Promoted from the replies: “Is the mission of RS to be some kind of academic debate society . . . ?”


[This "promotion" is, of course, non-official and only meant as a humorous attempt to get visitors to Redstate to read of JSobieski's -- I mean no disrespect to the Redstate editors!)

JSobieski asked a very pertinent question regarding the mission of Redstate: "Is the mission of RS to be some kind of academic debate society or is it to mobilize activists for political combat?"

Great question. Redstate came into being way back in 2004. When Republicans controlled the House. Four years before Obama was elected president.

Here's what the Redstate "About" page says, in part, about Redstate (not even sure if there's a "mission statement" in there):

On July 11, 2004, Josh Trevino, Ben Domenech, and Mike Krempasky turned on the lights at RedState, then RedState.org.

Shortly thereafter, Erick Erickson and Clayton Wagar signed on to help out and the site took off as the singular hub of conservative grassroots collaboration on the right.

Today, RedState is the most widely read right of center blog on Capitol Hill, is the most often cited right of center blog in the media, and is widely considered one of the most influential voices of the grassroots on the right.

RedState was the first national political site to tout and endorse Marco Rubio for his Senate bid in Florida. We put Doug Hoffman on the national conservative radar in New York. Across the country we find grassroots candidates and work hard to get them elected.

At RedState, we are conservatives in primaries and Republican in general elections and we aim to win.

RedState’s day to day efforts are led by its Editor, Erick Erickson, and a talented and largely volunteer team of front page contributors. Anyone, however, can write at RedState. That makes RedState unique among right of center sites. Sign up for an account and you too can engage in the comments and post your own user diaries. The best stuff gets voted on by the community and the best of the best gets put on the front page for the world to see.

Welcome to RedState. We’re happy warriors and we’re glad to have you in the fight.

Maybe Redstate is just a debating society. This isn't meant as a criticism. As a "hub of conservative grassroots collaboration on the right," I do think it has certainly lived up to that claim. And for that I am grateful for Redstate's existence and its excellent staff.

And, it has, most definitely, found "grassroots candidates and work[ed] hard to get them elected.”

But I would like to see Redstate turn into a hub to, in JSobieski’s words, “mobilize activists for political combat.”

I’d like to hear more first-hand accounts by Redstaters describing how they helped get out the vote in their precinct. On behalf of a conservative candidate. How they got involved in local Republican Party politics to help win local elections. How they, perhaps, joined with other conservatives to stop some horrible, wrong-headed spending by their local school board. How they attended their city council meeting. How they ran for an elected position in their local Republican Party organization, or helped another Republican do so. How they took their first step into Republican Party politics by attending their local Republican Party committee meeting, and how they went about finding it and what happened at the meeting. So others might learn from their experience.

I like JSobieski’s terminology. I want more Redstaters to become political combatants. Inside the Republican Party itself. As precinct committeemen.

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Since JSobieski's post was intended to reply to me

tcgeol (Diary) Monday, November 8th at 10:16AM EDT (link)

I’ll say that part of Redstate’s purpose is indeed to operate as an academic discussion chamber. The overarching purpose is far more than that, but it has always been part of its being. The change to overt activism in that sense is fairly new. I support it, but that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t be able to discuss philosophy here. We lose an important aspect if we do.

If the final decision comes down that we should discuss only those things that pertain to current congressional action, okay and I’ll keep out of the discussions and just read. However, next time someone discusses the WoD, ending abortion, etc, I’ll expect that to be shut down quickly by commenters as irrelevant to the immediate goal.

Just your typical bitter gun- and God-clinger

Even the Left admits we’re Right

 

Some fight the good fight on the Cultural side of the war...

H (Diary) Monday, November 8th at 10:36AM EDT (link)

But recognize the need to be engaged politically. If being a PC becomes a prerequisite for posting comments, opinions, or questions to RS I doubt anything good would come of that. I’ll just write the idea off as Monday morning brain flatulence.

I am hardly advocating for a PC-code of posting

JSobieski (Diary) Monday, November 8th at 11:01AM EDT (link)

It is one thing to say “Argument X is a waste of time because its an argument we won’t win” vs “You shouldn’t say Argument X”.

At some point, each of us would respond to an argument with “thats just not realistic”. We just draw that line differently.

Did you know that China has been losing manufacturing jobs since 1995? For the specific data, see Table 1 in the following link: http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2005/07/art2full.pdf

 
 

Both nt

RoguePolitics (Diary) Monday, November 8th at 10:44AM EDT (link)

“So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don’t even know that fire is hot.” George Orwell

“Ancient Rome declined because it had a Senate, now what’s going to happen to us with both a House and a Senate?” Will Rogers

When the American spirit was in its youth, the language of America was different: Liberty, sir, was the primary object. Patrick Henry

http://theprecinctproject.wordpress.com
Because the Republican Party is NOT going to fix the Republican Party.

http://americanamendment.com/
Because Washington is NOT going to fix Washington.

 

Note the word "academic"--I also used the phrase "dorm room debate"

JSobieski (Diary) Monday, November 8th at 11:27AM EDT (link)

In college, people argue whether pure anarchy and pure communism are viable political systems. In a law school class on technological change, a student (who was not me) did a presentation on the legal implications of a tachyon phone (a phone that allowed to you call the future). Interesting topics? Maybe. Serious topics? No.

There is a difference between arguing absolute pie-in-sky how the world should be vs. things that could actually get accomplished in the course of our lifetimes. To me, that is the difference between an “academic” debating society/”dorm room debate” and arguing policy.

While I would have opposed social security at the time it was enacted on the basis of it being unconstitutional, I do classify a 2010 argument that “social security is unconstitutional” as being both pointless and actually self defeating since it just begs the MSM to put all of our candidates and elected officials on the sport with “are you going to condemn the people at RS for saying that SS should be stopped?” Such arguments will be used as weapons by our opponents.

President Bush got absolutely burned on this issue, and all he went for were 5% private accounts. SS is a delicate issue that requires a delicate touch if we want to get anything constructive/helpful done with it. Our adversaries would like nothing better than for there to be prominent voices talking about how SS in unconstitutional. Its exactly what they want, its what they want to pounce on, and its how they think they will back the house.

In summary, I think the argument that social security is unconstitutional is politically speaking irrelevant at best, and at worst, self defeating. It also serves as distraction from things we could actually get done in 2011, like repealing parts of Obamacare.

Even someone as conservative as Angle was forced to walk back her SS pronouncement for the remainder of her campaign. RS is a prominent web site, and it is for the most part, a serious place. I would suggest that we not be so eager to provide the opposition with so much ammunication when the cost/benefit analysis reveals such an illusory benefit.

In order not to fan any flames on this issue, I think I will retire from the SS is unconstitutional debate. My hope is that attention focuses to more realistic issues that nobody in the R caucus would be afraid to support.

Put another way, if there is a conservative argument that makes DeMint and Coburn run for the tall grass, its probably not an argument we need to spend a lot of time on at the moment.

Did you know that China has been losing manufacturing jobs since 1995? For the specific data, see Table 1 in the following link: http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2005/07/art2full.pdf

 

On being a 'Poll Watcher'

eastbaylarry (Diary) Monday, November 8th at 11:50AM EDT (link)

I’m new to political activity and perhaps others here at Redstate are also, so I’ll outline my experience as a first-time poll watcher this year.

In summary I will say that it was not as intimidating as I expected. I was naturally motivated to get involved to improve the candidates in my own district/precinct, but soon discovered that this part of the San Francisco east bay was too far gone blue to get anything going. I had walked a precinct weeks ago in an effort that should have required at least a hundred volunteers, but I was only one of six walking that day.
So I enlisted in a campaign for a neighboring US Congressional district where there seemed at least a chance the Republican could win. The State Assemblyman in this area was also polling reasonably well.

So, I showed up on time at the campaign headquarters and recieved lists and maps that would lead me to the polling place and the precinct I was to watch. Full instructions on what to do and all relative laws and polling place rules were provided worded in simple language that was easily understood.

So I took my list of voters to the polling place and checked the posted ‘roster’ for those that had already voted. (This polling place actually handled five precincts and it took me a few minutes to figure out which list I needed, but not a big deal)
Having crossed off the ‘voted’ people, I followed the maps to the precinct and visited each house that still showed a non-vote, leaving a door hanger for the candidate if nobody was home and urging any voters I found to be sure to vote in this very important election.

Then back to the polling place to cross off more names. (Rinse and Repeat)

Since I was only talking to Republicans the people I met and spoke too were generally supportive and most were eager to have their vote counted.

My only surprise during the whole day was the fact that the ‘rosters’ are not updated after 5:00 pm, a full three hours before the polls close.

In closing I would recomend that any conservative that can take the day off on voting day to be a poll watcher in the future. I believe my efforts resulted iin two to three votes being cast that might otherwise have been missed. Multiple that by the many thousands of precincts and you can see that this can really make a difference, especially in close races.

2+2=4 dammit!