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  • concap

    I place the Constitution to the far right, and anyone who advocates any thing on a federal level that is not in 100% compliance of the Constitution as written (not interpreted) is to the left.

    The more things you advocate non Constitutional, the farther you are to the left. Social Conservatives (on a federal level) are farther to the left than say Fiscal Conservatives.

    Being 100% for the Constitution makes you conservative, not a Conservative.

    There are as many Conservatives as there are people.

    Every one is trying to conserve what they believe in through politics, left or right.

    You can

    • 1bunny

      http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/11/were_not_electing_a_messiah.html

      From the article:
      Every day, you can turn on the cable news, or go to your favorite news or blog sites, and hear all about the Republican presidential candidates and how imperfect they are.

      The media is setting us up. They’re lying to us. The lie is this: we must have a perfect candidate to defeat Barack Obama in 2012. Conservatives more and more seem to buy into the lie. They buy into it and get discouraged. They don’t see any of our candidates as perfect, and they see Barack Obama’s re-election as inevitable. If the progressives can get enough of us to believe that the defeat of conservatism in 2012 is a foregone conclusion, they can keep us home on November 6. What many American conservatives need is a good, cold splash of reality.

      We don’t need a new messiah. We don’t need perfection. We need vision. We need substance. We need character. These traits are the building blocks of our Great Republic, and anyone wishing to be the Republican nominee for president must possess them in great quantities. We don’t need another savior; we simply want a president.
      ___________________________________________________________________
      I believe this is why we are not hearing much from the media on Perry and his good qualities. They don’t want conservatives to start thinking he can be elected. Rick Perry embodies everything the Tea Party and conservatives have been saying they want but he is not perfect (as defined by the media) so they will focus on the one quality the media says we need – a perfect debater. So voters go from candidate to candidate depending on who gives a good debate performance. I am tired of the flavor of the month and I hope the majority will wake up and go back to their principles of wanting someone who will stop DC from running every minutia of our lives and who is a true conservative. I believe Rick Perry is this candidate, he will shake up DC and get America back on the right path with his true conservative values and ideas.

      • texabama

        Gingrich is a bit different from the average with his history professor background, but most of our Washington “debaters” are lawyers. Being lawyers they can usually argue any side of an issue depending on who is paying for their service.

      • Common_Cents

        There’s plenty of over the line exaggeration and attacks on the GOP candidates. You’d think all of them are the political devil from the derangement syndrome bot diaries and comments. RS is straying from intelligent, fact based discussion.

        Yes, the tactic by the left/media is to compare our candidates to perfection, and give obama a pass. Many RS posters are falling right into this trap, often doing the lame stream media’s work for them posting all kinds of links from left wing sources.

        • intensity

          Hey guys

          Of the big primaries coming up in Jan.(Iowa, S. Carolina, New Hampshire, and Florida), does anyone know how many Perry would have to win to stay in the race?

          Reason I ask is I think he will do very well in the south. I just hope he gets his foot in the door.

          • constitutional

            It’s really rather difficult, but to say the least: a rather good showing in Iowa, and probably a win in South Carolina.

          • heraklios

            It will pay for candidates to stay in the race for a long time to accumulate delegates. I’m not sure it’s critical for Perry, or anyone else, to win anything early like it’s been in the past.

          • center77

            remember, Obama won a lot of early states, but then Clinton went on a tare and almost took it back from him.

          • lizzie

            “A rogue convention? How GOP party rules may surprise in 2012″
            http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/69048.html

            Once you read all three pages, if you do not have a headache, you will realize how important it is for NO ONE to win any of the four contests in January.

            Iowa has to be a four-way tie (and I am counting on Perry replacing Cain in the current 4-way polling tie), and Romney has to be denied more than 30% in New Hampshire.

            Seems The GOP Rules are destined to deny ANYONE the number of delegates needed, even if one person won every delegate in every contest, until March 24, 2012. I read that somewhere else, and I thought I would stop following this so closely, but
            RPaul is too scary to ignore,
            and Romney is NOT electable! no team sports, not even a cup of coffee, just a “private equity quarter billionaire” who truly is NOT electable.

            Perry knows America does not want another Harvard MBA+lawyer.
            Perry’s biggest hurdle is that America also does not want another Bush43 Texas-governor (I know Perry is the real deal, but it is still a powerful fiction out there) OR a male Sarah Palin (I know Perry is not a quitter, etc)

            Remember the debate when Perry got Romney to lose it, for Pete’s sakes!The thing that really made me mad was that the entire media (except for Jon Stewart) painted Perry as the bully, and gave Romney a mulligan for finally showing he was ‘human’.

            I really miss those pre-primary smoke-filled rooms. That is how we got Coolidge and Eisenhower. and Truman (who was a Democrat because the family farm had been looted by Yankee raiders during the Civil War).

      • kamiller42

        American Thinker is not for Rick Perry. Before Newt’s rise, American Thinker held a standard of near perfection and disqualified Perry. Now that Newt rises, legalizing illegal immigrants is okay, and flaws, i.e. disagreements, here and there are acceptable. Legalizing illegal immigrants good; providing in state tuition, a choice by the entire Texas legislative and executive branches except for 4 votes, is bad.

        Conservative media standards change based on who they want want to win. Look at Ann’s anti-McCain rhetoric and see her support Romney today.

  • nativetexan41

    For double posting.

  • avagreen

    for the life of me, I couldn’t understand why she’s even still standing behind a podium.

    Falsifies her facts (to put it mildly……..google Bachman and hypocrisy), and that fixed smile and those crazed big eyes really creep me out. (Couldn’t put my finger on why I was having such a reaction until I realized that particular expression reminds me of Daryl Hannah in Blade Runner when she was posing a doll while trying to figure out how to kill Harrison Ford.)
    Just me, I guess.

    But, she doesn’t need to be in this election any longer. The fact that she sucks up to Romney and plays his attack dog so he doesn’t have to just further disgusts me.
    The idea that he’s paying her to makes sense. If she has any hope of being his VP or such (which is what I’ve thought in the past), she’s really out to lunch. Politics can get so dirty.

    • sta46

      Cabinet post (DOJ), VP… SOMETHING to turn her into his little lap/attack dog and $$$$ makes the most sense since she’s been short on that for a while.
      We, as a true conservative group, have got to mobilize right now to help Perry. His poll numbers in Iowa are in the cellar and his $$$ will dry up soon if we don’t give him a boost. He can recover if he wins in SC and FL so any of you here who live in either SC or FL please get busy… NOW. Thanks from all of us who are believers.

      • constitutional

        I think there’s a large possibility he’s going to repay her debt like he did with Pawlenty.

        Have you seen her debt lately? Lol.

        • http://theheartlander.wordpress.com/ heartlander

          She was our champion back during ’09 and ’10, leading the TeaParty rebellion against ObamaCare.

          For her to now be sucking up to Romney of RomneyCare — and she very clearly is, IMO — there are no words for my disappointment. She’s darn sure not the person I thought she was.

          • heraklios

            Given what I’ve observed of Michelle since she entered Congress, there is NO WAY she would ever accept VP or a Cabinet post with Romney. Others behind the podium certainly would in a heartbeat but not her.

  • trevorb

    I think Perry has a lot of good ideas and I’m giving him a second look, but I still have serious reservations about supporting him as our next president.

    • wacowboy

      can you describe the nature of your reservations about Perry?

      there are a lot of posters here who are well informed about him and would love to help you overcome those reservations as much as it is possible.

      • usa1776usa

        Glad to hear you are giving Perry a second look. I’ve supported him from the time he entered the race because of his unmatched record in job creation, economic growth, limited govt, protection of innocent life, balanced budget, tort reform, and border security. Millions of Americans do not have a job. I believe Perry is the best chance we have of getting those folks back to work. The fact that he is only one of two major candidates who wore our nation’s uniform is icing on the cake.

        I will admit the debate debacles were hard to watch early on but now he has improved immensely, winning in SC and tying with Newt on the last debate. His proposed policies are right in line with his book FedUP. The man sticks to his word/positions on the major issues of our time.

        We have a chance to turn this ship around but it will require a strong principled conservative. I’ll go with the leader who has a proven successful track record of conservative governance. I/we hope you and your familiy and friends feel the same.

        • trevorb

          about him are numerous. His poor debate performances are one of them, although I will admit he has improved recently. The biggest is that he has this tendency to stick his foot in his mouth, such as suggesting a no-fly zone over Syria, although I think he figured out that wasn’t the best of moves.

          I’m not someone who hates him; I happen to think he’s a decent person and a decent governor, certainly better than the one I live under (I’m in California, land of the broke) I’m just not convinced he’s ready to be the president.

          • cheetah2

            http://www.infowars.com/free-syria-army-boss-calls-for-airstrikes/

            http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-11-28/free-syrian-army-seeks-no-fly-zone-vows-to-reach-palace.html

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        • trutexan

          I went to RickPerry.org and donated a C-note.

          Been meaning to do it, but just haven’t gotten around to it yet. Oh, and I sent Ted Cruze for Senate $50 this AM too. I guess it’s the Christmas spirit.

          • constitutional

            I’m absolutely glad to hear that.

            Together, we can take this country back.

  • Lesstressrx

    While studying all the candidates it became clear to me that Rick Perry was the most conservative and wanted less government intrusion into my life. I thought to myself, they will never let this man in the White House because he would shake the Republican Party & all of Washington up like no other. Unfortunately I have been right. He has made some mistakes in his debates, but they have been small compared to what Barack Obama has made. Every candidate has baggage of some type, but they are making sure everyone knows about Perry

    • cheetah2

      A great article from American Thinker regarding Perry’s “Lazy ad.

      The guy that many have written off as a candidate STILL gets the attention of Obama’s media minions!

      http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/11/rick_perrys_lazy_ad_called_borderline_criminal.html

    • williamjameson

      record in office. You have to search online to find Perry’s actual record of accomplishments because the drive by media that includes the failures at FOX all refuse to go into detail showing Perry’s accomplishments and they should also repeat the record to emphasize what’s really important to this country.

      If I voted based on gaffes and mistakes, I wouldn’t have voted for half the people I’ve voted for. Dumbass media crooks are trying to dumb down voters. Fight the urge, ignore the small stuff and focus on fiscal and ignore the social liberals and social conservative issues that won’t solve fiscal issues.

  • paco12348

    My greatest fear of Perry is his inability to debate. If smooth tongued liar Obama beat Perry in a debate we would lose the election and with 4 more years of the traitor in office we would lose America.
    Gingrich can debate, he knows what to do to undo the damage Obama has done to this country. He needs no OJT which Obama had and couldn’t learn. Newt has been there, done that and can do it again. He thinks out of the box and that’s what we need. The same ol’ things will not work. We are too far down the road to Socialism.
    Cut the crap about Newt’s baggage. He has settled and I believe that. He is American through and through. Read his books about America. He is Catholic, loves his wife and grandchildren and wants to leave them an America to be proud of.
    Newt asked forgiveness for his sins and has said so. Did Clinton? Clinton desecrated the Oval Office with his sexual antics and still today his opinion is sought and he is revered. He’s as crafty and sly as Obama and would have taken us down the same road, just at a slower pace just like wonderful Hillary would do.

    • constitutional

      Elect Newt even though he supported TARP and the individual mandate?

      It’s all great that we’d win, but what isn’t so great is the incredible failure of the person who just won. Then, eight years from that point we’re back to where we are now–except worse.

    • onemovoter

      Perhaps you could recount that for me, because I remember there was a GOP revolt against Newt in 1998 and threatened him that if he didn’t resign, they would boot his rear end for him.

      Newt gets a big head and ego when he gets into power. That is not a good thing to have as President. It was just like him to say that his affair during his second marriage was due to him “working so hard for America.” Bullcrap.

      How about Newt’s early political career? He sponsored and voted for the Carter Fairness doctrine. He voted to establish the Dept of Education. In 2007, Newt came out for the mandate for health care as we saw in the debate. Newt has the same stance as Romney does on health care and government.

      And all of that is just skimming the top of what’s out there. It gets uglier the more shows up.

      • wonkish1

        http://www.redstate.com/wonkish1/2011/10/19/a-play-by-play-on-newts-transgressions/

  • http://www.RightFace.us dkolonia

    Can he recover from those bad debate performances? Yes, he did much better in the last two but people have seemed to make up their mind on him. I think if Newt falters (which he might) Perry has a chance to move back up and challenge Romney.
    The biggest thing with Perry is that he disappointed in the debates and everyone wants someone who can battle Obama in that venue.

    • Tbone

      who think a couple of gotcha press conferences are more important than 10 years as a successful governor of a major successful state.

      You wouldn’t be one of those intellectually shallow voters, are you?

  • greyeagle

    Perry will not have any problem with Obama at debates. Just ban the teleprompter (Obama) in the agreement before the events. They hate each other. Perry has been fighting with Obama for the past 3 years. Obama and his minions have done their best to destroy TX in every way possible. Perry will do just fine. Remember that obama can’t do anything without a teleprompter.

  • nativetexan41

    and have been for him since he got in the race. I don’t understand why those that say they are conservatives are not supporting him. I have been unhappy with Rush, Sean they totally act like he is not in race. Fox also does the same and are disrespectful to Perry. If Palin endorses Gringrich , she will lose her credability
    with. We need to rally around Perry.

  • nativetexan41

    I have been for Perry since he got in the race. I don’t understand why those that say they are conservatives are not supporting him. I have been unhappy with Rush, Sean they totally act like he is not in race. Fox also does the same and are disrespectful to Perry. If Palin endorses Gringrich , she will lose her credability
    with. We need to rally around Perry.

  • paladin1

    about Palin. To some degree she has damaged herself with her stint at Fox, since she seems to have adopted the Fox line of attack on Perry, if only by ignoring his existence. I believe she loses all credibility as a conservative and as a “representative” of the tea party if she supports Gingrich PRIOR to the time he were to become the nominee. Once we get a nominee, no matter whom, then her endorsement is acceptable even if the conservative candidate is knocked out because we will need unity to defeat Obama in the general. As long as Governor Perry is in the race, he is much the more conservative candidate over Gingrich and has the ability to carry the race through. A Gingrich endorsement over Perry at this time would cause many conservatives to ignore her, in my opinion. I certainly would.

  • avagreen

    Sending him my $$, been posting about him on forums for months (although some forums won’t allow postings about Perry…….gotta wonder why **evil grin**). That’s how I discovered RS.
    American Thinker hasn’t been real responsive, either……..can’t seem to get posts posted.

    But, there are hundreds of forums that will allow posts. If a person can’t send money, they can post

  • Flagstaff

    Maybe not through the entire interview, but she did everything she could to get him to say exactly what his policy would be towards existing illegal immigrants, which of course would put him in a box later.

    To his credit, he refused to say more than that there are many alternatives, the question should be decided by the American people, and it’s only an “intellectual exercise” to try to hash it out before the border is secure.

    I am getting very, VERY tired of Greta van Susteren’s countenance on my TV screen. Her questions are infantile or slanted to goad a fight or a controversial reply, IF she is interviewing a Republican. I suppose that some might think that’s her job, but she handles Democrats with kid gloves. I would appreciate a more professional host on prime time, but I guess Rupert M. likes her.

  • redmymind

    I am glad I don’t stand alone over this sense of frustration but remain somewhat consoled by the fact that the race is still fluid and that not a single vote has yet been cast.

    My particular concerns:

    1. The field has still not condensed itself, thereby continuing to dilute the anti-Romney support.

    2. As great as our man Perry is, this weird “head-wind” of name-brand pundits who virtually ignore him or have nothing good to say about him do have a swaying effect on the folks who don’t/can’t see beyond the current poll numbers in determining whom they consider to be the winner.

    Just imagine how different the poll numbers might read today if all the big-name pundits touted Perry without flinching.

    I’m sure they are bright enough to know exactly the level of influence they exercise collectively in helping propel a candidate toward the nomination. They should therefore spare us the theatrics of sounding all neutral or “undecided” about a candidate.

    I’m sure they need no help from us as far as determing exactly where the candidates stand on the issues, what their strengths and challenges are, and what they are like as far as character. Therefore, this on-air pretense of a “wait-and-see” attitude seems quite disgustingly disingenuous to say the least!

    If WE know who we want, don’t tell me they haven’t been forming some idea as to “their” ideal candidate. By the looks of it, it ain’t Perry. If he is, they sure have a funny way of showing him support.

    We Perry supporters, I’m afraid, don’t have the luxury of merely sitting around, brooding, and hoping for a miracle. We need to roll up our sleeves and start doing the work that these CINOs (Conservatives In Name Only) are evidently not doing, whatever their reasons.

  • Scope

    Yes McCain put her on the national stage when he announced his choice for his VP running mate. I don’t honestly believe that McCain wanted Palin on the ticket, but she was a female, she had, at the time, high approval ratings as Gov. of AK, and she was big on energy and for drill here drill now.

    If it weren’t for Palin, Obama would have won in a major landslide in 2008. Yet, from the get go, McCain’s team treated Palin as though she really was what Tina Fey portrayed, I can see Russia from my porch. Much of that story came out after the election, long before Palin wrote anything about it in her first book. She was handled, and not allowed to shout her conservative message, and to take the gloves off against Obama, who McCain said at the time would be a fine president, and no one had anything to fear with him as president.

    When Palin left her position as Gov., half way through her term, I didn’t have as much of a problem with it as many others did. I really believed that she would begin to work on a plan to mount a real challenge to Obama in 2012, and that she needed the mobility to do so. Man, was I let down. What she managed to do was to make herself a pop celebrity, with documentaries about herself, a few of them. She went on reality TV in a series. She was the star showing up at Dancing with the Stars when her daughter competed there. She was hired by Fox, but rearly appeared, and when she did it was another celebrity shoot, featuring the star, rather than her talking about conservative issues and ideas, deconstructing the positions that Obama was taking, in an intelligent and meaningful manner. She was played by Roger Ailes and became nothing more than a ratings getter.

    I understand that many believe that Palin owed McCain, when she endorsed him for his 58th Senate run. But, Palin didn’t just endorse McCain, she very actively campaigned for him in AZ. She held rallies for him, knowing that she could draw the crowds. She asked everyone to please vote for her good friend John McCain, because he is the greatest, and must be sent back to Washington. The choices for that race were bad and worse, but after all the treachery and disappointment from McCain over the years, I would have voted for a box of milk duds before I would have been a part of sending McCain back to Washington. He is part of the problem, and we all know it. My thought at the time was that if Palin was willing to sell her conservative credentials down the river, just to pay someone back for her celebrity status, she would also sell her conservative positions down the river in the snake pit that is Washington. The pay-back game flourishes in DC, and Palin decided to participate in it. The squishes. That’s just how I feel about it.

    So yes, I absolutely can see Palin endorsing anyone who she thinks will benefit her personally. Hey, maybe a cabinet position in a Gingrich or even Romney administration would be the ultimate pay-back, and she wouldn’t have to be ready for that 3AM call. Remember back months ago when so many of us thought she would surely endorse Perry, as they were such good friends, and they seemed to be so ideologically alike? At this point I couldn’t care less who Palin endorses, or doesn’t endorse. To me, Palin has become a conservative of convenience.

  • constitutional

    That was in essence my point of the post. I think there’s something fishy in the “news elite” and Governor Perry is apparently useless to them.

    I think we’ve got to unite, and the problem is really a bit of a waiting game to see how far we get in IA. I can’t do much until he’s where I live — which is a rather large state, and he’ll need it for the nomination — so the Perry’s must really rally for Iowa.

    It’s going to take a lot of praying.

  • Scope

    that he was going to have a big hill to climb. He said that if Gov. Perry won the presidency, many many of those in Washington would be out of a job. With Perry’s release of his plans to reform Washington, cutting the pay of the Senators and House Reps., cutting their time in half, hence cutting the lobbyists time in half, making it illegal for those in Washington to enrich themselves through insider trading (now being presented as legislation in Wash.), and taking a sledge hammer to the cess pool we all know it is, has not gained him many friends in high places.

    Rush particularly, and I’m sure Levin and Hannity, and most of the talking heads all know several people in Washington. They have access to inside information, they are invited to the big bashes and parties and events. They are cozy with many inside the beltway. I am very honestly wondering if those inside DC haven’t gotten the ears of the talking heads to downplay Perry so as to keep their cushy jobs.

    Look at what Fox has done to Perry’s campaign. Every single Fox host, and the majority of guests either ignore Perry, or say his name begrudgingly with a sneer on their faces. When he released his plans for tax reform or for energy, those plans got very little play on Fox, if they were even mentioned. Yet we were nauseated with hearing 999 over and over, even though once studied, 999 is the least favorite of the tax plans proposed by any candidates in polling. I would bet big money that Cain has had the most appearances on Fox since he started his campaign. He has been on with every host, and in every time slot. Even Ron Paul has had much face time on Fox, especially with Cavuto. That was as of a few weeks ago when I was still watching Fox. Like so many others, I never thought I’d see the day that my TV resided on the CNN channel, if I have it on at all. I turned the radio off the day that Pat Gray, filling in for Glenn Beck, knocked Perry really badly, and said that he has done enough to seal the border, or to cut down on the illegal immigration problem. It was as though he forgot that the federal government even existed. I turned Rush off before that when it became a 3 hour a day, 5 day a week Cain love fest.

    If there is anyone powerful enough to have so much control over the media, they have been wildly successful in a Perry blackout, while keeping the rest in the field so fluid and on a roller coaster, annointing one flavor of the week after the next, which will result in what appears to be the ultimate goal, Romney by default. Rather than helping to narrow the field so the best conservative could rise to the top with overwhelming support, they have been complicit in the game of keep the field split. The leftists debate game has also contributed to that phenomenon, in that there has been no weeding out, and it’s free advertising for those short on campaign cash.

  • marybeth7

    which is why I have decided to walk the walk and not just talk the talk. I will fly from my Mississippi Gulf Coast home to work the Perry campaign in Iowa from 12/31/11 thru 1/4/12. I hope many others from around the country will join us if they possibly can.

  • redmymind

    Inasmuch as Medved’s a Mitt man, I respect him for just coming out and saying so. Same with Coulter . . . though her apparent attachment to Romney, I think, goes a little beyond mere preference.

    The others who don’t quite “commit” on air to the candidate they’re clearly leaning towards by virtue of the tons of nice things they just happen to say about him at every given opportunity (whilst completely ignoring Perry) really should shed their silly, all-too-obvious veneer of “wait-and-see-neutrality”. Theirs is clearly the practice of “endorsing without ‘endorsing’” a.k.a. de facto endorsement.

  • dcacklam

    Follows the polls…

    There was plenty for them to say about Perry when he was front-runner… Since the crash, they’ve focused on Cain, and now Gingrich…

    Personally, I’m still for Perry – his one ‘position problem’ is his view of the Fed (not as wrong as Ron Paul, but still something better left buried with Andrew Jackson)…..

    But he won’t get any press unless (like McCain) he reverses his slide in the polls….

  • changeforrickperry

    Article from Big Government.com and it’s really encouraging!

    http://biggovernment.com/awrhawkins/2011/11/25/gov-rick-perry-has-come-out-swinging-against-obama-and-fast-and-furious/

    My two bits in the comments section:

    “Hold onto your horses, friends, and stock up on the popcorn. Rick Perry is gaining momentum slowly but surely. While Newt and Willard Romney are basking in the media sunlight, Perry is working hard underneath the media’s radar. His stellar conservative record, his excellent 11-year leadership of the most successful state in the Union, and his friendly personality are working in his favor. By the end of December folks will be disillusioned with the baggage-ridden Newt (TARP, Tiffany’s, and cozy commercials with Nancy Pelosi, anyone?). The media may just get the shock of their lives when Perry makes a good showing in Iowa.

    “Just remember, folks: in November 2007 it was supposed to be a race between Rudy Giuliani and Hillary Clinton. John McCain’s campaign was declared dead in the water–and look what happened. Polls don’t show undercurrents of support. So hold on, reserve your judgement, and underestimate Rick Perry at your own risk. He’s never failed to surprise.”

  • http://theheartlander.wordpress.com/ heartlander

    After all those months we listened to her say, over and over, that if we didn’t nominate Chris Christie, Romney would win the nomination, and just as night follows day, we would lose again to Obama…

    For her to now come out and endorse the very man she’s painted for months as a surefire loser to Obama, is beyond galling. She’s either sold-out or delusional.

    (Although, even her over-the-top adoration of Chris Christie turned me off. Christie’s an Islamist-appeaser, pro-actively and repeatedly went to bat for a guy with multiple radical-Islam-jihadi connections)

    I loved Ann’s book Demonic, recommend it very highly to everyone, it’s one of the best political books of the last few years. In fact, I would call it a MUST-READ.

    But there’s something wrong with her. She seems to have a split personality.

  • vangoghssister

    Surely there are more ‘out there somewhere’. As I have gathered from reading posts here at Constitutional’s diary, I’m not the only one entirely frustrated with the the fact Gov Perry’s record is being completely ignored, for the most part, by all media, MSM or conservative, television, radio, print or blog. I do not understand why those who are supposed to be conservative are not rallying around him and helping him get elected. Why? I am so disappointed in the so-called conservative talking heads I could scream.

    I personally will not be voting for debater-in-chief. Once the candidate is elected, there will be no more debates while carrying out the duties of the POTUS. I truly believe that Gov Perry will do an excellent job debating that man currently occupying our White House. As POTUS, he will not be on a stage with 5 or 6 barking seals vying for the attention of the one with the bait bucket.

    I am tired of holding my nose when voting. The only time I didn’t was when I voted for Reagan. With Gov Perry on the ticket, not only will I not hold my nose when marking the ballot, I will feel proud as I do so.

    Glad to know y’all are here – I’m looking forward to reading more of your views!

  • greyeagle

    Rick Perry has been the best Governor that TX ever had and the longest serving. I loved President Bush as well, but he had a much shorter tenure.. Perry needs to work under the radar, because he is attacked by the media both liberal, and some of the conservative media, who apparently want Romney. Perry has had two or three excellent debates and his speeches have also been very good. I agree that he is slowly moving up.

  • constitutional

    There have been many great leaders in the history of this country — and throughout all history– and, my friend, Rick Perry is among those leaders.

    Something dawned upon me earlier today–in the case of Reagan’s three presidential campaigns.

    In 1976, it was quite divided between Reagan conservatives and Ford moderates: few endorsed Reagan because only Ford could challenge Carter. (Does this remind you of anything?)

    In 1980, one of the many doubters of Reagan’s candidacy was his former opponent — Gerald Ford, who said “A very conservative Republican cannot win the presidency.”

    In 1984, Reagan stuttered quite badly in a debate due to over-stuffing with information. So, should we have abandoned Reagan and let George H.W. Bush take over the ticket?

    I mean, this is hilarious. Where are you Michelle Malkin, Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Sean Hannity?

  • Benta_Nordstrom

    I agree we have to stick with Rick Perry. He is good and he is Our best chance to beat Obama.
    I believe many people stayed at home in 2008 and did not vote! Conservatives will not come out and support Romney in 2012! His record is one we just cannot trust! Ronald Reagan and George W Bush had the conservative vote and they each won two terms. The Bob Dole and John McCains do not win!

  • sta46

    The so called “conservatives”, most of whom have been bought and paid for by the pound, are ALL afraid of Perry.
    IMO ORomneycare has promised Bachman that he will pick up her campaign expenses if she will stay in the race thus preventing the conservative base (read Tea Party) from coalescing around someone else (read Perry).
    I don”t even watch Fox anymore because they always have the suck-weasel-in-chief Rove and the suck-weasel-in-training Morris slamming Perry.
    I believe that they are all doing this because he WOULD make DC irrelevant and they could not tolerate that for one single minute. Think McLame and Lindsey want to get sent home without pay till they sign on to a BBA? Not only no, but hell no.
    I read here recently that RS diaristTenneseean is going to Iowa soon to help Perry. I help take care of my special needs granddaughter so I cannot go myself. However, TENNESEEAN IF YOU ARE READING THIS this please post something telling us how we can help you help the good governor. We all need to do everything we can or his candidacy will become yet another shattered dream for a lot of us.

  • avagreen

    :/
    ??

  • sta46

    what sites won’t “allow” postings about Perry?

  • Xasteius

    Although Palin has done good things for the party, it only matters as far as it gives her more face time and/or more money. She will not do anything that will detract from either.

  • Scope

    Thinking about the 2010 primary races, Palin endorsed some only after she saw a clear path for a win for them. Fiorina and Ayoette come to mind.

  • texabama

    and she holds off endorsing anybody. I know she will lose me permanently if she endorses Gingrich. I don’t see how it is possible to talk about “crony capitalism” and “Washington insiders” and not see Gingrich as the poster child. While I can admire a good debate performance and listen to ideas, I’m much more concerned with the actual implementation of those ideas. Unlike gifts, it’s not just the thought that counts (though I’ve always thought that was wrong also. If you really are thoughtful you’d choose the appropriate gift.)

  • avagreen

    American Thinker was the last one I tried that flat out surprised me. If you can get a positive post about Perry posted contradicting some of the disinformation being out, let me know. I’d like to read it. “Waiting moderation” was what I got 3/4′s of the time.

    Of course, HufPo hasn’t allowed any postings I’ve made on any subject……not news. Just not posted, didn’t even show up.

    Jane Fonda’s forum….”waiting moderation”

    Trackforum.com used to have a political forum, but wouldn’t allow posts about Perry, or you’d be nitpiked to death or posts would be edited by the moderator T13.

    IOwnTheWorld openly hostile to anything about Texas, or Perry. You’ll be cursed out, ridiculed, harassed …..by the moderators.

    ABCNews.com…..I just left another comment. Not posted.
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/11/nhs-most-influential-paper-to-make-gop-primary-endorsment-sunday/#comment-9072352

  • Scope

    Was it the New Republic that went all in for Cain, and banned anyone posting about Romney? There was an article about their bannings out there. I also understand that started banning any positive Perry posts also. I don’t know much about the site, I’ve never even visited there.

  • Scope

    Was it you who said you emailed Baier about those leaving over the unfair treatment of Perry, and that he replied that Fox ratings were going up? It seemed that shortly after that, Perry did in fact appear on Fox at least three times with Cavuto, O’Reilly and Hannity. Since then crickets again.

    Because the radio talking heads, and the TV channels all thrive on ratings, it would be wonderful if there was a concerted effort by the masses to boycott their programs until they start actually being more fair and balanced on the coverage of all of the GOP candidates. Right now it appears that all of those considered to be more right wing, and with a microphone, want to pick and choose the winners and the losers. I thought at first that the radio guys were just coming out against the leftist hit pieces on our candidates, but, by their actions and promotions of one candidate over the others, Cain for one, they are playing the same dirty games as the left.

  • greyeagle

    Very ugly article about Perry on American Thinker. It is written in a way meant to destroy Governor Perry. A similar article by this man’s partner showed up on Free Republic and World Net Dailey. I wrote a response twice protesting the information and slander. My comments were not posted. Governor Perry is a good man and keeps his promises. He is a staunch Conservative and has been good for TX. That is why I was horrified that these articles were posted on so called conservative web sites.

  • constitutional

    But I do know that most of politics is just reality. I am well aware that Rick Perry winning would/will be nothing more than a miracle. But I also knew when Cain, Gingrich and Bachmann were in the lead that it would probably not last long. Their records are either too long or too short. Right now all they’re doing is helping Romney. Imagine if all three of those people left–we’d have a HUGE surplus of votes going to Perry.

  • lizzie

    The New Republic has an unusual history in American political and intellectual discourse. Their TNR.com has bloggers who are so liberal that I am considering not renewing my $30/year electronic subscription. Why do I subscribe? On Foreign policy, TNR is about the only website where you can be fiercely pro-Israel, and have excellent company in comment threads, usually those started by Martin Peretz. The Israel-bashing left who wander into our threads always give up.

    You have to be a TNR subscriber to comment online, where I use a different screen name, because when I first registered at redstate, I was enthralled with Jane Austen’s Elizabeth Bennet.

    So, I can assure you that 1) TNR.com is still supporting Obama (with about five die-hard commenters outnumbered by us skeptics),
    2) making fun (in a 13-year old boy mean fun way) of ALL GOP candidates, though not so much with Mr. Cain because TNR.com is overly into multi-cultural political correctness, and
    3) I am the go-to TNR.com commenter in support of Rick Perry. And, have changed a few minds about Perry.

    What Republicans do not understand is that there are a whole lot of us conservative democrats who have been thrown out with the trash by the Pelosi-Obama-Reid rump of what remains of the Democratic Party.

    Personally, the more I get to know Rick Perry, the more I know why the entire media, from left to right, attacks him, besides the convenience of being politically correct to gleefully use the “all Texans are dumb” and “all southern white men are racists” stereotypes.

    Rick Perry is Leadership in action, on so many levels. On Nov 12, Perry made his point on immdiately sanctioning Iran’s Central Bank. As of this morning, that is topic #1 now that France has done it.

    I am counting on more GOP voters to see the same.

    As to other online comments in support of Rick Perry?
    No problem at pjmedia.com, and I sure am having fun at The Texas Tribune, and Commentary’s daily blog, though I gave up on WaPo’s Jen Rubin since she seems to be doing a good job discrediting herself since Eric Erickson called her out.

    My current concern is that the real issue facing the GOP is how to stop Ron Paul from winning Iowa. Paul is using the same ground game that Obama used in 2008.

    Cheer up: Today, The New York Times has a fair-enough profile of Rick Perry’s Air Force service that changes the subject for him, until the next debate on Dec. 10.

    In he meantime, Gingrich and Cain and Romney will be using the media oxygen.

  • constitutional

    I’ve noticed Ron Paul trying to get there.. I’m not sure if he can win Iowa but it is certainly possible. We’re just going to have to work very hard for Perry to see what we can do. On the whole, it is rather likely up to him and his staff to get the word out in Iowa.

  • acat

    Iowa stopped being able to predict the winner a cycle or two after the “conventional wisdom” recognized that Iowa was reliably picking winners.

    Ron Paul is welcome to spend huge amounts of money to try to win Iowa. It won’t matter, in the long run, and may benefit us as it encourages the “conventional wisdom” to change.

    Mew

  • constitutional

    IIRC she was at like 6% until Mrs. Palin endorsed her.

  • turkeyotooley

    I appreciate that you seem to understand the depth of the problem we are facing. We are constantly told that defeating Obama is the most important priority.

    That is incorrect.

    Men like Obama do not come to power without a serious breakdown in our constitutional republic. Obama is bad news. But the real problem is what leads to men or women like him.

    Entrenched power is the problem. In many, many ways the left / right paradigm is useful to camaflouge tyranny. Don’t get me wrong — I stand against many liberal policies. But my biggest beef is with the corruption in the Republican party. It must be rooted out. I am convinced that the powers that be are using spin and propaganda to keep the broken system in place.

    Roger Ailes and FOX News are protected the neoconservative statists. Hannity, O’Reilly, and the other Fox talking heads are bought by the network that broadcasts their shows. Hannity is a cheerleader; he will do whatever his Republican overlords demand. O’Reilly is a demagogue.They have been co-opted. The Salem Radio Network is also controlled by the neoconservatives. Romney is putty in their hands. That is why Hewitt and Medved are complete shills for the Romney campaign.

    Some of these sophists are more clever than others. Medved can be pretty brazen about his support for Romney, but he disingenuously uses his show to shape conservative opinion, like a rancher herds cattle. Same with Hewitt, but he is a little more subtle. People who have been keyed in to politics for a long time, or who have familiarity with rhetoric can detect what these guys are doing. I am keeping my eye on Morrissey and Hot Air. For a while, it seemed as if he was fair in his treatment of Perry. But recently it seems that it was all a ruse to sucker people into being dejected about the Perry campaign and finally give Romney a chance. I haven’t been able to determine yet.

    There is also Rubin, the WaPo hack who shills for Romney at least once a week. She has strong neoconservative ties and shamelessly props up the Romney campaign.

    Then you have all of the curious endorsements for Romney’s campaign. I am no “tinfoil hat” guy, but Chris Christie’s endorsement of Mitt Romney shocked me. The whole narrative propping up Chris Christie is that he is a straight shooter. He is fiscally responsible and gets results against signficant opposition. He shoots straight with the public. Right? Wrong. He hemmed and hawed and told half-truths when he endorsed Romney for president. Making that endorsement was very foolish for any presidential aspirations he had in the future. It doesn’t seem hard to fathom that the established, wealthy donors who support these politicians had a “heart-to-heart” with Christie and told him to either run for the Presidency or to support the Establishment choice. The seemingly fearless and bold Christie did what he was told and made the endorsement to try and convince conservatives to come on board.

    There is a war going in the Republican party. It is critically important that conservatives who support limited government defeat the statists in their attempts to force us to accept a candidate–Romney–who will keep the oppressive government system in place.

  • greyeagle

    Heard them say Friday that Ginrich/s Immigration plan is much better than Rick Perry’s. That Perry’s plan is very liberal. I nearly fell over my chair. What Immigration Plan? It is instate tuition. Obviously all of this concentrated effort is coming from Roger Ailes. Fox is probably in the tank for Romney. They simply don’t want a conservative to win. Fox changed, possibly due to Soros and the Dems trying to get sponsors to quit supporting Glen Beck’s show. This may be a possibility. What little exposure that Perry has had, is likely due to all of the time that his campaign purchased. I read that it was closer to a million dollars. However, when he has been on a show, the fox staff has been borderline rude. If you haven’t sent comments to Roger Ailes, it might be worthwhile.

  • lizzie

    newsbit from CNN just now., with that tough-on-immigration sherriff from Arizona. Must be a punch-back to Romney, and get some press.

    Hard to keep track of these schedules, because I can drive to NH to see him for real. But not next week.

    Santorum is spending this weekend in New Hampshire – even bought the family Christmas tree there.

    Thing is, apparently NATO just accidentally killed 15 Pakistani military on that porous Af-Pak border, and Pakistan has again shut down the Khyber Pass supply route, and demanded the CIA shut down their drone-field.

    Which makes me wonder if Huntsman is going to get some oxygen.
    Please, not Paul…

  • avagreen

    I can’t find my email or Baiers’ reply, but I did post the reply somewhere on this forum.
    I think it was just a coincidence that Perry was on FOX after my email, but who knows??;) Actually, I do think it was just a coincidence.

    What I wrote to every email address on FOX (and to which only Bret Baier responded) was that FOX was getting a bad rep here at RS as evidenced by the many complaints about FOX being written here r/t their treatment of Perry, and mentioned that EE, is the Editor.

    Also wrote that many of we conservatives are refusing to watch FOX and are opting for sites such as CNN instead for a more balanced news on Perry, and that at this would be affecting their ratings , which would most likely suffer.
    And, told him to look in on our site to see for himself.

    He replied most curtiously (and sounded just like he talks on FOX) that he was a fan of EE and enjoyed his writings. That FOX wasn’t going down in ratings and still above all the rest, etc. He then went on to say that Perry had been the subject 9 times on Fox at the time of the email.

    I replied by telling how great it was for him to reply and how nice he sounded in his email (just like he talks on FOX), asking him if each time Perry had been mentioned did it also require that the video of the famous “brain freeze” be shown some place in the “mention”, and if so, why was that necessary as it was already famous enough …….? Because I knew that it was being played ad nauseum there (still watching at times back then), and questioned if the 9 “mentions” of Perry were positive in nature, and asked if Cain’s flubs were being given as much airtime when he was “mentioned.”

    Also mentioned that the one time I saw Perry being interviewed on Hannity, the panel immediately launched into how badly Cain was being treated in the media(told him this was ironic)……..and not a word about what Perry had just said. Not a word!

    Also mentioned that the pollings probably weren’t reflecting the consensus right now, as I am called on a regular basis by a polling company, and the last time I got called I was still watching FOX 24/7, but that was before I’ve decided to quit watching. And, that the new polls would probably reflect a lowering of their ratings if they didn’t make a change in their reporting.

    I thought it was co-incidental that Perry got some air time then, but it may have been r/t Perry’s buying ads at $1M a pop.

    Maybe we all should write FOX. I know I’ve done so about a dozen times.

  • texabama

    I also found the Thune endorsement to be disappointing and symptomatic of exactly what you’re describing.

  • onemovoter

    Just Breaking on Twitter….

    Joe Arpaio to endorse Rick Perry

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/11/sheriff-joe-arpaio-to-endorse-rick-perry-next-week/#.TtGNG2dKKQA.twitter

  • bzip

    That is excellent news, this is just wonderful. Oh boy I am happy, thanks so much onemovoter.

    This is the turning point Rick Perry needs. This is big news and it will have a impact, for sure.

    This will hopefully tunr things around for Perry. I am so happy for him. Finally he gets a break and a well deserved break. This better be in the MSM big time.

  • westcoastpatriette

    Another thing that some may not know about Perry is that when the feds sued Arizona over SB 1070, Texas filed an amicus brief in support of Arizona in the court case. So, the assumption that Perry is pro-illegal immigrant (based solely on Texas’ Dream Act) is patently false. People need to understand that that law is so limited in scope that it should not be misconstrued in terms of how Perry will deal with illegal immigration as President. That Sheriff Joe is endorsing Perry should confirm that.

  • bzip

    lets see it appears on ABC news (as you mentioned onemovoter) and now on CNN but haven’t see it on Fox (yet).

    Sheriff Arpaio to campaign with Perry
    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/26/sheriff-arpaio-to-campaign-with-perry/

  • lizzie

    in the Boston television market, and Romney is filling the airwaves with ads.

    I totally understand why Perry needs this endorsement, but, am still scratching my head over Sheriff Joe in New Hampshire. Face it, no one north of the Mason-Dixon line except us transplants has ever seen a chain gang. When I was a kid in Florida, in the 1950′s, it really ugly seeing them all chained together as road crews,

    Maybe they will have the endorsement announcement just before they go deer hunting – so it looks like Perry wanted Sheriff Joe to see how beautiful it is to hunt deer in New Hampshire. Season is still open. although all the woodland creatures up here are very confused with two rounds of snow cover so far, Oct 29 and Nov 23.

    This primary season just gets weirder and weirder. Gingrich is holding a town hall on Staten Island, NY next Saturday. Interesting location because last summer there was a huge controversy when the Archdiocese tried to sell a former convent/monastery to a local muslim congregation. The Church backed down.

    well, seems this diary has been disabled.

  • http://theheartlander.wordpress.com/ heartlander

    I don’t recall all the individuals now, but I was very engaged in the 2010 elections, contributed money and made phone calls around the country for many different candidates, and I remember that there were quite a few TeaParty conservatives who would NOT have won their primaries had it not been for Sarah Palin’s help.

  • changeforrickperry

    I just saw this on Twitter. This will do WONDERS for Perry’s immigration positions. I mean, if Arpaio of all people is endorsing him, then people will start thinking, “Hey, he must not be too bad on immigration and the border after all…”

    Beautiful!

  • romansdaughter

    on Fox too. It Says Arapaio is going to be with Rick there in New Hampshire..how about that?? Yippy!

  • donald_24

    On the 2nd Amendment, Christie shares the views of Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer. Christie is actually to the left of Harry Reid on the 2nd Amendment.

    And his record on illegal immigration as US Attorney is appalling.

    Here is one of Christie’s old campaign flyers from the 1990s:

    http://www.politickernj.com/files/images/Christie1995001.jpg

  • mattlina

    That is all.

  • http://theheartlander.wordpress.com/ heartlander

    …I wrote a well-received piece here back in July about Thad McCotter, right after he jumped into the race. It was disappointing enough that BigMedia ignored him and never let him participate in a debate. But imagine my disappointment when, upon announcing his dropping out of the race, he gave his endorsement to Romney!!! (In all fairness, it might be because McCotter’s biggest issue seems to be China, and Romney has had more to say about China than any of the other candidates except maybe Santorum, who gets ignored and dissed even more than Perry)

    But the Ann Coulter endorsement — after many months of her lecturing us about how a Romney nomination would guarantee Obama’s re-election — is the most maddening of all.

    And while we’re on it, why the heck is Robert Bork on Romney’s team?

  • http://theheartlander.wordpress.com/ heartlander

    How awesome to spend vacation days working for something you believe in! God bless you. Hope you have a fabulous trip.

  • sta46

    those of us who are unable to go can help you and Tennesseean (who is also going) help the good governor/God willing our next president!
    I will do any/all I can but am home-bound helping to take care of a special-needs grandchild.

  • http://theheartlander.wordpress.com/ heartlander

    Perry’s recent focus on this definitely scores him lots of points in my book!

    Gunwalker is bigger than Watergate and Iran-Contra combined. Our own government ordered private gundealers to sell weapons to people the gundealers believed were dangerous and did not want to sell to. Field agents were ordered by their superiors to not interdict the guns at any point and to let them go unhindered to their ultimate destination, the drug kingpins — who make al-Qaeda look practically benevolent by comparison. The narcolords are the sickest, most violent thugs on earth — and they have been armed by our government, without our knowledge or consent. If Holder, Clinton, Napolitano and Obama don’t all end up in prison, America is almost beyond hope.

  • http://theheartlander.wordpress.com/ heartlander

    see her comment above.

    RedStaters really put their money (and their feet!!) where their mouths are. I am so proud of you folks!!!

  • redmymind

    n/t

  • federalfarmer1

    That ripped each other here for months. Maybe shell be his running mate!

  • center77

    to campaign with him. I think that may help, huh, anybody.

  • changeforrickperry

    I read an article early on in my research (sorry, don’t have a link now, it was months ago) about the TX curriculum and it wasn’t pro-Shariah. In fact, it was very balanced and pro-Israel, anti-jihadist, and pro-Western civilization. I’ll try to find this information; I’m almost positive it was linked here at RS back in the summer.

    I’m disappointed in Robert Spencer; his “Politically-Incorrect Guide to Islam (And the Crusades)” was very informative. But here in this article he’s implying Perry was drunk in NH along with other smears.

    Be encouraged, though, greyeagle–I’m flipping through the comments section and I’m seeing plenty that are pro-Perry.

  • changeforrickperry

    Here’s the link to the article: “Debunking The Rick Perry ‘Pro-Sharia’ School Curriculum.” I read this months ago and was completely convinced out of my last remaining reservations about Perry.

    http://www.ruthfullyyours.com/2011/08/16/debunking-the-rick-perry-pro-sharia-school-curriculum-must-read/

    It really is a must-read for anyone concerned about this curriculum. It’s very detailed and you get to read parts of the curriculum itself.

  • sta46

    the worst attacks on Rick Perry will come from the entrenched establishment on the right… especially now that he told them he is going to cut their time in DC by half.

  • bobguzzardi

    If the electorate has another brain freeze and re-elects BHO, the back plan is that we all move to Texas, elect Rick Perry President and secede. Then erect a fence around the new country “No Liberals Allowed”.

  • constitutional

    I was thinking of that.

    But, on a serious note, if we get into so much trouble that — I get tears in my eyes when I think like this — that he loses, there is always 2016.

    We have to have leadership now though. And that leader is Rick Perry, damn it!

  • gekster

    I posted this back in August. It would work, and it’s great for the OWS crowd.

    [Liberal] Divorce agreement

  • wacowboy

    I’ve thought of this too. It’s in the lines of “what do we do if BO wins another term?”

    Hadn’t thought of the electing perry part though. or the fence.

  • lizzie

    survive until 2016 with weak-to-zero leadership.
    The bond market rules – they are just distracted with Italy this week.

    15 million Americans have to start working again, and working to make what we buy, and paying taxes again to reduce the annual deficit.
    Then the two polarized political parties have to both learn to compromise, which takes real leadership. Perry wants to align with Coburn’s ‘Back in Black’, but Coburn is now impure?

    which is why I can not believe illegal immigration is all that anyone talks about

    and the dems still deluded that Obamacare was a brilliant idea and had nothing to do with the 2010 loss.

  • center77

    I am still trying to figure it out.

  • reggie182

    nt

  • nathanalbright

    …to click on the “edit” button in your “my profile” page but that function has been disabled for some time and you are on a long list of people (myself included) waiting to have diaries.

  • romansdaughter

    Arpaio.

  • constitutional

    There isn’t much we can do. If the Tea-Party block becomes wooed by Newt or Romney, there isn’t much we can do to stop that from being Perry’s downfall. But it isn’t too late.

  • izoneguy

  • audax

    You need to be loggedin to “Recommend” and write Diary’s

  • boonerdan

    ” . . . they totally act like he is not in race.” This is because he is no longer a factor. I am sure he is a great Governor and the people of TX have every right to whatever state government they want.

    BUT, when Gov. Perry decided he wanted to be President for ALL of us, he opened himself up to a deeper analysis. Supporting in-state tuition for illegals, believing the global warming hoax, and telling parents how to care for their children’s medical needs are NOT “smaller government” positions. The very fact that some of you claiming to be conservatives think these positions are okay is even more troubling than Gov. Perry’s inability to deliver a coherent thought in front of cameras.

    If Perry is truly the champion of smaller government, why did he fold under pressure from the TSA when they threatened to deny air traffic to TX over the sexual harassment legislation TX was considering? Either you are against a tyrannical government or you are for it. You cannot be both.

    Just to reiterate: the people of TX can do whatever they want with their tax money and their Constitutional rights. Perry had his chance with his entrance into the race. Those of you blaming talk radio hosts, authors and TV pundits are simply looking for a scapegoat rather than accepting the fact that your chosen candidate cannot close the deal.

  • Common_Cents

    .

  • Tbone

    “believing the global warming hoax”

    Google “Perry Global Warming”

    Then comeback and apologize for being either a liar or ignorant twit.

  • wonkish1

    Feel free to support him or not, but I am getting a little sick of falsehoods being dropped on every candidate because candi-bots see that damaging an opponent you don’t like justifies making false statements about a particular candidate.

  • gekster

    The rest of your arguements have already been refuted, but this global warming thing is new to me.

  • bzip

    You have to forgive boonerdan – it appears based on his posting history that he is a Cain Sex Train follower who seems sour on everything and everyone.

    To set your false claims straight Perry has always been very consistent in his conservative principles and record, that includes global warming. Perry has a long record of opposing the global warming nonsense as seen in any google search;
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20093535-503544.html

    Unlike the Newt factor Perry believes global warming is a hoax. Unlike Cain who would like to tax global warming with his new national sales tax 999, very conservative by the way, or perhaps selling it out to Libya, maybe Cain might be able to address his TARP support or his lack of interest in auditing the fed or his flap concerning abortion.

    Did I mention the Cain’s lack of foreign policy or his GITMO flap. Maybe Newt could help us out while he is on the couch with Pelosi maybe having yet another affair while running up those ethic violations. I suppose Cain’s sex train lawyer might be able to help Newt out as Newt might mandate the next lobbying efforts by Cain’s lobby firm NRA. Of course Cain migth argue that all black have been brain washed.

    Oh, what were we talking about. Was it Cain’s sex scandals or Newt mandates of crony capitalism.

    Let me guess, you will whole heartily defend your guys faults without eveb blinking an eye as to how serious those flaws are,

  • nathanalbright

    …and if you want Perry to have some press, sometimes you have to make your own commentary :B. Red State is good about encouraging that.

  • 98rsd

    Then it’s not science? Because global warming is a scientific issue and not a “philosophical” one.

    If your evidence against global warming is that it might lead to greater government spending, then your evidence is nonsense. I’m sure you’ll find an 8th grade teacher or a Liberty College professor who will back you up, but that’s not actually how science works in the real (as opposed to blog) world.

    I thought conservatives prided themselves on being realists. It sounds like you’re more of a wishful thinker.

  • gekster

    that causes others to ask why we don’t have an IQ test to post here.

    The question is not if global warming is real, it is if global warming is caused by man or not, and weather man can do anything to stop it.
    some think the Government can have an effect on it.

    10,000 years ago where I am sitting was under 2 miles of ice.
    It is obvious the ice is gone.
    Was it SUVs that caused it to go away, or was it just the natural ocurance of the earth/sun relationship.

    This might help to understand.
    Jupiter Gives a Prelude to Global Warming

  • 98rsd

    You didn’t say “man-made global warming”, nor did you imply that what you were talking about was the feasibility of implementing meaningful worldwide change. You just said global warming. And you’re not going to tell me that the Right hasn’t been arguing for years that there’s no such thing. I can’t be expected to keep straight what position which candidate has this week.

    Perhaps a logic or writing test should be substituted for the i.q. one “others” want.