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I Reckon I’m Reckoning, and I Need Some RedState Input

I have noticed a broad and deep knowledge on the part of many RedStaters about the individual candidates in the “Newt-Michele-Rick-Mitt-Ron-Herman-Jon & Gary Show”. Sometimes, the Diary Entries run from the completely banal, and are scarcely more than Drudge Report serigraphs. Oftentimes, however, there are wonderfully written entries about little-known policy statements, or inside anecdotes, or apocryphal little-known tid-bits about the candidates that I did not know, and I have found them  quite helpful in sizing up the men and woman who hope to take over the reigns in January, 2013.

For example, it is through RedState that I learned Rick Perry only recently had back surgery, and has been muscling through the rigors of a campaign in spite of it. I first read about the true narrative of the Newt Gingrich divorce-on-a-death-bed from a diary way back in June, I think. It is on these pages that I first became aware of, and knowledgeable about, Herman Cain. RedState, in this sense, is a very valuable and though-provoking  resource.

I think I may be settling into the Newt Camp, and I need some input.

I’d been fairly smitten with Michele Bachmann, dating back to her vigorous and robust battle against Obamacare. At a time when most Republicans were willing to sit down, shut up, and resign themselves to being some sort of downtrodden regional political party, Michele Bachmann was a voice in the conservative wilderness. She was a fighter, and — at the time– all the conservative fighters appeared to be women. I’ve not heard a single policy statement of hers that does not comport with my own.

To my knowledge, Bachmann has never been a supporter of gigantic federal responses to invented climate-change hysteria. She is stridently pro-life and pro-traditional family. She was against the Troubled Asset Relief Program, and I remember her sounding the warning siren about the blank check we eventually gave to Hank Paulson. I found her articulate, passionate and her background as a tax litigator and small business owner gave her a deep well of real-life experience. And, as a consistent winner in a congressional district not wholly given to electing thoroughgoing conservatives, she seemed like a good bet against Barack Obama.

I think this all –pretty much– remains true today.

I’ve tempered my support of Bachmann, though, with knowledge that this would be her first major-league executive gig. Not that I think she would not be up to the task, but, with so little time remaining to fix this nation, we will have to hit the ground running. I’m not sanguine of the depth of the well Bachmann will have from which to draw to find exceptionally skilled folks to fill so many crucial posts. Reagan, for example, had an entire stable of Californians on hand, ready to move. When Barack Obama is packed off to Illinois again, we need a “nation in exile” ready to plunge into the gap, and that means a broad and deep depth of knowledge and experience.

So, I think I might rather see Bachmann as the next Speaker of the House of Representatives. Wouldn’t that be a wondrous thing?

But, as I say, I need input.

I think I am on verge here, seven weeks out from the actual commencement of the winnowing, of supporting Newt Gingrich for the Republican Nomination for President.

I’ve been a Gingrich fan since he was elected to follow Dick Cheney into the Minority Whip position in 1989. Most observers thought he was too activist a conservative for the job, but, through hard campaigning, he won the post. The article he wrote for Reader’s Digest in 1994 to explain the Contract with America was brilliant in both its content and its staccato  prose. He is the only national figure on the stage today that has made meaningful, lasting reform in our federal system when congress overhauled Welfare in 1995.

The fact is, Newt Gingrich’s bona fides as a genuine leader of the Conservative Vanguard for the past thirty years cannot be questioned.

He has taken the slings and arrows. He has been tempered by the fire of battle. He know what it means to be flayed alive by the monsters in the popular media and culture. Through it all, he remains rock-steady and congenial. He seems approachable, and dignified. And the depth of his experience cannot be gainsaid.

But, I can still be persuaded. And I would appreciate any feedback, about any announced GOP candidate that y’all think might be helpful and germane.

If this is an “open thread”, then so be it. I’m not talking, though, about the bumper-stickers and slogans: I’m talking about the substance, about fact, logic and reason.

What are your thoughts? I genuinely, sincerely, want to know…

 

 

 

 

COMMENTS

  • andystone

    is to try and get a sense of proportion. Out of all the effort the candidate has put in through the years, how much has resulted into genuine conservative accomplishments?

    Looking at things this way, two candidates are immediately disqualified. Ron Paul’s legislative accomplishments are nonexistent (thankfully, for the better part). Same for Bachmann; I’ve found Pawlenty’s swan song criticism of her quite accurate. She may say all the right things, but when push came to shove she was ineffective in both passing and opposing legislation. I see no use for a President who may growl but lacks punch.

    There are also two candidates whose much-touted mistakes almost disappear in this light.Perry’s support of reduced tuition for illegal alien’s children cost how much of the Texas budget – maybe 0.1%? I’ll take the candidate who is an accomplished conservative for the other 99.9% of the time, thank you. Same for e.g. Gingrich’s endorsement of Scozzafava – considering the thousands of genuine conservative candidates he has endorsed, supported and trained through the decades, he was bound sooner or later to have a bad apple as well.

    The point is, anyone who went out there and successfully put conservative principles into practice must have also made some mistakes: the only way to never go wrong is to never try. But we do want the people who have tried and were only effective 99% of the time, and not the people with no record of conservative accomplishment. This election is way too important to risk it on the chance that someone who says all the right things, but was little tested, will indeed hit the magical 100%.

  • Justin Spagnolo (standardcandle)

    Read my latest diary to answer your question:

    “But, I can still be persuaded. And I would appreciate any feedback, about any announced GOP candidate that y

    • conservativecurmudgeon

      I will give you a full report later…

      Thanks for taking this in the spirit in which it is intended.

  • valrobex

    I too, have concluded that the Newtmeister is the way to go.

    You’ve summarized Newt’s many strengths. His accomplishments are truly impressive. Gingrich has probably done more for conservatives than anyone, with the notable exception of Reagan.

    We keep hearing of Newt’s “baggage” but to tell the truth it’s getting boring. I’m close to Gingrich’s age and there are things in my past that I too, have asked God to forgive. And let

    • andystone

      is his lack of vision. He’s a competent manager, but not quite the person who shines a beacon for others to follow. Best case scenario, he will be kept in line by a conservative Congress and will put in a solid, if lackluster, performance. Worst case scenario, the Democrats somehow win the 2014 House elections and he has another set of sudden and life-changing revelations.

  • lastgopinillinois

    when Michelle Bachman and Steve King both raced to the floor of the house each with their own repeal 0bamacare bill. BTW, King has been an unrelenting stalwart for repeal of 0bamacare every day since it was forced down our throats. Many nights, he is the last man standing on the floor of the House. I can’t miss even one of his speeches. He is conservative to the bone.
    I agree that Bachman would serve better by remaining in congress and continue the fight for conservative values. She doesn’t have a chance of being nominated in 2012.

    Newt has a lot of people worried, and I think it is mostly due to his populist strategy. Its hard to tell if he really believes in some of the things he says to gain support from moderates, or is he really willing to compromise, resulting in watered down conservatism or even outright socialism?
    I believe his TV ad sitting on the couch with pelosi in support of green energy was actually just a plug to get moderates to read his website at the time (I think it was called “American solutions.com”).
    Calling Paul Ryans Medicare fix “right-wing social engineering” had me turned off to him for a long time.
    I think you would notice if you read his website Newt.org and there are also a few things in his new 21st century Contract with America that will lead you to believe that he may not be the small federal govt guy after all. But I do like a lot of the ideas. He has me confused. If you look at his past record with regard to the UN, WTO and other international agencies, you might be more worried. But I know, today he talks about defunding the UN. What are you supposed to believe?
    One more thing to think about. If Newt is nominated, wont the MSM dig up his past and use it against him the same way they plan to destroy Romney by using Romneycare against him?
    I dont want another 4 more years of 0bama.

  • cheetah2

    is that all the dirty laundry gets aired now so if he is nominated we don’t have major problems later.

    I am a Perry supporter, but at this point, Romney is my second choice.

    Both Gingrich and Romney are flip floppers and not reliably conservative. If it must be between those two, Romney would be the more sensible choice because his personal life is clean as a whistle, just as Perry’s is. I also believe he has a more stable personality.

    I see a lot of people going gaga over the idea of Gingrich debating Obama. That is a pretty silly reason to choose him. Many other factors are important to look at, and a merely respectable debate performance will be plenty good enough.

    • windwaker24

      except for the part about Romney. He is not all that stable, in my opinion. There is a story out there that he put his dog on the roof of his car while traveling. Who does that? If this story is true, this is the trait of a sick man!

      As for Newt, I don’t know what the GOP is thinking. Obama is gearing up to run against Congress, and they think it’s a great idea to nominate the guy was forced to resign as Speaker due to his poor leadership and ethics problems. I don’t see Newt winning in the general, and it will have nothing to do with his personal baggage. People are mad at Obama, but they are PISSED at Congress and their antics! Newt is the poster child of those antics!

      Another reason I hope it’s not Newt or Romney are their support for mandatory insurance. Here is the video of Newt supporting the idea:

      http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com/2011/11/17/may-15-2011-newt-gingrich-supports-individual-mandate-would-force-all-americans-to-have-insurance/

      Obama and the Democrats need to wallow in that alone. A ruling from SCOTUS is coming down in June 2012, and if they find it unconstitutional, I want Obama to feel the sting by himself. If Newt or Romney is the nominee, Obama can point the finger and use either one of them as a crutch.

      • cheetah2

        But apparently no harm was done by it. I forgive him for that. There is no pattern of such behavior that I know of.

    • romansdaughter

      It looks like Newt Has so much dirty laundry that I can’t see how a conservative can support him. Besides I kind of am turned off by Newt he seems rather full of himself.

      • bzip

        Well I don’t understand how conservatives don’t see the flip-flopping of Newt. He is as bad as Romney is, changing positions on global warming to the individual mandate.

        This is shocking and I hadn’t realized it was out there but…
        Gingrich: Focus On My 1993 Mandate Support Is

        • westcoastpatriette

          It is the classic way the bureaucrats justify socialism–attacking people who choose not to buy health insurance as if they are thieves and “not paying their fair share.” That reasoning is infuriating to me and fails to get to the root of the problem but, rather, blames us for the mess they have made. If they weren’t so busy mandating that states treat anyone including illegal aliens who show up at the ER’s whether they are insured or not, then the morons like Newt, Pelosi, Romney and Obama would not feel like we “owe” them to pay for the mess.

          That is hardly the answer I want to hear from a so-called “conservative.”

          • westcoastpatriette

            he reminds me of that old adage: “If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with BS.”

            He dances around issues and rewords things to make it sound like he is so smart and has great answers, but in reality he doesn’t. Or his answers just rearrange the chairs rather than remove them. Not sure how he gets away with fooling so many. I would never vote for him in the primary, but of course would vote for him if he wins the nomination.

        • gracie

          I gotta hand it to you, you do your research like few people on here.

          This is downright scary, that so many people think Newt is so conservative.
          Thanks so much for your hard work! More ammunition to send out to Newt supporters courtesy of bzip!

        • andystone

          There’s a world of a difference between getting fined if you don’t purchase a product and getting a tax credit specifically for buying it:

          http://www.newt.org/solutions/healthcare

          • Wayne

            It may not just be that Perry is the right man at the right time with Newt at his side to move America back to its rightful place in history and the world.

            Unless of course the American people are satisfied with mediocrity. I for one am not.

          • paco12348

            I’ve read all the baggage I can find on Newt and frankly, I don’t care. I do know he loves America, is now a faithful Christian, loves his family and wants a better America for his Grandchildren. If God can forgive him then I’m in good company.
            One of you mentioned communication skills and Perry. That is his great drawback. I think he could do a great job but America will need rallying to do the hard things we need to do once Obama is out of office. I think Newt fits that bill. I’ve always believed when times are at their worst God sends someone to lead the way. No one is perfect. Newt has lived a turbulent life but I think he’s the only one on the stage with the experience and knowledge to lead us from this desert of Obama’s creation. We are a seriously divided people and it will take a good communicator to provide the true hope and change we need.
            I was turned off Bachmann when, at a Tea Party event hosted by Hannity he turned to Palin and Bachmann and said “what about a Palin/Bachmann ticket for President?” Sarah turned to Bachmann who refused to meet her eyes for long minutes. I knew then Bachmann wanted to run for President. She may be conservative but is no leader.
            All of the candidates have wonderful assets and wouldn’t it be great if the one getting the nod could find a place for most of them in the administration!
            I’d like to see a Gingrich/Cain ticket.
            I’ve never been for Romney but enjoyed his discussion with Hannity last night. He came across more passionate about his beliefs and the problems we face than he’s portrayed before. Trust is a factor, just as I wouldn’t trust Huntsman as far as I could throw him.
            I truly believe Gingrich is the only one to lead us out of this morass Obama has mired us in and it will be one of the greatest challenges we have faced since the Rev. War. Gingrich loves a challenge. Let elect him and put his big brain to work for America.

          • tnguy

            I don’t share that sentiment. Neither would a lot of other conservatives and republicans if they were paying attention.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi6n_-wB154

            And a man who has been repeatedly unfaithful to his wives simply can’t be trusted with the highest office we have. Newt – like Romney – is just telling everyone what they want to hear.

  • onemovoter

    until after the first of the year. Each candidate that is ‘not-Romney’ has been going through a vetting of sorts from all sides. It sucks I know, but it’s needed so people know how each candidate reacts when negatives are thrown out there. Obama and crew will be doing much worse later on.

    Give it a month and you’ll see Newt going down in the polls as well. What most people don’t see is that most of the negative stuff is coming out from those supporting the Romney camp. He can’t afford consolidation on the conservative side or he’ll lose… again.

    Most people really aren’t settled on their choice of candidate and won’t be until right before their primary. I have actually settled on someone after doing a lot of digging on my top 4. I looked for a particular style of leadership in the candidates and found it in one.

    I was in the military and learned what good leadership traits are and how they lead to success or failure. To be President, requires not just smarts, but a core belief system to draw from. They also have to have the political savvy of knowing how to work both legislative and executive sides of things.

    To me this means a governor is best suited. That is why House members have never been elected, and only a few times have Senators been elected. Also being from a large state helps. I don’t call Mass. a large state. By now you probably guess that my pick is Rick Perry, and you’d be right.

    I’ll be posting a diary I’m working on, of behind the scenes stories of Rick Perry that few know but showed me what I needed to know about the man. Some of the stories have already been posted here, so Perry supporters probably already know them, but this will be for everyone else that doesn’t know.

    So like I said, just hold off on deciding for awhile, trust me. It won’t hurt to do so.

  • Tbone

    You folks really need to ask yourself, “Who do I know that is 70-74 that I would really trust to run my life let alone my Country?”

    I know lots of people in that age range and some are fat, have myriad health issues, out of shape, set in their ways and exhibit diminishing mental acuity.

    Look at Newt. He is obese. Has he exhibited a vigorous campaign style? No. How is the fat old man going to hold up out on the campaign trail despite what his intellect can do?

    Nope, we need to elect an 8 year guy and Newt just isn’t it.

    • Common_Cents

      So do you have Gingrich’s medical records? You should post them.

      and I’m sure you were consistent in your age assumptions you bashed Reagan for being nearly 70 when he was elected too, eh? So much for those old senile untrustworthy Presidents.

      • Tbone

        Sorry, I hadn’t noticed.

        Newt is too old and fat as a town dog.

        • Common_Cents

          Keep up the good work, your intelligent posts are really converting tons of people.

          You are the one that said 70 is too old and I reminded you Reagan was 70.

          Tell me where I said Newt was the next Reagan?

          • Tbone

            As for “converting people”, to what? Reality?

            Do you really think Newt thought he had a chance to win when he entered the race. Do you? Can you be that stupid? Well, based on your past work, I guess, yes.

          • Common_Cents

            You come and crap on discussions, offering nothing but immature drivel.

            then I ask you to back up your drivel, and now you resort to calling me names?

            why so insecure? Do you feel better about yourself now?

          • Tbone

            Paste it and put it in quotes. If you can’t, apologize for lying.

          • Common_Cents

            Are you saying your commentary is respectful?

          • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

            when he decided to enter the race. Newt thinks a lot of himself and does have a history of achievement.

            Its best not to overcook t-bones?

          • Tbone

            that the less literate seem to stumble over.

            I think Newt got in for ego stroking. He is too smart to think he could actually pull off a national campaign. I think that is why his team quit him early on. They figured out he was just exercising his vocal cords to sell more books.

            Unfortunately, too many people have started to take him as a serious candidate because he is the smartest guy in the room. But, we all know that the press would have a field day with the old geezer and his merry band of wife stories.

          • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

            nt

          • Tbone

            Show. me. where. I. called. you. a. name. Where? Well, where?

            That’s all. If you can’t, you lied and falsely accused me. If you don’t want to apologize, I guess I am am not surprised.

          • Common_Cents

            Go ahead and keep digging Tbone with your clintonesque definition of what “is” is, game. Calling people stupid.

            Keep it up, you are winning respect here with your mature, respectful dialog.

          • Tbone

            Not man enough to admit it.

            You are sooo easy.

          • Common_Cents

            You initially implied that Gingrich isn’t physically fit enough for presidency, and that he is too old.

            So you must have opposed Reagan’s presidency on that basis.

            You use the words fat and old.

            What proof have you offered to back up your statements? You should list them here or apologize to RS for being disrespectful.

            Then you go on calling me stupid and imply others are stupid for supporting gingrich, who is a top tier candidate at the moment.

            You offer no facts, nothing to back up your assertions, then go into some silly third grade word game about not calling someone a name.

            Again, where is your evidence that gingrich is not physically capable and that the age of 70 is too old for the office, the same age one of our greatest Presidents, Reagan was.

            You also were disingenuous claiming I compared Gingrich with Reagan, when only pointing out age similarity.

            I believe you owe RS an apology for being disrespectful and disingenuous in your comments.

            Or just keep playing your game and continue to look petty and immature.

          • Tbone
          • Common_Cents

            You still haven’t offered any proof that gingrich isn’t physically able.

            You contradict yourself with no explanation on saying 70 is too old in Gingrich’s case, but you wouldn’t say that about Reagan.

            You started out with this, not anyone else.

            Are you a moderator telling me to shoo?

            Sorry, no sale. It’s telling of your arrogance that you try to win some silly battle and tell others what to do.

            But, here’s what you can do: you can avoid reading my posts/comments and you have a choice to quit responding.

          • Tbone

            Let’s go back up-thread to your first post, the one titled:

            “Wow, what a substantive post that adds value to RS”

            That post is nothing more than a personal attack on me because you thought that perhaps this time you could attack me and not end up looking like a fool yet again. Oh, well.

            You then continued to attack me rather than address any issue raised.

            Of course you appear stupid when you do that. Why don’t you quit stalking me trying to pick a fight. You are not up to it. Not in the past, not this time, not ever. Shoo.

          • Common_Cents

            You can’t back up your statement about age and health so you go personal and evade the question.

            keep it up. people are reading

          • aesthete

            Good job, Tbone.

          • Tbone

            like watching a 6 foot guy playing forward. A lot of jumpin’ up and down for nothin’.

          • Common_Cents

            You are really adding a lot of value to RS.

          • gekster

            It takes two for the mature argument to keep going.
            You have handidly strung it along.

            And to you both,
            If your dumb enough to argue with an idiot,
            Be smart enough to know when to stop.

            (goes along with the digging holes thing)

            That’s all I’m going to say as an outside observer. ;)

          • Tbone

            or “your”.

            Yep, read what you wrote, you stepped in it. ;-)

          • gekster

            I’m glad someone sees me for the idiot I am. :)

            (question, where was the ‘your’ supposed to go)

          • Tbone

            A “you’re” would have come in handy however.

          • gekster

            Was it ‘your’ or ‘you’re’.

          • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil truth

            (And making sure he isn’t already seeing someone else.) That advice goes regarding any candidate.

            Newt has been somewhat volatile of late regarding policy positions, which means you will want to track his record. Also, being out of office, he hasn’t had to go “on the record” very much – and when he has, he’s put his foot in his mouth, most recently regarding Ryan’s budget plan and global warming.

            But overall, Newt has over the years exhibited a disturbing (IMO) level of instincts favoring government action that overrides the private sector. When push comes to shove, I don’t see a strong enough commitment to limited government to give me confidence he can resist the siren calls of the left and media favor.

            I also do think for the older voters who saw him in action in 1994 and following, he has a serious uphill battle that Perry and Cain do not share. (A problem that Santorum would also face if he were a serious competitor, though for different reaons.)

            I also think debate skills are overrated as qualifications for President, but I really need to write a diary to expound further on that.

            But again, letting the “vetting” cycle work out at least its first turn would be prudential.

          • conservativecurmudgeon

            I mean, sure: I’d enjoy, say, getting a beer with Gingrich, or play a round of golf, or what have you. But DATE him? Yeesh.

            ..but, I get your point. Good advice. I’ll take it up with Corporate.

          • Tbone

            “If your dumb enough ”

            If you are dumb….

            If you’re dumb…

          • gekster

            It could have gone thee ways.

          • Wayne

            nt

          • reddog53

            I don’t pay a lot of attention to sports,so this whole “he saved the Olympics” thing has me baffled. The event occurred in the USA with huge corporate backing just after 9/11….so he was joined by legions who did not want the games to fail, regardless of who was in charge. Apart from the usual early missteps from the local Olympic committee that get fixed when the date gets closer by the professionals brought in, what exactly do we give credit to Mitt for?

            If he gets credit for being tough, autocratic and fixing things by himself, is this really the toolset we want for someone who needs to work with Congress and 50 Governors??

          • Tbone

            I always try to bring a little sunshine into the lives of those less fortunate and less gifted. My reward is the admiration in their eyes or, like here, just a simple sentence of gratitude.

            Thanks, CC.

          • Scope

            here from what I can teel, and I admit I haven’t read all your comments, is that you put a very high value on Gingrich’s ability to take it to the leftist media. I wasn’t aware that the President’s role was “taking it to the media.” If that is your criteria, wouldn’t Gingrich serve very well as the next WH Press Secretary?

            Think back to the debates without reading any transcripts of those debates. What is the first thing that comes to the minds of many. It would most definately be his willingness to go after the moderators as posing “gotcha questions” or trying to incite feuds between the candidates on the stage, right? Again, no cheating in looking at the transcripts, what exactly has Gingrich said in the debates that gives you a warm and comfortable feeling about Gingrich that he would be a disciplined and conservative stalwart?

            I haven’t been aware that presidents were to be the voice against the majority of the leftists media in the country when they sit in the Oval Office. They have much more important roles, duties, decisions, policy pushes, and propriety to uphold as the leader of this nation than merely “taking it to the leftist media.”

            If the media is your major concern, why not promote policies where more Republican billionares, or groups willing to pool their money would take over more of the airwaves. Right about now, for me, the conservative radio talk show hosts have not cut it by half.

          • Scope

            Hope I spelled his name correctly. He said that the problem with the Republicans reporting news, or whatever on our behalf is that they are reporting the news long after it has already been reported by the leftist sites. They don’t do investigative journalism, they follow the lead from the leftists. Who on the right has been a groundbreaker for the right? Not. The. First. Person. They. Are. Nothing. More. Than. Pundits.

          • Common_Cents

            I look at candidate viability, ability to learn from mistakes, level of conservatism, policy etc..

            In addition, electability has to be considered. I weigh debates as high as part of being able to communicate effectively to get elected in the first place, to get the chance to get people on your side/agenda once in office.

            If you have a better mouse trap, the world will not beat a path to your door, you gotta go out and sell it.

            As far as Gingrich willing to take on media, that is a very narrow view, but important. However, If you scan RS entries and comments, a huge number of them are about media bias. Doing nothing about it is like bailing out a boat forever but never trying to plug the leak. GOP leadership has to develop a strategy here in dealing with hostile media.

            Love Perry’s accomplishments but he has to prove to voters mostly who are relatively new to him, (like the rest of the country) that he is electable. Like it or not, communication is critical. I present you exhibit A: George Bush, who’s poor communication (among other things) hurt himself and conservatism/Republican brand.

            If I were able to appoint a President, it might very well be Perry, but reality is there are elections.

            The debate between the two in my mind as well as others boils down to how important is electability vs. the best record.

            I bet we can even do it respectfully!

        • conservativecurmudgeon

          a legitimate contender if he lost sixty pounds?

          I really am curious about this, because I do think — to a degree– that his weight gain over the last number of years is something that might speak to his personal discipline, but I don’t see it at all as a deal-breaker.

          I do have a concern about his health, but, I’ve not seen anything (such as his medical records) that give substance to this concern beyond my own observations.

          I had an Aunt Magdaline that lived to be 91, and was 40-60 pounds overweight her whole life, and was sharp and ascerbic the whole time. But, she wasn’t diabetic, hypertensive, or any of that. She was just, er, “fat”. I have no idea about the state of Newt’s overall health.

          • Tbone

            Of course not.

            If Newt lost weight and was 10 years younger and a conservative, I would favor him.

            The guy is too old. How many guys do you know who are 70+ and you feel are as good as they were when they were 60? None.

          • mom2oneson

            Lots of people gain weight as they age and do it while they eat much healthier than they did at 22 when they were thin and fit. Many women have trouble with weight after the first baby and many men have trouble after 50 or so. It’s not personal discipline!!! :)

          • Tbone

            or Christie, no

    • http://theheartlander.wordpress.com/ heartlander

      There are several 70+ guys in my own personal acquaintance who would be fine Presidents of the United States. The one who tops my list is overweight, like Newt, but — also like Newt — has more energy, ideas, creativity and resilience than most 30-year-olds.

      As for his ability to weather 8 years, consider that Pope Benedict XVI, one of the sharpest knives in the drawer — and who continues to write books and travel the world — did not even become pope until a couple weeks shy of his 78th birthday. (He’s 84 now.)

      Churchill lived to be 90 years old despite rich food, huge liquor intake, and constant cigars. And it was a vigorous 90, too — writing, painting, traveling, etc.

  • Common_Cents

  • johnconradarens

    I’ve found his response about getting the advice of experts, and surrounding himself with only the best people a bit off-putting, here in the days of the amateurish Mark Block.

    Herman Cain is, I believe, a thoroughly decent man, and would, when the chips were down, be a good president. But, I’m not sure that the presidency is an entry-level position.

    The one thing I have to say about Newt: Didn’t his Republican Congress in 1994 defund the Congressional Black Caucus– and, if it did, why is there still a Congressional Black Caucus? Are they self-funded now, or is all back on the books? How permanent were all the advances of the Contract With America? Just askin’

  • Wayne

    it doesn’t matter what Mitt did! Because he should not be the next Republican nominee, period! With the likes of Perry and Newt in the race, there is no reason to consider him at all. He is and will alway remain the least candidate to be considered. He represents big government and big business corny capitalism that is at the root of the problem in the first place. Everything he says is designed to make you think he is not of that elk, but he is and once one has done their research, it should not be necessary to retrace their steps, but to move on and forget he exists.

    We need someone that will stand for Constitutional conservative governance. Perry is that man and Newt will be a good lieutenant at his side guiding him through the maze of Washington politics. I would not want Newt to be leading the way, because of his age and history.

    • conservativecurmudgeon

      Perry might very well be a fine candidate and President, but, as of Sunday afternoon, November 20th, 2011–

      I have serious doubts about his ability to lead and persuade. As I’ve said elsewhere, Governor Perry’s entire milieu, for the entire length of his administration, (save a six-month stint in late 2000 after George Bush left the governorship), he’s dealt only with Republican lead-Houses and Senates– and that only of part-time legislators that earn $7,500 a year.

      That’s County Commission status here in Michigan. And thus far, at least, his rhetorical and leadership skills sure show it. I fear he may be eaten alive in the Washington Shark Tank, and he’d fall back on tired old liberal tropes: “If you don’t support (insert policy), you don’t have a heart”.

      I absolutely love his plan for overhauling government and the tax code. It is specific, it is substantive, it is ground-breaking, it is courageous. But, I have serious doubts if he can pull it off, based on what I have seen as a complete lack of articulate persuasion. Darn it, part of being a strong leader is being able to get people to gather to your flag who may not be automatically predisposed to do so. It requires passion, vision, strength, ideas, and the ability to put words to it all. And Perry (thus far) has not shown it at all.

      If he does, then he’s my guy, I think. But, it’s a long, long way to Tipperary, and Governor Perry has a lot of provin’ to do, in my my estimation.

      Help!.