I know this will come as a shock — sort of like the Pope being Catholic — but the Dems are admitting they have a “serious problem” with regard to the health bill negotiations, and do not expect to finish until February.
From Roll Call:
“We’ve got a problem on both sides of the Capitol. A serious problem,” Ways and Means Chairman Charlie Rangel (D-N.Y.) said Tuesday evening.
The difficulty in hashing out an agreement between the two chambers is largely due to there being so many different factions with a stake in the matter, Rangel said. “Normally you’re just dealing with the Senate and they talk about 60 votes and you listen to them and cave in, but this is entirely different,” he said. “I’m telling you that never has 218 been so important to me in the House.”
Another senior House Democrat familiar with negotiations on the bill said no progress has been made this week on any of the key sticking points in the House and Senate bills, despite steady meetings with union leaders and the White House.
“There’s no agreement. No deal on anything. Nothing,” the lawmaker said.
That’s nada, zilch, zero, uh, nothing.
Here’s Politico’s take, which they refer as a Dem assault on the health bill.
Then there is juicy quote, also from the Roll Call story:
“The Senate is just a pain in the ass to everybody in the world as far as I can tell. I’m so angry that I just wish from now on that we’d just find out what it is that Lieberman and Nelson will let us have,” the senior lawmaker said. “But we’re not giving up on anything in the House.”
“We keep hearing them squeal like pigs in the Senate that they had a tough time getting to 60,” Weiner said. “Well, it wasn’t particularly a picnic for us to get to 218. Generally speaking, the Senate kabuki dance has lost its magic on those of us in the House.”
JadedByPolitics
Michael Becker
Ben Domenech
Erick Brockway
When you have that many rats all with different agendas , all not for the citizens/voters/taxpayers or healthcare, which rat eats which rat and obamascare dies would be the magic dragon. nt
bobojake Wednesday, January 13th at 7:02AM EST (link)well said
Dan Perrin Wednesday, January 13th at 7:30AM EST (link)n/t
Hope this is true
RedBeard Wednesday, January 13th at 7:07AM EST (link)The best thing for America right now is for Congress to be impotent, gridlocked, and unable to “get things done.”
The act of NOT doing (fill in the blank) is very often the best course of action, particularly when the people who want to do things are as disreputable as the majority currently in Congress.
Standard-bearer for grouchy curmudgeonry since, oh, 1975 or so.
Very true...
discerningconservative Wednesday, January 13th at 7:19AM EST (link)This is a very touching moment, seeing congress at a gridlock. Imagine how wonderful it will be with Scott Brown as a 41st vote in the Senate. The socialization of our country will have to wait. Hopefully for an eternity. Nothing looks better than the public waking up and opposing this monstrosity.
Good times are in America’s future. We can thank places like Red State for that. As a great man (Moe Lane) once said, “We are the Cavalry.”
I second that
surfcitysocal Thursday, January 14th at 2:19PM EST (link)Gridlock, baby, gridlock.
Like you, I hope this report is true.
Narcissism is not immune to the law of unintended consequences...
rbdwiggins Wednesday, January 13th at 7:21AM EST (link)When the dems crafted an economy-killing $2.7 Trillion special-interest-laden spending bill designed to cement their stranglehold on power by rewarding 20% of the population at the expense of the remaining 80%, but it severely rations healthcare, dramatically increases the cost of healthcare while covering fewer people and shackles future generations of Americans with mountains of unsustainable debt, what could possibly go wrong?
“Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.” – Ronald Reagan
chuckling here
Dan Perrin Wednesday, January 13th at 7:30AM EST (link)Nice, well said.
February...
Mayhem Wednesday, January 13th at 7:27AM EST (link)Everytime they have set a deadline, it has gotten pushed back. I’d say “February” will probably = March or April.
Rubio Republicans unite!
and what to do about the State of the Union?
Dan Perrin Wednesday, January 13th at 7:31AM EST (link)http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2010/01/12/obama-delays-state-of-the-union-until-health-care-is-resolved/
Obama's state of the union speech...
kyle8 Wednesday, January 13th at 7:48AM EST (link)“We Uh don’t yet have a health care bill, but uh that is because of the Republicans. Our economy is uh in the uh crapper, but that is because of George Bush. We still have a few problems with terrorism but that is because of Bush and Cheney.
So I am going to announce a new strategy to get the Nation back to work. In compassion for the poor and suffering earthquake victims I announce that the United States will now accept all Haitians immediately as full citizens and we are going to pay to have them shipped to your neighborhoods and will create government housing for them. ” (democrats applause enthusiastically.)
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
Skip the SOTU
Darin_H Wednesday, January 13th at 7:49AM EST (link)I’d rather not bump either Lost or American Idol.
A visionary coward says that anger can be power, as long as there’s a victim on TV - Flat Top, Goo Goo Dolls
Actually, it seems rather appropriate
Next93 Wednesday, January 13th at 8:43AM EST (link)Not seeing American Idol or Lost so that you can watch an American idol who’s completely lost not saying anything. Seems about right to me.
Free speech means I have the right to offend you, freedom of assembly means I have the right to be intolerant. Deal with it.
Push the State of the Union back to
throwback59 Wednesday, January 13th at 8:59AM EST (link)June, July, December. This administration has already shown that tradition & precedent are meaningless to them.
Obama is busy renaming the "State of the Union" address
izoneguy Wednesday, January 13th at 9:59AM EST (link)to the “State of my State” re-address.
“Surely something must be terribly wrong with a man who seems to be far more concerned with Jews building houses in Israel than with Muslims building a nuclear bomb in Iran.”
Columnist Burt Prelutsky
Badda-bing! izoneguy. What's the old saying?
eburke Wednesday, January 13th at 10:05AM EST (link)Humor always has its origins in truth?
“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”
“Dead fish go with the flow” ~ izoneguy
“We have a Statue of Liberty not a Statue of Necessity” ~ ColdWarrior
Good to know...
SusanAnne Hiller Wednesday, January 13th at 7:36AM EST (link)that the union leaders are consistently in these meetings.
~SusanAnne
@susanannehiller on Twitter
My Favorite quote as well
smitty Wednesday, January 13th at 8:24AM EST (link)I don’t remember there being a union election on any of my ballots in November….
I don't believe the 218 number.
NeoKong Wednesday, January 13th at 7:50AM EST (link)218 may be the minimum number needed but I think O’l Nancy could come up with ten or twenty more votes if necessary if there were defections.
It may be true that dozen of (D)s voted against the bill but it was they were given permission to do that so they could go home in peace. You may have noticed that you have not heard a single peep out of any of them. There isn’t really any true opposition to this bill on that side of the aisle.
The bill is a disaster and yet the Democrats keep passing it along. When it became possible for one Senator with principal to stop the bill they all folded like a cheap lawn chair.
Scott Brown winning next Tuesday in Mass. if our best hope to derail health care. If he becomes the 41st vote and the bill is stopped then the House members can vote against it with cover because they know it no longer matters.
If he loses then I think the bill will be successfully reconciled with somehow just enough votes and token opposition.
Keep your fingers crossed next Tuesday.
Retire Barney.
Support Sean Bielat for Congress.
Trust Nothing Dems Say, Claim, Hint, or Leak: And Beware Mainiac RINO's!
Ausonius Wednesday, January 13th at 8:00AM EST (link)You can trust none of this: the Hell-th Care Bill is Ol’ Man River: it just keeps rollin’ along, despite all the claims that it is going dry, so-and-so says he will never vote yes, blah blah blah.
Scott Brown may become the unexpected factor, but do not count on that too much. Fraud - hidden and subtle - cannot be discounted, given the fraud by Dems discovered in other areas. “Whatever it takes…” - Billy Jeff Clinton.
Plus:
You have the constant wild cards marked “Mainiac RINO” to confound conservative hopes. I am not convinced that every Republican vote is a rock-solid “No.”
Ausonius: 310-395 A.D. Teacher, Poet, Consul, General, Farmer.
Personal Tutor to the future St. Paulinus of Nola and to young Gratian, heir to the throne during the turbulent final years of the Western Roman Empire. When his former student Gratian was assassinated, Ausonius threw up his hands and retired to his farm in Gaul. Rome was captured by barbarians 14 years after his death.
Trust Nothing Dems Say, Claim, Hint, or Leak: And Beware Mainiac RINO's!
Ausonius Wednesday, January 13th at 8:00AM EST (link)You can trust none of this: the Hell-th Care Bill is Ol’ Man River: it just keeps rollin’ along, despite all the claims that it is going dry, so-and-so says he will never vote yes, blah blah blah.
Scott Brown may become the unexpected factor, but do not count on that too much. Fraud - hidden and subtle - cannot be discounted, given the fraud by Dems discovered in other areas. “Whatever it takes…” - Billy Jeff Clinton.
Plus:
You have the constant wild cards marked “Mainiac RINO” to confound conservative hopes. I am not convinced that every Republican vote is a rock-solid “No.”
Ausonius: 310-395 A.D. Teacher, Poet, Consul, General, Farmer.
Personal Tutor to the future St. Paulinus of Nola and to young Gratian, heir to the throne during the turbulent final years of the Western Roman Empire. When his former student Gratian was assassinated, Ausonius threw up his hands and retired to his farm in Gaul. Rome was captured by barbarians 14 years after his death.
I'm seeing a pattern here and I think we're being played on HCR
AceInTX Wednesday, January 13th at 7:56AM EST (link)Every time the Dems start talking about the problems they are having on this we all get excited and a week later there is a grand compromise reached and the bill takes another step forward.
I hope I’m wrong on this but if I’m not…we’ll all be mumbling curses under our breath in a week or so about some compromise they’ve reached.
We can’t allow them to let us think this thing is dead again and get complacent…now is the time to push like we’ve never pushed anything in our lives so we can shove this turkey into the abyss!
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Oh...and get Brown elected in MA nt
AceInTX Wednesday, January 13th at 7:58AM EST (link)House Conservatives Fund
Michael Williams for Senate
Toomey US Senate
SarahPAC
I thought the exact same thing, Ace...
yoyo Wednesday, January 13th at 8:29AM EST (link)Chuck Wrangle’s mouth was moving… ‘Nuf said.
And Fuzzy Reid has been rather silent on the issue, as of late. This sorta falls in line with Chuck’s posturing for Fuzzy’s job in the autumn, er, Fall.
…
I don’t know, Ace. I don’t trust him at all.
Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum
‘If you seek peace, prepare for war!’
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The ‘yoyo’ replaced my cigarettes January 22, 2006….
Agreed.
Bill S Wednesday, January 13th at 9:32AM EST (link)I see the same thing. They’re trying to make themselves look like geniuses in how they so brilliantly and adeptly worked out their problems.
Of course they also have the safety valve of blaming the GOP if they’re unsuccessful, since we were being “obstructionist”.
Decorum is fo’ suckas - unless it’s one of the good guys
"They’re trying to make themselves look like geniuses in how they so brilliantly and adeptly worked out their problems."
Mayhem Wednesday, January 13th at 10:39AM EST (link)I think you give them too much credit.
Rubio Republicans unite!
I'm not so sure...
cari Wednesday, January 13th at 8:04AM EST (link)that all those in the House who “got permission” to vote no the first time can be convinced to vote yes this time around. Bill Clinton’s theory that 1994 happened because they failed to pass healthcare is a load of crap. And now we recently have even more evidence to prove it:
http://spectator.org/blog/2010/01/12/maybe-killing-hc-bill-would-he
Exactly what I am thinking...
lurker9876 Wednesday, January 13th at 8:05AM EST (link)It’s a pattern being repeated. They announced that they were having problems and announce a delay in the deadline. Then at 1 am tonight or something, they finally reach an agreement.
I’m sure Rahm and Axelrod have been working very hard to get both sides to agree on something. Err…were they issuing threats to these Democrats? Didn’t Rahm tell the Democrats that if they vote against the bill, they won’t get reelected????
Something tells me they are working for a deal
jen2001 Wednesday, January 13th at 9:03AM EST (link)before the January 19 MA election. I think that is their real deadline. If Brown wins, and wins by more than 5%, then you are going to see democrats in those purple and red states in complete tizzy. They need to have at least the house vote before then or they are going to lose their 218.
Seems strange to me
bkeyser Wednesday, January 13th at 8:44AM EST (link)I’ve been poking myself in the eye for a week now and I can’t figure out why I can’t see.
These guys are idiots of the first order.
Possible, but . . .
conservvoter Wednesday, January 13th at 8:56AM EST (link). . . I’m not going to get too excited. This feels like a Democrat ploy to settle down any voters in MA who might be thinking of casting a vote for Brown b/c they want to stop HC. Remaining cautiously optimistic, to say the least.
My, my. I'm shocked, SHOCKED I tell you, to...
RedBeard Wednesday, January 13th at 9:06AM EST (link)…find that people here at Redstate have doubts about the openness and honesty of such Democrat leaders as Honest Charlie Rangel.
Standard-bearer for grouchy curmudgeonry since, oh, 1975 or so.
Rangel (D-NY) said,
proudmarinemom Wednesday, January 13th at 9:07AM EST (link)“Normally you’re just dealing with the Senate and they talk about 60 votes and you listen to them and cave in, but this is entirely different.”
Yes, Senator, this is entirely different. This is the most massive power grab in the history of the United States and it is being attempted in an era when the common people (remember them, The People?) are witnessing the theft on their Blackberrys and laptops. It’s harder to screw us over when we can see what you’re doing, isn’t, Chuck?
“Some moms spend their entire lives wondering if smacking their sons up the side of the head ever made a difference. Marine Moms don’t have that problem.”
5 5 (nt)
sharonmcp Wednesday, January 13th at 10:11AM EST (link)“Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.” ~ Ronald Reagan
As a conspirator,
Dan Perrin Wednesday, January 13th at 1:25PM EST (link)running this sort of conspiracy is simply not possible.
It’s as real as it gets.
It is not a coordinated misdirection.
However, one thing is clear: the progressives have no DeMint or Coburn or Nelson or Lieberman who really will bring the bill down if they don’t get their way.
As soon as the progressives concede they will vote for the bill they lose their leverage.
The Progressives simply will not stand on principle.
When the bill first hit the senate,
davidstone Wednesday, January 13th at 2:19PM EST (link)both independents - Sanders and Leiberman - were demanding something. Leiberman wanted the removal of the public option, Sanders did not. Nelson also had demands. Leiberman and Nelson got everything they wanted, Sanders got none of what he wanted.
Sanders voted for the bill, got Jack Squat, and had as much pull as Nelson and Leiberman.
Part of me understands why progressives do not stand on their principles - because their principles are weak and they know it. We all know what progressives stand for. We also know the tactics they use to misinform people (and keep them misinformed) of what they really believe and why it would be good policy. It is easy to stand on conservative principles - because we know it is right - there is strength in KNOWING. We have history and facts to back it up.
American contemporary progressivism is a difficult philosophy to confidently stand up for.
It doesn't require a conspiracy Dan...
AceInTX Wednesday, January 13th at 4:23PM EST (link)What I’m talking about is how they keep trotting out some high level Dem to make it sound like it’s dead….all the while they’re in the back room drinking coffee and hamming it up with the managers who will later come out and announce they’ve swund this vote or that one and it will pass after all…
Kind of like used car salesmen…it’s a well known tactic…as they’re negotiating with you…that you state a number…the salesman says…let me see if I can get my manager to agree to that….he disappears and has a coffee and a bull session in the staff lounge and then comes back and knocks a much smaller number off the original asking price and tells you that’s all his manager will let him do…the only question to be answered is…did the guy even bother talking to his manager to add a little truth to his ruse?
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It's misdirection...
harleygirl Wednesday, January 13th at 9:12AM EST (link)Their intention with these comments is to make everyone complacent and think we are winning so we’ll leave them alone. Keep the pressure on - don’t let up for one single second. Warming up the fax machine now.
If global warming continues, we’re all going to freeze to death.
I understand your disappointment in the outcomes
Dan Perrin Wednesday, January 13th at 1:27PM EST (link)in both the House and the Senate votes.
But the difficulties are real that the Dems are facing — because they have kicked the most difficult issues down the field until the end.
And now they must be dealt with.
Consistency
dwander Wednesday, January 13th at 1:56PM EST (link)Dan,
You’ve been real consistent in your view that this bill will have major problems getting passed. What is your background that gives you such a strong belief?
Thanks for the hope!
I agree the difficulties are real....which is why we should push all the harder
AceInTX Wednesday, January 13th at 4:30PM EST (link)in case they are playing Rope a Dope!
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I agree with EVERYONE who said this is mis-direction...
JadedByPolitics Wednesday, January 13th at 9:21AM EST (link)WE were told this before they voted in the House on a Saturday and WE were told this leading up to the 60 in the Senate when they voted to allow it to go forward and they made these same types of LYING GROANS leading up to the vote on Christmas Eve. This MONSTROSITY will pass and the SLAUGHTER of Congressional Democrats being SENT HOME +80 will be had in November for this NIGHTMARE session of Congress.
Principles before Party in 2010
Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy
Right: As Mentioned Above, Trust Nothing from A Dem
Ausonius Wednesday, January 13th at 9:49AM EST (link)The propaganda war has already been started to sell this monster: Saturday’s headlines here in mainly Republican Columbus, Ohio claimed that things were maybe not all that bad after all in the Hell-th Care bill!
There will be a bill, and the main fear will be how awful it turns out to be: very awful or extremely awful.
Ausonius: 310-395 A.D. Teacher, Poet, Consul, General, Farmer.
Personal Tutor to the future St. Paulinus of Nola and to young Gratian, heir to the throne during the turbulent final years of the Western Roman Empire. When his former student Gratian was assassinated, Ausonius threw up his hands and retired to his farm in Gaul. Rome was captured by barbarians 14 years after his death.
"mainly republican" Columbus OH??
tdpwells Wednesday, January 13th at 10:07AM EST (link)I’m guessing that you live in C-bus? I do, and I’d hardly call it “mainly Republican.” Franklin Co is pretty darn blue.
http://blog.cleveland.com/datacentral/2008/08/Ohio-Presidential-Election-Results-by-County-1992-1996-2000-2004.gif
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I do not believe that the power and duty of the General
Government ought to be extended to the relief of individual
suffering which is in no manner properly related to the
public service or benefit…to the end that the lesson should
be constantly enforced that though the people support the
Government, the Government should not support the people.
Grover Cleveland (16 February 1887)
tdpwells: Yes, and Work in Upper Arlington. Kilroy Was Here Too!
Ausonius Wednesday, January 13th at 10:47AM EST (link)The election of the incredibly bland, inept, and arrogant Mary Jo Kilroy I consider an aberration, like most of the results of 2008.
SRepublican teve Stivers should have a godd shot at making her new middle-name Mary “One-Term” Kilroy!
Ausonius: 310-395 A.D. Teacher, Poet, Consul, General, Farmer.
Personal Tutor to the future St. Paulinus of Nola and to young Gratian, heir to the throne during the turbulent final years of the Western Roman Empire. When his former student Gratian was assassinated, Ausonius threw up his hands and retired to his farm in Gaul. Rome was captured by barbarians 14 years after his death.
Small world
tdpwells Wednesday, January 13th at 11:29AM EST (link)I work not far from you! Think hospital curve.
On the same street as Kilroy’s office, actually.
I go to a lot of local politcal gatherings…makes me wonder if you’re not at some of the same ones. You part of the Conservative Cavalry meetup group? I talked to Stivers at a healthcare debate they held at LaScala several weeks back - he was good, but Robert Wagner stole the show.
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I do not believe that the power and duty of the General
Government ought to be extended to the relief of individual
suffering which is in no manner properly related to the
public service or benefit…to the end that the lesson should
be constantly enforced that though the people support the
Government, the Government should not support the people.
Grover Cleveland (16 February 1887)
All their eggs...
neoavatara Wednesday, January 13th at 9:31AM EST (link)Everything for the Dems lies with health care. They have sacrificed their political futures for the cause. If it falls apart now, all will be lost in their eyes. Watch out for a new level of corruption and underhanded dealings before this thing is over.
http://neoavatara.com/blog/?p=9445
http://www.neoavatara.com/blog
Keep up the pressure is exactly right
renny Wednesday, January 13th at 9:38AM EST (link)It ain’t over till it’s over.
The Senate Majority Leader’s office is (202) 224-3542, Pelosi at the Speaker’s office is (202) 225-0100, Congress is 202-224/225-3121, and the White House is (202) 456-1414.
Tell Reid he’s a racist and should resign. Send support and money to Scott Brown. http://www.scottbrownforussenate.com.
If this bill was really going to be killed, Lierberman should never have voted for cloture in Dec. It would have ended the whole deal. They all make a lot of noise, but most of it is a tale told by an idiot/full of sound and fury/signifying nothing.
I'll believe it...
tdpwells Wednesday, January 13th at 10:03AM EST (link)…when I see it officially off the table and thrown to the wayside. I’m getting sick of all these false alarms about the bill’s imminent demise, only to watch another vote pass on CSPAN. Public opinion could be at 0% and they’d still hammer away at it, trying to come up with a “compromise.”
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I do not believe that the power and duty of the General
Government ought to be extended to the relief of individual
suffering which is in no manner properly related to the
public service or benefit…to the end that the lesson should
be constantly enforced that though the people support the
Government, the Government should not support the people.
Grover Cleveland (16 February 1887)
The damage to
dmartin Wednesday, January 13th at 10:07AM EST (link)the Democrat party is already done, at this point they might just as well pass the thing. I also think Pelosi could force the Senate bill through the house and on to the President as written if she wanted to. Queen Nancy has a huge ego, flushing the house bill down the drain and signing on to the Senate bill will show the world who really wields the power in Washington. Which instinct is stronger in the Queen, party loyalty, or ego?
A brown win in Mass would help her (and us) out of her dilema, but I think it’s a long shot.
So Much For The Visigoth Holiday?
Repair_Man_Jack Wednesday, January 13th at 10:26AM EST (link)That would be awesome! I’d love to see these greedy SOBs kill oneanother’s insufficient schemes. That Visigoth Holiday they intended to have at the expense of the working American - Cancelled!
“smug doesn’t balance a spreadsheet” -Moe lane
And they still have to go for the tax hikes.
johnt Wednesday, January 13th at 10:32AM EST (link)It’s going to be an interesting Spring.
What fools, essentially they repeated the same mistakes the now disgraced Clintons made in ‘93, going for too much, too soon.
A basic rule in D.C., do it in stages, if it’s statist power extension you’ll be a hero to the Media at each stage, great PR, and you will buy in moderate[?] Republicans who will accept any poison in small doses.
What greater argument do you have against government power than that it attracts the stupid. It may even cause stupidity.
“a man’s admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him”. Tocqueville
Exactly.
itrytobenice Wednesday, January 13th at 8:53PM EST (link)They already had SCHIP up to $80,000 in income. They were already 80% of the way there. But that’s not good enough for our statist leaders.
Now I just hope they overstepped far enough to get some real conservatives to DC.
Proper grammar saves lives.
Let’s eat Grandma.
Let’s eat, Grandma.
I don't trust any politician, but
jaydickb Wednesday, January 13th at 10:41AM EST (link)the Dems who voted against health care reform the first time got permission to do so because a yes vote would have been certain political suicide. That hasn’t changed; in fact it may have gotten worse. Any politician’s first interest is getting reelected.
I think a smart Republican could run effectively even against a Dem who voted no by blaming the Dem for the actions of the Dem majority, especially Pelosi. The Dem voted for Pelosi, after all.
We need to be the party of "know"
ColdWarrior Wednesday, January 13th at 11:11AM EST (link)Last night the AZ Republican Party Chairman Randy Pullen gave a brief talk at our monthly Republican legislative district precinct committeeman meeting. Chairman Pullen said polling firms hired by the RNC tell them that the Party will gain fewer seats in the 2010 House and Senate if Obamacare does not ultimately pass in the Congress.
So, what to do if it fails to increase the expected gains in the 2010 elections? One thing we could do is change the old “party of no” phrase to the “party of know.”
We Republicans know what the Constitution says. We know that the American people want the Constitution to be enforced and followed.
We know that 85 per cent of the American people are satisfied with their health care and do not want the government to interfere.
We know that it makes no sense to destroy the best health care industry and system in the world because a few million people in America do not buy health insurance.
We know that the best solutions to achieve better access to health care for Americans is to reduce the involvement of government, not increase it.
We know that Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are badly broken and headed for bankruptcy and need to be fixed before the federal government creates any new government entitlements.
Etc.
Thank you.
ColdWarrior
No More Scozzfavas!
American first, conservative second, Republican precinct committeeman BY NECESSITY!
ThePrecinctProject, so you can say, “I became a precinct committeeman before it was cool.” (Where it all started.)
“No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.” - Edmund Burke
Die bill...just die.
davidstone Wednesday, January 13th at 10:51AM EST (link)Die Die Die Die Die Die Die Die Die Die Die Die
ummmm
charpaddy Wednesday, January 13th at 12:28PM EST (link)what davidstone said….
PLEASE!!! DIE! DIE! DIE!!!
Sorry Dan, I got bit once before, not this time.
The_Gadfly Wednesday, January 13th at 12:41PM EST (link)I’m not believing this monstrosity is dead until January 4, 2011 at the earliest.
We’ve been called racists enough now that it shouldn’t bother us any more.
-AChance, http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/11/03/what-men-may-do-we-have-done/#comment-24463
The final majority is compounded no outsider and few member can tell how
miguel Saavadera Wednesday, January 13th at 2:12PM EST (link)The Dems control both the Senate and House: They are going to get this through because like sharks they smell ‘blood in the water.” They will sell their mother, Grandmother down the stream with this trash …
“The talking that is to decide the result must be done in private committee rooms and behind the closed doors of several committees. The intervals between sessions are filled with a very feverish activity. Messengers run from one meeting to another until the small hours of the morning. Conference follows conference in a way that is likely to bring newspapers correspondents to the verge of despair, it being next to impossible to put the rumors together into any coherent story of what is going on. Only at the rooms of leadership is there any clear knowledge of the situation as a whole; and the excitement of the members of conference rises from sessions to session under the sheer pressure of uncertainty. The final majority is compounded no outsider and few member can tell how.” Woodrow Wilson 1914
“Conference follows conference in a way that is likely to bring newspapers correspondents to the verge of despair, it being next to impossible to put the rumors together into any coherent story of what is going on.”
In plain English the public DOES NOT KNOW WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING ON, and all this gloom and doom and problems inside is a diversionary tactic to give false hope … It does not exist, they just want you to think it exists.
Personally, I putting my bayonet on my musket i.e. “Fix bayonets.”
I just think it's appropriate that Weiner is called Weiner.
itrytobenice Wednesday, January 13th at 8:42PM EST (link)Because seldom in American history has there been a New York Democrat with more reason to be called Weiner than him.
Proper grammar saves lives.
Let’s eat Grandma.
Let’s eat, Grandma.
I have fantasies about
sharonmcp Wednesday, January 13th at 9:04PM EST (link)someone walking up and bitch-slapping that little weiner on national television and then having it replayed over and over on the jumbo-tron in Times Square.
“Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.” ~ Ronald Reagan
'Squeal like a pig' is from Deliverance
ashland_avenue Wednesday, January 13th at 9:31PM EST (link)Funny choice of words by Weiner.
The term was used in film Deliverance.
This from Wikipedia:
After a stray comment about moonshine offends the hillbillies, Bobby is forced at gunpoint to strip naked. McKinney’s character chases after and physically harasses Bobby as he tries to escape. His ear is twisted to bring him to his hands and knees, and he is then ordered to “squeal like a pig”….. Ed is bound to a tree with his own belt, helpless….
link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deliverance
Why on earth would a Democratic congressman use the term to describe a meeting of his own party’s Senators?
I guess he just realized what he was getting, Ashland.
nessa Wednesday, January 13th at 9:45PM EST (link)Of course its the same thing the American people are getting from the healthcare debate…
I leave the remainder of this comment box for each reader to fill in using his own imagination.
If you haven’t seen Deliverance put “squeal like a pig” in your search engine and watch the video, wiki doesn’t do it, or the healthcare debate, justice.
“If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
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I actually cleaned it up
ashland_avenue Wednesday, January 13th at 10:32PM EST (link)I struggled with being respectful and avoiding profanity. Anthony Weiner apparently didnt.
LOL Ashland, its hard to use Deliverance and keep it clean
nessa Wednesday, January 13th at 10:45PM EST (link)at the same time. That movie has been a staple of barracks humor since its release. Of course barracks humor will get you banned around here long before you hit the punchline. Hell, i thought about posting the video but decided decency was the better part of valor in this instance.
“If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Contributor to The Minority Report
teh twitter
I really enjoy the part when....
voteindy Wednesday, January 13th at 10:48PM EST (link)Burt Reynolds is screaming like a little girl as they go down the rapids.
LOL