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	<title>Comments on: How long are we going to let the Democrats keep 60 Senate votes?</title>
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		<title>By: SusanAnne Hiller</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/civil_truth/2010/02/02/how-long-are-we-going-to-let-the-democrats-keep-60-senate-votes/#comment-529</link>
		<dc:creator>SusanAnne Hiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 10:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SusanAnne Hiller</title>
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		<dc:creator>SusanAnne Hiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 10:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you want the laws and statutes and dissection of the entire issue, here&#039;s the link abd scoll down for the articles on Brown, Kirk, and the MA laws.

Went vrtal on net and Hannity picked up the story on his radio show Monday.

http://biggovernment.com/author/sahiller/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want the laws and statutes and dissection of the entire issue, here&#8217;s the link abd scoll down for the articles on Brown, Kirk, and the MA laws.</p>
<p>Went vrtal on net and Hannity picked up the story on his radio show Monday.</p>
<p>http://biggovernment.com/author/sahiller/</p>
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		<title>By: ReaganLives</title>
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		<dc:creator>ReaganLives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 05:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;VE GOT IT !! !! ! (How&#039;s this?) 

YOU&#039;RE A REASONABLE TRUTH-TELLER AND FOR THAT YOU SHALL BE BANISHED TO A SWAMP WITH A BUNCH OF YANKEE LEFTIES UNTIL YOU REPENT!!!

(oh, wait.....)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;VE GOT IT !! !! ! (How&#8217;s this?) </p>
<p>YOU&#8217;RE A REASONABLE TRUTH-TELLER AND FOR THAT YOU SHALL BE BANISHED TO A SWAMP WITH A BUNCH OF YANKEE LEFTIES UNTIL YOU REPENT!!!</p>
<p>(oh, wait&#8230;..)</p>
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		<title>By: Swamp_Yankee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swamp_Yankee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 05:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Be quiet. Truth is not allowed. Anger, name calling, exclamation points and capital letters trump truth, reason and wisdom.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be quiet. Truth is not allowed. Anger, name calling, exclamation points and capital letters trump truth, reason and wisdom.</p>
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		<title>By: ReaganLives</title>
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		<dc:creator>ReaganLives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 04:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wasn&#039;t upset about this because on election day I was in Boston; I remember the local news talking about the fact that in MA, the election certification process typically took ten day to two weeks. The other Brown volunteers were looking into the laws about actually seating him, and one of the volunteer attorneys checked it all out. 

So, I guess it is what it is. I&#039;ve got plenty of other stuff to be angry about this week!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t upset about this because on election day I was in Boston; I remember the local news talking about the fact that in MA, the election certification process typically took ten day to two weeks. The other Brown volunteers were looking into the laws about actually seating him, and one of the volunteer attorneys checked it all out. </p>
<p>So, I guess it is what it is. I&#8217;ve got plenty of other stuff to be angry about this week!</p>
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		<title>By: Swamp_Yankee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swamp_Yankee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sometimes Gandalf, blogs are not the appropriate forum to discuss reason and the law. But your analysis has been extremely astute, In the end, Brown was seated just as quickly if the GOP decided file lawsuits, divert their message machine, and go to war over this. There was a reason none of the major conservative personalities, including conservative Senators like Jim Demint and Tom Coburn never ran with this story; because it was frivolous.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes Gandalf, blogs are not the appropriate forum to discuss reason and the law. But your analysis has been extremely astute, In the end, Brown was seated just as quickly if the GOP decided file lawsuits, divert their message machine, and go to war over this. There was a reason none of the major conservative personalities, including conservative Senators like Jim Demint and Tom Coburn never ran with this story; because it was frivolous.</p>
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		<title>By: Gandalf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gandalf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No one called foul in either of those cases, probably because the precedent had been set by both parities throughout the long history of the Senate.

I didn&#039;t look back at previous special elections before 1970 1) because I didn&#039;t have the time and 2) because I doubt Wikipedia is too accurate with the exact dates before, say, the 1970s. From my research, it appears that we Republicans simply don&#039;t have any similar cases. 

In almost every case that a new Senator was elected in a special election since 1970, with the exception of those filling an empty seat, the former seat holder has continued to hold the seat and, presumably, vote until the day the new Senator was sworn in. The only exception to this I can find is Sen. Adlai Ewing Stevenson III (D-IL) back in 1970. However, since that special election coincided with a regular election, it doesn?t seem to be a comparable situation.

What I will grant you is that Democrats have apparently been more successful at delaying the seating of Republican Senators, including Sen. Brown, while it appears new Democratic Senators winning special elections were seated fairly quickly. Of course they do this, and they?re doing this with Sen. Brown for political reasons, but it seems to be within their right to do so since they hold the office of Secretary of State of MA and the Majority in the Senate. It may be an underhanded tactic, one that Republicans haven?t had the opportunity to use since delaying the seating of Sen. Stevenson III (D-IL) back in 1970. Nevertheless, both parties have done it and it appears to be completely legal and legit.

If it was cheating, then I&#039;d gladly agree with you. As I?ve said dozens of times, I?m as disgusted as anyone that Sen. Kirk is still voting. But I just don&#039;t see any real legal argument to say that he shouldn&#039;t be given a vote up until the day that Sen. Brown is sworn in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one called foul in either of those cases, probably because the precedent had been set by both parities throughout the long history of the Senate.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t look back at previous special elections before 1970 1) because I didn&#8217;t have the time and 2) because I doubt Wikipedia is too accurate with the exact dates before, say, the 1970s. From my research, it appears that we Republicans simply don&#8217;t have any similar cases. </p>
<p>In almost every case that a new Senator was elected in a special election since 1970, with the exception of those filling an empty seat, the former seat holder has continued to hold the seat and, presumably, vote until the day the new Senator was sworn in. The only exception to this I can find is Sen. Adlai Ewing Stevenson III (D-IL) back in 1970. However, since that special election coincided with a regular election, it doesn?t seem to be a comparable situation.</p>
<p>What I will grant you is that Democrats have apparently been more successful at delaying the seating of Republican Senators, including Sen. Brown, while it appears new Democratic Senators winning special elections were seated fairly quickly. Of course they do this, and they?re doing this with Sen. Brown for political reasons, but it seems to be within their right to do so since they hold the office of Secretary of State of MA and the Majority in the Senate. It may be an underhanded tactic, one that Republicans haven?t had the opportunity to use since delaying the seating of Sen. Stevenson III (D-IL) back in 1970. Nevertheless, both parties have done it and it appears to be completely legal and legit.</p>
<p>If it was cheating, then I&#8217;d gladly agree with you. As I?ve said dozens of times, I?m as disgusted as anyone that Sen. Kirk is still voting. But I just don&#8217;t see any real legal argument to say that he shouldn&#8217;t be given a vote up until the day that Sen. Brown is sworn in.</p>
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		<title>By: Gandalf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gandalf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Constiution is fairly clear that Senate terms end 3 January 2009. Since Norm Coleman had not yet earned a new term (and sadly would not in the long-run), he was obliged to step down as of 3 January until such a time as it was proved that he had won a new term.

I don&#039;t see how that&#039;s related to a special election in the middle of February of a non-election year. It&#039;s a completely different situation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Constiution is fairly clear that Senate terms end 3 January 2009. Since Norm Coleman had not yet earned a new term (and sadly would not in the long-run), he was obliged to step down as of 3 January until such a time as it was proved that he had won a new term.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see how that&#8217;s related to a special election in the middle of February of a non-election year. It&#8217;s a completely different situation.</p>
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		<title>By: E Pluribus Unum</title>
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		<dc:creator>E Pluribus Unum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As the newsmedia would say about rising unemployment figures:

&lt;h3&gt;&quot;Enexpectedly&quot;.&lt;/h3&gt;

Cheating in former cases does not establish a defendable precedent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the newsmedia would say about rising unemployment figures:</p>
<h3>&#8220;Enexpectedly&#8221;.</h3>
<p>Cheating in former cases does not establish a defendable precedent.</p>
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		<title>By: E Pluribus Unum</title>
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		<dc:creator>E Pluribus Unum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So should RedState.

While our  front page seems to be filled with endless stories of growing prospects for November, and the current Dem implosion, the Republic is being stolen from us.

Just saying.

And saying.

And saying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So should RedState.</p>
<p>While our  front page seems to be filled with endless stories of growing prospects for November, and the current Dem implosion, the Republic is being stolen from us.</p>
<p>Just saying.</p>
<p>And saying.</p>
<p>And saying.</p>
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		<title>By: Steph C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steph C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rules change when they become inconvenient to the &quot;ruling&quot; party. 

I agree it should be that way but considering the government the way it is now, it&#039;s an exercise in futility.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rules change when they become inconvenient to the &#8220;ruling&#8221; party. </p>
<p>I agree it should be that way but considering the government the way it is now, it&#8217;s an exercise in futility.</p>
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		<title>By: pilgrim</title>
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		<dc:creator>pilgrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pilgrim</title>
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		<dc:creator>pilgrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.redstate.com/pilgrim/2010/01/29/my-take-on-lame-duck-senators-casting-votes/

Lame duck Senators should be spending their time clearing out of their office, and working with the Senator his state just voted in.  He can do what he can for his staff.  There should be no major votes taken by him.  He should be too busy getting out of Dodge to have time to read, understand, and cast roll call votes.  This issue with lame duck Senators has been around for a long time.  I think that the Senate could have a rule that would fix this problem.]]></description>
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<p>Lame duck Senators should be spending their time clearing out of their office, and working with the Senator his state just voted in.  He can do what he can for his staff.  There should be no major votes taken by him.  He should be too busy getting out of Dodge to have time to read, understand, and cast roll call votes.  This issue with lame duck Senators has been around for a long time.  I think that the Senate could have a rule that would fix this problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Gandalf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gandalf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 13:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One partisant GOP attorney does not the law make.

Precident and the law are on the Democrats&#039; side this time.

I&#039;m all for hounding out their sorry butts when they are actually breaking a law, but to pretend they are when they are cleary not is not so smart, in my opinion.

I get frustrated and angry when Democrats try to accuse us of breaking the law when we use legal and legitimate means to get our stuff through. Having Sen. Kirk vote until Sen. Brown is seated is well within the law, their rights, and precident.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One partisant GOP attorney does not the law make.</p>
<p>Precident and the law are on the Democrats&#8217; side this time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for hounding out their sorry butts when they are actually breaking a law, but to pretend they are when they are cleary not is not so smart, in my opinion.</p>
<p>I get frustrated and angry when Democrats try to accuse us of breaking the law when we use legal and legitimate means to get our stuff through. Having Sen. Kirk vote until Sen. Brown is seated is well within the law, their rights, and precident.</p>
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		<title>By: Gandalf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gandalf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 12:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Again, I hate the idea that Kirk is still voting. But it&#039;s his right.

I understand what the GOP&#039;s partisan attorneys said before the fact. That was, I think, a political strategy to make sure the Democrats didn&#039;t try to bring up healthcare again. It worked and the Republicans have let it dropped since they know that a challenge in the courts would get them laughed half-way across the country.

The Massachusetts Law that their argument is based on says that the appointed Senator will serve ?until election and qualification of the person duly elected to fill the vacancy.? Since &quot;qualification&quot; comes after &quot;election,&quot; it is clear that it means being sworn in. 

And again, Senate precident, whether we want to argue about whether it was legit or not, is there from both Republicans and Democrats... 

But let me say this: If people are serious about wanting to rectify this situation, they will make it a hill to die on AFTER Brown is seated to apply for the next time this happens, whether he or she be Republican or Democrat. As of now, all of this somewhat feigned outrage just makes me think of the Democrats whining in MA and wanting to change the rules when it suited their team.

Sorry, that&#039;s the way I see it. And I&#039;m on your team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, I hate the idea that Kirk is still voting. But it&#8217;s his right.</p>
<p>I understand what the GOP&#8217;s partisan attorneys said before the fact. That was, I think, a political strategy to make sure the Democrats didn&#8217;t try to bring up healthcare again. It worked and the Republicans have let it dropped since they know that a challenge in the courts would get them laughed half-way across the country.</p>
<p>The Massachusetts Law that their argument is based on says that the appointed Senator will serve ?until election and qualification of the person duly elected to fill the vacancy.? Since &#8220;qualification&#8221; comes after &#8220;election,&#8221; it is clear that it means being sworn in. </p>
<p>And again, Senate precident, whether we want to argue about whether it was legit or not, is there from both Republicans and Democrats&#8230; </p>
<p>But let me say this: If people are serious about wanting to rectify this situation, they will make it a hill to die on AFTER Brown is seated to apply for the next time this happens, whether he or she be Republican or Democrat. As of now, all of this somewhat feigned outrage just makes me think of the Democrats whining in MA and wanting to change the rules when it suited their team.</p>
<p>Sorry, that&#8217;s the way I see it. And I&#8217;m on your team.</p>
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		<title>By: bk</title>
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		<dc:creator>bk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 12:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since the GOP make this big claim about a constitutional challenge on leaving Kirk seated and then did absolutely diddly about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the GOP make this big claim about a constitutional challenge on leaving Kirk seated and then did absolutely diddly about it.</p>
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		<title>By: JadedByPolitics</title>
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		<dc:creator>JadedByPolitics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 12:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[said they WOULD BE ILLEGAL after that Tuesday election &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/barnes-massachusetts-senatorial-race-and-obamacare&quot;&gt;So lets STOP IT NOW&lt;/a&gt;

The time for civility has WELL PASSED it is time to get down to business and STOP those craven Democrats from continuing their ILLEGAL VOTES!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>said they WOULD BE ILLEGAL after that Tuesday election <a href="http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/barnes-massachusetts-senatorial-race-and-obamacare">So lets STOP IT NOW</a></p>
<p>The time for civility has WELL PASSED it is time to get down to business and STOP those craven Democrats from continuing their ILLEGAL VOTES!</p>
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		<title>By: Third Street</title>
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		<dc:creator>Third Street</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 11:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/barnes-massachusetts-senatorial-race-and-obamacare&quot;&gt;Because that&#039;s not what we were being told before the election.&lt;/a&gt;

And as for Jean Carnahan&#039;s seating, don&#039;t even get me started on the legality of a dead man winning a Senate race.

But this is why the Democrats walk all over us... we let them. And then, apparently, we let prior occasions on which we let them walk all over us stand as reasons why we should let them continue to do it forever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/barnes-massachusetts-senatorial-race-and-obamacare">Because that&#8217;s not what we were being told before the election.</a></p>
<p>And as for Jean Carnahan&#8217;s seating, don&#8217;t even get me started on the legality of a dead man winning a Senate race.</p>
<p>But this is why the Democrats walk all over us&#8230; we let them. And then, apparently, we let prior occasions on which we let them walk all over us stand as reasons why we should let them continue to do it forever.</p>
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		<title>By: Gandalf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gandalf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 11:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We may not like it, but there is no legal argument for why a sitting Senator can&#039;t vote. And there&#039;s no legal argument for removing Kirk from the Senate until Brown is sworn in. And there&#039;s no legal argument for saying that the Democrats delaying Brown&#039;s swearing in until 11 February is illegal.

I hate it, but it isn&#039;t illegal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We may not like it, but there is no legal argument for why a sitting Senator can&#8217;t vote. And there&#8217;s no legal argument for removing Kirk from the Senate until Brown is sworn in. And there&#8217;s no legal argument for saying that the Democrats delaying Brown&#8217;s swearing in until 11 February is illegal.</p>
<p>I hate it, but it isn&#8217;t illegal.</p>
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		<title>By: Gandalf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gandalf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 10:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Again, a quick search of past elections shows that the precedence IS there for Sen. Kirk to continue voting. 

Of the examples I listed in my post a below:

Jean Carnahan (D-MO) kept her seat until the day before Jim Talent was sworn in back in 2001.
Harlan Mathews (D-TN) kept his seat until the day before Fred Thompson was sworn in back in 1994.

As far as I can tell, those are the only two comparable situations to Scott Brown?s situation, and in both the appointed Senator kept his or her seat until the new Senator was sworn in.

There have been only a handful of special Senate elections, and most of them don?t set precedent one way or the other because there was either no appointed Senator or because the appointed Senator won the special election.

Sorry, much as I hate the fact that the Democrats still have 60 votes, it appears to be quite legitimate.

Elections have consequences. That includes past elections.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, a quick search of past elections shows that the precedence IS there for Sen. Kirk to continue voting. </p>
<p>Of the examples I listed in my post a below:</p>
<p>Jean Carnahan (D-MO) kept her seat until the day before Jim Talent was sworn in back in 2001.<br />
Harlan Mathews (D-TN) kept his seat until the day before Fred Thompson was sworn in back in 1994.</p>
<p>As far as I can tell, those are the only two comparable situations to Scott Brown?s situation, and in both the appointed Senator kept his or her seat until the new Senator was sworn in.</p>
<p>There have been only a handful of special Senate elections, and most of them don?t set precedent one way or the other because there was either no appointed Senator or because the appointed Senator won the special election.</p>
<p>Sorry, much as I hate the fact that the Democrats still have 60 votes, it appears to be quite legitimate.</p>
<p>Elections have consequences. That includes past elections.</p>
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