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Our #2 vs. Their #1: Sarah Palin, Barack Obama and the Race For The Vice Presidency

Is Sarah Palin too inexperienced to be the Vice President? Is Obama?

I have been thinking for a while that I wanted to see Sarah Palin on the national ticket in 2012, but she wasn’t my first choice for VP – my long list of “don’ts” included a few strikes against her, and in the days before the rollout, I backed Eric Cantor and viewed Palin as too much of a rookie for the national ticket. Had Palin run in the GOP primaries, I would certainly have opposed her on grounds of being insufficiently experienced to head the national ticket, as I did with 1-term Governor Mitt Romney. So, what to make of her as McCain’s running mate?

I won’t say that I’m unconcerned by her inexperience on national security matters; we really do know precious little of her views on those issues. Her main national security responsibility is commanding the Alaska National Guard troops tasked with important functions in the missile defense system, and it’s a bit of a stretch to make that out as more than it is.

Palin will be inevitably compared to Barack Obama, given that so many of the criticisms leveled against Obama not only by Republicans but by fellow Democrats like Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden have focused on his inexperience. There are certainly some similarities between Palin and Obama (and more between Palin and Tim Kaine, one of the finalists for Obama’s running mate). But there are two very important distinctions between Palin and Obama.

Their #1 = Our #2

The first one is obvious: Obama is running for President, not Vice President. Given the vast gulf between McCain’s and Obama’s resumes, it’s clear that the issue of experience, accomplishment and qualification requires Obama to change the subject at every possible opportunity. And now he is changing it to compare himself to Sarah Palin.

Obama has now gotten himself sucked in to comparing the Democrats’ #1 to the Republicans’ #2:

“My understanding is that Gov. Palin’s town, Wassilla, has I think 50 employees. We’ve got 2500 in this campaign. I think their budget is maybe 12 million dollars a year – we have a budget of about three times that just for the month,” Obama responded.

In so doing, he is comparing apples to oranges comparing his campaign in 2008 to Palin’s record as Mayor of Wasilla in 1996-2002 back when Obama was just a State Senator, while completely ignoring her job as Governor. He is also, amusingly, claiming that he is qualified to be president based on…running for president. But even aside from that, the #1 vs #2 dynamic is precisely where McCain wants Obama:

“When they’re comparing our vice presidential candidate’s experience to their presidential candidate’s experience and John McCain is just flying above it all,” says one senior McCain adviser, “that’s a good place for us to be.”

The old saying we have heard in many a campaign is that the presidency is no place for on the job training; the vice presidency, by contrast, consists of little else. None of that is a reason to gamble on a complete cipher for the job. But that brings us to the second point: Palin’s qualifications are clearly superior to Obama’s because she is an executive.

“I’m In Charge Here”

The presidency is fundamentally an executive job – this is a major part of why I originally backed Rudy, and only by invoking both a very long (25 year) career in Congress and an equally long (27 year) career in the Navy was McCain able to overcome the usual presumption that the GOP would pick an executive like Romney, Rudy or Huckabee. Obama, by contrast, was blessed to run almost entirely against a field of other Senators – only Bill Richardson among the Democratic field had ever been a chief executive.

As I have explained before at length, there are five types of experience that are particularly useful in preparing for the presidency: executive experience, national security experience, political (especially political leadership) experience, military service, and private sector business experience. No one of these is essential, but national security and executive experience are the two most important, and if you can’t have anyone on the ticket who has done both, the next best thing is a ticket that combines an executive with a veteran national security hand – exactly what the GOP is running.

While Palin’s resume in major public office is, like Obama’s, relatively short, and her national security experience negligible at best, her experience is as a chief executive, the person to whom an entire state government reports, the person who gets the call when things go wrong, the person on whose desk the buck stops. The buck has never stopped with Barack Obama, or with Joe Biden for that matter. Obama has various bills he tries to take credit for (sometimes accurately), but he does not have the kind of record to run on that every governor has. We have had presidents before who were relatively short-tenured governors. Woodrow Wilson, for example, was elected with effectively the same resume as Palin – small-scale executive experience (his tenure as president of turn-of-the-century Princeton University is comparable to being mayor of a town of a few thousand people) followed by two years as a reformist, anti-machine governor. Wilson’s presidency may not be the best role model (I have noted before that the public had no way of knowing what kind of Commander-in-Chief Wilson would be) but he did turn out to be a highly effective leader both in domestic legislative battles and in commanding American troops; Wilson’s failings were more about his impractical ideas.

Obama’s lack of any of the kinds of relevant experience is really staggering, and not at all like Palin. Nobody with a resume like Obama’s has ever been elected president (Abe Lincoln, who had a relatively short resume as a legislator and to whom Al Gore audaciously compared Obama, had a good deal more private sector responsibility than Obama and had served in the military as a captain in the Black Hawk War. And Obama’s no Abe Lincoln).

That’s the difference between Palin as Governor and Obama as Senator. And the pattern repeats in their prior job experience. I regard Palin’s two three-year terms as Mayor of Wasilla, like Obama’s four two-year terms as State Senator from Hyde Park, as useful life experience (it helps to see how government interacts with the people at ground level) but not really a substitute for the necessary step of serving in major public office like being a Member of Congress or elected statewide as a Governor or Senator. But even then, Obama wasn’t the guy responsible for Hyde Park (he has since tried to make a point of his not having “clout” in the State Senate); he was never in a leadership position in his party and until his last term in the State Senate he was (just as in the first two years in the US Senate before he stopped showing up so he could run for President) a member of the minority party. If anything, Obama’s worked hard at avoiding being the guy who could be held responsible for anything that’s happened around him his entire career (his presidential campaign has involved a seemingly endless series events, up to and including this weekend’s barrage of attacks on Palin, in which Obama claims to have no responsibility for what his own subordinates do). Wasilla may be a small suburban town, but for two terms Sarah Palin was in charge of it. You would look long and hard for anything Barack Obama has been in charge of.

COMMENTS

  • Achance

    than I would – at either the state or federal level. Unless you’re leadership, the only thing you really do is try to keep your constituents happy and remember whether the Whip told you to push the red or green button. It is the rare legislator that writes, or could write, legislation; they take a bill that a staffer, consultant, constituent, or lobbyist wrote, walk it around, make a few changes to get co-sponsors maybe and submit it to leadership. Leadership carries the water and maybe, only maybe, the “author” gets to walk it around and do the chit sheet, though usually the Whip works the chit sheet. I’ve worked with lots of legislators who came into the Executive Branch; the learning curve is STEEP.

  • drjecdo

    The leftists have one defining characteristic: the absolute inability to recognize irony and hypocrisy in themselves, yet have the delusional talent of finding it where none exists. As evidence I put forth the “not qualified” meme. Compared to B. Hussein, Sarah Palin is freakin’ Margaret Thatcher.

  • gamecock

    to being president. Much more so that being in Congress in DC.

    not close

    And what matters most is what one learns from their experience.

    See all the experienced libs in DC.

    Would you really prefer Biden to Palin as president?

    If not, then most of your column is quite irrelevant.

    see mine and put it on the front page

    http://race42008.com/2008/08/29/thirty-five-years/

    Seriously Dan (put my 35 yrs column on the front page where it belongs!), you cover a lot of the conventional wisdom arguments in DC, but the real wisdom is out here in flyover.

    • Fallon

      I believe in poker it is called a “tell”.

      • simpson316

        The “B. Hussein” thing is highly frowned upon (and explicitly verboten) here at RedState. Continue using it and I’m certain that one of the moderators will revoke your posting privilege.

  • ggross56

    I wrote about this over the weekend. I’ll bet that people will compare her reform accomplishments with Obama’s speeches.

    This isn’t a good subject for Democrats.

  • Swamp_Yankee

    They turned our #2 into a major player. Now, we have two players on the mainstage. Two #1. That’s extra power on the stump. Obviously, Sarah, getting heavily prepped and will soon be unleashed.

    2′s do not get ovations like the one Sarah will get tommorow. For all you out there. You better come home with no voice. That place is going to erupt for Sarah tommorow. ERUPT. The media will be shook. I’ll be jumping up and down in my living room.

    Then John and Sarah can split and have double exposure on the trail while poor Biden is being tailed by a couple of reporters in some two horse town.

    • Swamp_Yankee

      how did my script get like that.

      • bk

        Why add that remark? Let’s leave it to the liberals to talk mockingly about small-town America.

        • truths

          …want to go down this road. That’s why Biden apparently said on C-SPAN today that Gov. Palin was qualified. He also stated that children should be off limits. The Obama campaign also likely knows that the longer this goes on the more sympathetic Palin becomes (and the sleaze highlights the double standard women politicians face).

          The Obama campaign wants to get back to glowing coverage of their #1, not this sleazefest melodrama in which Gov. Palin looks like a heroine for putting up with all of this crap and, of course, the media talking about her 24/7. The more the media reports on her, the more people will become interested in her and the last thing the Obama campaign wants is this election to become about her. They want it to be about Bush/Cheney.

          • MikeknaJ

            Nailed it, short and sweet.

            I just quoted you on my blog.

          • dmihailescu

            It is not about the girl, it is about bad parenting and silly defense of a lame mother!
            I am very troubled by the latest developments related especially with Palin?s teen daughter pregnancy. Despite the fact that no one in the campaign acknowledge it publicly, this is a very sticky issue for many conservative and independents.
            I am even more troubled by the positions some religious leaders have taken toward Palin?s teen pregnancy itself!
            They would only tarnish the maverick and independent stature for McCain by shilling too hard for Palin’s poor parenting record.
            Palin and these evangelicals are supposed to represent the new moral values for this country and the young generation. Instead the republican change theme becomes more like an abdication from the values that guided this party for decades.
            Just remember the Lynn Spears teen pregnancy outrage or how babies were removed from teen FLDS members just some months ago.
            Everyone was up in arms condemning those immoral acts, but today suddenly is not just OK, but also encouraged by the very same clergy.
            I am puzzled by the judgment and values of this kind of leaders and I definitely don?t want them as spiritual mentors or examples for my daughter.

          • drjecdo

            For future reference, what is the acceptable way to reference Barack Hussein Obama? Previous references on other posts/comments to Barack Hilton, Obama bin Biden, Big Brobama, The One, The Messiah, and “…Former Madrassah Student…” in the title of a new post made me think that using his actual name wouldn’t be a big deal. Is there an approved list somewhere?

          • Swamp_Yankee

            big city libs really have no clue about middle America. I love when they try yo fake it.

            go away carrie bradshaw an take your sex and the city guide to the world with you. Late teens have babies is not some scourge.

          • kyle8

            get a job

          • aaronbg

            …Bad parenting???…Seems her daughter made a mistake and then did the responsible thing and decided to keep the baby and marry the father. Seems to me her parents did well to instill in her that she has to be responsible for her actions. Nice try.

          • djfritz

            These people are real…Not untouchable cold hearted Washington politics as usual people. The American people can relate to them as many are going through the same things. Get a grip!!

          • drewbie323

            Just proves It’s Ok If You’re A Republican!

            This site is rampant with the self righteous hypocritical ideology of the right.

          • kyle8

            because no one expects them to have any personal morals to begin with.

  • Swamp_Yankee

    I feel like a little kid waiting with anticipation. I can hardly wait for tommorrow night. They moved Rudy in front of Palin. Is was clearly done to put Rudy in pit bull mode. I’m not a huge Rudy fan, but they guy can give a big time speech. He is going to crush Obama and the media and defend Palin and Palin is going to knock everyone’s socks off.

    • kyle8

      I like Rudy and would love to see him as AG. or just for funzies make him Press Secretary. I like to see David Gregory’s blood dripping from his teeth.

  • BookLover

    But, even if I didn’t like Governor Palin I wouldn’t trash her and pretend to be self rightous.

    First off dmihailescu, you are way off topic. Second, I well second I can’t say with any respect, but I am sure somene has a troll pic for you. Thirdly, judge not lest you be judged.

    Obama doesn’t have enough experience to be at the bottom of the ticket and it is fun to watch him panic as he realizes a lot of people are going to see his short comings very soon.

    • Teve_Torbes

      Why doesn’t Gov. Palin take a couple weeks to travel abroad, play hoops with the troops, have tea with Tony, and give a speech or two? That’s enough to negate any claims Obama has to superior foreign policy credentials.

      • blossombear

        The question Palin needs to answer is whether or not she encouraged her daughter to use contraceptives or did she just do the “just don’t do it routine.” Everyone wants to talk about how “brave” the kid and the mom are for having the kid, but braver and smarter than forcing a kid to have a kid at 17 and a shotgun wedding would have been to instill a safe sex message to prevent it from happening in the first place. This is important because it clarifies the nature of the “mistake” of the daughter. Was her mistake that she knew all along about the proper precautions and just got carried away or was the mistake the result of wilfull ignorance on her families part to pretend that abstience always works? That is, did mom tell her the ways to prevent pregnancy or did she just pretend that her little girl would never do the dirty?

        • sashpar

          But that brings us to the second point: Palin’s qualifications are clearly superior to Obama’s because she is an executive.

          • sashpar

            Lost my text from that.

            But that brings us to the second point: Palin’s qualifications are clearly superior to Obama’s because she is an executive.

            There lies quicksand. By that logics, Palin is more qualified than McCain.

          • sashpar

            Lost my text from that.

            But that brings us to the second point: Palin’s qualifications are clearly superior to Obama’s because she is an executive.

            There lies quicksand. By that logic, Palin is more qualified than McCain.

          • simpson316

            He commanded a boat. That takes some exec skills.

          • youngling

            with fewer than 3 horses too…

          • sashpar

            Lost my text from that.

            But that brings us to the second point: Palin’s qualifications are clearly superior to Obama’s because she is an executive.

            There lies quicksand. By that logic, Palin is more qualified than McCain.

          • franimal

            That’s what I’m wondering. Did SP know her daughter was having sex and forbid her to use birth control or did she say don’t have sex at all (i.e., take your chances w/ pregnancy and disease)? I saw a picture of the daughter holding her baby sister and she looked so lost and scared. Poor thing doesn’t need all this media.

          • Jaded

            she would indeed have more EXECUTIVE experience than any of the 3 men on the tickets however McCain has 100X the experience of either of the other two to be Commander in Chief….get with program or just don’t post!

          • youngling

            No one has said that Bristol Palin’s pregnancy is the ideal that we should strive for – no, what has been said is that when someone makes a mistake (sex before marriage is what I’m referring to, not the pregnancy), the correct action is to take responsibility for the consequences. There is no undo button for life – so instead of making ANOTHER mistake and taking an innocent human life through abortion, Bristol Palin made the correct decision – to have her baby. Ergo, there has not been even a hint of “it’s ok for Republicans but not Democrats,” there has been no hypocrisy in supporting Bristol’s decision – pay attention to what is actually said instead of relying on the preconceived notions you have about Republicans and conservatives and you might actually be able to make a point.

          • Dan_McLaughlin

            Like I said, I think executive experience was a missing ingredient from the McCain ticket, which she supplies. Although McCain did command a squadron in the Navy, which is nothing to sneeze at.

          • Martin_A_Knight

            I feel I need one just from reading it.

            You people are nothing more than ghouls.

          • Martin_A_Knight

            … to carry her baby to term and to marry her boyfriend is what?

            PS: Sarah Palin is in favor of contraception.

          • Jaded

            Drudge is reporting that our very own Fred Thompson is going to defend our very own Sarah Palin and take on the media…..now the reason I called you on over to read this is…..lets don’t address the trolls and let us watch our favorite conservative guy take apart the media the way he did in the primaries..

            screw em (trolls) they don’t deserve our attention…..they deserve waterboarding but our government doesn’t allow that :-)

          • JustLeaveMeAlone

            Good grief.

            NO ONE needs to inform the Free World what, how, and when they tell their children about sex.

            I mean, crime-in-Italy, this is still friggin’ America. You may mess with my newspapers, my money, my guns — but start forcing me to report what I say to my children about what is a PRIVATE and family matter, and it’s time for another revolution.

            Sarah? I hope you take a hockey stick to anyone who has the nerve and bad manners to ask you that.

          • simpson316
          • kyle8

            much less answer personal questions from the likes of you.

          • drewbie323

            Don’t make assumptions about me either “silly younling”. I’m no supporter of abortion. I think the use of it as birth control is wrong! I’ve been faced with having to make this decision myself (as an adult). We faced up to the consequences and now we have 6 year old TWINS!

            You’re as guilty of “preconceived notions” as you claim I am.

          • Moe_Lane

            Nothing personal, but we kind of get skeezed out by people who go after kids.

            Well, maybe it is something personal.

          • Flagstaff

            We DO have two #1′s, at least according to those who want to claim McCain has one foot in the grave and who therefore want to bring up Palin’s “inexperience.”

            Let’s treat them BOTH like rock stars. If elected this time, Sarah does have the potential to be elected later as “Mrs. President.”

            Just a bit more chatting up, and Palin’s speech on Wednesday could be bigger than BO’s.

          • youngling

            you charged hypocrisy against Republicans based on our support of the Palin’s. I said you were wrong and explained how the choices they have made line up with what Republicans say their values are. Hence, there has been no hypocrisy, and your charge of such is unfounded.

            And I never said you supported abortion.

          • youngling

            sashpar just didn’t read the line that says it may take a while for your post to show up, please don’t post again… annoying, but not intentional, I believe

  • jsteele

    I’ve followed this whole line of too inexperienced, too obscure, etc., etc., since Friday’s Palin announcement and have only one thing to say:

    Harry S. Truman.

    Former marginally successful haberdasher from Missouri, obscure Senator from Missouri, VP under the “Real Obama” Franklin D. Roosevelt.

  • birdmojo

    The Republican response to Biden was “hee hee hee, he picked Biden”.

    The Democratic response to Palin is some variant of “I CANNOT BELIVE THAT HE PICKED PALIN! OUTRAGE!”

    This means something.