Obama: Make Illegals Legal to give them ObamaCare


After Rep. Joe Wilson captured what many Americans were thinking during Obama’s Joint Session of Congress speech, I talked to an illegal alien to ask them, what do you think? Do you think if Obama’s plan passed you would get health care?

The first answer was, Yes, ObamaCare will give me health care because I get it now, paid for by the State, and I will get it under ObamaCare.

The second answer I got was more surprising, Obama can say he will not give health care to illegal aliens because he intends to make legal those who are here illegally.

Then, at the 9/12 Tea Party at the Capitol in D.C. I see this sign, saying precisely what the illegal alien told me.

So, low and behold, why should it surprise me that the President said the same thing that an illegal alien told me, and the same thing on the sign linked to above?

This morning in the Washington Times is reporting the following:

President Obama said this week that his health care plan won’t cover illegal immigrants, but argued that’s all the more reason to legalize them and ensure they eventually do get coverage.

He also staked out a position that anyone in the country legally should be covered - a major break with the 1996 welfare reform bill, which limited most federal public assistance programs only to citizens and longtime immigrants.

The have-it-both-ways statements by the President Obama is undermining his poll numbers, his credibility on both the deficit and health care, and is going to leave foreign leaders wondering if they can trust what he says.

The Obama Health Care Whoopers are directly impacting the recent Gallup Poll results: 52% of Americans disapprove of the way Obama is handling the health care issue. Only 43% of Americans approve of Obama’s handling of health care. His numbers on the deficit are even worse: hes has a current 38% approval on handling the deficit, and 58% disapproval.

And on the providing care without raising taxes, 6 out of 10 Americans flat out do not believe Obama.

Does anyone on the White House staff actually say, hey, we are saying something 180 degrees different than what we said in a nationally televised speech 10 days ago, so perhaps we ought not to say it? Or does this even occur to Obama? Is there no sense of shame at the flip-flops, or does Obama just say whatever he needs to at the time, to escape the political pressure of the moment?

Since we all now know what Obama means by an explicit ban on providing health care benefits to illegal aliens, it undermines Obama’s claim that he will have an explicit ban on abortion in his bill.

In fact, when the public can not take at face value what a President says, it creates a real problem each and every time the President makes some declaratory statement about his position or intent: everyone must immediately begin questioning, did he really mean it, what else could he mean, is this just a prelude to a flip-flop two weeks later — like his illegal alien position on ObamaCare?

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This reminds me of a "solution" from my childhood

bk Friday, September 18th at 9:17AM EDT (link)

Speed limit on our street was 20mph, but it was used as a shortcut through street and people were always zooming by, even though the sidewalks were only about three feet from the street and there were kids everywhere.

The cops came out once and gave dozens of tickets. On another occasion they suggested the problem could be resolved if the speed limit were raised to 30mph. Hell if they’d raised it to 70 that would have eliminated all speeding!

 

Two words to Describe Obama's Stand on Illegals

throwback59 Friday, September 18th at 9:29AM EDT (link)

It is said that brevity is the essense of wit. Rather than go into a long diatribe on Obama’s torture of the English language, how if you legalize illegals, than illegals won’t get health care, we need to keep it brieft. We need to find a short, precise description of what Obama is doing.
Can anyone think of an accurate, two word phrase that says the President is not telling the truth?
If only there was a not-so-average Joe out there who could stand up and call ou the president’s prevarication in just two words. Yup that’s what we need.

YOU LIE!

bk Friday, September 18th at 9:33AM EDT (link)

In all seriousness though, someone did it in his campus speech yesterday

bk Friday, September 18th at 9:37AM EDT (link)

Let’s see how it would be reported the other way around:
- Burly officer violently yanks the person’s arm for trying to exercise his free speech rights.
- While being escorted out, he is verbally and then physically assaulted.

"The only nation on Earth that leaves millions uninsured"?!

aesthete Friday, September 18th at 12:09PM EDT (link)

Hyperbole much, Pres. Obama?

Guilt is a rope that wears thin.
-Ayn Rand

“I am a freeman in a free state!”
-Last words of Dumnorix, chieftan of the Aedui, 54 BC

 
 

3rd 4th and 5th words needed so there's no doubt

Lammo Friday, September 18th at 12:22PM EDT (link)

LIKE A RUG ! ! ! ! ! !

:-)

ACORN: Association of Criminals Obama Represented in the Nineties. (jupitersuite)

Don’t be so open minded that your brains fall out. (Fr. John Corapi, SOLT)

Crime never takes a holiday. (Dennis J. O’Shea, R.I.P.)

Unlawful is against the law. Illegal is a sick bird. (Ooold joke)

Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog it’s too dark to read. (Groucho Marx)

 
 
 

Zero the Destroyer is at it again.

jen2001 Friday, September 18th at 9:36AM EDT (link)

This will completely destroy our economy and needs to be shouted from the rooftops.

Unless he is banking on the IRS collecting the penalties for not carrying insurance from all these new folks.

Oh, that’s right. He hasn’t shown us HIS healthcare plan yet.

2012 is way, way too far away.

 

You have to listen to what he doesn't say.

abbynormal Friday, September 18th at 9:38AM EDT (link)

You cannot just listen only to what Obama says, you have to remember who he is, and hear what isn’t said. To “hear” him say he would legalize illegals in order to make his statement of not providing healthcare to illegals true was a logical leap, but if you said it out loud, you just sound like a right-wing conspiracy kook.

Now he’s said it, and we really aren’t surprised, are we? Remember, he’s going to fundamentally change our country, founded on a “fundamentally flawed” Constitution. He’s not hiding who he is; we just can’t see the depths to which he will go to provide for his own salvation by “saving” America.

“Therefore, we must control men in order to force them to be free.”
Professor Pritchett
Ayn Rand’s Atlas Shrugged

But we're not supposed to connect the dots like that

bk Friday, September 18th at 9:40AM EDT (link)

As opposed to, say, Rep Johnson saying that not censuring Rep Wilson will lead to hooded klansmen riding around the country terrorizing blacks.

No instead we have a minority

izoneguy Friday, September 18th at 9:58AM EDT (link)

of folks terrorizing a majority who don’t want to go along with the change being thrust upon them. And in the end we won’t go along with the “change”. Live free or die hard.

“When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
Thomas Jefferson

 
 
 

I was right. It is all about sweet talking the new major minority

archer52 Friday, September 18th at 9:53AM EDT (link)

The difference between conservatives and radical communists and socialists is the use and discarding of the “useful idiot.”

The useful idiot is a person, or a group of people who willingly go along with the agenda of the radicals for their own narrow purpose or ideology. They think that they are “partners” in the revolution, when in truth they are only tools being used as a means to an end.

For years we saw eco-groups, gays, legalizing drug-ers, PETA puppy lovers, no-nuke’ers, anti-war protesters, entertainers, liberal MSM types, all running around mucking up the system. All supported and funded by the far left. (Seriously, what purpose did CODE PINK serve other than as an irritant?) When their usefulness is used up by the left, they are discarded. Often to their shock and dismay. “But we were partners, YOU said we were partners!”

Activist black groups in America were also funded, backed and supported in their effort to further disrupt the system and garner votes for the people in power (who I might point out except for the figurehead of Obama, are white) so they can expand their influence.

As the Hispanic population increase in a number of states to the point where they surpassed the black population, I’ve noticed a shift, by both parties, towards soliciting their support. As the Hispanic population grows in America, as their wealth grows, as their impact on politics grows, the blacks will be forced to the background in many states.

We’ve seen this in Florida for years. Miami is almost completely a Hispanic city. Other cities cater, politically, to the growing population, which some Hispanic groups are now demanding and expecting. I remember a Cuban woman from Miami coming into our department refusing to speak English. She could (most all of the Cubans are bilingual) but she demanded we produce a Spanish speaking officer so she didn’t have to. When we were unable to find one, she said to anyone listening in her loud Cuban voice, “All of you are racists!”

I kid you not.

My point is this. Get ready for some fireworks soon. The left (and moderate right) are going to be forced by budgets and other limits to chose between blacks and Hispanics, and with the Hispanics having the numbers and the wealth, it won’t be a contest.

At which point you are going to hear a WHOLE lot of screaming. It will be loud when the left dumps thirteen million “useful idiots”.

It will be loud when the left dumps thirteen million “useful idiots”.

izoneguy Friday, September 18th at 10:43AM EDT (link)

They have dumped them. They just don’t know it yet. They keep stringing them along with a montly check. Just wait until that money gets cut off.

“When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
Thomas Jefferson

5555555555!

navychick1993 Friday, September 18th at 3:37PM EDT (link)

It’s funny you say that. I live in Los Angeles and our illustrious mayor..Antonio Villa “La Raza” has done everything he can to enable illegals here. I was trying to explain to one of my ignorant “apple sugar sugar” relatives that the Democrats have already chosen a side. And while the so-called black leaders keep shouting about solidarity within the “brown and black” community, the amnesty crew is pushing their agenda, at the expense of the black community. But I have no sympathy for any of them.

*And when I say at the expense of the black community, jobs (primarily minimum waged) are being lost to the illegals. Just saying…

Ignorance comes in all shapes, sizes and colors.

 
 
 

A Republican senator or MoC needs to offer an amendment to forbid government health care

spainishirish Friday, September 18th at 10:59AM EDT (link)

benefits to anyone now in the country unlawfully who is subsequently legalized. That will sort out this issue.

 

ANYONE HERE LEGALLY!?!

Idolator Friday, September 18th at 11:48AM EDT (link)

I suppose that would include people from other countries here on vacation, UN diplomats, folks here on their frist day of a workers visa, non working people here on a student visa and terrorist cells planted by our enemies.

That’s not the whole list of those here legally, but a disturbing number anyway.

If they had top notch medical care in Mexico and I had a dibilitating disease, I would apply for a workers visa today. Knowing that they won’t screen me for diseases and I will be able to get treatment the moment I walk across the border.

That’s just one scenario, thnk of all the Europeans that come here on vacation. Our system will just be starting to sink (not totaly under water like theirs) they could, COULD, swamp our system and drag it under way faster than thiers.

Look at yourself! Have you looked at yourself?!?

 

Just make them legal.... it could work

fisk2521 Friday, September 18th at 12:19PM EDT (link)

This tactic seemed obvious from the very beginning of this ‘campaign’ by Obama. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that he talks like a lawyer, carefully wording what he says in order to hide what he really intends.

Obama’s attempt to deceive is why the American public is no longer convinced he tells the truth!!!! He and his supporters can call those who are questioning his real motivations ‘terrorists” if they like. The truth is Americans are using their intelligence to protect themselves, their families and theri country from what they are beginning to believe is a pack of lies. If Nancy Pelosi doesn’t understand that, then she and the rest of the Dems are not the answer but the problem.

It all makes Joe Wilson’s angry outburst during Obama’s speech just a small cry in the wilderness of lies and duplitous behavior by a man who claims to be upholding the Constitution and laws of the land.

LDavis

 

Zero better change the number of insured from 30 million back to 47 million.

SoFiMil Friday, September 18th at 9:43PM EDT (link)

He’s also going to have to rework the budget numbers as well. He can’t possibly think it will cost the same amount to provide health care for 30 million additional people as it will to provide health care for 47 million more people. Can he?…

Kowalaski - the number of "uninsured"

SoFiMil Friday, September 18th at 9:52PM EDT (link)
 

Poll numbers are all the keep me out of the bottle

GOPMOM Monday, September 21st at 6:29AM EDT (link)

As long as Obama’s poll numbers stay low, the pressure needs to stay on. More tea parties! More demonstrations! More protests! More letters and phone calls!

If there’s one thing our reps in Congress/Senate have shown us, they will do anything to keep their seats. Assure them they must vote against any measure that even hints at amnesty or cap & trade (delayed) or an healthcare takeover and they might just save us. Tell them it’s the only way to keep their seat. Then boot them out in 2010 anyway.

 

We need to accept each others' existence

tlwinslow Monday, September 21st at 6:53AM EDT (link)

Pres. Obama has already announced that he’s going to work to give the Mexicans living in the U.S. amnesty and citizenship, so why the surprise that he wants them covered by his health care plan, along with all others? There’s already so many Mexicans living in the U.S. that attempting to sort them into legals and illegals is counterproductive. Why even consider Mexico as a separate state anymore? The real issue is when will we finally incorporate Mexico into the U.S. as 10+ new states sans the corrupt Mexican federal govt. so that all 414M Americans can work to share the New World in peace? Once Mexico becomes a sector of the U.S., the U.S. military and coast guard will move in and end the lawlessness, allowing the border to come down, after which millions of Yankee “gringos” will reverse the pattern and flock down there and set up new cities, creating new jobs at all levels and raising the GDP, what Pres. Reagan used to call Supply Side Economics, ending the poverty and all the grumbling.

Whether you’re conservative or liberal, expanding the U.S. to 760K sq. mi. of new territory in order to develop it is a worthy goal. Read about my Megamerge Dissolution Solution at http://go.to/megamerge

If enough of Mexican sand bloews over into Texas

Maggie_in_Indiana Monday, September 21st at 11:29AM EDT (link)

then mexico is our 51 st state? the majority of the illigals have to go back from where ever they came,IF there’s not a really really good reason for them to return.

I feel like living in another country so I’ll just go and squat,hide from the authorities work for low wages,and be worried everyday that I’m gonna be jailed and sent back,that sounds like the good life to me.

If they don’t like their countries government then stand up and do their best as a people to change it,we are.

Maggie in Indiana

 
 

They still don't listen

redpens Tuesday, September 22nd at 4:44AM EDT (link)

Didn’t we reject sham-nesty in 2007? The Dems want more zero liability voters to stay in power long-term.

 

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