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Obama Asks Questions That Have Very Obvious Answers

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This is from Obama’s press conference yesterday:

President Barack Obama on Tuesday squared off with the insurance lobby over industry charges that a government health plan he backs would dismantle the employer coverage Americans have relied on for a half-century and overtake the system….

“If private insurers say that the marketplace provides the best quality health care … then why is it that the government, which they say can’t run anything, suddenly is going to drive them out of business?” Obama said in response to a question at a White House news conference.

“That’s not logical,” he scoffed, responding to an industry warning that government competition would destabilize the employer system that now covers more than 160 million people.

As usual when Obama has to respond to a serious criticism, he acts like a snarky left-wing blogger rather than a serious adult, throwing off a one-liner that seems to his die-hard supporters like a clever parody of Republican arguments but doesn’t stand up to even the most minimal of scrutiny.

Typically, it’s pointless to debate whether Obama is being astoundingly ignorant or deliberately mendacious; the point is that no sane person could defend his response. Daffyd offers a long list of screamingly obvious ways in which the private sector would be unable to compete with a government plan even though the government plan is inefficiently run, including the obvious-to-everyone-but-Obama fact that a profit-making enterprise has to make a profit, whereas a government agency or government-sponsored entity can afford to lose money pretty much indefinitely (Francis Cianfrocca points out to me that the proposed new healthcare GSE, which he refers to as the Consumer Health Management Corporation or “Charlie Mac,” would start with something on the order of $10 billion in capitalization, many multiples larger than the market cap of even large insurers, and with an endless credit line from Uncle Sam). There is even – you may know this, but presumably Obama does not – a whole body of antitrust law dedicated to preventing large companies in certain circumstances from driving competitors out of business by undercutting their prices to sell at a loss, then jacking prices up when the competition is dead and buried. Profit-making private entities don’t actually act like that very often, for obvious reasons: but governments can and do, at the taxpayer’s expense. As Phil Klein notes, one of the main arguments by supporters of the government plan is that it will use its vast size to obtain cost savings at the expense of health care providers (doctors, hospitals, drug companies, all of which are presumed to continue providing the same level of goods and services without regard to profit motive), cost savings that far smaller private insurers could not obtain. That’s an argument Obama himself has made repeatedly, yet he now professes ignorance of it. Because, of course, he retains at all times the confidence that nobody will ever call him on this sort of thing.

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  • duke

    This liberal mouthpiece is so wrong he’s come full-circle, like his “boomerang slice” on the golf course.

    Anyone who has private health insurance now, say a couple approaching retirement years, tell us all – including our pretend President – what happens when one of the two of you hits age 64 and becomes eligible for Medicare. Let me help you out here: The private insurance rates (to use the messiah’s favorite term) skyrocket. It’s called supply and demand.

    And after the feds have done such a bang-up job on their public-funded retirement plan all these years (Social Security), I guess it really isn’t logical to assume they’ed botch up federal health insurance too.

    One way or another this clown is determined to fulfill Michael Moore’s dream of getting America to the same health care standard as Cuba.

  • repub2012

    I don’t know if Redstate has open threads, but I actually just went to the front page to see, because I wanted to make exactly that point, although more out of curiosity, from the perspective of rhetorical effectiveness. Generally one does not want to put forth bold, snarky arguments that are very quickly, easily, and thoroughly refuted, unless one can count on people listening only to one’s message or that of one’s side of some matter, which is not an assumption that I think Obama could reliably make for most Americans following the debate on this issue.

    When Obama claimed emphatically and in that “don’t-listen-to-the-liars-and-don’t-get-your-little-mind-confused, just-listen-to-me, the-Truth-Teller” tone that no one who wants to keep his or her current health plan will lose it, “period”, didn’t he anticipate that many would realize on their own and many more would be told via the media and word of mouth that this simply wasn’t true, because employers could drop the current health plan and switch to the public plan, as many undoubtedly would.

    When Obama asked the rhetorical question you quote with that air of superior logic and sincerity, didn’t he anticipate that many would realize or soon learn that at least part of the answer is that the public plan could be competing with the advantage of taxpayer subsidies?

    I don’t know which is an odder prospect: that Obama and his team didn’t realize that their points were invalid (or at the very least misleading) or that they thought such a rhetorical approach — essentially a batting practice-level pitch over the middle of the plate — would be a good rhetorical approach, not only for this debate, but also considering the adverse impact on his credibility among much of the public (i.e., the mass of folks between those who think he’s God and those who think he’s Satan) for the duration of his presidency. When a guy essentially claims that anyone would have to be an idiot or a liar to disagree with him, and then it turns out that he was wrong in a way that most likely occurred to him (given his intelligence, resources, likely preparation, etc.), that leaves a lasting impression.

  • WylieJon

    …straight into the ground.

    It’s not that we believe they can’t run anything, it’s that we KNOW that they can’t run anything in an efficient manner.

  • George Claghorn
  • WarEagle01

    Obama is saying that critics of the public option are wrong because “they say” that government-run enterprises are inefficient and therefore an inefficient government-run health insurance company will present no challenge to privately-held efficient insurance companies. But apparently, he doesn’t buy into what “they say.” So, therefore, he must believe that such a government entity can be efficient and therefore can compete with private insurance companies. But if true, and given the unlimited resources of such an entity, isn’t that an even worse scenario for the private insurers? Isn’t a well-run organization with limitless funding an automatic death sentence to any “competitor” without the same level of resources? It seems like, no matter how one looks at it, this “public option” will signal the death of the US insurance industry. But then, I guess that’s their ultimate goal anyway.

  • http://brockwayfamily.spaces.live.com/ Erick Brockway

    One major problem on our nation’s highways is uninsured motorists who can’t afford auto insurance. Why not a public plan for that?
    Life insurance too, who’ll pay My Fair Share if I die before my VGLI kicks in? A public plan needed there too.
    The rising costs of natural disasters. Quick, before the next hurricane season, a public plan for homeowners insurance. If you live in New Orleans can you find affordable flood insurance?
    Crisis? What Crisis?

    • IJB

      …Limit automobile ownership over creating a gov’t run auto insurer, I’m afraid. :(

      • http://brockwayfamily.spaces.live.com/ Erick Brockway

        Ownership would be limited to Limo Liberals and illegal immigrants.

    • Common_Cents

      if auto insurance is mandatory why do i need uninsured or underinsured motorist coverage! Making something mandatory doesn’t mean everyone will get coverage.

      Geez, we’ll need to pay the government an insurance premium, then we’ll have to pay extra tax to pay others’ mandatory government insurance premium. And I’ll need an additional private insurance to get services the government won’t authorize for me.

  • 6eorge Jetson

    • Dan McLaughlin

      nt

  • johnt

    who needs efficiency? Obama gives just the sort of wise ass answer that we have come to expect from liberal clods, Just the sort of guff you can get nightly on the talk shows, painfully superficial but reassuring to a breed of people who have cut off the blood flow to their brains.

  • aesthete

    n/t

  • the_invisible_hand

    And of course the president is engaging in that timeless tactic of boiling complicated matters into slogans and talking points. It isn’t true, but it can’t be countered with a equally powerful slogan.

    This is our fundamental problem on health care. We are constantly on the defensive and we are right, but it takes a few minutes to explain why.

    No one respects or understands market economics in this country. We need to eliminate home-ec and shop classes and instead have a basic econ class for all kids.

  • waverider

    Of course, it’s possible a socialist big squeeze on intellectual property and patents on drug companies and other socialist strong arm tactics could bring about short term cost savings.

    But it never stops there with socialism, does it?

    Once the DC bureacrats kill and neuter the competition, and business innovation and new growth and treatments are all lost, never to be seen again, the unionists will loot everything, drive up costs and taxes and before you can say Chairman Mao your tax rates are back at 70% to pay for HIV drugs for needle exchange clients in South Central.

  • tanstaafl1019

    Pffft. Look at all of you and yer fancy-pants logical arguments. Don’t you know that conservatives are barely able to dress themselves, let alone speak (or write) intelligently on any topic of import?

    Unfortunately, a good portion of the voting public would listen to that quote and think, “Yeah! That doesn’t make any sense at all!” and go on with their lives.

    Remember this: Think about how stupid the average person is. Then realize, statistically, that half of them are more stupid than that.

    • Vegas_Rick

      Especially this part:

      “Think about how stupid the average person is. Then realize, statistically, that half of them are more stupid than that.”

      • izoneguy

        Where people would show how stupid they were and not even know it? And these were not set-up. Of course they were in Kalifornia where the average IQ is about 40 points less than the rest of America.

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