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$70 Trillion in Unfunded Public Liabilites + $14.80 Trillion in National Debt + $1.4 Trillion in FY 2010 Budget Deficit = HERMAN CAIN IS A SLEAZEBALL (-Politico)

By: conservativecurmudgeon (Diary)  |  October 31st, 2011 at 12:10 AM  | 

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In the early 1990′s Herman Cain (at least according to the relatives and acquaintances of unnamed anonymous third-hand sources) said “offensive” things to a couple of women in the offices at the National Restaurant Association.

Was this before or after Barack Obama was snorting coke?

Or do we even know the timeline for the president’s drug abuse?

POLITICO, the graveyard of every two-bit Democrat Party/Leftist-Media Complex carnival barker (the same gang that found nothing of interest in Obama’s cocaine habit), is breathlessly reporting that Herman Cain said something that upset these gals –and, in the grand tradition of very recently post-Clarence Thomas America –sued the NRA, and the NRA shooed the matter away with a “five-figure” settlement. Of course, the case is sealed, and it is now oozing to the surface at a time that is most damaging to Mr. Cain.

I have to say: I am really, really relishing the proposition of how, exactly, Mr. Cain will deal with this latest swarm of gnats around his eyes.

The more the long knives from the left come out, the more I am predisposed to say to hell with this: I’m a Cain supporter. The very thought of a Cain nomination so utterly discombobulates the leftists that they are now openly telegraphing who most terrifies them as the ultimate opponent to President Obama. As I’ve said earlier: The vile, outlandish, disgusting treatment of Sarah Palin by the statist Democrats will be a Sweet Sixteenth Birthday Party compared to the bloody lashing Mr. Cain will endure.

The threat Herman Cain poses to the Democrat political coalition is existential, and there is absolutely no length they won’t go, nor any depth they won’t plumb, to molecularly destroy Herman Cain.

All he has to do is capture 15-20% of the African-American vote in a general Presidential election, and it is curtains– not only for Obama, but the entire down-ballot Democrat panoply: They lose, probably for decades. The Republican Party becomes, once again, the “Party of Lincoln”. Herman Cain is not just the “Non-Obama”, he is the “Anti-Obama”– a man of spectacular self-achievement running against an entire leftist political philosophy that feeds on the most base jealousies, fears, grievances and  resentments of a fallen humanity. Such an election becomes the ultimate Western Grudge Match between the Rousseauean Mob and the Burkean Citizens.

And the Rousseaueans have been known –from time to time– to haul out the ol’ guillotine.

So, Herman: Watch your backside.

No, Politico and every other leftist mouthpiece doesn’t have time to look into the connections between Barack Obama and the New School in Chicago, and how, exactly, Billy Ayers came to the attention of the young Chicago pol. They don’t have time to figure out what, exactly, is the total amount of money we need to fully fund all the public pensions and other long-term obligations to which we’ve been indentured. They don’t have the time to figure out what the hell we were doing selling automatic weapons to Mexican drug cartels, and toward what end. Politico can’t be bothered to figure out how we are obliged to borrow 40 cents out of every dollar we spend on a federal level, and who to hold accountable for such a travesty of the public fiduciary trust.

But they sure as hell have time to find out that some guy who headed up a trade group in the 1990′s said something offensive to his office staff. THAT we have to get to the bottom of. And quickly, too. The Democrat Party is at stake, and that means all hands on deck! You guys over at POLITICO: Grab a bucket, and start baling!

Thankfully, you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure this out.

But, as it happens, Herman Cain IS a rocket scientist.

 

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  • jackdaniels11

    the way they vetted Sarah Palin, John McCain, George W. Bush, and now Herman Cain.

    We know next to nothing about Vera Baker, the alleged former Obama mistress who is currently living on donated money somewhere in the Caribbean.

    We do know that his now-bestselling book, “Dreams of my Father” was ghostwritten by Bill Ayers, the socialist former terrorist who got Obama into office. (Bill Ayers admitted this when questioned by his students last year. Drudge covered it.)

    We know very little about Obama’s religious beliefs other than his professed Christianity. We don’t know what kind of grades he had that got his application to Columbia and Harvard accepted. We don’t know what kind of grades he had at Harvard, either.

    The media has done a great job covering up Obama’s past. It’s now clear to me why the far left wanted Obama and not Hillary. Obama has proven to be a fully manipulable tool, incapable of opposing the whims of the far left. Hillary might have mumbled some protest before acquiescing. Not Barry.

    I can only imagine what Barry’s second term might be like. Will he nationalize health care? The banks? Will he offer free college to every U.S. resident who makes less than $80k/year? (Paid for by those who have jobs or by borrowing more from the Chinese.)

    • DefendUSA

      I wonder why no one brings up Vera…and voila! The double standard just astounds me…Blackfive.net did a bit of an expose on pretty little Vera and magically, no one in the LSM even picked up on it.

  • lastgopinillinois

    to the allegations.

    He has had several high profile jobs. You are bound to have a harrassment suit or two in that position, I figure. That doesn’t mean it’s true, but then, I figure myself to be a fairly intelligent individual.

    The LSM is banking that the majority of the population will abandon any support for Herman, simply upon hearing the report of the allegations, and hope that others will become skeptical even after hearing his response.

    Now that Herman is running higher in the polls, the media ATTACKS are just beginning. Their plan is to knock him down in the polls so that Mitt Romney will climb back up in the polls. Their plan is to focus their reporting on Mitt Romney until he has been nominated, then they will easily destroy him, making way for 0bama to be re-elected.

  • lineholder

    Cain provides one of the biggest threats to liberalism and the Democratic Party that has existed during my lifetime, and I’m not a spring chicken any more, LOL.

    I made a comment about two weeks ago that I hoped the Cain campaign had invested in a bullet-proof vest, because I genuinely wouldn’t put anything past the left if this continues. That’s cynical to an extreme, I know, but it’s what I honestly think.

    When I read articles about Black Conservatives who are beginning to speak out and stand up for themselves, even within their own communities, I’m very glad to see it, for their sakes first and foremost and for the sake of our country as well.

    No, the left doesn’t want that to gain traction. They don’t want black Americans believing that they are actually capable of being independent from government. They don’t want them to succeed in this. Oh, a few here and there is no big deal, especially if they espouse liberal policies. But Black Conservatives? The left hates it. Truly and genuinely hates it.

    And of course the MSM media is only the mouthpiece of the left and it’s the only purpose these organizations serve any more in American society. That being the case, of course they’ll tear down any black Conservative who dares to challenge the system or rise above the system.

    It’s going to get ugly, far uglier than anything we’ve ever seen.

  • bluestatedevil

    I find it interesting that you are pointing the finger at Democrats and general “leftists” as having been the ones who leaked this story to Politico. In fact, I’m betting it was a Republican primary runner or a Republican establishment member who is just a little bit tired of the Cain Show. Karl Rove has made no attempt to cover up his disdain for what he sees as a hijacking of the GOP political process by a candidate who appears to be devoting virtually no time to actually winning, instead choosing to stump in states that don’t hold early primaries and refusing to hire any semblance of campaign staff.

    I think, realistically, President Obama and Democrats would relish the idea of running against Cain in the general election. Red State users should be aware that while, yes, within this bubble of conservatism there is very little disagreement on Cain’s conservative values, he is virtually unelectable in the general election because his appeal is aimed solely to the right. In the same way that Sarah Palin, who you referenced, performs extremely poorly in national polls amongst independents and moderates of either party, Cain also woulds struggle to get votes except those on the far right. You can’t win the election without the middle and Cain has made no attempts to extend an olive branch to those voters. Establishment Republicans know this, and it’s why Cain has raised virtually no money and has almost no endorsers of his candidacy.

    Cain will continue to be attacked because that’s what the US political process has become: a smear game. I make no judgement on his guilt until I see proof, and Politico has failed to provide that. However, Cain’s own answers have only added to the uncertainty as he changed his story 3 times in the space of 24 hours. His inadequate ability to deflect scrutiny, his lack of money, and his non-existent ground game will do in Cain before Democrats ever get the chance in a general election.

    • conservativecurmudgeon

      But, that’s rather like pointing out that the sky is “up” and that it is “blue”, isn’t it?

      Karl Rove is a paid political hatchet-man. His job is to dissemble and obfuscate on behalf of his clients that keep American Crossroads on retainer. These Behind the Scenes Masterminds are not, in my view, to be thought of as objective observers of the political landscape. He has experiential knowledge that is quite broad, but it is purchased at a price.

      The “Bubble” of conservatism, at least during, say, the two massive Reagan landslides, is large indeed– it seems more like an “atmosphere” to me. Do not (mis)underestimate the size of this bubble. When there is a candidate that voters sense is authentic and passionate about his belief in conservatism, it appeals to folks all across the spectrum, without regard to what the professional customers’ men say.

      In fact, an argument can be made that the lack of resonance within the majority of the GOP vis-a-vis Governor Romney (for example) is that he ISN’T viewed as authentic or passionate.

      We don’t need anyone to appeal to the “middle” outside the bubble. The bubble already includes them. Just look at the Macomb County, Michigan, election results in the 20 years from 1980-2000 for proof of this. In popular (and misappropriate) terms, they were the “Reagan Democrats”. Actually, they were “conservative” democrats, and they still (very much) exist, as do “conservative” independents.

      Olive Branches elude to some sort of violent war going on requiring one: Passionate, articulate, authentic conservatism appeals to most Americans, and it in no way confrontational in a manner that requires “olive branches”, and to make the assertion rather puts up my antennae about your understanding of modern American Movement conservatism.

      And finally, as a fellow that’s been involved (to a very limited degree) from the insurance end with such nuisance suits against a municipality, I can also tell you that, when parties to such a suit put a settlement under seal, only the opposing counsels and the plaintiff are typically privy to the terms of the settlement, and the alleged wrong-doer isn’t. And, anonymity is usually requested from the plaintiff by virtue of their desire to remain free of the stain of accusation if they are re-entering the employment market. Employers are typically not in a rush to hire the suit-happy. Cain obviously didn’t know the specifics of the settlement, or even the allegations because he likely really didn’t know, and couldn’t know, if the NRA’s insurance coverage was going to kick in.

      As I said, I don’t know if I’m a Cain man yet, but, this sure is telling me who these people fear the most. For a while it was Michele Bachmann’s headaches; then, it was Rick Perry’s “rock” problem. Now this.

      Like I say, it ain’t rocket science. And there are liberal statists in the Republican party too, don’t forget…

      • bluestatedevil

        Politico reported on what was leaked to them by an anonymous informant. The organization itself is not a source, but rather a distributor of information. Semantics, but important to differentiate nonetheless.

        Also, I was not referring to conservatism as a bubble. I was referring to the Red State site as a bubble of conservatism. Semantics again, but again an important distinction to be made.

        The Politico article in question was not editorialized and reported only verified information (that accusations were made and a settlement reached). Cain has since conceded this to be true. To say Politico is a leftist organization is a rather broad stroke and, thus, I reject such a statement to be as obvious as the “sky being blue.” In fact, I’ve read numerous indictments of both Democrats and Republicans on the site. Not to mention they provided Cain 10 days to respond to the accusations before publication out of a desire to give him a fair opportunity to tell his side of the story. Cain declined. A leftist outlet would have given no such quarter to an “enemy” on the right. Just because a news organization is not conservative that does not mean it is necessarily liberal.

        The use of “olive branch” is extremely appropriate in describing the travails of modern-day conservatives precisely because many modern-day conservatives believe that their values are under attack within the Republican party and are being replaced by moderate views. In fact, conservatives routinely label moderate Republicans as being RINO’s because they lack the conservative ideals the party was founded on. Calls to purge those in the middle from the ranks of the Republican party reached new heights in 2010 and that very battle is evident now in the struggle of conservatives to find a candidate who is ideologically aligned with them, but who is also electable on the national stage.

        Why else would Mitt Romney, the John Kerry of the Republican party, be stuck at the mid-twenties in polling? Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry both led Mitt Romney only to plunge downward in polls for being viewed as unelectable. Herman Cain may suffer a similar fate despite being the new standard bearer for conservative ideals. Republican voters must decide whether they are willing to compromise their values for a nationally vetted candidate such as Mitt Romney or roll the dice with a true conservative and hope the rest of the nation is willing to accept the philosophy in its most purebred form.

        • Flagstaff

          It was presented in a way that the following may be true:

          The Politico article in question was not editorialized and reported only verified information (that accusations were made and a settlement reached).

          Yet, it is still a politically motivated smear, and here’s why–

          It couldn’t be refuted with a simple statement. It can’t even be explained with a simple statement. It is a PR Tar Baby (and I know that term would not offend Herman Cain); any attempt to respond to it simply makes it stick to Cain even stronger. Just consider the nature of the story.

          It “reports” that Cain was accused of something. Not that he did anything, but that he was accused, and it doesn’t give any real details about what the accusations were.

          It doesn’t name any names, so there is no accuser other LSM players can go to confirm the story or get any details. Where do they turn? To Herman Cain, of course. What do they ask? “Is the story true?” of course, and his answer (perhaps too slow in coming) was, “I was accused, that is true, but the accusations were false.”

          Follow-up questions wanted more details, few of which were forthcoming from Cain because he said he didn’t really know the details himself, having turned the whole business over to his HR department and the National Restaurant Association counsel. They investigated, found nothing to substantiate the claims, then settled with the accusers to make them go away in silence. That response sounds to any reporter like a dodge, and they press for more, in essence asking him to provide the rope for them to hang him with. So far, he’s resisted, but the next move by the press might be to go to the NRA to try to get the sealed records opened up, even though closing the records was part of the settlement agreed to by the parties involved (reportedly).

          What does this remind you of? Why the Obama Senatorial campaign in 2006. Obama managed to get a judge to unseal his opponent’s divorce records before the election, blowing the guy out of the water even though the divorce had nothing to do with anything other than a child-custody dispute. One might guess that Obama had something to do with this, but it could be that it is somebody else trying the same tactics. Also, the timing is wrong for this to be an Obama move.

          Furthermore, the accusers apparently agreed to not go public with their claims (over ten years ago), for which consideration they were paid, how much we don’t know. Yet the Politico now has the information but can’t confirm it without violating the terms of the earlier settlement.

          For now, Cain is being criticized for not being “pro-active” in refuting the claims, but that’s simply O’Reilly, et al, playing Monday Morning Quarterback. As we know, anything a public figure does can be criticized by the onlookers, no matter what it is. I think he could have been more articulate (like Obama) in his statements, but they don’t sound dishonest to me.

          The story amounts to “Cain accused of beating dog. Dog refuses to confirm or deny.” Followed by, “Is that true, Mr.Cain?”

          • The_Gadfly

            because as Mark Levin speculated the day the story was breaking, and has been confirmed since, the settlement contained a confidentiality clause which was supposed to prevent both sides from talking about it, even to the point of not admitting a settlement existed. As Mr. Levin pointed out, Politico either knew or should have known, that the agreement existed and that therefore Mr. Cain couldn’t legally respond to the charges.

            I’d probably have tried a different approach to answering those questions than he did, but I don’t know that I would have fared any better. Being legally required to tell bald-faced lies put just about any non-politician in a bad spot.

          • DefendUSA

            Notice that there has been no attempt at covering it up, and still the woman refuses to come forward. Perhaps we can speculate that she got a settlement and then got more money to at least admit it to try and smear Cain regardless of who is behind it. If it was settled, as Cain himself said, then it should be a non-issue because the guilt was admitted. Period.

            That is just my two.

          • bluestatedevil

            Once again, there is a very important distinction that must be made here: Politico reported the story, it did not solicit it.

            I have a journalism background so I have very strong convictions in always separating the factual reporting, which is not politically motivated, and the act of exposing a story, which may or may not be politically motivated. The source who gave the story to Politico was almost certainly doing so out of political motivation. Politico reporting the information they were given, after first verifying it, is NOT an act of political gamesmanship. It is freedom of the press, which is a fundamental and necessary check on the state and anyone involved in it.

            Now, one thing I will say is that the use of anonymous sources is dubious at best. It is true that in some cases identities must be protected (e.g. in cases involving child victims), but Politico’s consistent refusal to say who they were tipped off by is certainly not journalistic best practices (it now appears from one of the alleged victim’s lawyers that is was a member or former member of the Restaurant Association). This suggests to me that Politico’s source was only willing to speak on the condition of anonymity. Given the magnitude of the story, Politico made a business decision to accept those conditions and publish (after first verifying the account; this must never be forgotten). It is very likely that any other news outlet would have made the same decision based on how huge this story has turned out to be.

            I agree with you Flagstaff that Cain’s answer was too slow in coming and not articulated well enough. However, I disagree that the press was seeking to give Cain the opportunity to damage himself. They asked questions, he answered them. The answers were contradictory and so more questions were asked.

            Finally, I am sure that there will be a push to have the sealed records opened up to the public. It appears now that the alleged victim of the sexual assault is attempting to have the gag order lifted so she can express her side of the story. If Cain did nothing wrong then he should not fear this, he should embrace it as an opportunity to prove his own claims of innocence.

            More information is dangerous in politics, but essential to democracy. We must be objectively informed about our candidates if we are to make up our own minds in whether or not to support them.

          • Flagstaff

            If Cain did nothing wrong then he should not fear this, he should embrace it as an opportunity to prove his own claims of innocence.

            This can only happen if both sides are equally free to express themselves. Don’t forget that the entire story, so far, is that Cain was once accused of something, something of which we have only an extremely vague general description, “sexual harassment,” and of which Cain says there was no “there” there. Also, no matter how this is handled, the accused always is placed in a position of weakness.

            The accusers have several avenues of recourse. They can abrogate their agreement of silence and open themselves up to suit for return of their settlement proceeds, which seems to be what they should do if they believe they’re doing a public service by exposing Cain as a sexual predator.

            They can get permission from the other party (the NRA, apparently) to tell their story, in which case the other party can get its own concessions from them to release all the records and transcripts. They might follow
            either of these two paths if they believe there is a big payoff from somebody waiting for them down the road.

            Or they can go to court to force the NRA to release them from their agreement in the “public interest” without any reciprocating concessions on their part. If they follow this route, you can be assured there is political backing of some kind already in place for them.

            Here are some questions I haven’t seen asked: Are these two accusers acting in concert? How well did they know each other? Are they in collusion? Was this a single instance with a single accusation by two complainants, or multiple cases? Did they have the same lawyer?–only one lawyer has crawled out of the woodwork.

            If the Politico is so pure, why haven’t they answered or even asked those questions?

            Sorry, but this is the third time in my memory when the “impartial” press has managed the news about alleged or imagined sexual incidents to damage a Republican candidate or help a Democrat, and that isn’t even counting the peccadilloes of Teddy Kennedy that were ignored. Until that changes for more than one or two cases I will continue to be skeptical of the press in general and the MSM in particular.

          • Flagstaff

            And the biggest unanswered question, which the Politico seems to think is unimportant, is “What exactly is Cain accused of doing?”

            Until they know the answer to that question, this isn’t really a story, which is precisely why I say Politico is also political.

    • The_Gadfly

      I want bright colors and bold contrasts. Because I’m a conservative? Sure, but more importantly, because it worked the last time we were on the brink of national collapse. And I’m betting there are still enough people alive who remember that to put another such artist in the White House. One other thing, Romney is definitely NOT such an artist.

  • The_Gadfly

    One of the reasons I liked Mr. Cain before he started taking gratuitous swipes at Mr. Perry is that as a successful self-made conservative he has the potential to permanently break the last vestiges of racism in our country: the 90% black vote for Dems. I think once you break that, you have forever released the Dems from the death grip of radical Progressivism/Communism/Fascism.

    And yes, this story is almost enough for me to go back to full support for Mr. Cain.

  • keysconservative

    I would like to see Herman Cain switch political parties and primary Obama as a Democrat.