I confess, it makes zero sense to me.
I’ve done the math and the political calculus keeps coming back a broken equation.
In general, if the strategic political forces are aligned properly, then the tactical level concerns resolve themselves. This mathematical rule in politics (it is very close to applied chaos theory) regularly produces victory for those applying the rule.
There are oh so very many outright political violations that irrationalism – an identifiable and documented strain of ideologies, among them, fascism — can only explain the behavior of the White House and the House and Senate leadership.
The following political actions are simply not rational:
1. Spend more than a trillion dollars, at least $1.25 Trillion, on a new health care entitlement: $1 trillion for the house bill, plus the $247 billion for the doctor Medicare fix. This new entitlement is being pushed at a time when global financial capitals believe America is bankrupt. For those who do not know, we have printed $1 Trillion in U.S. currency in the last year, to buy our own T-Bills, to finance our $1.4 Trillion deficit – which has grown by a trillion dollars in one year. By spending another trillion dollars, the world’s financial leaders are being told to go pound sand.
2. Republicans and independents rank spending and the deficit as their one of their top concerns: go pound sand.
3. Seniors are concerned about cuts to Medicare: go pound sand.
4. Americans in the toughest economic climate in decades do not want their taxes raised to pay for more spending: go pound sand.
5. Pro-life Democrats and the Catholic Church and legions of evangelicals — many of whom want some health care reform — cannot stomach taxpayer financed or guaranteed abortions: go pound sand.
6. Second Amendment groups are concerned about electronic health records documenting gun ownership: go pound sand.
7. Independent and Republican voters have great concerns about increasing the power and influence of government over their lives: go pound sand.
8. Americans worried about financing a new entitlement for health care being accessed by illegal immigrants: go pound sand.
9. Americans will be forced to buy health insurance, and Americans hate that. Just ask Frank Luntz.
10. In the greatest and most spontaneous out pouring of American political activism since the Vietnam War, the White House and House and Senate Democratic Leadership has chosen to ridicule it as an “angry mob” and ignored it.
11. The divisiveness of the health care fight will leave its implementation, should irrationality rein, impossibly difficult — sabotaged along every step, by every political force violated.
12. The American business community opposes it outright, and for all the talk about pro-business Democrats, the White House is attacking the U.S. Chamber of Commerce as public enemy number one. And now almost every business group opposes the House health bill, imagine that?
It is simply impossible to violate so many voter’s cherished concerns and not be struck down by God-like lightening, now or in the future.
It is easy to ridicule the strategic political posture the Democratic Party has put itself in over health care. For they are being irrational in not just strategic ways, but also tactical: why is the U.S. House voting first?
Why are its vulnerable members going to walk the plank, again, prior to the Senate?
Probably because U.S. House Members do not know that you can filibuster the motion to proceed in the Senate — meaning that if the Republicans stick together, just one Democratic or Independent Senator voting against ending the filibuster will mean the U.S. Senate does not even proceed to the bill. Think of it like defeating the rule in the House. But the margin of error is one U.S. Senator.
When Senator Reid decided to leave Senator Snowe at the altar by going with his public option, she was asked what would Senator Reid have to change to bring her back, and her response was — he’d have to change all of it.
The only real rationale for deciding to march your troops on to a mine field without clearing it first is if you know you are going to take losses and don’t really care — note to Blue Dogs — your leadership wants you dead.
And some believe that just by bringing up health care the base will be happy even if the bill dies. This is really just another way of saying those who will lose their election over this are acceptable losses to feed to our base — note to Blue Dogs — your leadership wants you dead.
Senator Reid needs the base for his re-election fight, since his approval ratings are death like. So Senator Reid is asking his fellow Democrats to act against their own interests, despite the fact that he thinks he is acting in his own interest.
In fact, the liberals likely see health care as a political enema for their party. Every member of their caucus who is concerned about any of the issues listed above, after all, is not a real liberal. Health care will be a great bodily cleaning for the liberals. Those objecting to being cleaned are obviously to be treated with disdain and ostracized. Those being expelled and cleaned from the body politic must be told everything is going to be OK, and kind words whispered in their ears; while harsh words and hard laughter is used behind closed doors. These members to be cleaned are like followers at the Jonestown Kool-Aid club. Drink up men and women of faith. Let’s all see what awaits, together.
Irrationality reins.
But the consequences of irrational behavior are in direct relation to the degree of irrational behavior. And this degree of irrational political behavior is off the scale, the graph paper is too small to chart it.
For many, this is going to be like watching stock car races to see the crashes. But, given the leadership of the House and Senate have gone about and made it their business to dismantle every known safety device prior to the race, there will be fatalities.
But there are a group who could save the organism known as the Democratic caucus, and they are straining to prevent it from killing itself, and killing the health bill is the quickest route to saving the caucus, and saving themselves.
In the Senate, voting against cloture on the motion to proceed — allowing the filibuster to continue and never letting the bill come up — will save every Democratic Senator facing re-election a month of tough votes, on every thermonuclear issue in American politics today. Issues like guns, abortion, taxes, immigration, spending and deficits.
You know, acting rationally, in their own self-interest.
Steve Maley
Neil Stevens
Daniel Horowitz
They are acting rationally
Maureenthetemp Saturday, October 31st at 11:26AM EST (link)Government will control an additional 15 – 20% of the economy. That is the tipping point at which a society turns into Eurosocialism, and true capitalism dies. Rationality depends on what your rational is — if what you want is government control of the economy and to kill American exceptionalism, this is the play. They are going to lose a short-term battle and lose the House for a couple of sessions, but they will have won the war.
"Rationality" is Reason's evil twin.
H (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 11:52AM EST (link)I forget where I recently read this or heard it said, but when a culture replaces reason with rationality, it has essentially severed it’s link with the Almighty.
The Obamacrats have a rationale for everything they do. If Reason were anything but a nuisance and obstacle for them, the words “the ends justify the means” would never have been penned nor spoken.
If replacing reason with rationality
Dan Perrin (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 1:15PM EST (link)means forsaking God, what then does replacing reason with irrationality mean?
"Rationalism" would have been a better choice of words.
H (Diary) Monday, November 2nd at 11:52AM EST (link)Think of St. Paul’s discourse to the Greeks on their “Unknown God.” Paul trumped their rationale with his Reason.
We were warned
VinceP1974 (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 11:32AM EST (link)Noah Webster
“If the citizens neglect their duty and place unprincipled men in office, the government will soon be corrupted; laws will be made not for the public good so much as for the selfish or local purposes;
“Corrupt or incompetent men will be appointed to execute the laws; the public revenues will be squandered on unworthy men; and the rights of the citizens will be violated or disregarded.
“If a republican government fails to secure public prosperity and happiness, it must be because the citizens neglect the divine commands, and elect bad men to make and administer the laws.”
“Corruption of morals is rapid enough in any country without a bounty from government. And…the Chief Magistrate of the United States should be the last man to accelerate its progress.”
New Testament
2 Timothy 3:1 But understand this, that in the last days difficult1 times will come. For people will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, irreconcilable, slanderers, without self-control, savage, opposed to what is good, treacherous, reckless, conceited, loving pleasure rather than loving God.
They will maintain the outward appearance4 of religion but will have repudiated its power. So avoid people like these. For some of these insinuate themselves into households and captivate weak women who are overwhelmed with sins and led along by various passions. Such women are always seeking instruction,8 yet never able to arrive at a knowledge of the truth.
Peggy Noonan said recently that
Dan Perrin (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 1:17PM EST (link)those running the country are spoiled brats and callous children that have no concept of the damage they are doing to hurt or irreparably harm the Republic.
The spending of another $1.2 Trillion in the name of an irrational political structure is destructive to nth power, and we will reap a whirlwind of unimaginable force of destructive economic power — brought on by leaders who simply do not care, will not listen and are irrational.
Yeah?
Steph C (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 1:53PM EST (link)Well, she’s one of them. I remember well, how they whined and cried over Romney and eviscerated Palin from the right and then whined and cried because people stopped listening to them after that.
She reaped what she sewed. Now she can put it all in a stock pot and stew on it.
“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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If only!
The_Gadfly (Diary) Monday, November 2nd at 10:49AM EST (link)The problem is, she’s in the stuff toward the middle at the top of the pot, while some of us who didn’t side with her are stuck in the same pot rather closer to the heat source.
You mean the stuff that should be skimmed off?
Steph C (Diary) Monday, November 2nd at 11:56AM EST (link)LOL
“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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Great article.
Bill S (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 2:08PM EST (link)I just read it yesterday.
It’s right here
Peggy has been getting more right than wrong of late. It’s a pleasant shift for her.
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
The question is: For how long?
Steph C (Diary) Monday, November 2nd at 11:59AM EST (link)During the primaries she kind of got more right than wrong but once the primaries were over and McCain was the candidate and Palin the VP candidate she reeled leftward and kind of got stuck there. I think she’s of the same mind as the liberals; that we’ll forget what she did and start listening to her again.
No apologies, no admission that she might have been wrong about a lot of things, just a reliance on the forgetfulness of the base. However, she’s looking at the wrong base. Elephants don’t forget.
“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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Leftism is NOT rational. Its entire basis is chaos...
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 11:56AM EST (link)When FIGHTING the left WE cannot ever begin to think in terms of rationality because like the anarchists who are in their party the leftists in the Democrat Party are all about CHAOS. It is how they FREEZE everyone because the majority of the population use their brains to think everything through and their shock & disgust at what is happening FREEZE’s them in place(surely this isn’t happening). WE must UN-FREEZE the minds of other Americans and STOP this atrocity upon our great country!
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The leaders in the Capitol
Dan Perrin (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 1:20PM EST (link)know how the American public feel about this plan, the polls have been clear.
The minds of the American public are clear — it is the leadership of the Democratic party that simply refuse to change their behavior or approach and are willingly defying the will of the people.
There has never been a clearer case of them outright denying the will of the people, and the consequences will be severe for them and for their country — if they succeed, which I do not think they will.
Dan, this is why I've been making the predictions I have
Bill S (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 12:24PM EST (link)You and some of my colleagues have been claiming there will be no healthcare bill passed because of the Tea Parties, etc. I believe this is incorrect because of precisely what you are saying – they are being irrational. We cannot expect these people to make rational, logical decisions. They are too afraid of losing power within their own party, thus they follow party leadership over their own constituents.
It is not impossible. It is quite possible, because these Democrats are utterly and totally irrational.
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
I think
Dan Perrin (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 1:12PM EST (link)a large enough number will act rationally to stop the irrational behavior –using any number of issues as the excuse to force upon their colleagues rational political behavior.
Even If Enough Don't Act Rationally, You're Second Point Will Come Into Play...
IJB Saturday, October 31st at 1:27PM EST (link)…And that is that it will be easy, *easy*, to sabotage a program this unpopular, once it passes.
There will be a zillion ways to sabotage, remake and kill this program, if it manages to pass. And, facts are facts – this program will become even more unpopular *if it passes* than if it doesn’t (where, in the Left’s mind, it will become this mythical “final solution” to all of the nation’s problems if it ends up dying on the vine).
A lot on the Right are cocooning themselves that if this passes, it’ll be just like the Great Society and SS in that it will be permanent – the difference, those programs were *massively popular*. This program is MASSIVELY UNPOPULAR, in ways that I doubt pollsters have even managed to quantify yet.
But, ultimately, I’m with you: I think there are far too many cowards in the Democrat’s caucus – people who love their jobs and perks way more than they love the insane ideology of the nutroot and college Left, and that ultimately this bill will be defeated (likely in *both* Houses).
What’s about to happen on Tuesday is just going to make that outcome even more likely…
I disagree that it would be easy to unhook
Bill S (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 2:14PM EST (link)Once they’ve dismantled private sector medical insurance, you can’t just throw it back together again that quickly. If the public option is allowed to be established, it will kill private health insurance virtually overnight. And once it’s gone, it will take years to re-establish.
A President can’t just eliminate a program like that with a stroke of the pen. Furthermore, I anticipate that this new entitlement will be like the others – once it’s in place, the populace will become addicted to this new governmental freebie and it may become as unpopular to UN-do it as it seems to be (at least on the right) to establish it right now.
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
The Point Is, They Won't Even Get As Far As "Dismantling Private Insurance"...
IJB Saturday, October 31st at 2:51PM EST (link)This program will get knee-capped before they even get that far.
It takes years to implement a program of this scope, and the GOP will be able to (and will have the popular support to) dismantle it long-before it gets up to anywhere near full-steam. (There will be massive bureaucracy and inefficiency setting up something this massively bureaucratic and inefficient!)
Anyway, an unpopular program is much easier to kill. And this one will be beaucoup de unpopular…
Easy to slow down and sabotage
Dan Perrin (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 3:59PM EST (link)not easy to repeal or dismantle
Agree 100% [nt]
Bill S (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 4:32PM EST (link)“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
5555! To everything said so far. Now, if the GOP "leaders" would listen/read/THINK.......NT
USNJIMRET (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 12:34PM EST (link)thanks
Dan Perrin (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 1:21PM EST (link)n/t
Of course they are doing the right thing
anotherindyfilmguy (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 1:51PM EST (link)if their intent is to destabilize and destroy America…
IMO this is the high point of the 1960′s/70′s radicals trying to work to destroy the system from within. If we can defeat through filibuster the further attempts to bankrupt the dollar/takeover major economic sectors we stand a chance of seeing a shift in power over the next two elections to repeal and rest the damage already done and move on to better times. If not then we stand to see the dollar go to essentially a nil value and find ourselves in a very bad way that might only be resolved by either force or by accepting the plunge into darkness.
Santorum? Well, at least he’s not Romney…
http://www.zazzle.com/enemy_of_the_statist_tshirt-235977043035297478
Yes, this is very clear
Dan Perrin (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 4:00PM EST (link)and when the dollar goes — printing a trillion a year cannot last forever — then darkness will be upon this nation
The only question is
anotherindyfilmguy (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 1:55PM EST (link)If they manage to get everything they want how do they retain power?
Through wielding the power they’ve accumulated/rigging elections and telling the law enforcement investigators to stop investigating/drop any charges, having the judges you appoint dismiss all charges etc…
If the right loses when all the chips are on the line all I can say ids welcome to the third world America…
Since many on the right has a recent history caving to the left to “be nice/get along to go along” etc the prospects are a bit daunting unless the few who are in the critical places can nut up and derail this insanity.
Santorum? Well, at least he’s not Romney…
http://www.zazzle.com/enemy_of_the_statist_tshirt-235977043035297478
They will not remain in power
Dan Perrin (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 4:02PM EST (link)it is not possible, politically speaking
I've been puzzled by their logic, too.
Conquistadora Saturday, October 31st at 3:00PM EST (link)In my experience, when some situation seems illogical to me based on the data I have, I have learned that others have additional data that I don’t.
I have been trying to understand why the Democrats seem so determined to push their radical agenda in the face of very vocal opposition from the electorate. Don’t they understand what is about to happen to them in the 2010 elections? Past history proves that in the end, most Congress Critters can be expected to vote in their own self-interest – why are so many seemingly willing to suffer defeat next year?
My conclusion is that they don’t think that is going to happen because they have a plan to suspend elections next year. With the President’s grab to take over the private sector (banks, insurance, automobiles, healthcare) and “Let no good crisis go to waste” mentality, I am beginning to believe they will seize upon some issue to declare marshal law and prevent the American public from voting them out of office. Therefore, they think can safely ram these changes down our throats without fearing the election consequences.
I really don't like suggesting this, but
Dan Perrin (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 4:06PM EST (link)this post may explain the irrationality in more detail:
http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/08/16/the-democrats-irrational-political-behavior-on-health-care/
Remember Democrat Modus Operandi
autiger89 Saturday, October 31st at 4:37PM EST (link)Remember that Democrats always do two things: 1) claim their opponents are doing something they are already doing, and 2) do something they claim their opponents have already done. Both are basically methods of rationalizing bad behavior. Moral relativism, anyone?
Also remember that they claimed Bush was taking away civil liberties.
Also remember that they claimed Bush was resposible (maybe even facilitating) the terrorist attacks.
Also remember that they claimed Bush stole the 2000 election.
Your comment “I am beginning to believe they will seize upon some issue to declare [martial] law and prevent the American public from voting them out of office.” is not implausible.
There is nothing that Democrats won’t do to retain the power they currently hold.
".. the graph paper is off the chart"
apollothree (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 3:30PM EST (link)Wonderful analogy. Sad, but unfortunately true.
In reading your bit about the cloture motions I have to ask,
The_Gadfly (Diary) Monday, November 2nd at 10:58AM EST (link)given the current state of affairs, should Republicans vote against the motion to proceed?
Initially I was thinking the sooner we put a stake through this monster, the better. But in reflecting upon a few things:
*They will still need a cloture vote to vote on the bill itself after it gets to the floor
*Joe Lieberman has said he will vote to proceed, but not to close debate after it starts
*Debating amendments to the bill will put Dems on the official record
I have started to wonder if we should follow Lieberman’s lead? Let them fall into the trap of exposing their hypocrisy to the American people, then maybe get both the House and the Senate back. Of course if we do that, we might actually manage to temper The Big 0 enough so he wins a second election a la Bill Clinton.
Decisions, decisions….