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I never cease to be amazed at the sheer stupidity of so many fellow Republicans, especially those that hold or have held office after campaigns based on conservative principles, that lack the courage of their convictions to aggressively advocate their beliefs to the unconvinced.
The disgraceful refusal of the top tier in polls of our would be champions for the 2008 GOP presidential nomination to attend a debate targeting minority issues is a case in point.
Given our party's undeserved low vote percentages from Blacks, and the supposed difficulty of getting our message out, to break thru the MSM lib-dem din, one would think that when that same MSM offers us free TV air time, specifically to let us get our message to Blacks, that we would leap at the opportunity to speak to a captive audience.
Not Giuliani, Thompson, Romney and McCain.
Three of the four leading Republican presidential candidates turned down invitations to a PBS debate this month at a historically black college in Baltimore, leading moderator Tavis Smiley on Thursday to accuse them of ignoring minority voters.
But at least some of our guys will show up:
Just five Republican candidates - half the invited field - will take part in Thursday's presidential debate in Baltimore, event organizers said yesterday.
The four leading contenders, Rudolph W. Giuliani, John McCain, Mitt Romney and Fred Thompson, have each said they will not participate in the forum focusing on issues facing minority voters. Their absence has drawn the ire of Tavis Smiley, the talk-show host who is moderating and organizing the debate at Morgan State University; he said the candidates are making a mistake in not reaching out to black voters.
A list of confirmed participants released yesterday also omits Rep. Tom Tancredo of Colorado, a staunch opponent of current immigration policy. Confirmed are Sen. Sam Brownback of Kansas, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, Alan L. Keyes of Maryland, Rep. Duncan Hunter of California and Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, organizers said.
I join President Bush, Newt Gingrich, and other prominent Republicans in strongly urging the no-shows to attend and take on the PC liberal condescension the Democrats showed when they appeared at a similar forum weeks ago.
If for no other reason, they should show up just to promise they won't do a "Joe Biden" tour of black neighborhoods purporting to teach Black men that wearing a condom is not un-manly!
And while they are there, they might even consider treating Blacks as equals; advocate policies that treat them as equals and ask them how long they are going to sit silently as White liberal Democrats treat them like children.
I'll bet some of them will enjoy the change.
I have rightly lambasted the Dem's candiadtes for refusing to debate on Fox News Channel as evidence they fear Brit Hume.
Do we fear Tavis Smiley?
Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
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Nice writeup, Mike
by bs
I also have an issue with them not showing up at forums such as the Urban League conference. Yeah, it's a hostile crowd, but it would be good training for the campaign trail.
(Oh, and you might want to fix your blockquote tag...)
...when they see me they'll say, "There goes Loren Wallace,
the greatest thing to ever climb into a race car."
is the way to win over Blacks. To contrast respect for the ability of Blacks to make it without Big daddy govt with the dems' condescention and taking of them for granted.
To challenge them to stop being victims. Quote Juan Williams, Cosby, and esp, given Jena, Jason Whitlock:
There was no “schoolyard fight” as a result of nooses being hung on a whites-only tree.
Justin Barker, the white victim, was cold-cocked from behind, knocked unconscious and stomped by six black athletes. Barker, luckily, sustained no life-threatening injuries and was released from the hospital three hours after the attack.
A black U.S. attorney, Don Washington, investigated the “Jena Six” case and concluded that the attack on Barker had absolutely nothing to do with the noose-hanging incident three months before. The nooses and two off-campus incidents were tied to Barker’s assault by people wanting to gain sympathy for the “Jena Six” in reaction to Walters’ extreme charges of attempted murder.
Much has been written about Bell’s trial, the six-person all-white jury that convicted him of aggravated battery and conspiracy to commit aggravated battery and the clueless public defender who called no witnesses and offered no defense. It is rarely mentioned that no black people responded to the jury summonses and that Bell’s public defender was black.
It’s almost never mentioned that Bell’s absentee father returned from Dallas and re-entered his son’s life only after Bell faced attempted-murder charges. At a bond hearing in August, Bell’s father and a parade of local ministers promised a judge that they would supervise Bell if he was released from prison.
Where were the promises and supervision before any of this?
It’s rarely mentioned that Bell was already on probation for assault when he was accused of participating in Barker’s attack. And it’s never mentioned that white people in the “racist” town of Jena provided Bell support and protected his football career long before Jesse, Al, Bell’s father and all the others took a sincere interest in Mychal Bell.
You won’t hear about any of that because it doesn’t fit the picture we want to paint of Jena, this case, America and ourselves
Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
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is what will win them over.
Of course, it must be defended as something very relevant to black Americans in particular, which it is.
At the same time, Republicans must be prepared to go all the way, because the media will immediately do everything they can to paint the GOP as devious racist opportunists and the blacks who listen to the GOP as Uncle Toms.
But the prevailing view - that Dems are blacks' saviors and Repubs are their persecutors - must be shown to be an INVERSION of the truth. However well-meaning the Dems have been toward blacks, their policies have been overwhelmingly detrimental to them.
Exactly - 555!
by bs
Gideon, your comment "Of course, it must be defended as something very relevant to black Americans in particular, which it is." is dead on target. This is precisely what I have been thinking all along. If we expect the black community to accept conservatism and GOP ideals, we must explain why it is relevant to them. We can't just keep framing the ideas in the same old way, because it doesn't seem to be sinking in. Part of that is because of the long-held lefty/Dem beliefs pounded in by the race pimps, but partly it's because we haven't been trying real hard to deliver the message from their perspective. Avoiding opportunities to meet them on their turf doesn't help a thing. If we get there, deliver the message, and it's still not accepted, then we try again. And again...until we get it right.
...when they see me they'll say, "There goes Loren Wallace,
the greatest thing to ever climb into a race car."
Most blacks are against same sex marriage and favor prayer in schools. See Roberts and Alito
Most blacks are pro-2nd amendment and many are in the military. Abortion has killed a high percentage of blacks.
Blacks favor school choice.
Blacks oppose open borders.
Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
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as well as perseverance. it would be a battle over a period of years, or decades.
both parties are looking for "low-hanging fruit". they don't want to engage in a protracted war for a constituency, even if it is the right thing to do and even if it will ultimately lead to substantial electoral gains.
I liked it when Bush told the NAACP to take a hike
by Neil Stevens
Organizations hostile to Republicans *ought* to be shunned until they're going to give us a fair shake.
Univision? Get lost.
PBS in conjunction with a 'historically black' college? Beat it.
If only they'd start doing the same to ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN/NYT!
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I did to, but this isn't the NAA(L)CP - nt
by gamecock
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What's the difference?
by Neil Stevens
PBS is just as hostile to us as anyone, and I don't see a 'historically black college' as being a good venue to go to.
Imagine if there were a college that was self-consciously 'historically white' and attempted to keep that culture? Would any Republican who went within 10 miles of that place not be turned radioactive in the press?
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founded in response to democrat party jim crow laws. We might point that out to them. We might also point out that their very existence proves the lie of liberals that blacks can't learn unless a white is sitting next to them. We might laud the recent SCOTUS case that struck down a Ky school district's law that sought to bus children away from their local schools in the name of that insulting liberal idea.
We might, Neil, go make our case unfiltered by the MSM. Call out the dems with quotes and their sorry record.
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*Is* this unfiltered though?
by Neil Stevens
Is a debate run and moderated by the mainstream press really bypassing the filter?
Maybe if the format were different from the usual moderator-centric thing (is it?) I could agree.
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is the increased chance that voters will hear what they say live, unprotected by the msm.
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Deeds not actions
by SteveLA
game
Deeds and actions my man, not words.
Democrats love to tell Black folk they care during lead ups to elections, then ignore them.
Republicans need deeds and actions that are apparent to the African American community , and those deeds and actions reporting are immune to the the MSM filter.
Things like:
School vouchers in inner city schools
More research dollars for Sickle Cell and Lupis.
More seats at the tables of power based on competency not on quotas.
More targeted investments in building up small businesses in the inner city.
Presidential visits to Morehouse, Southern, G rambling and other historical Black Universities.
Dragging JC Watts kicking and screaming back into a leadership role in the Bush administration.
Democrats talk the talk, but they only walk the walk during elections, then take the African American community for granted once in office, or worse offer up token jobs to minorities as window dressing.
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All Americans are living in the Reagan recovery plus 25 years and counting. All Americans, including Blacks own homes today at historic rates. All Americans have enjoyed not being attacked since 911, in large part due to policies fashioned in no small part by high level Blacks appointed by Bush and carried out by Blacks in the armed forces, FBI and CIA.
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i like the way you think, stevela. and you could add:
by gideon1789
remind black Americans how ill-served they have been by the liberal social agenda. Black Americans have very disproportionately borne the burden of abortion, illegitimacy, sexual "liberation", etc.
No preaching!
by SteveLA
gideon
No preaching, no reminding, no pleading, no trying to convert.
Let the deeds and the actions of Republicans tell the story. The MSM won't help, the Merchants of Race bating (Jessie and Al) won't acknowledge these deeds, but a generation of middle class Black Americans who understand that you get ahead by working hard, not a government handout will get it.
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the story is not coming out because so few report on it
in any case, you always have to remind constituencies why you deserve their votes. that's politicking.
HBCUs
by Adam C
Actually, HBCUs and black fraternities are probably the best place for Rs to start to win over black voters. The Howard College Republican Chapter just re-opened with assistance from the national party.
Younger blacks are more independent than the over 35 crowd. They are often more willing to hear out candidates even if they are Rs.
HBCU students are more likely to see education as an investment than other college students and many are first or second generation college goers. They are disproportionately interested in business, the private sector, and earning a living. These are, by definition, not high school dropouts.
A small group of R-leaning students could have a major effect over 5-10 years. If the message is received and appreciated by students at the HBCU and if they start a college Rs group, the internal spreading of the message could be very effective.
My only objection to the setup is the PBS / Travis Smily aspect. I think a debate hosted by Democratic strategist Juan Willimas would be a better idea.
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But NO
by SteveLA
Let's not do that outreach then, lets all blame the MSM that portrays the poor Republican party with Black people so badly....OH MY!
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Let's do direct outreach then
by Neil Stevens
Flatly, I don't trust a PBS moderator not to ask questions that amount to "What are you going to do to make the Republican Party stop hating black people?"
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say, in response to such a question:
When you stop impersonating an objective debate moderator.
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Good question
by SteveLA
Neil
Take the Jena 6 mess.
It's just that a mess. Black kids doing bad things, White kids doing bad things, Jessie and his fools showing up raising Cain. Where's the President, where's DOJ?
Smart PR aware R President would send a very visible team of DOJ lawyers in there in a monitor role to make sure that justice is served on all sides under the heading of Civil Rights. Being even more calculating, and yes perhaps a bit crass, I would make sure that the team was led by a senior level African American lawyer.
You can bet your last dollar that a D President would not sit around and watch from the sidelines, and you can bet that people of color are watching to see what a Republican led administration is going to do to insure justice is served.
Sitting on your hands is not the same as leadership.
Deeds...not words.
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A black U.S. attorney, Don Washington, investigated the “Jena Six” case and concluded that the attack on Barker had absolutely nothing to do with the noose-hanging incident three months before. The nooses and two off-campus incidents were tied to Barker’s assault by people wanting to gain sympathy for the “Jena Six” in reaction to Walters’ extreme charges of attempted murder.
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LINK to above
by gamecock
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/columnists/jason_whitlock/story/284511....
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Antoer miss then
by SteveLA
game
Then where's the famously BAD White House press office getting out the word that the President is actually doing something?
The President "owns" a Bully Pulpit, what does he have to loose by taking to it, and taking the fight to the Merchants of Racism from Chicago and NY with cold hard facts? I for one would applaud his doing so.
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He got Whitlock to write the column...nt
by gamecock
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hmm
by Doc Holliday
Of course a Democrat would be down there, the Feds would run the show. Some of us still believe in federalism. Your sig seems like a non sequitor from the post.
Labe!
Observe not run
by SteveLA
DH
There is a difference between observing and participating.
Thinking back to the confirmation hearing of Chief Justice Roberts, I think he actually used the metaphor of being the umpire, not a player. A Federalist position is not incompatible with what I or even Barry believed in.
Other events of Federal intervention in the recent past were prime examples on non Federalist behavior.
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why don't you explain to us
by Doc Holliday
what needs to be observed. A high school kid was jumped by six people who proceeded to kick his head in when he was on the ground. That IS attempted murder. Anyone who does not get this probably spent too much time watching cartoons and not enough in an emergency room. You kick a person in the head when they are on the ground, you are trying to kill him, and the result is often death or at least brain dammage.
What exactly should Bush and the Feds be doing down there? Giving speeches? Tell us so I can understand how this action would be libertarian in any way. The crimes involved were/ar state crimes.
Molon Labe!
Think real hard
by SteveLA
Being Obtuse just because you can, or do you really mean the best course of action for the President is to imitate Pontius Pilot?
Think real hard, you'll get it one day, or maybe not.
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So now the guy in jail is Jesus?
by Doc Holliday
" Being Obtuse just because you can, or do you really mean the best course of action for the President is to imitate Pontius Pilot? "
wow, that seems a bit over the top.
Molon Labe!
agreed - nt
by gamecock
Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
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"One man with courage makes a majority" - Andrew Jackson
Clearly, something bad occurred in Jena, population 2,971, an old sawmill town in LaSalle Parish that, once upon a time, was Ku Klux Klan country. And, as most white and black residents readily agree, there is no good reason for embracing what unfolded here.But what happened, exactly?
The story goes that a year ago, a black student asked at an assembly if he could sit in the shade of a live oak, which, the story goes, was labeled "the white tree" because only white students hung out there. The next day, three nooses dangled from the oak -- code for "KKK" -- the handiwork of three white students, who were suspended for three days.
Much of that is disputed. What happened next is not: Two months later, an arsonist torched a wing of Jena High School. (The case remains unsolved.) Two fights between blacks and whites roiled the town that weekend, culminating in a school-yard brawl on Dec. 4 that led the district attorney to charge the Jena 6 with attempted murder. The lethal weapon he cited to justify the charge: the boys' sneakers.
(The teenager who was beaten, Justin Barker, 17, was knocked out but walked out of a hospital after two hours of treatment for a concussion and an eye that was swollen shut. He attended a school ring ceremony later that night.)
In July, the first to be tried, Mychal Bell, was convicted after two hours of deliberations by an all-white jury on reduced charges of aggravated battery and conspiracy to commit it.
(It was widely reported that Bell, now 17, was an honor student with no prior criminal record. Although he had a high grade-point average, he was, in fact, on probation for at least two counts of battery and a count of criminal damage to property. In any event, his conviction in the beating was overturned Sept. 14 because an appeals court ruled he should not have been tried as an adult.)
There is, however, a more nuanced rendition of events -- one that can be found in court testimony, in interviews with teachers, officials and students at Jena High, and in public statements from a U.S. attorney who reviewed the case for possible federal intervention.
Consider:
• The so-called "white tree" at Jena High, often reported to be the domain of only white students, was nothing of the sort, according to teachers and school administrators; students of all races, they say, congregated under it at one time or another.
• Two nooses, not three, were found dangling from the tree. Beyond being offensive to blacks, the nooses were cut down because black and white students "were playing with them, pulling on them, jump-swinging from them, and putting their heads through them," according to a black teacher who witnessed the scene.
• There was no connection between the September noose incident and December attack, according to Donald Washington, an attorney for the U.S. Justice Department in western Louisiana, who investigated claims that these events might be race-related hate crimes.
• The three youths accused of hanging the nooses were not suspended for just three days; they were isolated at an alternative school for about a month, and then given an in-school suspension for two weeks.
• The six-member jury that convicted Bell was, indeed, all white. However, only one in 10 people in LaSalle Parish is African American, and though black residents were selected randomly by computer and summoned for jury selection, none showed up.
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Thanks M.A.K. - nt
by gamecock
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Hey ... when you're good, you're very very good GC ...
by Martin A. Knight
Think Long Term.
Can I get Witness? - Marvin Gaye - nt
by gamecock
Mike Gamecock DeVine @ The Charlotte Observer
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Is GC just running up vanity comments?
No, the ego and head can't get any bigger...
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how about a debate on white issues? no?
by streiff
a debate in front of a predominantly black audience, fine. A debate on "minority issues" with a third tier race pimp like Tavis Smiley? I just don't see what that gets us. Really.
"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition." -- Rudyard Kipling
black college students. To summarize: Blacks
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Yeah.
by Mark Kilmer
Smiley had a really good interview with Buzz Aldrin earlier this month.
have to start somewhere
by rjd27
Look, sometimes, just showing up means something. The Republican and/or Conservative message isn't going to be heard if the GOP steers clear of black institutions. And, it isn't going to change overnight, it will take years of work. But, it will never change if Republicans and Conservatives don't try. When the leading presidential candidates choose not to show up, and only the "other" candidates do, the message has been sent, no matter what gets debated, heard or filtered.
That's called a losing strategy.
You can hate and distrust PBS and Tavis Smilley, but the candidates are not there for them, they are there to present their ideas and platforms. If this is done as often as possible, the message will get through the lies and the distortions.
We have to try. We have to start somewhere.
R.J.
No, not with Mr. Smiley
by SteveMG
Tavis Smiley has, among other notable achievements, repeatedly called George Bush a "mass murderer" and has called the Republican Party "modern day klansmen". And that's just a short list of Smiley's greatest hits.
The man is a thug. Keith Olbermann is more balanced (non-emotionally).
No dice. Ditch Smiley and maybe we'll talk.
SMG
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They should have skipped that, too
by Neil Stevens
Republicans should moderate Republican primary debates.
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letting Soft ball moderate. My insistence on attending this debate is my desire to reach blacks.
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I'm glad Sam Brownback is going
by pilgrim
Not appearing is simply allowing the opposition to tell all the black people how mean and evil you are. I've seen Tavis in action, and he can do a lot less damage to a person right there beside him than to the person who is not there.
Now there's no more oak oppression,
For they passed a noble law,
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe, and saw.
Tavis Smiley? What a joke.
by Neville72
Once blacks stop being knee-jerk sycophants for the Democrat party to the tune of 90+% support then Republicans may....may pay attention to them.
Blacks represent 13%(and dropping) of the population and have the lowest voter participation of any demographic group. So why should Republican candidates worry what 90% of a very small minority thinks?
To Republicans the black vote has been unnecessary since oh....1868. It's no different now.
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A reasonable point for
by DaMav
A reasonable point for debate, but didn't the Democrat candidates just snub a debate sponsored by the Congressional Black Caucus -- because they had dared to involve Fox News?
I certainly don't want Republicans ignoring black Americans, but is there a need for s special venue directed solely at "black concerns"? Can't that be integrated into regular debates? Haven't we accused the Democrats of engaging in a "panderfest" at these debates? A better approach might be to ask why the MSM seems totally unable to find a shared platform in the regular debates for black people who are conservatives.
Perhaps the whole issue deserves thoughtful consideration. I'm not sure why it merits all the ad hominem vitriol directed at our own candidates in the original post.
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SteveLA,
The GOP presidential candidates not showing up at the Morgan State makes me look bad as I attempt to attract like minded individuals who are afraid to come out of their political shadows. I've come out my political shadow and have paid a very heavy price, which now has cost me the true love and affection of my step-father. Choosing political sides is taking a toll on my life and the least the GOP could do is debate at Morgan State in Baltimore, Maryland. I wonder what Michael Steele had to state about this GOP hypocrisy?
I've sacrificed everything including my family's affection for what? To be deeply hated by my community, my family, and the Democratic Party. which by the way I live in California...not in the OC...so you put my life together.
LBJGAL
Steele not happy with no shows
by gamecock
Also yesterday, former Lt. Gov. Michael S. Steele, the chairman of GOPAC, a Republican political action committee, said in a statement that he was "hopeful" each missing candidate would "adjust his schedule" to participate.
"African-American voters must not by taken for granted by the Democrats and can't be overlooked or written off by Republicans," Steele said.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/politics/bal-te.debate22sep22,0,...
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Any chance Steele could moderate instead? (nt)
by Neil Stevens
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excerpt:
Get real, Tavis Smiley
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Posted: September 22, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern
Tavis Smiley, black journalist and TV host, is hosting a debate, and the leading Republican candidates aren't coming.
The top four Republican candidates have announced they won't make it to his PBS-sponsored debate at Morgan State University Sept. 27.
Now Smiley is using the occasion to assert that Republicans feel it's OK to "ignore people of color" and to call out black Republicans as disingenuous in claiming that their party can really be a home for blacks.
To those black Republicans, Smiley says: "I don't wanna hear it anymore. If you want black folks to take your party seriously, then your party ought to take black folks seriously."
Look, if anyone is being disingenuous here, it is Smiley.
...
Last week, these same top four GOP candidates didn't make it to the Values Voter Debate. Twenty-five percent of the nation's voters are evangelical Christians. Do we conclude that Republicans are ignoring them?
With a little sober analysis, it's not hard to understand that, with elections now starting two years before the fact, and debate invitations from every group except the local Boy Scout and Girl Scout troops, candidates have tough decisions to make regarding the use of precious time and money.
But Smiley isn't looking for sober analysis. He's looking for a reason to nail Republicans and show blacks that they don't care about them. So, rather than taking the heat himself for a poorly conceived event, first thing on his agenda has been to make the rounds to shows like Tom Joyner's, with huge black listening audiences, to badmouth Republicans.
Any wonder Republicans might have some reservations about this guy?
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To ALL WHO READ
The GOP presidential candidates not showing up at the Morgan State makes me look bad as I attempt to attract like minded individuals who are afraid to come out of their political shadows. I've come out my political shadow and have paid a very heavy price, which now has cost me the true love and affection of my step-father. Choosing political sides is taking a toll on my life and the least the GOP could do is debate at Morgan State in Baltimore, Maryland. I wonder what Michael Steele had to state about this GOP hypocrisy?
I've sacrificed everything including my family's affection for what? To be deeply hated by my community, my family, and the Democratic Party. which by the way I live in California...not in the OC...so you put my life together...I'M BLACK FOR THE RECORD
LBJGAL
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by Doc Holliday
You are either a Republican or Democrat. If you are a Republican, then you do not need pandering to convince you. I am still suprised in this day and age we need special "black" and "hispanic" debates. When is the Oriental debate?
Republicans ARE welcoming to people of all races. It is the Democrats who pidgeon hole people into (black) (hispanic) (inner city) (gay) (transgender) (Wiccan) etc. They ONLY see differences, never common humanity. They think politics is getting as many groups of non-individuals on their side as they can.
What is black or white about lower taxes? What is black or white about national defense? What is black or white about controlling illegal immigration?
Look, I think Republicans SHOULD go to all communities to state their case. I am a true believer, I would state my beliefs in front of any minority group, because I think those beliefs will help them as well as anyone else. On the other hand, Republicans do not need to approach politics in the "skin deep" way that Democrats have and do. It is our ideas that make the difference.
Molon Labe!
Who cares about this?
by LibertyWins
Many Blacks are openly hostile to Republicans, we do not need to pander to an ungrateful voting block that fails to that they have their rights largely due to over 153 years of the blood, sweat, and tears of Republicans of all backgrounds.
Big Deal the Democrats, switched from oppressors to panderers.
That being said, we could be more aggressive in promoting a conservative agenda that includes minorities. Conservatives perceive the world through colorblind eyes. however, minorities are well aware that this is not a colorblind society. Therefore, we must work to get it to be so.
Ungrateful? Uh.... (nt)
by Neil Stevens
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Reality: Thompson/Romney Dream: Santorum/Watts.
Well
by LibertyWins
, perhaps ungrateful is a bit much to say considering that we have a tarnished reputation. I can't expect blacks to be grateful if they don't know the truth about what we did or worse they know the truth but, deny that the GOP still does stand for civil rights.
Besides the Democrats deserve all the gratitude for their 40 years as Civil Rights champions. We can just look past all the evil acts of that party.
We Republicans regardless of our tarnished reputation were and have always been the party that was founded to defend the Civil Rights of all Americans regardless of background.
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I was going to post on this too.
First it was the Values Voter Debate.
Now it's the Baltimore Debate.