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Gov. Palin Hits Back On Special Olympics Wisecrack

Mothers Do Get That Way About Their Children

By: Dan McLaughlin (Diary)  |  March 22nd, 2009 at 08:25 AM  | 

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She’s not taking it sitting down:

“This was a degrading remark about our world’s most precious and unique people, coming from the most powerful position in the world,” fumed former GOP veep pick and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, whose youngest son, Trig, has Down syndrome.

“These athletes overcome more challenges, discrimination and adversity than most of us ever will,” she added.

Obama’s better off sticking with his TelePrompter. They may individually be fairly petty things, but from this to his “lipstick on a pig” remark to his crack at Nancy Reagan to his choice of words against Hillary Clinton, to calling a female reporter “sweetie,” he seems to come off as something of a thoughtless boor when he’s unscripted. Which, if you were paying attention, is one thing nobody could ever accuse Sarah Palin of.

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  • Wubbies World

    … I do not see our Republican Leadership smart enough to take advantage of it. John Thune did it during his election against Daschle.

    You simply take clips of what the man says and run them end to end for 30 to 60 seconds as a campaign ad. Do not include anything else, except the final question on screen, in this case, “President of the United States?”

    At this rate we will be able to makes several commercials doing this. However, our Republicans currently holding office and leadership positions are too gutless to do it.

    …but this is just my opinion.

    • Dan McLaughlin

      Obama’s not on the ticket until 2012

      • Uber_Moose

        … there’s not much to go after from a political perspective. It was just a stupid comment that the public should be upset about, and he deserves to be criticized for it. There’s a larger issue though that the Republicans should be going after though, and that is why is the sitting President going on a late night comedy show in the first place? We should be hammering him for using the office of the Presidency to increase his celebrity status. Is he taking his job seriously, especially dealing with the “crisis” of the day?

  • manstreammedia

    I hope this would be incredibly effective. Of course, I think people (i.e. morons) are so incredibly O-bsessed that they would just defend his obvious speaking deficiencies.

    • investedinterest

      after Obama made these comments about the special Olympics…hmmm

  • reaganiterepublicanresistance

    There is of course a strategy of pre-emption afoot, with the MSM and online media such as HuffPo all going after Palin in a substained effort, as mysterious “leaks” from nobody/false rumors, persist. If Sarah Palin is so silly and irrelevant, why the obsession?

    Clearly the Left noted her appeal, and are out to eliminate the threat- and her treatment last Fall was pure character assasination. Liberals’ double-standard sexism is appalling; she’s “dumb” because she’s a happy and attractive Christian, who enjoys being a mother? Real feminists need to be angry, wear combat boots, no make-up, short hair, and live alone in a studio apartment in the East Village? She’s not the right kind of example because she doesn’t support affirmative action… but instead went out there and just kicked butt?

    Democrats are plenty afraid of Palin coming-back at them in 2012 with a dynamic and complementary VP like Bobby Jindal… or visa versa. And they have plenty of reason to fear her. Palin is the most popular governor in the country… are all those people idiots? Alaska was a pretty corrupt system until she stepped in. Her reforms took on entrenched politicians (inc. Republicans), a mafioso-style union boss, and Big Oil.

    Wouldn’t it have been nice if Obama had been principled and brave enough to confront the corrupt Chicago Democratic Machine? Or shady political operators like Tony Rezko? Racist preachers? Instead of doing business with every last one of them?

    So, the DNC’s friends will be discrediting Palin and claiming condescendingly that she is a “joke” for the next couple years- precisely because they know the opposite to be true. She has been highly successful in life while ignoring the left-wing feminist model… this helps to explain the extra dose of venom in the attacks.

    Go get em, Sarah- and don’t mind the press, nobody will be listening to them anymore after the pending Obamamania implosion.

    http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/2008/11/palinjindal-2012.html

  • gazill

    complain about/discuss the left and their ultra-sensitivity, and subsequent backlash, toward off-hand remarks made by normal people (conservatives). Now the tables are turned, and we sound similar to the left. I understand the hypocrisy, but this is the left we are dealing with; it is part of their makeup.

    More focus should be on the blatant (and apparently successful) effort by this administration to turn the public against CEOs (the “rich”), which sets the stage to enact legislation limiting compensation. All within 60 days. Add to that his call to have civilians go door to door, etc., I think the furor over his comparing his bowling skills to those less capable is more of a distraction to the real damage this man is doing. Not to be PinC, but it sounds as if his bowling skills exceed his nonteleprompter speaking skills.

    • Dan McLaughlin

      In the stretch run of a campaign, you need to focus your message. But we’re a long way from there. He needs to take on a lot of water before then.

  • sloeride

    As one who believes that a collective utopia is the path to salvation instead of being an individual pursuit, such an embarrassingly small off-hand comment is entirely expected. I agree the real offense is that the he made the comment, but he wholesale degradation of individuals is ok as long as it advances us towards the bounds of messianic despotism.

    Just remember, it 15% folks. Only 15% of Americans share Obama’s view on socialism or whatever else you want to call what it is he is attempting to do. Most of those those who support/supported him, don’t know him. It’s up to us to illuminate the majority to what is at stake. Now is the time for patriots who aren’t afraid to put their neck on the lines and speak out, regardless of ridicule. Our country is an amazing miracle. We can’t be afraid of explaining logic and reason.

    Love people, love capitalism. Everything else fails.

  • publiussteve

    Palin is right of course, but I’m sure the MSM will ignore/downplay this as they do with all of Obama’s insults, gaffes, and negatives.

  • wesley

    The folks that compete and support the special olympics are incredible people. Obama’s joke was in poor taste, but special olympian ability to overcome adversity many of us will never know should not be turned into politial football.

    • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

      It’s a shame that he has to be taught that actions have consequences, but hopefully he won’t need more than one lesson.

    • ocleverone

      Would it have been better to let the comment go? No. In many cases, silence equates acceptance…especially in situations such as this.

      I think those who spoke out about Obama’s lame, juevenile attempt at humor had every right to be outraged.

      Maybe Obama should learn not to lob political footballs if he doesn’t want to get tackled.

    • Justin_Case

      remark as one coming from the mother of a future Special Olympian.

      It was ok when the legitimacy of Trig Palin was called into question. That was not a political football because the question was posed by the left.

      When Carol Fowler, Chair of the Democratic Party in South Carolina, stated that Palin’s one qualification to be nominated Vice President was a result of not having an abortion, that was not a political football, either. These types of attacks are permissible when made by Democrats.

      When a mother becomes an advocate in order to protect the innocent, she should pipe down out of fear someone might take offense.

      Good for Sarah Palin.

      • ocleverone

        Yes?

        • Justin_Case

          I was being sarcastic.

  • http://www.clinefamily.us pcnnc

    I wonder if the press will latch on to this obvious stupid remark the way it did on Sen Allen’s gaff a couple years ago? That poor man was drumed out of Congress for one little gaff and yet out illustrious leader, Obama, seems to get a free pass. The media is still in the orgasmic plateau of an historical election and no one would dare question the “messiah”.

  • http://groups.yahoo.com/group/republican587/ Elizabeth Christian

    n/t

    • cube

      There’s a reason the word “gaffe” is in the dictionary. It was a mistake and any person who is honest would admit they might make a similar “joke.” This fact doesn’t justify or excuse what Obama said, but, in reality, this deserves little play and intellectually deserves none. Especially in a world where we don’t want a chilling effect on speech.

      I’m not making the hypocrite argument here. I’m simply stating a fact. People make those jokes and it was a slip. This argument will not have traction in an election because once everyone agrees it was a gaffe — a mistake without any malice towards anyone — then you can’t argue insidious motive. That’s absurd. As for Palin, the smartest thing she could have done was say nothing. The fallout would have happened without her having to do anything.

      And, the fallout is nothing as it should be. The Republicans have far bigger fish to fry than wasting its time with a non issue. You don’t travel down the road of parsing language like this. Not if you believe in the marketplace of ideas. The marketplace kicked The President’s comment to the curb, he apologized, and now its over.

      Folks who can evaluate this out of a political context, please, don’t get high and mighty. I thought everyone hated the P.C. police. Again, that does not excuse Obama, but get real.

      • cube

        It’s a TOTUS POTUS HOCUS POCUS.

        • cube

          could get a gold in a title event at the Special Olympics.

        • JadedByPolitics

          is no gaffe at all because in Obama’s eutopia as in Margaret Sanger’s Planned Parenthood’s and she an acolyte of Hitler and his eutopia begets that there are no Special Olympics because those with disiabilities are dead! so you callout a poster who is speaking about a great parent who is offended by this “gaffe” and I will call you out to spend some time educating yourself on socialist/marxist/communist eutopia’s and here is your first lesson learn it well he doesn’t give one wit about those children or adults why they should not be here at all!

          • cube

            See above comment re: Hitler and other BS.

          • $peciallist
          • JadedByPolitics

            The truth sucks for you liberal tools!

            However like my bumper sticker on my car says “patience liberals will abort themselves out of existence”!

          • cube

            All due respect, I’m looking for some cognizable point um… Jadedbypolitics, but, I’m really put off by your comment.

          • E Pluribus Unum

            Then perhaps a word from your only defender here might cheer you up. Don’t think you saw it.

            Well, I wouldn’t exactly call him you defender. Mainly the only one willing to tolerate your ever-growing pile of input here.

          • JadedByPolitics

            read anything I wrote I DESPISE “with all due respect” because NONE is forthcoming its BS…..my cognizant point is quite simple…..The Imitation Christ who would throw a baby in the trashcan having been born alive is no different than the PRIOR eutopians in history and his comment what telling because in his PERFECT world there would be NO SPECIAL OLYMPICS…..you don’t like it but the facts are the facts….he was the only vote FOR throwing babies in the garbage Margaret Sanger set up Planned Parenthoods in low income area’s….I bet you don’t know that because of Margaret and those who fight for her ABORTIONS that blacks now make up only 12 percent of the population of the USA when prior to Roe V Wade they made up 28 percent….NO YOU DO NOT CARE TO KNOW THAT.

            Planned Parenthood with the protection and support of The One made a billion dollars COLD HARD CASH on killing the innocent and unlike say Starbucks they are building many more killing centers BUT now their focus is on the Hispanic Community….it will be interesting to see in 40 years what their numbers have declined to just as they are on the precipe of being the majority in many states and I know YOU DON’T LIKE the Hitler name BUT Margaret was a Hitler acolyte….she just used a softer, gentler, rephrased method of murder. The liberal elites in this country LOVE Planned Parenthood they get rid of those nasty poor people they so despise.

            I find it hilarious that liberals have used class warfare against Republicans all these years with such success when it is so obvious to the lay person that those that care for the poor and the innocent are Conservatives, the Religious Right and yes the NeoConservative by freeing 50 million people NOT killing 50 million babies!

            The fact that you are putoff by my comment says the TRUTH HAS BEEN TOLD!

      • redware

        When you are the POTUS,your speech will be parsed most closely,as well it should.And for Obama to equate his challenged bowling score to those, faced daily by our Special Olympians,in and out of the alley,is perhaps indicative of more than just a gaffe-it represents a slap in the face to the dignity of the developmentally disabled.Having worked in the field for over 30 years,I assure you that the struggle to insure the rights of the disabled has not been an easy one.I guarantee that if Obama had talked about his low bowling scores and said something along the lines of “that’s just gay,man” ,the gay and lesbian community would be all over it,despite the fact that that phrase is commonly used by our youth to “diss’ everything.Palin was speaking up for a segment of our population that sometimes needs our help in making their needs known.It is possible that Obama needs some education as to the rights of the disabled to the same respect given to other high profile groups in this nation.If he really did respect them the “gaffe” wouldn’t have left his lips.Are there bigger fish to fry-yes.Simmer down?Maybe,but not until people realize the damage that can be done with careless remarks that perhaps reveal a deeper problem.

      • ocleverone

        as a gaffe, a joke that everybody makes, no harm no foul type of comment but to those millions of families with special needs members, it lets them know exactly where they stand with the POTUS.

        It was a crude remark whether intentional or not and shows a lack of comprehension of the challenges and joys that special needs CITIZENS face every day.

        It was callous and juevenile and unbecoming of the leader of the free world. It pretty much gives an idea where he will stand when it comes to issues facing special needs Americans and their families.

        You may dismiss it lightly but there are many of us that have taken note.

    • avgamerican

      So true. It is encouraging to know that there are fellow Americans like you that have captured the sentiment to describe what is happening today.

      • cube

        To argue there was some kind of harm done is absolutely bogus. This is some serious post hoc, biased, analysis I’m reading here.

        Get your head out of the sand. It is what it is. If it’s not a gaffe, what are you claiming? Obama intentionally discriminates against those with Special Needs? Are you re….. Incapable of sicking to basic argument? Of course it is a gaffe. To argue otherwise, as a few did upstairs, is absolutely mind numbing.

        You CANNOT BE SERIOUS? This. From the sanctum of free thought and the fighters against the thought police. What a shocker. Hypocrisy.

        For those who were smart enough not to respond to the argument concerning P.C., kudos. You are at least consistent in you logic. Those personalizing and emotionalizing the issue for that very purpose won’t get far in the land of reality or into making this an issue ever. Why? It isn’t one. You cannot conflate a mistake, which is what it was, into anything more.

        Good. Try to argue the absolute most intellectually bankrupt position ever. Obama had some malice. Or it was not a gaffe. Does you spinal cord not touch your brain stem? He made a mistake That’s all. No intent. None.

        Any argument beyond that diminished the credibility of what really is no argument. By trying to assign some a priori thought to the President is the most fallacious logic that can be used. It is intellectually dishonest. Further, what he said, in a variety of forms, are expressions (nice for not one person to respond to this) the marketplace of ideas examines and rejects.

        No one has addressed the counterintuitive reasoning here. Real issues need to be addressed. Not mistakes immediately aplogized for. Attack the substance of polices (or lack thereof). Not this bogus nonsense, intended to hurt no one, and a mistake. The conflation of this is exactly what most Republicans actually are not doing (I won’t paint with a broad stroke and simply cry hypocrisy). The conflation of this issue is antithetical to anyone claiming to be against P.C. and basic logic.

        This issue goes no where. Palin had an itchy trigger finger on the issue and she would have been wiser to step back and not make yet another intellectually bankrupt argument. She has no game or smarts.

        • ocleverone

          and it doesn’t negate the cavalier way it rolled off his tongue.

          The hypocrisy run rampant on the other side. Had this been a Republican that made that ridiculous comment, the left would have been burning him/her in effigy.

          Yet the party of inclusion, the party of warm fuzzies, can mock the most vulnerable and it is to be sloughed off.

          Dismissing Sarah Palin’s remarks as intellectually bankrupt only shows that 1) you have no clue as to the depth of the remarks made and 2) you have an utter lack of sensitivity to special needs children.

          You say Sarah Palin has an itchy trigger finger and I say you are trying hard to do damage control for Dear Leader.

          • cube

            Why don’t you read what I write before your mindless criticism. If you are on of those drones who cannot from a volitional cogent thought, scroll down to my previous statement I had to cut and paste b/c apparently, you did not read it.

            The title I wrote should speak volumes. Perhaps you need to reread what I’ve written. Please, if you’re going to attempt to debate me on an issue, have the courtesy and respect to read the argument — a conservative one btw.

            To quote me, “It was a mistake and any person who is honest would admit they might make a similar ?joke.? This fact doesn?t justify or excuse what Obama said, but, in reality, this deserves little play and intellectually deserves none.” To parse this (the best was Dr. Freud above) flies in the face of thought. He messed up. He apologized. And now the stupid Republicans fall into a trap. To argue it is anything beyond that is absurd and flies in the face of conservative thought.

            Your blatant attempt to completely contradict everything I’ve written won’t work either with your pithy title and analysis. Thankfully, there’s a record.

            We don’t analyze this speech once it’s been dispensed of because we don’t wan’t a chilling effect on others speech. Of course what Obama said was wrong. A gaffe. Of course there was no ill will. Even Moe above writes it was a “joke” he need to learn a lesson from and basically, once will hopefully be enough. Do you think Moe thinks this is anything more than a joke and stupid comment? Let’s see.

            I happen to be a big fan of Dr. Thompson. You know what’s missing? Honest journalism. Gonzo stuff. I wish Hunter were here. I’d take an hour with him over the invention of this bag of wind called the internet and that goes for every stinking blog on the planet. Blue State. Left Wing. Bird Wing. All of em. Finally, the young kids come through for him and he isn’t even here to see it.

          • cube

            the weird turn pro.” — Raoul Duke

          • cube

            So, based on the rules here, I must curb my enthusiasm, be respectful, us no profanity, or be banned. I’ve got no problems with the rules. This is your turf.

            The comments here are baseless tripe. I cannot write something is a “gaffe” or write an opinion without being basically accused of having some evil intent when it comes to The Special Olympics. Analysis against Palin’s tack gets mixed into a grab bag of rusty thumbtacks. Guffaw.

            Paint and conflate. That’s the game eh? Why can’t there just be a normal intellectual debate where every logical fallacy in the book comes out?

            I want to live in a world without fear of getting painted with a PC brush. Trust me. Let the invisible hand guide the speech. I listen to Rush everyday. I disagree with the guy everyday. I enjoy listening to him though. I even listen to this one fellow name Levin who is like Rush on crack.

            Just be honest. My position is very clear. There is no hypocrisy with me. True liberals in the context of speech are (guess what) LIBERAL in terms of allowing everything into the marketplace of ideas. Conservatives are this way as well because of their interpretation of the First Amendment and strict construction. I detest the PC police.

            Take your paintbrush to some other comment Picasso.

          • Justin_Case

            Obama on Leno have to do with the failure of Pravda and Izvestia to treat them in the same manner as they would had they been uttered by Trent Lott, Dick Cheney, James Watt, Earl Butz, Mark Foley, George Allen, Clarence Thomas, and others.

            The marketplace you refer to is controlled by Leftists who would like nothing more than to shut down any dissent such as what is broadcast on Talk radio.

            This is not about PC.

          • cube

            This certainly is a discussion of PC considering the discussion has spilled over into, um, society.

            This horse is at the glue factory and back already. Go look up the definition of the word, “mistake” or “gaffe.” When it becomes something more than that in the eyes of others, unfairly, one conflates a mistake and makes into more than what it was. A mistake. Not an atomic bomb.

            The PC issue are these people who aren’t honest about non-presidents talking this way. Further, it seems everyone in this thread has retreated from the concept of not wanting a chilling effect on our speech by mindless banter.

            The “left” gets criticized for this all the time. Trying to assess some moral culpability when it does not exist for a statement. There is a difference between a “stupid” comment and a “malicious” comment. To ignore that dichotomy is simply ignorant. Do I need to repeat this is not a justification or excuse? No. You folks can read.

            Simply, that some were offended, is not good. However, to try to assess any honest culpability to The President is asinine. Pick your leader before you pick this dumb fight. Why do you think even Moe wrote “joke.” Honest? What do you think? He wants the death and destruction of the mentally challenged or otherwise disabled folks?

            Maybe he does. Yes. I can imagine the President’s thoughts…

            “Those little bastards. Finally, I got my sentiments about the Special Olympics, for our Special friends, out for the world to see. In fact, what they don’t know is part of my Muslim culture is to hate on the Special Olympics.”

            Be honest. Is that not possible? There was no intent to disparage others. A slip of the tongue in an interview. BOO FRIGGIN’ HOO! Paint and conflate. Tis’ not even a flesh wound.

            Take a stand and try some intellectual honesty. Admit it was stupid, he apologized for it, but, this is no atomic bomb. To argue otherwise is simply inconsistent with the truth.

          • Justin_Case

            The news media does not treat “mistakes” in the same manner when a Republican makes one. See the names I listed previously.

            You refuse to acknowledge that this is the argument.

            Call them gaffes, jokes,mistakes all you want.

            There is a double standard. Why is that so hard for you to understand or admit?

          • cube

            Try responding to my arguments.

          • Justin_Case

            there is a double standard in news coverage nowadays.

          • cube

            I admit the news media is not my foundation for analyzing anything. I’ve previously written the media is in a “nanosecond news cycle.” My contention has nothing to do with the media, but, on my opinions regarding the marketplace of ideas and a chilling effect on writing.

            To say there is a double standard concerning the media would actually be wrong for a variety of reasons. There are no standards.

          • E Pluribus Unum

            You can’t admit that water is wet. You just try to lawyer your way out of it.

            The existence of a double-standard in print and broadcast media is so astoundingly pervasive that even a great percentage of the lefty media types admit it.

          • E Pluribus Unum

            (and I have my questions regarding that), you can’t go about lawyering (aka weaseling) your way out of conceding absolutely obvious points.

          • Justin_Case

            with the media, but a lot of posters in this forum CONTEND that there exists a double standard within the media regarding how gaffes are dealt with. The overwhelming contention in this thread is that Republicans do not get treated as well as Democrats.

            As for the marketplace of ideas to which you refer, I agree that it is a shame that gaffes or mistakes constantly intrude and take away from honest debate on important issues.

            However, politics tend towards superficial issues that are easily understood by an electorate that is in large part unsophisticated. I venture to say that gaffes in American politics have always had prominence and have swung many elections. Small fortunes are invested in opposition research by both major parties.

            In an ideal world we would all be understanding people who would cut a candidate or office holder some slack. That ain’t the way the world is.

            Therefore it is very important that gaffes or mistakes are reported fairly in the media. We know that they aren’t because of a double standard.

            Like most here, I can’t stand political correctness, but the real issue here is not PC. Instead, it is a lack of journalistic integrity that is very obvious to anyone who has a sense of fairness.

          • http://impudent.blognation.us/blog kyle8

            when it was Bush making a gaffe.

            No, it was always “the end of the world because we have a chimp as a president OMG!!!”

          • Martin Knight

            … he’d be having journalists and protestors camped out outside his house and following his children to school. He’d be the subject of the Sunday Morning news shows being denounced by liberal Beltway talking heads.

            He’d have the Left-Wing blogosphere calling for his resignation, his life under a microscope, and anything that could be creatively construed as “racist” “sexist” or “homophobic” would be deployed against him without shame or apology in the MSM, and it could as innocuous as him once taking a picture with Rush Limbaugh.

            In other words, “cube”, most of us here know without a doubt that this is really unimportant, a gaffe that means nothing from a guy who is lost when speaking sans his teleprompter, but we’ve seen our own hurt by gaffes less than half as offensive and just as meaningless – and the American people ate it up – believing the libel and slander because the talking heads repeated the talking points enough times to make it appear true to the barely engaged.

            Basically, we’re not taking the high road anymore – the American people actually don’t care about that. The other side lives in the gutter and American people didn’t mind – they rewarded them with massive enough majorities to fundamentally remake the nation with a quasi-socialist in the White House.

          • bs

            You took the words right out of my keyboard.

            So,

            5

          • cube

            Bub. Try sticking to beating my arguments before committing the logical fallacy of a hasty generalization and being unable to touch the merits of my arguments. Pigeonhole and paint

            Jeepers. You just can’t be my arguments because they are libertarian in nature, conservative in terms of speech, and the truth. My argument has nothing to do with what other people say.

            Further, I enjoy you slipping of the cliff. Schadenfreud.on wheels. Good. So, when you’re ready to deal with my contentions, spelled out ad nauseum above, step in the ring. Or, you can hold a bucket of spit for others and carry their water.

            Obviously I hit a nerve. That nerve is you can’t handle a consistent argument against parsing words and political correctness. Nor can any of you handle these arguments (foolishly admitted in the post I’m responding to) because you must FALLACIOUSLY ASSUME my contentions are like others. Why do you think everyone is suddenly lighting up this thread like a Christmas Tree?

            I’ll say it! Republicans have a hard time with this argument b/c they have made the very same ones in the past. When a person utters a word, makes a mistake, and it gets blown into something it ought not be, Republicans get mad. True liberals, in terms of speech, understand this and don’t parse words. The Supreme Court crosses ideological lines for this very reason. And I know, this is not a First Amendment issue, however, call this for what it is. A stupid mistake. And as it bleeds into society, it will not have a chilling effect on my speech, especially from those on the right who do not like their words on ice and are not forthright. The only person to label this as a bad joke to learn from is Moe.

          • bs

            it doesn’t matter. We will use it as a weapon as much as possible. I really don’t care if it was a mistake or not. That is irrelevant. It looks bad and we can use it against Obama.

            That’s all I need. Your bloviating is irrelevant.

          • cube

            honest. Fine. I appreciate that. More than you might realize. Take the Ancient Art approach. Of course you will “use it as weapon as much as possible … mistake or no … [because] it doesn’t matter.

            So, would you be willing to announce that as a universal maxim? Forward it to the GOP leader.

          • Martin Knight

            The Supreme Court? Christmas Trees? “Pidgeonhole and Paint?”

            Like I said, weird.

            PS: BR, is that you?

          • cube

            No cutting and pasting, but, I will confess to a weird stream. See the Raoul Duke quote.

            Paint and conflate. I just don’t like getting pigeonholed with a label that certainly does not fit me. I’m a situational ethics type of person. I have fiscally conservative views, am very hawkish on matters of the military, but am socially liberal. I am liberal when it comes to interpreting the First Amendment. I am cautious of “chilling effects” on speech. I do not like prior restraints.

            My point is, to argue this is anything other than this is a gaffe defies logic. For it not to be a gaffe (again, not an excuse or justification) one would have to argue some malicious intent from President Obama. Let’s just be on the up and up here. Malice ain’t there. He screwed up. Maybe big time in the eyes of some. Maybe the gaffe is MATERIAL. But, that’s all it is.

          • aarongardner

            The way I see it all his actions reflect portions of his character….and character matters.

            If this had been a singular event then your point would be much stronger…unfortunately it isn’t a singular even and your point falls rather flat.

            Oh and I am sur ethat Hunter would have lambasted any president for their stupid gaffes…that was part of his sensationalism. Of course he was on acid or ether half the time, so his arguments were interesting regardless of the subject matter’s actually relevancy.

          • cube

            Noticed a quote from Family Guy. On that, we can agree. If you saw last night’s episode, you might laugh. Something with Fred Savage really being Rush and Michale Moore.

            Ok. The amalgamation of gaffes can be utilized as a means of examining credibility. That’s a fair test to an extent. However, the better arguments are on policy, not gaffes.

            True gaffes, like this, are few and far between with Obama. The argument is his policy on the economy is a comedy of errors. I would think that’s the best argument. Not this tripe.

            As for Hunter, he contemplated killing himself once before he actually did it. He would be ripping everything. Honestly.

          • aarongardner

            We can all nit and pick bu the bottom line is Obama Biden is predictably gaffe prone….those gaffes are glimpses into character…character which then translates to policy….judging the man on the whole…character and policy…he is a joke.

            As for Hunter…I agree..too bad let himself become a nihilist.

          • Jack_Savage

            That’s as far as anyone really needs to read. You’ll never pin this guy down because he has no principles to draw from. Chasing unicorn farts is more productive. Just ask those who cary Obama’s water, like, say… cube.

          • silentcal40

            contacting me at silentcal40@yahoo.com? I know this is a strange request, but I’d like to let you know about something regarding one of your diaries. (You’ll understand once I am able to email you what it’s about.)

            Thanks a lot.

          • silentcal40

            contacting me at silentcal40@yahoo.com? I know this is a strange request, but I’d like to let you know about something regarding one of your diaries. (You’ll understand once I am able to email you what it’s about.)

            Thanks a lot.

          • http://impudent.blognation.us/blog kyle8

            is not even an argument. I am not aware that anyone ever said that it was NOT a mistake. You simply dismiss the comment that many people will be hurt (yes their feelings) by the comment.

            No, it’s not going to be a huge effect on the world, but it shows a lack of seriousness by this president who shouldn’t have been yuking it up on a tv show anyway.

            Live by the cult of personality, die by the cult of personality.

            No doubt you will point out what an ignoramus I am for not applying Aristotelian logic to your magnificent and unassailable wall of pure reason, but whatever, you sound fat.

        • Martin Knight

          Taking our cues from the man-god you worship; we can walk and chew gum at the same time.

          We actually can pound Obama on this and on the more important stuff you’re shrieking that we should be concentrating 100% on.

          Why don’t you embrace the healing power of “and” or go @#%! yourself? Either way is fine with most of us here.

          I mean, if this is really a waste of time on our parts, then it’s us wasting *our* time. How the hell does it concern you?

          • cube

            Is evidenced by the number of hits I generate.

          • $peciallist

            You are at the Wrong Blog..

          • cube

            Look at the inane arguments. When will the Real Republicans stand up and call this out for what it is? A stupid, insensitive, mistake not to parse and move on.

          • $peciallist

            chill out it’s the weekend

          • cube

            Freaking out isn’t this. I just have fast fingers. Freaking out would happen if they heard the song called “Special Olympics.”

            Warning: Explicit Lyrics

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IFUNIa2NU8

          • randy streu

            Had this been Bush, the media and the Dems (but I repeat myself) WOULD NOT let this go. You’re right. We did call foul when Dems acted this way toward Bush for simple mistakes like this one. And, really, nobody’s saying it’s anything other than a simple mistake.

            BUT THAT ISN’T THE POINT.

            The point is, that though we cried foul on it, it didn’t matter. The LEFT constantly picked and poked at any little, tiny error they could get their hands on. The POINT is that we are simply treating them in kind.

            Get it?

          • $peciallist

            where’s Neil and his ‘Whooosh’…lol

            and….Cube?…get yourself a Girlfriend…soon

          • cube

            Oh! This is the happy go lucky version of respectful dissent. Obviously, you are a role model for Red State and the “respect” noted at the bottom. Since we can apparently go down the “go perform an impossible act on yourself,” road… too easy. Also, I’m not sure how to couch my speech.

          • $peciallist

            lol

          • cube

            Thanks for listening last night BTW.

            Goodnight RED STATE. I’m off to conspire with on my radio show how to bury this issue under the rug and not address it directly.

          • Mike gamecock DeVine

            remember his insulting comments about why whites in PA and WVA and OHIO were voting for Hillary? Bitter Clingers to antipathy to people not like them (oh yeah, God and guns as well).

            Remember his refusal to support the Born Alive Infants Act?

          • cube

            I do remember you as a nice guy who called up once. Gaffes happen. Not as catchy as the bumper sticker Forrest came up with.

          • Mike gamecock DeVine
          • $peciallist

            speciallist, streetwise, Bush, Cheney, Rove……

          • Mike gamecock DeVine
          • $peciallist

            but seriously ..the news gets out so quick and through so many avenues now, anyone who wants to suppress news will have a difficult time doing it…great news!

          • Mike gamecock DeVine

            I told here that if it were bush, it would be frontpage and the only issue all weekend. She said she thought it was being played pretty well.

            She loves the NYT.

            I then told her today that the NYT had not run a story on it.

            Case closed

            Yes, she and everyone else in America knows the fit news not printed in NY.

          • http://impudent.blognation.us/blog kyle8

            That’s a disaster waiting to happen.

          • Mike gamecock DeVine

            I moved to Charlotte and we see each other 6 times per year!

          • paulincolo

            and I bet she converts to a conservative. She won’t need the mommy government anymore. Then again, being a capitalist, if you can get the milk for free….

          • Mike gamecock DeVine

            she also is rather low mainetenance

            also, she is frugal, doesn’t mind bombing people and is secretly pro-life

          • cube

            Hey! I saw their coverage. It was on page none.

          • Mike gamecock DeVine

            weeks later on page A21

          • Caleb

            You seem to have mixed up Redstate and Unusable Signal. We’re not so keen on the left wing arguments here, particularly when delivered in rapid-fire, contrarian, combative ways.

            I’m going to give you a chance, though, on account of I like you and your name is weird. So, stop now. Look at past blogs and comments at Redstate, such as anything written before your first day here, and get a feel for how it works.

            Hint 1: doesn’t work the way you think it does.
            Hint 2: “Oh this is how you deal with dissent” comments are the fastest path to banning outside of porn.
            Hint: 3: This is an instruction, not a suggestion.

            - c

          • cube

            Caleb,
            Just saw this. Ok. Instructions. I like those.

            It’s all good. What’s Unusable Signal? I know of an Unusual Signal.

            Anyhow, I’m glad to see so many kind responses to my thoughts on a gaffe. The best response was above “Mistake or not.” Do you have a link to the political cartoon piece you wrote?

  • Achance

    the page with the lenth of that title and the “nt” goes on the title line if you don’t have anything else to say.

    • Flagstaff
  • avgamerican

    A man who stated I quote, “Thats above my pay grade” in response to the question when does life begin? Well the Harvard graduate spoke and the sheep bowed….Obaaama Obaaama. They worshiped him as though he were a god. He s a man. A man that would rather see unborn children killed than be saved. That was his priority after three days in office. His next prioity in the first week was to issue the order for the closure of Gitmo and delegate the release of its inmates to a man whose law firm represented terrorists. But the sheep ignored the warnings and continued to worship the false god as he led them to their certain destruction. Unable to perceive their fate, the sheep continued to ignore their conscience and followed after their prince as he joined with enemies who sought their destruction. “We have established new dialogue” said the prince there is nothing to fear. The sheep were awed by his words and worshiped, Obaaama Obaaama. Then terror struck the sheep as they were over taken with the judgement brought upon them by their love of the prince.

  • avgamerican

    Its a revealing of inner character. Everything with this man is a performance, a campaign to give the sheep the most positive side of yourself. To empathize with their values. Who do you think was in the audience? Sheep. Post modernist sheep who could care less about anyone but themselves. And their leader was speaking with integrity because he was speaking to them, the sheep. So you see he doesn’t get a pass for the gaffe.

    • cube

      Let’s use your logic and assume arguendo “it’s more than a gaffe.”

      So what, Obama has malice towards those in the Special Olympics? What? He has hidden discriminatory bones when it comes to those with Down Syndrome? GET REAL.

      It’s an off color remark a lot of us have mad and know others who have. Just because someone says an act is “retarded” for example, does not mean anything more than calling something stupid. Not pent up hate and a desire to discriminate against those with mental retardation. He made a mistake, that’s it, no one here is Freud, you sound imbecilic.

      Stack the deck as you want, but the Mechanic’s grip, that I know.

      • JoeG

        “What? He has hidden discriminatory bones when it comes to those with Down Syndrome?”

        Yes, he wants them killed before they’re born. He views them as sub human. He considers it a travesty that someone made them live and didn’t do the “humane thing.”

      • redware

        of stupidity.Surely you realize that the word “retard” has been used for years as an epithet to describe people with developmental disabilities.It is as discriminatory against dsabled individuals as the terms “faggot”and a myriad of ethnic slurs are to the gay,black,brown,yellow,and white communities.Excuse Obama’s gaffe as innocent if you must,but do not dare to minimize its significance. Being mentally retarded does not equate with being stupid.I know far too many of the latter persuasion who test just fine on the standard IQ tests.

    • bs

      God help us if a serious emergency/disaster occurs, because this kind of screw-up, combined with his *laughing* about the economic situation on 60 Minutes, AND his addiction to the teleprompter, show us that he does not know how to do anything that hasn’t been carefully scripted for him. And even THEN (witness the video tape gift debacle) his handlers can’t even be trusted.

      This is a dangerous man and a dangerous administration, and his cavalier, careless demeanor is proof.

  • sherryoxycotinjohnston

    as the 2012 prez candidate! Obama won, overwhelmingly, the Jewish, black, Hispanic, Asian and youth vote. Bring it on, SP!

    • Achance
      • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

        Much more immediate gratification to post drive by comments in other sites.

        And it’d be sherryoxycontinjohnston. Sheesh, it doesn’t even rhyme the other way.

    • janis

      middle name. That stuff is horribly addictive, you know, and it eats up brain cells at a rapid pace, as evidenced by your inability to even spell it correctly.

      Obama is likely to lose a whole lot of votes, given his abysmal performance to date. As with you, I, too wouldn’t object at all to having Governor Palin as our candidate. Isn’t it nice when we agree on something?

      Run along home now, the loons are missing one of their members.