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START: Ratifying the end of America as a superpower

It's really not about missile defense in the end

In all the discussion focusing on how the START treaty would affect our ability to build and deploy a missile defense system, very little has been mentioned to my knowledge about the strategic implications of this treaty.

And in brief, what this treaty does is to ratify Russia’s status as a hegemonic regional power, which follows upon our previous decisions under this administration to grant similar regional dominance by China in Asia and Iran in Central Asia – in conjunction with this administration’s ceding U.S. strategic interests in South America and Central America (or even an interest in defending our border with Mexico).

Now it may be comforting to those who still view the world through a Soviet-U.S. superpower rivalry to continue that Cold War era diplomacy through another arms control treaty, but that has little to do with present reality. Instead we are signaling a retreat in the face of Russian aggressiveness rooted in a resurgent nationalism and energy sales that would seem to consign Eastern Europe (and to a lesser degree Western Europe) to regional domination by Russia.

And in so doing, we are unmistakably making another statement that we no longer wish to wear the mantle of world leadership and beacon of hope for those seeking to emulate us to form their own forms of democratic governance (following upon our passivity in the face of Iranian citizens being ruthlessly suppressed when they protested the electoral fraud in their last election and looked to us for help).

Unfortunately, the last two years have seen the Republican opposition in Congress (and predominant discussion at RedState and elsewhere in the right blogosphere) focused almost entirely on domestic economic matters. Apart from a few lonely voices such as Sen. DeMint, the Obama Adminstration has been largely given a pass on its foreign policy through an absence of any significant debate on foreign policy decisions.

In any case, what I see at stake in this treaty is an acquiescence to America relegating itself to being just another country in the world – that is, the repudiation before the world of American Exceptionalism. And having surrendered such claim will make it far more difficult if not impossible to reclaim it in the future should our country decide to change its course and once again pursue our destiny.

And this is what our senators need to hear. My regret is that it has taken perhaps too long for me to speak out.

COMMENTS

  • bobbymike

    There is no reason, let me say again no reason for this treaty.

    I had a much longer post in mind but I am so disgusted with this process I am ready to just give up. Getting my mini-house and going Galt.

    It is times like these I really believe there is no hope that Washington is unstoppable.

  • mirac777

    While I do agree with your take on Obama and Company making us a 3rd rate power, I feel you leave out a blatant part of this equation. Hillary Clinton. I find it nothing short of amazing how our Foreign policy discussions very rarely include our SOS. It seems like she is hiding in the background. Why is that? Is she supposedly irrelevant in Foreign policy? Is she being protected by the Democratic Party for a future run at POTUS? Only time will tell. I am sure Hillary had plenty to do with the negotiations on START. Why are those negotiations being kept from Congress? That is ludicrous.

    At a time when Russia is making major moves to engulf the energy industry, I agree this poses a danger to America and Europe. Money fuels the military might. China is now consuming more energy than any other nation. A China-Russia monopoly on energy has to be the strategic agenda here. Not good..At a time when we need to be developing our own natural resources to their fullest potential, Obama has us moving backwards. Being self-reliant in our energy policy as much as possible, is very important, not only to our economy, but to our National Security. Thus ANY START discussions have to include the economic impact to America in them.. A bankrupt country is at the mercy of the other world powers. Is this Obama’s agenda? Quite possibility, if you look at the whole picture.

    Keep in mind that Canada has a huge stake in America if she fails. We go down, so does Canada economically. N America could quickly become the next bastion of third-world like ghettos, if we are not careful.START has HUGE implications in this discussion. If they don’t release every single document about these negotiations, it is a disservice to America to pass START,period!

    • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil_truth

      …not individual personalities.

      China-Russia alliance per se is not so worrisome as it represents a commercial relationship, If China didn’t get oil from Russia, it would find it somewhere else and Russia would sell it somewhere else.

      However, it’s the demonstrable Russia-Iran axis that’s especially threatening as that puts Central Asia in the middle. Lots of bad stuff coming out of that outcome.

      The rest of your comment dovetails pretty well with my brief outline.

      • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

        that no treaty was required for Obama to so weaken the USA?

      • JSobieski

        commercial relationship, I would say it is per se troubling.

        From a technology perspective, the Russians and Chinese compliment each other well. The Russians have great theoretical physicists and mathematicians. The Chinese are great at copying stuff. Throw in the legacy Russian technologies from the prime of the USSR (space program, guidance systems, etc), and you have a troubling combination.

        Both are sincerely motivated to take the US down a peg whenever possible. Neither is shy about acting agressively to further its own interests. Neither gives a #@&^ about the dignity of individual human beings.

        The Russians have all sorts of resources. The Chinese need all sorts of resources. There are so many reasons for the Russians and Chinese to get a bit more cosy than we would like.

  • bobbymike

    I began to warn Redstaters about this treaty over a year ago along with Obama’s disarmament agenda in general.

    Did not get too many comments to my posts back then.

    • JadedByPolitics

      I am sure you are upset that no one took notice of your diary however the fact of the matter is the Republicans in the Senate are working with the White House to DESTROY this Country and you are perturbed that your diary wasn’t commented on.

      • bobbymike

        sometimes aren’t seen for what they are until it is too late.

        Yes there are a huge number of domestic and foreign policy issues to follow and comment on or take action on and it is more evidence that the left will work long and hard to institute their destructive programs and we better be vocal and loud from Day 1 or risk what is happening now.

        The left is good at attacking the country from so many angles it leaves things like a strategic arms treaty little room for debate or discussion.

        Just image the “sounds of crickets” if someone at a townhall meeting at the height of Obamacare brought up New Start.

        • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • pilgrim

    Alexander (R-TN)
    Brown (R-MA)
    Cochran (R-MS)
    Collins (R-ME)
    Corker (R-TN)
    Isakson (R-GA)
    Lugar (R-IN)
    Murkowski (R-AK)
    Snowe (R-ME)

    These 9 are enough to get to the 67 votes they need to ram through a treaty in this lame duck session with the 58 Ds.

  • rp_mcmurphy

    Do any of you actually have any idea what’s in the new START Treaty? I’m not trying to be tendentious, it’s just that I’ve heard a lot of vague platitudes about American exceptionalism and very few substantive objections. I guess my concern is that some conservatives are opposed to the treaty simply because Mr. Obama is for it. Mitt Romney, who I’m convinced would drop acid and march pantless in a gay pride parade in SF if he thought it would help him get elected, recently penned an editorial in opposition to the treaty. In it, Governor Romney fretted over the number of ICBMs that the Russians could potentially afix to their bomber aircraft. Now, anyone with any familiarity with the military knows that even the smallest ICBMs are much too large to be carried by existing bombers. Clearly, MItt Romney has no idea what he’s talking about. Had he negotiated the treaty, it’s likely the United States would’ve traded sub-based missile capacity for a promise by the Russians not to mount ICBMs on hovercraft, helicopters. jetpacks, and icecream trucks — not to mentioned their dreaded yak-based missiles. But I digress. I’d just like to hear some rational reasons for opposing the treaty.

    • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

      the preamble and Russian statements clearly restrict our right to pursue advances and expansion of SDI. The rest of the treaty is quite puny and irrelevant as concerns real threats to the US. Given that Obama has unilaterally restricted SDI, I don’t think the START treaty is very relevant at all.

    • JSobieski

      There are several examples of Obama policies that conservatives or at least many conservatives support, Afghanistan, extension of Bush tax rates, free trade agreement with South Korea, etc.

      Somehow Obama’s support of those policies did not trigger a reversal by conservatives. Maybe we just didn’t get the memo?

      In terms of START, my reasons for opposing are as follows:
      (1) We don’t gain anything. Russia was going to reduce is strategic nukes anyway. They simply can’t afford to replace them all, and their stockpiles are old (just as ours are)
      (2) We don’t gain anything. Russia is focused on tactical nukes because the countries it wants to push around are all within a couple of hundred miles from its borders.
      (3) We don’t gain anything. This treaty raises some issues regarding missile defense. At a minimum, if you take people at their word, Putin and Obama disagree as to the impact of the treaty on missile defense.
      WOULDN’T IT MAKE SENSE TO CLEAR THIS “MINOR DISCREPANCY” UP BEFORE SIGNING? Unless of course Obama supports the treaty just because Republicans and people who care about the country oppose it?
      (4) We don’t gain anything. When the US enters into treaties in a manner that question our dedication to our own national interests, the US comes across as weak.
      (5) We don’t gain anything. Why didn’t they push this treaty before the election? Having a Lame Duck Senate push through a treaty without meaningful committee hearings is not a serious way to conduct defense policy.
      (6) We don’t gain anything, Verification in the treaty is better than if there was no treaty, but still not as good as it could have been. What ever happened to trust by verify? Why the huge push for mediocrity?

      I would posit to you that Obama’s concerns in negotiating the treaty included a lot of domestic political concerns and involved little time contemplating a potentially mischevious Russia.

      I assume that you support START because Obama is in favor of it? I mean, why support a treaty that doesn’t benefit US security? I’d just like to hear some rational explanations as to how the treaty makes us safer

      • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
      • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

        where I can on foreign policy. And since Obama is unilaterally reducing our defenses, I could argue that it is the lesser bad result that the treaty get ratified lest Obama be weakened further abroad. But I did oppose ratification.

        • JSobieski

          I would summarize the net negative balance as follows:
          (1) Dems will use the treaty as an excuse to further reduce missile defense spending. So START does more than simply reflect what will happen—it will become a hammer for the Dems.
          (2) Serious/malevolent nations will see the treaty as ANOTHER sign that we are weak.

          I agree with you in that I don’t see START as a catastrophe so much as a symptom of a weak country going in the wrong direction. As one of the characters said in the movie “Beautiful Women” so begins the “long fade”.

          In other words, better for the Omnibus to fail and START to pass than vice versa. But if you read the book the “Lucifer Principle”, nothing going on at the moment inspires much confidence.

          • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
      • powertothepeople

        but I will add this:

        We have no business signing treaties that dictate our own defense. We are not at war with Russia so no treaty was necessary. Not too mention Russia is in no position to demand anything from us. We should have kindly told them thanks but no thanks, and let them worry about their own defense and we should have continued on worrying about ours. The whole thing was nonsense and is a pursuit by the world to achieve “peace” that will never happen in the lifetime of the world. Any peace will be a false peace.

    • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil_truth

      Strategic reasons to oppose it:

      1) As I said, it ratifies Russia as an “equal” to the U.S. which in turn reestablishes Russia as the dominant power in Eastern Europe and jointly over Central Asia, essentially sacrificing those nations to an expansionist and increasingly totalitarian Russia – as well as cement Putin’s dictatorial state as the “victory” will quash any incipient opposition.

      2) By setting a parity with Russia, it ignores consideration of North Korea, Iran, and Venezuela (by alliance with Iran) and their nuclear capacity – all of whom are our sworn enemies and allied with Russia. Thus this freezes our offensive numbers in place while our enemies in sum have no limits on their offensive nuclear numbers. This will become increasingly dangerous to our national survival as they develop and proliferate their nuclear numbers. Missile defense cannot keep up with the numbers of offensive weapons being deployed with bankrupting us further.

      In other words, it creates the Cold War strategic balance in reverse.

      3) Not to mention the energy supplies problem…for us and for Europe.

  • Ausonius

    From an Associated Press article:

    “MOSCOW (AP) ? President Dmitry Medvedev on Thursday welcomed the U.S. Senate’s decision to ratify a landmark U.S.-Russian nuclear arms control treaty, but Russian legislators said they need to study a resolution accompanying the document before following suit.”

    Of course they will follow suit! How nice of the A.P. to offer us the delusion that anything other than a rubber-stamp is coming from “Russian legislators.” :)

    By definition, anything that makes the corrupt and chauvinist Putin-Puppet regime happy must be bad for the United States.

    How stupid are those 71 senators? This is a fool’s dream of lollipops and butterflies, or a hippie’s drugged out “Peace-Love-Dope” hallucination.

    See “Why Treaties With The Russians Are Worthless”:

    http://www.redstate.com/ausonius/2010/12/05/why-treaties-with-the-russians-are-worthless/

  • bobmontgomery

    ….is Russia a power or is Russia not a power? Is Russia an adversary? Usually when two parties negotiate a treaty, they are adversaries and the stronger one gets the better deal. Is Russia an adversary or an ally? If an ally, they need to bomb Tehran. We don’t negotiate with allies for mutual reduction of weapons.
    If it cannot be demonstrated whether Russia is an ally or an adversary, then the idea of discussing a treaty is absurd. If it is assumed that Russia is neutral, then they would presumably have no interest in our missile defenses or offenses or anything else, unless they considered them a threat, which would mean they are not an ally but an adversary, which means……the whole thing is nonsense to most of us grunts out here but perfect sense for Russia to assist Obama in his legacy in return for their comeback and the fiscal conservatives to assist Obama in his legacy in return for ………….extending the tax cuts. Oh, gee, how else has his legacy been enhanced this week? DADT repeal? A tax cut, sir!; if you can keep it. We heard yesterday that the O is rethinking marriage. The man is nothing if not a legacy-building machine. More tax cuts on the way!

  • izoneguy

    Russia Puts Off Final OK of START Treaty to January

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/24/russia-puts-start-treaty-january-early-approval/#ixzz192NrRGg6

    The treaty cleared an initial hurdle through Moscow’s lower house of parliament, but a senior lawmaker said the treaty won’t get full approval until at least next month.

    Konstantin Kosachev, head of the State Duma’s foreign affairs committee, said that the treaty would need a total of three required readings before it can be fully ratified. He said full ratification could only happen next month “at the earliest.”