On August 24th, news outlets across the country carried a story detailing my apparent desire to pursue a lawsuit challenging President Obama’s standing as an American citizen. Unsurprisingly, the story garnered quite the emotional response from those on both sides of the political aisle. While the story has been quite popular, enjoying generous coverage from several blogs and television programs including Hardball with Chris Matthews, The Rachel Maddow Show, Politico, The Huffington Post, and The Daily Kos, the story also happens to be completely false.
My purported plan to question Obama’s citizenship in court was initially reported in a story printed by the Mohave Daily News: “[Franks] did say there was a lot of conflicting evidence of Obama’s citizenship and that he was considering filing a lawsuit, the only congressman to do so.”
The word “considering” apparently caused a great deal of confusion, causing many to believe that I am presently contemplating legal action against the President of the United States to force him to prove his citizenship status and therefore his eligibility to continue serving in the office of the President.
The original misrepresentation of my remarks was an honest mistake, and when brought to the reporter’s attention, he wrote a correction story that more clearly articulates the actual facts. My actual remarks were the exact opposite of that which was blindly repeated by countless main stream news outlets, and yet the original context of my remarks was completely ignored in a bid for an easy ratings-grabbing story (indeed, Politico’s stories regarding my alleged quote were among the Top 5 most read stories on August 24th).
For those interested, here is what I actually said, which immediately led to the vicious– however false– news reports that rapidly went “viral” throughout the leftist blogosphere:
“The ironic part about this is I was one of the few Members of Congress that was willing, if I could come up with a way to prove that Barack Obama was not born in this country, I was willing to go into a lawsuit. I don’t know of any other Member of Congress who was willing to do that, because I wanted to make sure that we were protecting both the Constitution and, quite frankly, I was terrified of this guy. But I wanted to do it in a way that comported with the honest evidence that I have in front of me. And so we did all kinds of research. We found all kinds of conflicting research. And we had to say, ‘Okay, I’m going to divorce myself from politics and I’m going to look at the evidence for what it is, and see what we come up with.’ And one of the things that happened, about three days before we were going to launch a lawsuit, is that we found several different newspapers that had shown that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii two years after it became a state. Now, there was no way to have forged that…I just don’t have evidence that shows me that he was not born here. Now, I know that everybody says that they’ve got it, but I’ve never seen it.”
(The audio of the above remarks can be found HERE.)
Further, I continued: “…the fact that we found [the evidence that Pres. Obama is a natural-born, American citizen] made it impossible for me in good conscience to go into a big lawsuit.”
These comments are easily verifiable, if one merely exerts enough effort to actually listen to audio of the event. Instead, the above-mentioned media sources (among many others) seized on the opportunity to go on the attack, some of them even AFTER being told directly by my office that the purported comments were a misrepresentation of what was actually said. The story was apparently too “juicy” not to run – even knowing that it was based on a false report. The journalists who ran with it were willing to throw their journalistic integrity to the wind to pursue a sensational account that was based entirely on a one sentence summary (not even a direct quotation) of nearly ten minutes’ worth of remarks. That’s unbiased, fair, and accurate reporting for you. Way to go, MSM.
Unsurprisingly, these same journalists are not quick to apologize or print retractions. Nonetheless, in light of the information I’ve presented above, I encourage every media outlet that spread the claim that I am in the midst of pursuing a lawsuit, because I supposedly don’t believe the President was born in the United States, to have the backbone to admit their mistake.
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JadedByPolitics (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 3:52PM EST (link)it is their duty to make anyone on the RIGHT side of the divide who is not a “Maverick” and not succumbing to attacking the RIGHT to destroy you. I hope you all in Congress recognize that fact and act accordingly which is to say ignore them and trudge on. I would like you to go to all of the members of the Republican party and let them know that Americans do NOT want the government in our healthcare and stop whatever your leftist members attempt to pass.
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Thanks for setting the record straight
kowalski (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 4:15PM EST (link)Congressman Franks, thanks for setting the record straight and picking Redstate as your place to do it. Some of us expect this kind of behavior by now, particuarly because we’ve been around the blogosphere for many years, but there are a few people in Washington who are still learning the landscape. I read your original remarks and I took them to be exactly what they were, and so (I hope) would everyone here:
There just was no “there” there when it came to investigating the “birther” claims. We *knew* that because of people like you, in the first place.
Thanks again and we have your “back” on this one.
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kowalski (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 4:29PM EST (link)And in my view, Congressman Franks, Barack Obama is proving himself to be more of an alien to this country through his actions than anything that could ever be contested about a birth certificate. I’m quite sure, in fact, that people in Chicago who had anointed him as the next President were careful to investigate the provenance and legality of his birth before he ever made it to the U.S. Senate: it was largely the intellectuals in Chicago who made him what he is today. That concern was addressed very early on, and in terms of popular “chaos” and headline making, it was a red herring. It was something that should never have even attracted attention.
Obama himself, on the other hand, is proving to be more than controversial enough to make any question of his birthright seem like small potatoes.
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Thanks for coming on, Congressman Franks
E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 4:31PM EST (link)Regarding those outlets that gave your office a call, to whom your office specifically refuted the reports, yet they printed them anyway.
If you feel comfortable naming names, I feel very comfortable publicly calling the world’s attention to their bias and slovenly ethics practices.
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Thank you Rep Franks
Freedoms Truth (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 4:52PM EST (link)Thank you Rep Franks!
First, for basing your decisions on the facts, not suppositions, rumors, theories or blindly taking things at face value.
Second, for being willing to discuss this with concerned voters.
Third, for correcting the record when the media is too eager to embarrass Republicans with distortions and lies.
I too have seen the newspaper birth announcements for Barack Obama, that were in Honolulu papers in August 1961. While there is some remote and plausible scenario where he might have been born elsewhere yet get these announcements in Honolulu papers, that’s not how it works 99.99% of the time, and there is zero evidence for anything other than a birth in Honolulu. The birthers have become hermetically sealed to real evidence and facts.
I would not let ANY media source get away with this. Please DEMAND equal time to go on these shows, even the hostile ones (like Maddow) to correct the record.
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jimmuy8 (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 4:57PM EST (link)Just you wait, sad but, true.
But but but but but!
rec0n Friday, August 28th at 5:50PM EST (link)I want to see what he waxed poetic about in all his college papers, I really do…I feel, deep down in my heart, that would be really, really fun for me.
I like the Sicilian saying
SteveLA (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 7:23PM EST (link)‘La vendetta es una minestra che se mangia fredda, my friend, or Revenge is a dish best served cold.
Enjoy the cold dish soon to be ex Senator Specter.
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Thank you, Rep. Franks
Xasteius (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 7:31PM EST (link)Unfortunately.
Don’t leave the party, hijack it back!
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NBC?
hmtksteve (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 9:19PM EST (link)Congressman Franks,
Could you please follow up on this? I’ve been following this story myself and I have yet to see anyone prove the NBC issue in either direction. In fact there is a certain lawyer out there offering a $100K reward to someone who can prove Obama’s NBC status. I’d like to have that $100K so could you please provide the NBC evidence you uncovered?
Natural Born Citzen = Who your Father Was
VinceP1974 (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 9:26PM EST (link)Natural Born Citizen has everything to do with the nationality of the father and almost nothing to do with the place of one’s birth.
See this Law Review Article from the 1800s
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19071886/Are-Persons-Born-Within-the-United-States-Ipso-Facto-Citizens-Thereof-George-D-Collins
It appeals , in part, to the law of nations. The Constiution also appeals to the law of nations, meaning that phrases which have significance in the realm of international law we can be certain the framers had in mind by using such terms
IE:
Article I, Section 8
To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;
NBC vs XIV Amend Citizen
VinceP1974 (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 9:35PM EST (link)Btw: One of the reasons why the XIV Amendment does not say “Natural Born Citizen” because the definition of Natural Born Citizen wasn’t up to them to change. The Definition of NBC was one born of American citizen parents.
The citizenship granted by the XIV does not necessarily fit that definition, thus they used general term “citizen”
A Natural Born Citizen is a (partial) subset of that.
"Was" vs. "Is"
lthurwitz (Diary) Friday, August 28th at 11:40PM EST (link)Congressman,
Thanks for joining us on the pages here. It looks like the mistake was in clarity of message in the article. I agree that you were considering filing a court action, and made efforts to prepare, but in your research changed course. Had the report said “is considering” then it would have shown malice, but the “was considering”, though accurate, did not further explain you reversal.
Quite frankly, I think your honesty and diligence tells more about you than any article can. I hope you are able to tell your side of the story on an outlet that gets you wide exposure. As for the persistent “Birthers”, well, just tell them they aren’t doing us any favors.
The Rather School of Journalism is in session.
Flagstaff (Diary) Saturday, August 29th at 12:40AM EST (link)“All the news that’s too good not to print. No verification necessary.”
“The press is so powerful in its image-making role that it can make a criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”– Malcolm X, Audubon Ballroom, December 13, 1964
What good will it do anyway?
smitch61 Saturday, August 29th at 2:21AM EST (link)I hope when his term or terms are up the supreme court has actually ruled on what a natural born citizen is.. I know I would not want for example Osama Bin Ladens son from perhaps an American woman to run for president just because the woman is a US citizen. That sounds a little crazy. The birth certificate is irrelevant regardless where he was born. It is the natural born situation. Natural born is only used in reference to the president of the united states.
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Britcom (Diary) Saturday, August 29th at 6:49AM EST (link)You do yourself no favors by sitting upon the fence on the subject of presidential eligibility.
You make no friends on the left or the right by having made the point an issue that you yourself brought to the fore and then distancing yourself from it.
It matters not whether Obama himself is a natural born citizen or not. The issue at hand is do we still live by rule of law or not. If your answer is yes, then your conservative duty is to attempt to legislate a method to ensure compliance with the law. The law says a President must be eligible to hold the office. This President has skirted the law by stonewalling the question and thumbing his nose at the people and the courts have let him do it to the great frustration of the people. You as member of congress have the opportunity to pass legislation that would put a stop any brazen show of contempt for the US Constitution with respect to elegability, if not for this President, then certainly for the next. HR-1503 was written as a federal remedy for this problem. So tell us, do you support HR-1503 or no?
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'do we still live by rule of law'
SKully (Diary) Saturday, August 29th at 11:12AM EST (link)If nothing else, the ‘birther’ movement has shown me the inadequacies of how candidates for president can be placed on state ballots.
Forgetting about Obambi, the fact that 3rd-party candidates like Roger Calero can make it onto all but 9 state ballots for president is cause for concern. (Sorry – not sure how to do links.)
There is no uniform state-by-state vetting of candidates. We are a nation of laws, and we need a better way to make sure the ones in the Constitution are upheld for this critical office.
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You're going about it the wrong way.
Steph C (Diary) Saturday, August 29th at 11:38AM EST (link)At this point, there will not be enough people who really care whether he is or isn’t as far as it goes and hardly anybody believes he isn’t, including me.
However, there is payback. I remember the furor over John McCain because he was born in Panama and the hoops he had to jump through to prove he is a citizen because of it. The left did that.
You should look at this as an opportunity to show equality under the law.
Obama has spent millions to block anyone from seeing his records. Now, his personal worth isn’t so great that he can afford to do that without some deep pockets protecting him or he’s using tax payer money to do it.
Forget the birther conspiracy. Whether you do or don’t believe it’s a nonstarter in any court. If you want to spend money on stuff like that then there are other things that can be done that will resonate with the people and you might get your “truth” at the same time. As long as you keep beating the Birther drum, less and less people are going to listen to you.
We’re too busy fending off the takeover of the country while you take years and millions of dollars getting a birth certificate that more than likely will prove he is a citizen whether you like it or not.
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The eligibility issue
Britcom (Diary) Saturday, August 29th at 5:46PM EST (link)I am afraid you must be ill informed; the eligibility issue holds wide popular support. Just one relatively minor internet news site has registered nearly half a million signatures demanding action on the issue and nearly a dozen congressmen have signed on as co-sponsors of a bill (HR-1503) to use federal law to mandate that candidates for president and vice-president must submit documentary proof that supports their claim of eligibility. The issue has legs and will continue to grow as we move closer to the next election cycle.
People don’t like their Constitution trampled, nor do they like arrogant politicians who refuse to acknowledge that the law applies to them in the same way it applies the rest of us.
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Found a recent photo of you Britcom...
mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, August 29th at 5:58PM EST (link)What a pretty picture you have drawn for us...
Britcom (Diary) Saturday, August 29th at 6:19PM EST (link)Now there are some nice young men with white coats waiting for you outside mbecker908, and they have brought a special jacket for you… (The kind that ties in the back
) And they are going to take you on a trip through the country to see some very nice people in a big house.
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a "minor internet new site has registered..."
David Hinz (Diary) Saturday, August 29th at 6:09PM EST (link)registering Daisy Duck, Donald Duck and the entire offensive line of the Dallas Cowboys is relatively easy…
…heck, ACORN was able to get that entire list registered to vote in Nevada.
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Actually 10
SteveLA (Diary) Saturday, August 29th at 6:10PM EST (link)There are 10 Co sponsors for this misguided piece of legislation which is taking up time from doing real work of Congress.
One is from CA, Tom Campbell R. CA48th which is mostly deepest Red Orange County. He is also making noises about running for Governor of CA and I’m sure his support of this sort of nonsense won’t do a whole lot to attract voters.
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That would be 11 including the sponsor .nt
Britcom (Diary) Saturday, August 29th at 6:20PM EST (link)“The opposite of courage in our society is not cowardice, it is conformity.” – Rollo May
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Quite right
SteveLA (Diary) Saturday, August 29th at 6:35PM EST (link)11 CongressCritters who have nothing better to do, no time to do the real work for the American people while supporting this nonsense.
I stand corrected, your command of the English language with your assertion “nearly a dozen congressmen” is correct in a Clintonish sort of way. Thank you for that clarification.
This is still nonsense and those Republicans who have signed on to promoting this sort of nonsense are not serious people who I will support, pretty simple.
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Well, I arrived late to follow up on this
Steph C (Diary) Sunday, August 30th at 9:06AM EST (link)and I hear he is gone. Would there be a point to responding?
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Speaking of Calero
hmtksteve (Diary) Saturday, August 29th at 11:58AM EST (link)How was he removed from the ballot in some states or even denied ballot access in those states?
If the SoS in each state has no power to verify the eligibility status of a candidate for POTUS how was Calero denied ballot acces in those states?
Either eligibility is decided by the SoS in denying ballot access or it is up to Congress to ensure eligibility when the electoral votes are counted.
Congressman Franks, as a Phoenix resident
mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, August 29th at 5:56PM EST (link)please pay no attention to the idiot known here as Britcom. He is a one issue pin-head who has shown himself time and again to be an ignorant fool.
Please focus on the issues that matter, and resist the move by the other party to turn the US into the latest version of a socialist paradise. The “birth” subject (I refuse to call it an “issue”) is, at best, a distraction and we don’t need any of those.
Now you are being disrepectful.
Britcom (Diary) Saturday, August 29th at 6:25PM EST (link)“Be respectful, or be banned.” is the site policy. You are setting a bad example.
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The very fact, Britcom, that you would
mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, August 29th at 6:40PM EST (link)show your face here and push this crap – for which you’ve been roundly beaten by damn near everybody here who can think (feel free to assume that you can’t) – is offensive and about the worst example I can think of.
Go find a RonPaul™ website. You’d fit in better. They are all moonbats too.
It is so painful to watch people lash out in desperation.
Britcom (Diary) Saturday, August 29th at 7:28PM EST (link).
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Which is precisely why you are viewed here as
mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, August 29th at 7:46PM EST (link)an ignorant fool. Desperation is the only reason for the birther movement, and you are the poster troll.
Let us all remember mbecker908 in our prayers
Britcom (Diary) Sunday, August 30th at 12:29AM EST (link)that he may have God’s peace come into his heart and that the spirits of hatred and wrath will flee from his soul and give him rest.
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mbecker has no hatred and you only think so because...
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Sunday, August 30th at 12:43AM EST (link)he calls out your incredibly silly birther crap. I suggest you pray for yourself for relief from the conspiracies that rattle around in your head. You are indeed a tool.
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mbecker908 (Diary) Sunday, August 30th at 12:57AM EST (link)And for you to fall back on “spiritual” crap is just further proof of your ignorance and your irrelevance. If I was planning on “hating” somebody it certainly wouldn’t be a pathetic fool like you. You – and your birther buddies – aren’t worth the effort. My only role vis-a-vis you is to make sure that people don’t wander in here and think you represent anything like a respected opinion at Redstate.
Too late. .nt
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Ah, Christmas came early this year, I see.
janis (Diary) Sunday, August 30th at 10:34AM EST (link)Hooray, Hooray!! Our long, long website nightmare is over. The wolf in sheep’s clothing is finally gone. Good riddance to truly bad rubbish.
Ouch
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mbecker908 (Diary) Sunday, August 30th at 7:37PM EST (link)your demise, the opposite of “love” isn’t “hate”, it is what I felt for you… “indifference”.
G'bye
Neil Stevens (Diary) Sunday, August 30th at 1:48AM EST (link)I’m tired of your single issue trolling.
I’m tired of your inability to get along with others.
I’ve warned you repeatedly how to get along, what issues to avoid, but you’ve completely ignored me.
And now you’re going off on religious tangents to impugn the character of RS regulars.
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Neil Stevens (Diary) Sunday, August 30th at 1:55AM EST (link)And laying into a guest Member of Congress as you did was the last straw, pretty much.
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Rep Franks -- I find some discrepancies in your account
David Hinz (Diary) Saturday, August 29th at 6:20PM EST (link)You state that several reputable news organizations misreported your remarks. Then you said:
clearly you can see the problem. You have not mentioned any reputable news sources.
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Well, Huffpo does manage to get one of their guys
TNJim (Diary) Saturday, August 29th at 8:05PM EST (link)into a press conference every now and again to ask one of the 8-10 questions that garners a 10-12 minute rambling response.
That doesn’t make them reputable to me, but perhaps Congressman Franks has a different take on that achievement, thus calling them “journalists”. To me, that makes “press conference” an oxymoron.
His reputation's at stake here
Neil Stevens (Diary) Sunday, August 30th at 1:56AM EST (link)Categorically dismissing the sources would not help him in that.
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lthurwitz (Diary) Sunday, August 30th at 2:00PM EST (link)You now feel the icy hand of the 601 Database redigestation error. So a little more respect and you’ll get to play longer.
No he doesn't get to play anymore, period
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As HE will probably find out. :-) nt
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