Iran and Syria seek full scale war in Gaza


A very interesting dynamic is occurring in the undercurrent of the Gaza conflict. For most Americans it is simply an ongoing war between Israel and a Palestinian terrorist group. However, a proxy war has been long developing between, Egypt/Saudi Arabia and Iran/Syria, with the Palestinian and Israeli people caught in the middle.

Iran is exerting excessive force on Hamas to turn down any advances for an Egyptian brokered cease-fire with Israel. According to the Jerusalem Post, that Ali Larijani, Speaker of the Iranian Parliament, and Said Jalili of the Iranian Intelligence Service met with Hamas representatives in Dasmascus. Forewarning the Hamas envoys, that if they accepted any terms for a cessation of hostilities with Israel, Iran would forgo any funding and weapon supplies for their military operations against the Jews.

Iran has various interests in de-stabilizing the region by waging a proxy war against the United States and Israel, as noted by MEMRI (Middle East Media Research Institute) . They have been making an increasing effort to trigger a war between Israel and Hamas in order to draw world attention away from their fledgling nuclear program. Another reason is Tehran’s attempt to become the regions sole power broker, to the disadvantage of Arab countries in the region.

Syria, because of its isolation in the area, has gravitated towards assisting Iran in its venture. This seclusion has been brought on by Damascus’s refusal to end funding and training for terrorist organizations such as Hamas and Hizbollah. Their furthering of the Iranian agenda has strengthened ties between the two countries and their regional interests.

This alliance between Iran and Syria has created a major fracture between the somewhat pro-Western Arab countries such as Egypt and Saudi Arabi. Syria and Iran, on numerous occasions, have been accused, by the more moderate Arab countries, of interfering in the internal workings of areas such as Lebanon, Palestine, and Iraq. While Damascus and Tehran have accused Saudi Arabia of undermining resistance efforts by making conciliatory political moves with the West. Such as the November 2008 Interfaith Dialogue Conference in New York and Saudi attempts at normalizing relations with Tel Aviv.

Egypt entered into conflict with Hams over opening its borders to Palestinian pilgrims traveling to Mecca. Hamas had stopped the Palestinian travelers from reaching the Egyptian border and brought on criticism from Cairo. Egypt then stated that Hamas was doing more harm to the people of the Palestinian territories than Israel. They also layed blame on Syria and Iran for blocking peace in the region and promoting the Israeli-Palestinian conflict for their own gains. Syria and Iran both responded to this claim by calling for regime change in both Saudi Arabia and Egypt.

Although, there are many calls for a sustained cease fire between Hamas and Tel Aviv, because of Iranian and Syrian interference, this may prove to be an impossibility. Furthermore, ending hostilities between them might have greater and more disastrous ramifications, in the long run. By destroying Hamas, Israel would have eliminated one of Iran and Syria’s proxy trouble makers. This would further isolate Syria and Hizbollah consolidating their sphere of influence, as well as Iran, to a very limited area.

While diplomatic resolutions to the conflict seem to be the best way to save as many lives as possible, they have met with nothing but failure. Allowing this conflict to drag out will inevitably kill more civilians in the future. If Israel can fully press their military operations into Gaza, unhindered. They will be doing their populace, and the populace of Palestine, a great favor by putting an end to this ongoing feud. This would be the best chance of giving the Palestinian people a chance at governing themselves and not living under the rule of a gangster-state which answers directly to Damascus and Tehran.


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Israelis United on War as Censure Rises Abroad

izoneguy Tuesday, January 13th at 9:47AM EST (link)

Israelis United on War as Censure Rises Abroad

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/13/world/middleeast/13israel.html?_r=1&hp=&pagewanted=all

“We do feel bad about it, but we don’t feel guilty,” Mr. Jager added. “The most ethical moral imperative is for Israel to prevail in this conflict over an immoral Islamist philosophy. It is a zero sum conflict. That is what is not understood outside this country.”

“Hamas has pushed Israeli thinking back 30 years,” he said. “It has killed the peace camp.”

“ ‘Imagine,’ I tell a French reporter, ‘that every two days a missile falls in the Champs-Élysées and only the glass windows of the shops break and five people suffer from shock,’ ” Mr. Yehoshua told a reporter from Yediot Aharonot, a Tel Aviv newspaper. “ ‘What would you say? Wouldn’t you be angry? Wouldn’t you send missiles at Belgium if it were responsible for missiles on your grand boulevard?’ ”

“When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
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People are figuring it out

Critical_Thinker Tuesday, January 13th at 3:45PM EST (link)

The world is finally waking up. Massive peace accords, Jewish withdrawal from Gaza, elections in Palestine, and Hamas’s coup on the West Bank in 2007 are all factors that probably have contirbuted to this change in mindset.

It’s time Hamas is destroyed and then on to Hizbollah, who knows after that. (Hint hint, Iran.)

Bad laws are the worst sort of tyranny. -Sir Edmund Burke

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I only wish that were true...

AceInTX Tuesday, January 13th at 8:33PM EST (link)

but I don’t see it!

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Some people may be, but on the whole, people are horribly misinformed

JustLeaveMeAlone Wednesday, January 14th at 12:18AM EST (link)

Take a look at the rise in anti-Israel and anti-Jewish sentiment sweeping across Europe and even (I’m horrified to say) the USA. The only change of mindset I see is not for the better.

Temples are being firebombed and vandalized; huge protests by not only muslims but misinformed peaceniks are turning violent even on the streets of NYC.

In New York:

http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/2009/01/11/9-arrested-in-nyc-pro-palestinian-rally/

In London:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5bbdi01_EA

In Paris:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7824009.stm

And there is much, much more. But are you seeing it in the MSM?

It’s absolutely frightening. and I wish the USA would step up and do more to support our one true ally, Israel.

BTW, at the UN “human rights council”, which would more aptly be called the “permanent committee to condemn Israel”, ONE nation stood up for Israel — Canada. One. The US opposed the formation of the so-called human rights council and thus did not participate.

“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” Thomas Jefferson

Limited Euro support for Israel

Critical_Thinker Wednesday, January 14th at 12:29AM EST (link)

Just the fact that our Libtards have given the Israeli’s the green light to exterminate Hamas, although it is for political reasons, is a minor miracle.

Then there is this,

“Europe shocks Israel, backs Gaza invasion”

Link-http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=17916

No one is claiming the world all of a sudden had an epiphany. Just that some are waking up to the real problems (Iran & Syria) and their solutions (Proactive Israeli military response.)

Bad laws are the worst sort of tyranny. -Sir Edmund Burke

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I hope you are correct, but I'm not seeing that.

JustLeaveMeAlone Wednesday, January 14th at 12:54AM EST (link)

The story you cited was from January 4 and only mentions the Czechs. Since then, many European nations have seen massive anti-Israeli protests and rising violence among their own large muslim minority populations. Western Europe has remained silent.

On Monday, January 12, 33 nations voted against Israel at the UN Human Rights Council, with 13 abstentions, mainly from Western Europe:

http://www.unhchr.ch/huricane/huricane.nsf/view01/E430A7C54BF5F41CC125753C0050AACE?opendocument

http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/specialsession/9/resvote.htm

But I do think that some people here, who have been friendly to Israel but not necessarily informed or involved, have become much more sympathetic and committed to the Israeli cause because of this situation. I know I have.

“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” Thomas Jefferson

 
 
 
 
 

I think it's about time we just stop playing to the UN

AceInTX Tuesday, January 13th at 8:30PM EST (link)

Ally completely with Israel…tee it up and sweep the middle east from Syria all the way to the Persian gulf and beyond!

It’s time to drain the cesspool and shovel out the crap!

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Middle East Operation "Clean Sweep"

Critical_Thinker Tuesday, January 13th at 10:11PM EST (link)

Your point about cleansing the Middle East of terrorist organizations and gangster regimes is well taken. I am no where near a neo-con when it comes to preemption. But there is a point when you have to say enough is enough and do something. That point was reached about 20 years ago. Operation “Clean Sweep” needs to happen!

Bad laws are the worst sort of tyranny. -Sir Edmund Burke

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Well was using hyperbole...but there's a part of me that says do it

AceInTX Wednesday, January 14th at 12:51AM EST (link)

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I think it's time we toss The UN out of The USA.

Kenny Solomon Tuesday, January 13th at 10:25PM EST (link)

Maybe GWB grows a set on his last day and signs and exec order immediately stopping ALL funds for The UN with a simple one-sentence letter to them saying, “Dear U.N.: Get out, now. Sincerely, America.”

Kenny Solomon
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Offices throughout America (all 57 states).

Of course you can have my guns……. Bullets first.
I didn’t say rounds, shells or magazines…… I said bullets first.

Kenny, be warned.

Rod_Patrick Tuesday, January 13th at 11:30PM EST (link)

Removing UN from New York is dangerous.

It might land directly at the DC, right at the footsteps of WH.

World Government Patron/Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will be so happy.

OMG

AceInTX Wednesday, January 14th at 12:53AM EST (link)

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It might land in Berkley or Paris NT

OccamsRazor Wednesday, January 14th at 1:38AM EST (link)
 
 
 

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