Well . . .
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An hour after Boehner! and Blunt! were re-elected to their leadership posts and two days after Lott! returned to leadership, there have been no jumpers from the balconies at the Heritage Foundation.
I'll take it that this is a good sign and now I think I need beer for lunch.
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Even McCain endorsed Shaddeg....how the heck did B&B win?
Spitballs?!?! / Yo No Soy Marinero, Soy Capitan
As long as legislators view their elected offices as careers, we will get this stuff. They protect their own. "The People" only matter about 30 days out of every two years for Reps and 30 days out of every six years for Senators.
Since there is no way we'll ever get term limits, I would suggest that we confine Congressional sessions to 180 days in each two year period and bar elected members and staffs from setting foot in Washington if Congress is not in session. I would also recommend eliminating anything that looks like a retirement benefit for any elected representative or staff member.
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If "pro" is the opposite of "con", what is the opposite of "progress"?
Reason Magazine says it best:
http://www.reason.com/news/show/116755.html
_The bulk of the RSC’s (Republican Study Committtee) fiscally conservative agenda isn’t likely to see the light of day, even with a GOP-controlled Congress, unless one of its deficit hawks takes a place in the Republican leadership. As it stands, party leaders are happy to use the committee when the group’s activities advance their agenda and quick to ignore it, or worse, when pursuing costly legislation.
Here’s the strange thing: The RSC has more than 100 members, making it the largest coalition within the House Republican Conference. It has an ambitious and respected leader in Rep. *Mike Pence* (R-Ind.). And when Republicans recently selected a new majority leader to replace Tom DeLay, RSC stalwart John Shadegg made it a competitive three-way race, with his strongest support coming from the Internet activist community. *So how does a group holding a majority of the majority, a group claiming to stand for restrained spending, coexist with record-breaking deficits and a 45 percent increase in federal spending since 2001?*_
Th article is not all doom and gloom as it talks of evidence that true fiscal conservatives can and do win re-election.
But fact remains that Pence (and Shadegg beore him) did get the bulk of their very own RSC's votes for leadership. The status quo won AGAIN.
Insanity is defined as doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Well, for the GOP is DC, maybe it's not insanity. They seem to know exactly what their doing: avoiding the empowerment of the fiscal conservatives. Their views make for a good carrot but they seem to fear grabbing the carrot and eating it.
_Don't tread on me._
Pence did NOT get the majority of RSC votes.
_Don't tread on me._
We all know full well the Party of blue blood buisness as usual Republicans that got US humiliated in this election cycle with thier graft and total disregard for what we sent them to do will do the samething to US again.
I am trying to figure out (maybe someone could help me) why would it be a bad thing if the Conservative got together and pulled a Lieberman? They could bust off call themselves the Conservative Party making it simple for people to distingish between Repubs or Conservatives across the country. They could propose their own ideas platforms and legislature getting full credit instead of the current setup were the Conservative bring all the ideas that gets the votes but then the repubs with thier retardation destroy that credit by way of hypocracy. The conservatives would be able to put themselves in a position were they would get the benefit they bring currently to the Republican party of having the ideas without all the negatives the Republicans bring like we saw in the last election cycle. Were do you think all those protest votes and stay at home's would have voted Democrat if the Conservatives were seperate?
Of couse like Lieberman the Conservatives could chamber with Reepubs like Lieberman so their would be no ill effect. Of course some will say well a 3rd party Conservative party will just be a spoiler for the Repubs but I am thinking that looking at history especially the last election cycle the REpubs are just spoilers for the Conservative Party.
Yea I am still extremely pissed that we are not debating what to do with our super majority that we would have had if not for some old school REpubs that thought it more important to fill thier pockets rather than better the nation the people sent them to lead.
Look at the Dem Blue dogs everyone of those could have should have been Conservative Party.
What idea has the Repubs brought forward? The one that the FBI can't search a congressmans office like they can every other office in America? Or the idea that a muliti million dollar bridge to a island with a handfull of people would be a good idea?
I held my nose at the last election but after this the Repubs will have to earn my vote back I am tired of supporting a party that only plays fake lip service to other ideals I hold to heart.
Granted, they're a regional party (Conservative Party of New York, actually), but that may be more to my point: they don't have a great deal of direct political pull (much like the Libertarians, Greens, Reform, Constitution or other third party of your choice).
The short of it is that conservatives don't actually constitute a large enough group /by themselves/ to achieve political victory. The big two parties in the US are both coalitions of allied but disparate factions, none of which actually have the numbers to implement their respective platforms alone.
The conservative wing got aced out by the same leadership that gave us the minority in both houses. In this, Podhoretz is right. It was frustrating enough losing the election, now instead of cleaning house, our elected Republican representatives have decided just to move a chair or two. If the leadership wanted to assure us that they would start behaving like conservatives again, they've done a piss-poor way of showing it.
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He was Majority Leader for less than a year. Most of the problems we're complaining about were already well entrenched when Boehner assumed a leadership position.
Exactly. And it doesn't help that there was a man entrenched ABOVE him in the chain of command...
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If you're seeing shades of gray, it's because you're not looking close enough to see the black and white dots.
I can't say that I'm happy new leadership wasn't selected. However, it seems a little early to write off 2008 considering the fact that the 110th won't even convene until January. It would probably be best to wait and see their performance before taking up golfing and swearing off politics forever.
Hopefully, Boehner and Blunt will reasses the positives (not very many) and negatives (oh boy, there were some doozies) from their time in leadership in the 109th and craft a better strategy towards victory for conservatism. I doubt they want to be regulated in the minority forever, and I can imagine Captain Boehner will want to correct his navigation and steer the ship away from the iceberg. Let's see if they can do it before we board the lifeboats.
Yes, there is an iceberg out there for Republicans. And its called "comprehensive" immigration reform.
Sorry but comprehensive immigration reform will be work of Democrats since Republicans are in the minority in House and Senate. Bush will be the one blamed for comprehensive immigration reform since he will be the one who signed it into law.
The election of the same two top Republican leaders in the House is as short-sighted and indeed asinine a reaction to a devastating election defeat as has been seen in modern political history. Clearly, the Republican solons have no clue what the country wants, no clue how institutionally corrupt they look, and no clue how badly they have betrayed the rank and file of their party, not to mention how badly they have insulted the conservative movement.
Quin Hillyer
Sorry for being a broke record, but we did NOT elect the same top two Republicans. The top two in this Congress are Hastert and Boehner. For the next Congress, we've ditched our leader.
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If you're seeing shades of gray, it's because you're not looking close enough to see the black and white dots.
Pence lost 168-27 and Shadegg 137-57.
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Bipartisanship = give + take. Republicans give. Democrats take.
Conservative Ideas were picked up by the Republicans prior to 94' the Conservatives didn't replace the republicans. What I mean is the Repubs say what we want to hear but don't allow any Conservatives (not repubs who picked up conservative talking points for votes) to take power so we can get some action to back up that hollow talk.
Conservatives will never get more than hollow talk from the Repubs until they are allowed in the leadership positions. And I don't see the point in standing in a party that needs us alot more than we need them when they wont allow any real work to be done. Is it just me or does it feel like being the guy at the job who is doing all the work gettin it done and then who gets the promotion but the retard slacker cousin of the owner.
Just a really sad state of affairs in my opinion and I think the next 2yrs is going to be more of the same. One thing I think today told us is that McCain will be the Repub presidential runner.
Well, I for one am for forming a new and national Conservative Party distinct from the GOP which is comprised of nothing more than a bunch of RINOs who talk a good game when they come back to their districts but act like a bunch of self-interested, free-loading, big-spending liberal Democrats. Just tell me where the first convention will be held and I'll be there and I'll bring fellow activists who have carried more than their fair share for the ungrateful Elephant.
The only reason we lost Hastert is because the Speaker position doesn't exist for the minority party. Blunt was Whip before and is now ... Boehner was majority leader before and is now minority leader, the same thing. The Speaker is largely figurehead.
Do go on... tell us more about how the Speaker, the third-highest Constitutional office, is just a figurehead position, and how he wasn't leading our party in the House since Gingrich left.
Was Gingrich himself just a figurehead, too?
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If you're seeing shades of gray, it's because you're not looking close enough to see the black and white dots.
The job of Speaker is not a figurehead. The House is not the Senate, whatever the Speaker of the House says goes. The Speaker of the House gets to decide what bills come to the floor and which ones don't and how much time for debate and the prodecure rules. Newt Gringrich, Sam Rayburn, and Tip O'Neil ran the place with an iron fist. As for Hastert, he was low keyed and Tom DeLay did all the dirty work.
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Ate there the other night -- few steps down from Heritage. Not much of a beer drinker myself, but I'd think it's not bad there. Have the brat.