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NY-SEN: Kudlow vs. Schumer?

Can Chuck Schumer Be Beaten? There Is Only One Way To Find Out.

I’ve suspected for some time now that the California Senate race against Barbara Boxer was basically the high-watermark Senate race for the GOP – that is, the toughest race that has a non-trivial chance to be winnable if everything breaks just right. But the recent withdrawal of Evan Bayh from his own re-election race in Indiana (not as “safe” a seat as Boxer’s, given Indiana’s natural Republican tilt, but an entrenched incumbent with a $13 million warchest) is a reminder, as was Scott Brown’s victory in Massachusetts, that you really never know where your opportunities are until you press them.

The GOP in New York is already stretched fairly thin trying to fight a two-front war against what should be vulnerable candidates, Gov. David Paterson (who is basically doomed, but likely will be replaced as the Democratic nominee by the more formidable Attorney General Andrew Cuomo) and his Senate appointee, Kirsten Gillibrand (who should emerge successful from what nonetheless promises to be a vigorous challenge from former Tennessee Congressman Harold Ford). Former Long Island Congressman Rick Lazio is the leading contender to be Republican nominee in the Governor’s race, while the Senate field lacks even a candidate as mildly well-known as Lazio, assuming George Pataki resists entreaties to run.

Now, with polls showing the generally invulnerable-seeming Chuck Schumer bleeding popularity, Republicans may open a third front if they can talk longtime CNBC/National Review economics commentator Larry Kudlow into running.

Kudlow was previously mentioned as a possible Senate contender against Chris Dodd before the field lined up in Connecticut, but New Yorkers aren’t generally that picky about that sort of thing, at least in Senate races. Kudlow would lock up the Conservative Party nod, which always helps.

As the Daily News warns:

Schumer is a formidable opponent. While Wall Street might not be as happy with him as it once was, he still has managed to amass a whopping $19.3 million worth of campaign cash.

Also, the polls have been mixed on New Yorkers’ opinion of Schumer. A recent Q poll put his job approval rating at 58-30, while a Marist poll put him at just 47 percent – his lowest rating since April 2001.

Schumer is a relentless campaigner and, with the likely departure of Harry Reid, may end up running to be the leader of the Senate Democrats next spring. I can’t say I see a realistic path to beat him, from where we stand today, and Kudlow’s a political novice. That said, you gotta be in it to win it, as the saying goes; if something else comes out to drive Schumer down, you’d hate to not have a horse in the race. And even if Schumer does end up winning handily, if he’s forced to devote his time and money to running his own race instead of propping up Gillibrand and other Democrats around the country, Kudlow will have accomplished something.

COMMENTS

  • 10ksnooker

    This time around, cash may not be king. This election is shaping up a referendum on America, and it’s likely to go badly for the tyranny seekers.

    • Dan McLaughlin

      You need money to run, and lots of it.

      That said, I assume Kudlow will have plenty of money if he runs.

  • ilgop24

    Definitely an anti-government act

    • pilgrim

      http://www.redstate.com/patricia_c/2010/02/18/a-plane-crashes-into-7-story-office-building-in-texas/

  • joebgardener

    The man is a coke head. His drug use is legendary in certain circles. There are consistent rumors that he is still a druggie.

    Please….There are probably 100s….if not 1000s of better candidates in NY than Larry “Never Saw a Line I Didn’t Like” Kudlow.

    • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

      Tv shows. He has been the premiere TV economist for conservatism/supply side since he began as a regular on washington week in review in the 70s. I watch kudlow almost every business day, right bafter FNC’s special report. He would be a great GOP candidate in NY.

      • joebgardener

        ….would come so fast and thick it would be like somebody opened up Bill Clinton’s black book.

        Kudlow is a smart guy….that is exactly why there is no way on God’s Green Earth that he would subject himself to the glare of a NY Senate run. I don’t think he’s arrogant enough to think he could avoid the inevitable trainwreck of his past.

        • http://electionsanalysis.blog.com paint_it_red

          If you did not have a tagline advertising you keep “coming back after getting banned for trolling.”

    • redtillimdead

      So, go ahead, let the Democrats attack him on it. We’ll gladly return the favor. And no, there are not. The GOP is struggling to find a fourth-tier candidate to take on the unknown and unpopular Kirsten Gillibrand. They aren’t going to find one to take on the sorta popular extremely well-funded Schumer.

      • joebgardener

        The Dems did it…so it’s OK??

        We all know there is a MSM double standard. Do you honestly believe that the NY MSM will give Kudlow a pass on his past drug use.

        And FWIW….I wasn’t exaggerating when I used the word “legendary”.
        Kudlow was no recreational cocaine user….not that there is such a thing.

        And there are still rumors that he continues to dabble….probably not true…but since when does that matter to the MSM??

        Kudlow would be a disaster candidate.

        • http://hillbillypolitics.com Steph C
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    • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens
  • Darin_H

    Unlike other novices, he has been speaking for years on at least economics, which this election will be a referendum.

  • Adjoran

    in the ’80s. He got treatment and I no of NO reports of any relapse until the unsubstantiated accusations on this thread.

    It cost him the potential to be a prime economic adviser to Republican Presidents Bush, as it would have been the main Democratic topic at confirmation hearings, without doubt.

    The bar is a bit lower for the Senate. Besotted fools constitute a clear bipartisan majority in that body. Larry would need to relapse to fit in.

  • wolfster38

    I love this video

  • http://www.neoavatara.com/blog neoavatara

    Why wouldn’t he run against Gillibrand? Isn’t she the weaker of the two? Take what you can get…

    • IJB

      FWIW, I hope both Zuckerman and Kudlow do run (presuming that Pataki doesn’t).

      Zuckerman isn’t even “my kind” of Republican, but I’d far rather have him and Kudlow (both of whom know something about economics, and the former of whom who also knows something about foreign policy) than Gillibrand and esp. Schumer!

      • Dan McLaughlin

        and Kudlow may be relishing the debate with Schumer as much as the race itself.

        That is, if that’s what he decides to do.

      • proudgop

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJeqWCDZnHA&feature=player_embedded

        you mean we can beat this woman? She comes off as such a twit. She can be beat we need Pataki or someone with a lot money I don’t think Zuckerman is the man.

      • realskinny

        He supported and voted for Obama. He was on Fox just last week lamenting how disappointed he was in BO.

  • http://jakespeaks.wordpress.com/ Jake W

    …but I sure as heck am willing to find out if he can. I hope Kudlow will give him a run. Ideologically, he’s probably the best New York State can give us.

  • http://thesandsinstitute.org Vassar Bushmills

    He likes Kudlow, and thinks this could be the coup de guerre. Why he likes it is that he thinks Red State can affect the outcome of this campaign more than the others. Somethingto think about.

    St George

  • phreshone

    Newt, DeMint, Sessions, Kudlow, Pataki, Guiliani….

    No one leaves until 2 of the 3 New Yorkers are running for the two NY Senate seats (or finds a comparable candidate to draft)

  • http://electionsanalysis.blog.com paint_it_red

    While even a RINO would be preferable to Schumer, I think Kudlow would actually be a great Senator and a solid Republican. The guy understands economics. Given the mess this country is in with deficit spending, an unbalanced budget, and a counterproductive tax code, we could use more like him.

    • Doc Holliday

      problem is, New York would probably not elect him, and even if they did he would not win.

  • nvrepub

    A good mod is like a traffic cop – staying in the distance; interjecting themselves as little as necessary, and certainly not seeming to relish their job quite so much.

    • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

      It might occur to you that we keep the site safe for our great commenters and diarists *by* banning with gusto.

      • MNConservative

        It’s a feature!

        Thanks for all your hard work and diligence Neil!

  • nvrepub

    A good mod is like a traffic cop – staying in the distance; interjecting themselves as little as necessary, and certainly not seeming to relish their job quite so much.

    • SteveLA

      Keeping the riff-raf in check gives site Moderators something to do besides watching day time TV shows.

      I kid Neil I kid….. :)

      • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

        I can only watch so many ads for Disability Lawyers, Technical Trade Schools, and Medicare Supplemental Insurance.

        • SteveLA

          I listen to XM 175 most days I am off, and besides pitchers and catchers are reporting this week.

          Dodgers aren’t going to do very well this year sadly, not Padres or Pittsburgh bad, but divorce blues bad.

          • http://impudent.blognation.us/blog kyle8

            I listen to the Joint and Bluesville when I am not listening to Fox news or ESPN

          • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

            Best thing we can root for is for is for the divorce to hinder Ned’s buying of old guys on the decline

          • SteveLA

            Beside Ned is still paying off Schmidt and Tubby Andruw….aggggg.

          • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

            When we were paying Kevin Brown 100 mil and Darren Dreifort 50 mil not to pitch.

    • bs

      take them to the Contact link at the top of the page. Stop threadjacking.

  • renny

    at winning is ok by me. And I’d rather have real business people or working ec.’s as opposed to professors in any position in DC.

    Schumer has money but also an enormous arrogance problem. He has been riding high since chairing the Sen. election committee where he helped create the nearly unstoppable majority we face there. But he goofed with Gillibrand, got terrible press for dissing a stewardess, would make Reid look like a leader for the ages as majority leader, and is not really beloved of any group or interest. He could well go down.

  • nvrepub

    That’s one thing I’ve noticed about this site; interesting discourse often becomes sidetracked by a discussion on banning, and then a moderator indeed bans with gusto. It’s a distraction and it’s not what a site should be all about.

    • DONTREADONME

      I mean seriously, are you looking to get banned yourself for continuously distracting everyone?

    • penguin2

      The site rules and expectations are laid out nicely. Just make reasonable, factual arguments, back them up and be respectful to whoever you are engaged in discourse with. What may seem “interesting” may be disintegration of civil discourse, or blatant disregard of the house rules. There are a “few” off limits topics, like advocating third parties, or being a leftist here to argue with us, and more recently, “birthers” and “truthers” are in the same no, no, ball park.

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    • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

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  • http://impudent.blognation.us/blog kyle8

    He would be the most Reaganesk candidate we have seen in a long time. I am talking about his boundless optimism.

    That is something we could use right about now.

    • proudgop

      Sorry, as New Yorkers I’d love to get ride of him but its so doubtful. Kudlow is smart guy I don’t think he would appeal to New Yorkers. JMO but I always thought he came off a bit snotty.

      • http://impudent.blognation.us/blog kyle8

        If you watch his show a lot like I do, you get the impression that he is truly a nice guy, and always tries tot look at the brighter side of every situation.

        • proudgop

          I am not saying he is not nice; I am just saying I don’t think he would come off well in upstate NY. I don’t think blue collar voters upstate could relate to him on just imagery factor. He looks like Manhattan guy ( I live in Manhattan) who probably never leaves the island like a lot of us. Problem is no Republican will ever win NYC on federal level so you need big wins on long Island and Upstate too off shoot it and I don’t see him playing well there. I hope I am wrong though

          • peg_c

            I like and respect him, his radio show is great, and I’d give a limb to get rid of Schmucky!

            I think we defeat ourselves by stating that no Republican can win in NYC on a federal level. NYC is tough, but this is our Perfect Storm year. We have to go for the gold every single where!!

            Also, the Dem vote absolutely will be depressed this year even allowing for ACORN/SEIU machinations. Heck, Dems are borderline suicidal. Let’s encourage that.

          • morstar150

            I think you underestimate upstate New Yorkers.

  • dudette

    to run–having to run the gauntlet of gossip and rumors and trumped up LSM reports of whateer—I love the guy, I am in NY and I will vote for him as often as ACORN will let me. I will give him $. I think he is much more apealing than that greaseball mollusk Schumer. And Larry has friends everywhere…He also has face and name recognition from his radio and TV shows. I hope he runs, it will be a huge sacrifice, and an act of patriotism to run….

  • chabsentia

    What makes anybody think that the econmics qualfications of Kudlow is an asset? Seventy five percent of the people dont know what caused te present economics disall was aster. For the first time in history we have seen the bursting of three bubbles at once. From 1982 to 2000 the Stock Market went up ten fold while incomes only went up three fold. Then there were the Housing and Credit bubbles which started in the 90s and whose tipping point was reached in 1999 when Glass Steagall was repealed and the Community reinvestment act which forced Banks to loan money to low income individuals was revived under Clinton. Anytime that a perceived value greatly exceeds the economic values that underly it them you are going to have a bubble such as the Dot , Com buuble and the Tulip craze etc. This time we had three at once.

  • leehazel

    Chuck Schumer must be tagged (as in belling the cat) with his part in the collapse of the US Financial system. One that began almost simultaneously with Schumer’s public exposure of the dire situation of the bank IndMac.

    The immediate run on that bank along with a general outflow of cash set the stage for panic across the entire finacial community. There are factors of timing vis a vis the election, and unanswered questions involving what appeared to be “orchestrated” bank runs that have not been satisfactorily investigated.

    I don’t believe there has even been any attempt to investigate.

    Anyway Schumer was a “player”. It is time to “Pay Up”.

    Good Bye Chuck
    PC is Thought Control
    LEE

  • realskinny

    How can anyone have any respect for New Yorkers when half of them approve of Scummer. Seriously, this guy is such an obvious lowlife. The pompous, condescending arrogance. Anyone making a mob picture should approach him about playing the corrupt mouthpiece. He is perfectly typecast for such a part.

  • nymiracle

    I am another upstate New Yorker excited to vote for Kudlow if he runs. I sorta see what you mean about him seeming like a Manhattanite BUT people are fed up with Schumer and Dems in general!!! I attended a tea party back in April with over 3,000 people in our little community. The movement across the state has only grown since then!
    New York can have it’s own Miracle just like Mass. did!!!!!!!!!!!

  • morstar150

    It’s not like Rick Lazio actually ran a great campaign against Hillary from Katona.