • hls87

          It isn’t enough to be runner up you have to be a serious candidate. He isn’t and never will be.

          • acat

            for Romney to claim next-in-line status.

            If Romney loses and there are still elections in 2016*, look for Santorum to make the claim.

            Mew

            * assumes both the Mayans and RAH got it wrong

          • hls87

            But it will be laughable. Romney barely cleared the threshold stature requirement for a serious candidate. He was the former governor of a mid-sized state and an extremely wealthy man and that was enough, just. It was enough in large part because nobody else in the field (except Pawlenty at the start and Perry at the end of the process) even came close. As a serious candidate who was in the hunt 4 years ago he lined up significant institutional support early on. That’s the next-in-line effect and it worked for Mitt.

            Santorum won’t be able to garner anything like Romney’s financial and political support. He was a fringe candidate at the start of this cycle and he’ll be even more so next time. He’s so far out in the wilderness there’s no going back.

            It would seem that even Santorum doesn’t think he has a future in politics. If he did he’d be out of the race by now. Every day he continues from here on out hurts him down the road. If he stays in it’s because he knows there is no down the road.

          • acat

            and that’d be one path out of the wilderness …

            Or he’s seeking to emulate Huckabee and go off to become a TV Star.

            Mew

          • hls87

            Romney won’t have him in the cabinet and Obama certainly won’t. Romney might appoint him to the Circuit bench, but I doubt he’d thrive on the salary or the obscurity.

  • garfieldjl

    I’m being serious here, if Romney has this in the bag, then why bother to continue to snipe at Santorum, angering Santorum supporters?

    Shouldn’t you all be trying to heal the divisions in the party, instead of deepening the divisions?

    • acat

      The only confirmed Romney supporter in this exchange I’m aware of is Ender.

      Mew

      • garfieldjl

        Not simply those that were supporters early on.

        It has been flying around on multiple threads that the primary is over, and I’m just pointing out that if it is over, what is the point in continuing to attack Santorum?

        Personally I don’t think it is over, I think anything can happen and considering the WH is in a fight with the Judiciary which is more respected than Congress and the President combined, we have some breathing space,

        • snowshooze

          Agreed.

      • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

        Legion?

    • snowshooze

      And they cannot win on flat ground.
      And Romney will not debate, because he will get his butt kicked into the middle of the the next century.
      Romney is a coward.