Desperation from the White House on Health Reform: the DNC Targets Democrats with TV Ads


WE INTERRUPT THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED WAR BETWEEN THE REPUBLICANS AND THE DEMOCRATS TO BRING YOU MORE DEMOCRAT ON DEMOCRAT POLITICAL VIOLENCE. RECENT TRENDS POINT TO INCREASED INCIDENTS AND INTENSITY OF SUCH VIOLENCE. GENERALS DEAN AND OBAMA HAVE BEEN QUOTED AS SAYING THAT NO COST IS TOO HIGH TO ACHIEVE VICTORY IN THE HEALTH CARE WAR AND FRIENDLY FIRE CAUSALITIES ARE A UNFORTUNATE BUT NECESSARY COST OF BATTLE.

Once you’ve wrapped your mind around that piece of news, you should know that the DEM on DEM TV ATTACKS are not being carried out by just the DNC. RollCall reports that President Obama’s campaign operation turned advocacy group is also running attack ads against their own party members.

PRESIDENT OBAMA’S COMPLETE AGREEMENT WITH MOVEON.ORG ON THE GOVERNMENT PLAN OPTION EXTENDS ALSO TO ATTACKING HIS OWN PARTY MEMBERS, JUST AS THE MOVEON.ORG TV ADS ATTACKED DEMOCRATS.

Pure and simple, it’s desperation.

Is it any wonder that the New York Times is reporting today that “Democrats Grow Wary as Health Bill Advances.”

Via Politico, the details of the Dean’s Dem on Dem violence:

The Democratic National Committee’s Organizing for America Arm — criticized by Harry Reid yesterday for an ad pressuring Senate Democrats on health care — has launched a similar effort in the House.

A version of the same ad, in which citizens recount their families’ health care woes and declare that “it’s time” for reform, will be running in 15 media markets around the country.

The ad doesn’t say this, but a look at the media markets indicates that the White House political operation hasn’t backed off targeting Democrats — and indeed, has stepped up that program. The ad will appear in 15 markets, all of them within districts of members of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, the key body for a health care bill. All 15 are occupied by members seen as swing voters inside the committee, and 12 of those 15 members are Democrats.

The markets where the ad will run, according to the DNC press release, are: Savannah, Palm Springs, Seattle, Nashville, Bloomington, Sacramento, Salt Lake City, New Orleans, Pittsburgh, Charlotte, Little Rock, Columbus, Marquette, Grand Rapids and Medford.

Here is a radical suggestion: Change the bill to attract broad support — but pride and arrogance of the White House, Speaker Pelosi and Chairman Waxman cannot permit it.

Now, what was that saying about some kind of fall?

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Roll Call Link Is Subscription

Swamp_Yankee Saturday, July 18th at 3:50PM EDT (link)

Poltico has an article with the names.

The ad sucks too. I guess suckiness is contagious. It seemed they could do no wrong last year, now they cant even make good ads.

 

Ah, a little "Green on Green"

nessa Saturday, July 18th at 4:43PM EDT (link)

sit back and enjoy the show!

“If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Contributor to The Minority Report

Exactly,

Dan Perrin Saturday, July 18th at 6:51PM EDT (link)

Get a lawn chair and a cold one.

 
 

Ah, a little "Green on Green"

nessa Saturday, July 18th at 4:43PM EDT (link)

sit back and enjoy the show!

“If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Contributor to The Minority Report

 

Fratricide!

BlueStateSaint Saturday, July 18th at 4:48PM EDT (link)

Ya gotta love it! Thing is, the Obamination’s ads for the health care takeover are going to get buried by the volume of voters who are finally waking up and smelling the coffee.

DEM on DEM

Dan Perrin Saturday, July 18th at 6:52PM EDT (link)

FRAGGING

 
 

Desperation in health reform

tomllewis Saturday, July 18th at 5:12PM EDT (link)

Let’s hope this is just the beginning of the end of Obama’s teflon. Oh wait, Hope is what got us in the mess in the first place.

tomllewis

The real question is if you are a Blue Dog

Dan Perrin Saturday, July 18th at 6:53PM EDT (link)

do you roll over and sit up like a good doggie, or do you hunch back, bark, bare your teeth and bite back?

If they want to get reelected

SteveLA Saturday, July 18th at 7:11PM EDT (link)

Blue Dogs; growl a bit, snap a bit at the Obamamaster, then vote like good little Donks if they know what’s good for them according to the DNC. Nasty Nancy will threaten to come campaign for them in their home districts like an uninvited house guest if they don’t toe the line.

In many districts the Blue Dogs won by pretending to be conservative on many issues that people cared about but still as real Democrats. Eroding support for the Obamamaster will not play in areas were the shine is wearing off of “Hope and Change”, but DNC dollars will keep them on the reservation in my view.

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Competency over ideological purity

I'll Take The Under

IJB Saturday, July 18th at 8:18PM EDT (link)

Getting elected is more important than DNC money - if the Blue Dogs feel there is a legitimate shot that they’ll lose next year if they vote for this bill, they’ll vote against it.

I’m still of the opinion that this bill will never even get to the Senate, as it will either lose on the floor of the House, or will get pulled if the leadership realizes they’ll lose the vote.

I just don’t see what’s in it for a so-called ‘Blue Dog’ to vote for this. Heck, it’s bad enough than some *non*-Blue Dogs may end up voting against it!

 
 
 
 

Maybe This Will End Up Like The 2nd Crusade

Repair_Man_Jack Saturday, July 18th at 5:23PM EDT (link)

“Kill them all. God will find his own!”

Hope is not a plan. Change is not always good.

How do you get them to play ball now?

Dan Perrin Saturday, July 18th at 6:55PM EDT (link)

Who will be the one to crack?

Since the normal inducements of bridges and goodies are not working, they are going to this, now?

DESPERATE

Every Ear Has Been Marked....<nt>

Repair_Man_Jack Saturday, July 18th at 9:24PM EDT (link)

Hope is not a plan. Change is not always good.

 
 
 

The sow pigs will eat their own piglets so you must help them pig out

bobojake Saturday, July 18th at 5:37PM EDT (link)

The democrat pig mentality is kicking in. This will be fun to watch the democrat eat their own.
hehehehe

 

They should be scared because this is not a D or R issue...

JadedByPolitics Saturday, July 18th at 5:49PM EDT (link)

this is an American issue and those bills as written effect the 87 percent who are covered of which 83 percent like their insurance for 13 percent of the population….so they are RUINING EVERYONE’S insurance for a select few and nothing tees up all American’s like trying to give away the farm for one cow! These bills as written are written for and by the HARDCORE LEFT and the majority of American’s are not that far left!

Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy

Very satisfying...

roscopico Saturday, July 18th at 6:05PM EDT (link)

and nothing makes people madder than handouts to people who won’t lift a finger to help themselves.
The solution to the healthcare “crisis” might lie more in the direction of less government interference.
Watching the drats fire at their own will certainly lift my mood.

Im Himmel gibt’s kein Bier…

 

The Blue Dogs holding out in

Dan Perrin Saturday, July 18th at 6:59PM EDT (link)

are courageous and heroic.

Dan, the Blue Dogs holding out are not necessarily

janis Saturday, July 18th at 7:57PM EDT (link)

anything but stuck between a rock and a hard place. Their voters are conservative, but their leadership is radically lib. What will they do, what will they do……

Mostly I hope they lose lots of sleep, lots of hair and get ulcers. If they presented themselves as conservatives, then they should act like it. If they don’t vote the way their constituents want them to, they get what they deserve. On the other hand, if they don’t vote as Nasty Nancy and Dingy Harry want them to, they risk the wrath of those gentle spirits at MoveOn.org and Company. Gee, I’m crying in my beer for the poor guys…….

 
 
 

Shifting the debate from universal coverage to universal affordability

waltsfour Saturday, July 18th at 6:14PM EDT (link)

I feel that the current moves by Republicans have been defensive. They have tried to block the legislation with the arguments of deficits and taxes. This may work, however, a real victory requires changing the debate. Socialism is progressive, no pun intended. It is far easier to create a government program than to end it. I feel that unless the debate is shifted and subsequently won, the United States will eventually have a nationalized health care.

To shift the debate away from creating universal coverage to universal feasibility. A new Rasmussen poll shows that most Americans are concerned over health care costs and are not concerned re: health care costs. Conservatives have to take up the fight to push health care reforms that would reduce private health care costs. If private costs are reduced, and health care financial feasibility increased, the wind will be taken out of the sails for nationalized health care.

I recognize that some of these reforms are more popular than others, but I wish there would be more of an education campaign regarding the potential effectiveness re: these reforms.

1) mal-practice liability reform;

2) purchase of insurance across state lines or reduction of insurance plan mandates, which cause significant price discrepancies between states;

3) encourage consumer awareness re: costs at different medical providers and encourage plans which will have consumers pay costs up front (such as through a deductible) with a lower premium. Such a change would encourage competition between health care providers, a factor which currently does not exist.

4) allow importation of prescription drugs;

5) increase the reimbursement rates for Medicaid so that Medicaid providers will not shift costs over to private payers;

6) eliminate the tax deduction for employer health care benefits. (This step would hopefully end employer-sponsored health care, allowing for a merging of the hundreds of current health care plans, thereby saving costs, and by creating larger risk pools, since working individual, in the prime of his/her life, is often healthier and less expensive. Employer insurance removes these individuals from the risk pool and thereby increases the premium costs for individuals who pay out of pocket).

jt

JT - These are frightfully good ideas

lthurwitz Saturday, July 18th at 6:44PM EDT (link)

I have a daughter who has been out of work and can no longer afford COBRA coverage from her previous policy. I’m helping her out. She’s healthy but wants to go without coverage. There needs to be a plan that is affordable but with a very high deductible for catastrophic health issues, and covers checkups and life sustaining drug coverage. That is a universal plan I would support. That would leave room for private plans to cover the so called doughnut hole in costs - say between 5k and 35k from more common health issues, but would also keep working or hard hit families from losing everything including their small businesses if there is a catastrophoc event. To me that is proper role of government. I know it’s a safety net but it is one for American strength. It also would allow small business to get out from under the unfair advantages held by other nations.

my 2 cents.

Catastrophic coverage

waltsfour Saturday, July 18th at 9:37PM EDT (link)

Currently, the government does provide Medicaid, which has an element of catastrophic coverage. If a person is found “medically necessary” and if they “spend down” their resources (namely, pay their medical bills) to a certain level, Medicaid will kick in and pay the rest. Two current problems with the system: 1) the administratively adjudicating someone as Medically necessary takes time; 2) a person must spend through almost all of their assets and become indigent. One could improve the program by simplifying the eligibility guidelines for a “medically necessary” individual and allow for more asset protection.

One problem with government safety nets is their potential to grow. The reason why Medicaid is based on categorical eligibility (one must be a child, pregnant, parent, medically necessary, elderly) and financial eligibility is that if the only criteria were financial, the constant question would be where does one draw the line. If one creates a safety net with a doughnut hole, there will be constant pressure to close that hole.

I personally pay out of pocket for my health insurance. My health insurance plan consists of a low premium with a high deductible. So far, I have not made use of the deductible, I essentially keep it as a catastrophic insurance. The last time I was sick I went to the Minute Clinic at the local CVS Pharmacy. I was attended after a 30 minute wait and I paid $20 dollars out-of-pocket. Maybe a similar plan would work for your daughter. Best of wishes.

jt

 

lthurwitz

mom2oneson Saturday, July 18th at 10:07PM EDT (link)

She could get a plan with a 7,000 or 10,000 deductible for under $250 per month. I looked at one for my son and I a few a years ago. If she is young is may be even less. I think it was $150 - $180 for us but that was a few years ago. This would protect a business or a home.

 
 

Conservatives are not interested

Dan Perrin Saturday, July 18th at 6:57PM EDT (link)

in health care, generally, unless the Dems are attacking it, which makes it tough to proactively pass things in the absence of a threat, and because the Dems are loath to let the Republicans pass any health care reform because the Dems see it as their issue

Thats obamas lie

bobojake Saturday, July 18th at 9:31PM EDT (link)

We are interested in reform but not destroying the best Healthcare in the World like obama did, housing with the help of dodd,ACORN, reid, peloski, and frank, the banking industry with the help of Geithner and schummmmmmmmmmmer, and destroying the AUTO Industry with the help of the Unions thugs. Community organizers with the mentality of ayers the terrorist, frankie the communist and rev wright the I hate America radical do not know how to mange or fix a things just destroy and we are sick of it. We ain’t takin it no more obumer and the thugs. Mark it on your calender.

 
 

re: Universal Affordability

ManekiNeko Saturday, July 18th at 9:28PM EDT (link)

1) Every health provider must publish their prices by procedure code.

Comment: Without price information available to the consumer, there is no competition, and without competition, it’s not free-market capitalism.

2) For each procedure code, there can be one and only one price.

Comment: (2) follows from (1). No more charging the one person full price and another 10% of that amount.

3) To make this all easier, *allow* the use of the Relative Value Study (RVS), RBRVS, or other openly published method of rating relative cost of procedures. A provider who adopts such a method sets the dollar value per unit and need only publish which method is being used and the multiplier.

Comment: Auto mechanics use this method, and it works well and consumers understand it. They have estimator books that tell how many hours each repair takes. And they charge their shop rate (set by them) times that number
of hours.

Those that voted for obama can't read so why do you want to

bobojake Saturday, July 18th at 9:32PM EDT (link)

kill trees for the incompetent.

 

Disclosure of prices

waltsfour Saturday, July 18th at 9:53PM EDT (link)

Such would be a great step. I seem to remember, however, that there are restrictions on advertising for medical services. Out of curiosity, does anyone know what those might be?

jt

No there aren't

Menlo Saturday, July 18th at 11:50PM EDT (link)

I hear and see ads all the time for local hospitals and doctors. I can’t count the number of ads I see for laser eye surgery for $599 an eye.

However, I have heard that it is in poor taste for them to advertise.

“Guess which party these big insurance companies favor? Big companies love big government.” -Ann Coulter

 
 
 
 

Desperation

Hera Saturday, July 18th at 7:46PM EDT (link)

This move along with Obama’s statement Friday and upcoming news conference Wed give the dem push for health care “reform” the smell of desperation.The scare tactics that got the “stimulus” passed are unlikely to work this time since much of the public realizes the “stimulus” has failed. Thus the need to get some bill passed before the American people have a chance to say no.The problem for Obama is that time is no longer on his side. The more people learn about Obamacare the less people like it.

The people don't matter in this Congress

dsmurf Saturday, July 18th at 8:18PM EDT (link)

I want to be as hopefull as you, but I’m figuring that no amount of pork is too small to buy these Blue dogs up and make them fall in line, unless there is massive Dem Rep switch to the GOP– its almost past my bedtime so the thoughts are heading to the punchy side after being cynical and hopeless.

I refuse to change.

A few billion suddenly dropping into their district could change some minds

bk Saturday, July 18th at 8:45PM EDT (link)

Soros' billions to stay on Obama's side?

dsmurf Saturday, July 18th at 9:09PM EDT (link)

these Blue dogs have proven to be yellow bellied with cash on the line.

Blue dogs are yellow dogs who are holding their breath

bk Saturday, July 18th at 11:10PM EDT (link)

I heard that line this week (can’t recall the source) and thought I was going to keel over.

 
 
 
 
 

Is the media going to cover...

ktsub Saturday, July 18th at 10:01PM EDT (link)

…that the Democrats are DIVIDED. Can you imagine if the RNC targeted moderate Republicans, we would hear repeated over and over again, how the GOP is divided againsts itself!!!

 

"Migrant workers" covered in this bill

silvernana Saturday, July 18th at 11:02PM EDT (link)

I’m 67 years old and the fact is Medicare is going to cut and the quality of life of the elderly will suffer greatly. I find out today that part of the Medicare cut will go to cover migrant workers, or as we knowo them, illegal aliens. Please go to this website. I hope you get as angry as I am, and pass this on to everyone you know. If enough people know this, we can stop this train wreck. Sorry, I don’t know how to link to this, but it is: directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/06/red-alert-la-raza-if-american-people.html. Menendez and La Raza are trying to pull a fast one on the American people. Let him know he can’t get by with this.

 

What's good for the goose is good for the gander

toni100 Saturday, July 18th at 11:03PM EDT (link)

Let the Democrats and those legislators who support government healthcare put their money where their mouth is and commit to taking the public option for their health care.

Send your legislator the “Congressional Healthcare Equality Pledge”

 

and let Obama and family

larryp Sunday, July 19th at 11:56PM EDT (link)

take this option in perpetuity. Actually why not show us how it is done by fixing Medicare and Medicaid and SS.
The obamites sure have enmity for Boomers, the parents of boomers and other
elderly…

 

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