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Republican Hypocrisy and Borking Elena Kagan

During the Bush Administration, there was a huge outcry by Republican Senators, who had the majority at the time, railing against Democratic techniques to hold up judicial nominees.  Only the concerted efforts of a group of “moderates” on both sides avoided the dreaded “nuclear option.”    Today, the roles are reversed and Republicans have resorted to the very tactics they objected to on the part of the Democrats circa 2004.  This smacks of a little bit juvenile behavior and whole lot of hypocrisy.

Then, the argument was that nominees deserved an up-or-down vote on the Senate floor.  They aregued that the nominees were qualified for the Federal bench.  Today, save a few, rare, extreme cases, no one can necessarily argue the legal credentials of Obama appointees.

And what are the criteria?  First, all ethical questions must be answered to the satisfaction of the Judiciary Committee.  Much of this achieved through financial disclosures and FBI background checks.  Do they pay their taxes?  Did they hire some illegal immigrant to cut their lawn?  Were they ever arrested?

Secondly, their legal credentials must be of the top order.  The American Bar Association does a fine job of looking at their credentials and assigning a grade.  But, because the ABA is influenced by politics, any score lower than a “B” should be further scrutinized by the Judiciary Committe for these political influneces and ABA objections investigated when the nominee testifies.  This way, the Senate does not outsource their investigative duties in this area to an allegedly independent body like the ABA.

Also, the Committee needs to look at their academic writings and, if a judge, their previous opinions to to cull some predictive political ideology, but to gauge their abilities to legally reason.  Two observations are in order at this point.  Some quarters are taking note of the fact that Elena Kagan was not a judge and has no judicial experience.  Some view this in a negative light.  However, nowhere is it written that being a sitting judge is a necessary prerequiste to becoming a Supreme Court Justice.  Many great Justices joined the Court without judicial experience.  Three recent examples are Byron White, Lewis Powell, and Chief Justice William Rehnquist.  On the other hand, some argue that having a nominee from outside the judiciary allows for some empathy litmus test.  Obama likes to insinuate that this is desireable in a nominee as if this person has some special abilities.  Both arguments are equally faulty.

A lot has been mentioned about the demographics of the bench.  For example, embarrassing commentators like Pat Buchanan like to note that Jews may make up 2% of the American population, but 33% of the Supreme Court if Kagan is confirmed.  Here is a news flash for Pat Buchanan: the other 67% are Roman Catholic.  OH!  The horrors- no Protestants on the Supreme Court.  This argument is akin to the argument that there must be a black on the Supreme Court.  Again, it is written nowhere that the Supreme Court need be reflective of society in general.  Does it really matter if every Justice was black as long as they reached a reasoned decision.  Remember that it was an all-white Court which had the greatest impact on civil rights litigation in this country. Then there are the ridiculous musings about the Ivy League backgrounds of the current Court.  To say or insinuate that Ivy League schools necessarily churn out liberal lawyers is to deny the reality of the situation.  Would anyone dare describe Roberts, Scalia, Alito or Thoas as conservatives?  Yet, they all received their law degrees from Ivy League schools.  And again, so what?  This notion of forced diversity on the Court- whether espoused by liberal or conservative, Democrat or Republican- is both ludicrous and hypocritical.

The third, and probably most troublesome criteria falls under the heading of judicial temperament. And it is under this category that the notion of ideology comes into play.  However, by the term “temperament,” one needs to determine whether they can decide cases on the merits of that case given the available case law.  Unfortunately, because of Democratic and Republican turn-coat (Arlen Specter) badgering of more-than-qualified candidates like Robert Bork, the new standard is not to take stances on issue because “it might come before the Court.”  This tactic has been used by Republican and Democratic nominees ever since.

Elena Kagan actually wrote a law review article decrying this strategy.  Whether Republicans press her on this issue and attempt to portray her as a hypocrite remains to be seen.  But suffice to say, there is a big difference between being a Supreme Court nominee and the academic musings in a law school review.

Likewise, already there is tremendous uproar over Kagan’s memos while a law clerk for Thurgood Marshall, while a member of the Clinton White House, and while Solicitor General.  A perfunctory review thus far shows that Kagan is adaptable to her boss at the time.  For example, her memos while a law clerk for Mrashall would lead one to believe she is a hell-bent liberal activist.  But, are the memos reflective of her personal views or were they tailored to meet those of her boss?  In the Clinton administration, some of her memos, especially those on the technicalities of an abortion law, would lead one to conclude Kagan was more centrist and politically adept.  And say what you will about Clinton, he was certainly politically adept.  While Solicitor General, the office represents the government’s view.  They may personally and plausibly disagree with the stance on particular issues, but have to do so anyway.  For example, lets assume Kagan is, for the sake of argument, a stone cold liberal, card-carrying member of the ACLU and supports an absolute separation of church and state.  Yet Kagan’s office defended the government’s actions in this term’s Salazar case that allowed a cross to remain on federal property.  To believe that something can be weened from all this to allow us to reliably predict how Kagan will define a particular case before her misses the point entirely.  It is as if the the Republican Party is attempting to Bork nominee Kagan.

The point is to give Kagan a fair and honest hearing and then if the votes are there in committee, to move her nomination to the Senate floor.  There, the up-or-down vote on her nomination- something Republicans requested during the Bush administration- would take place.  Whether the vote is 59-41 or 100-0 for confirmation is of little consequence other than a historical footnote.  The bottom line is that unless the nominee is some unethical, uneducated radical, they should be afforded at least a fuyll Senate vote.  It is what the Republican Party lamented six short years ago and what they should carry through on now.

It is difficult to determine what any nominee will do once they are seated on the Supreme Court.  Whoever would have thought that Warren and Brennan would have become such hard core liberals?  Or that Byron White and Lewis Powell would become more conservative?  Or, more recently that David Souter would join the liberal wing of the Court.  It is best to remember that Kagan will be but one voice out of nine and one that does not control the agenda of the Court.  If Republican fears are realized, she is but one liberal replacing another liberal.  The conservative wing is not going anywhere soon and the wild card- Anthony Kennedy- rrelishes his role too much to consider leaving.  Any retirements by these five Justices would upset the balance on the Court, not Elena Kagan.  It also remains to be seen under whose sway Kagan will fall once on the Court.

The Republicans should adhere to a policy of moving judicial nominees quickly through the confirmation process- say, a 90-day limit- barring any unforeseen “surprises” as a result of the investigative process.  Then the nominee should be voted upon by the full Senate after some pre-determined amount of debate.  This is not the proper battleground for Republicans.  To delay her a vote on the Senate floor would be hypocritical given past Republican arguments regarding the judicial confirmation process.  But most importantly, a principled approach in thia area would lay the groundwork for the high road down the line while proving “bipartisanship” in the short term.  This will make greater sense in about two years when a Republican again occupies the White House and is making judicial appointments.  In 2012, Republicans can look Democrats in the eye and remind them of 2010.  If they blink, then it is they who will look like the hypocrite.

COMMENTS

  • Martin Knight

    First of all, Elena Kagan is not being “Borked.” She’s not having her trash, phone and video rental records trawled through. She has not had her credit reports leaked or the embarrassing misdeeds of members of her family made public knowledge. She’s not having her childrens’ adoption records “researched.” She’s not been called a racist, sexist, segregationist or a rapist on national television. She’s not had entire organizations like the PFAW, NAACP and AFJ organize and coordinate a massive campaign of character assassination on her.

    That’s “Borking” – and it’s a uniquely Democratic practice, mostly because it actually requires the active cooperation of the very liberal Beltway Press Corps.

    And as for your “hypocrisy” charge; the rules have been set and the GOP is playing by them. Thanks to John McCain and his silly Gang of 14, the GOP’s attempt to ensure that every nominee got an up/down vote in the Senate failed. PS: The Nuclear Option would only have eliminated the filibuster for Presidential Nominations while leaving it intact for legislation – respecting the Article I and II prerogatives of both the Senate and the Presidency within their constitutional bounds.

    Let’s be clear here, Democrats insisted on blocking President Bush’s judicial nominations and fought like hell to keep the ability to continue. Scores of Courts of Appeal seats were left unfilled and of course, as a gesture of the “Bipartisanship” and “moderation” you so worship and, certainly, the fawning interviews on TV sure to follow, McCain happily jettisoned half-a-dozen extremely well qualified nominees as part of his megalomaniacal Gang of 14 deal.

    In other words, Republicans are playing by the exact same rules the Democrats fought for and won. How the hell can that be hypocritical? Why are the Democrats not hypocritical for demanding that the GOP allow up/down votes when they did no such thing when the President was a Republican?

    I honestly find it hilarious that you think Democrats would actually reciprocate the GOP rolling over. They never have. Or did it somehow escape your notice that the GOP did not put Stephen Breyer or Ruth Ginsberg through the wringer even after what the Democrats did to Clarence Thomas? How did the Democrats return the favor when Roberts and Alito came up? Did you miss Chuck Schumer declaring that ideology is no longer verboten as a determining factor for the past eight years?

    By your logic it’s hypocritical (and therefore wrong) for Republicans to block Democratic nominees but it’s somehow not hypocritical for Democrats to block Republican nominees.

    I repeat; the Democrats went all out to set the rules of judicial confirmation – they began the practice of wholesale filibusters and blocks. They fought hard against the reform of these rules and won. Now they get to experience it from the other end.

    Them’s da rulez.

    • ocleverone

      Very well done.

    • http://impudent.blognation.us/blog kyle8

      Right now there is no hypocrisy, there is only a balanced desire to keep another horrible liberal out of the court. Although it is doomed to fail, because a horrible liberal is the only sort whom Obama will nominate.

    • Tanggor

      If I could recommend a comment, this one would be it.

      Perhaps a humble nobody like me could request a rebuttal diary?

      I know I’m not qualified to write it.

      This stupid “Republican Hypocrisy” meme is likely to come up a lot.

      • E Pluribus Unum

        RedState is a pretty forgiving audience to those whose heart is in the right place.

        • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack

          Anyone, anyone, Bueller?

    • E Pluribus Unum

      It would not be possible for me to agree more than 100%.

      I am sick to death of the reflexively cowardly stance adopted by the Republicans in Washington, the Senate caucus being the absolute worst of a bad bunch. This is a time for bold strokes and history-changing men and women.

    • itrytobenice

      but I *heartily* recommend this comment.

  • E Pluribus Unum

    Sorry pal. This argument comes from the ‘do unto others as you would have them do unto you’ school of politics. That’s admirable on a personal level. But not on a political level. We are not playing ‘red team against blue team’ where each side has its merits that balance out, and at the end of the day everybody goes home and life is normal.

    No.

    This game is for the Constitution. We have to win these fights, or America loses its own country, its own heritage, and the rule of law. The Dems filiibustered, and I am firmly convinced that is against the Constitution. But that was a debate, and THEY WON THAT DEBATE.

    They have established that the filibuster is a perfectly acceptable way to reject judicial nominees, and that purely ideological disagreements were also subject to the filibuster. Since that is now the established way, we get to follow it and use it to our advantage.

    It is nonsensical and suicidal to hold ourselves to that standard, when they won the debate.

    Oh, and hypocritical, shmypocritical. Who cares. What would John Adams do, and what would James Madison do? I submit that they would have taken the Democrat strategy, and hoisted them on it.

    • Diogenes314

      1) Accusing the GOP of “Borking” Kagen or anyone else isn’t one of them. If she is opposed it will be on her record and/or lack of one, not on manufactured smears or hyperbolic non-issues.
      2) There is absolutely nothing wrong with giving her a fair hearing and then voting en masse against her as being unqualified. She pretty much is. On the other hand…
      3) Does anyone expect someone better from the Empty Suit to replace her? I guarantee the next nominee will be worse-possibly someone with ideology, stature and ability. A non-entity is probably the best we’re getting.

      As far as Filibustering…

      4) What is the end game-two plus years of continuous nomination hearings and a cudgel for the Pelosistas to use in November and 2012?
      5) At the very minimum, you’re giving the Pelosistas a desperately needed issue for the fall election right when their flailing and foaming at the mouth. Politically speaking, there’s pretty much no upside.
      6) Is it ‘hypocritical’. Not in the slightest. These are the rules they made (with help from their lapdogs like McClown) Aside from ‘turnabout being fair play’ or poetic justice, it is entirely legitimate to use rules that they created.
      7) Is there something to said for maintaining our integrity in the face of a corrupted process? Absolutely. Oppose her vote against her en masse, and adhere to the principle that elections have consequences, and this is one of them. That would be my preference, but we can agree to disagree.
      And BTW…

      8) Does anyone in their right mind think we can actually get 40 votes against cloture?
      9) I’m posting this as a response here because I respect your opinion.

      As opposed to whoever wrote the OP.

      • E Pluribus Unum

        Given the state of affairs, I am no longer willing to play for tomorrow, play for next year. We don’t have next year.

        Kagan is unfit, by every metric possible. We filibuster her. If we can’t get the41, well, it does not succeed (and frankly, we have behind-the-scenes butt-kickings if that happens). If the nomination fails and they nominate somebody worse (which they certainly will), then we dig in, and filibuster that one, and the next one, until either Bambi nominates a moderate, or we win the presidency back in 2012.

        The press already hates us, and frankly I think we have reached the point where the damage they can inflict is minimal – they’ve reached a point of diminishing returns. So we weather it. I don’t think it costs us much this November, and posslbly strengthens our hand.

        And while your arguments as to what this does to 2012 are valid, in my view we simply have to press on with the war, do what is right, and face the consequences.

        • Diogenes314

          It’s 2010-in particular the Senate races. The fact is there is no way we can actually block this nominee, but I can see how the Pelosistas and their MSM allies can use an attempt to do so against us in the fall. Even with Kagen on the Court, we’re just swapping a Old loser for a young one, it won’t materially affect the Court balance. If we merely try and fail to block Kagen and lose 2 or 3 Senate seats, then it could come back to bite us when there is a chance to block an unqualified ideologue.

          Again, I’m only talking about Filibustering Kagen. Going to the mat after November when we have a majority or Cloture proof minority is another subject-as is doing everything within the rules to keep ideologues off of the district and appeals courts. It may just be electoral strategy-but you have to get elected before you can get things done. Or prevent things from getting done to us.

          • E Pluribus Unum

            I know what you mean, Dio. But no matter WHAT we do, we give them ammo of some kind. Screw it. The right has its own avenues of getting the word out, our own media, the tea parties, online stuff,FNC, all that. We simply CANNOT run scared of the media anymore, even if they successfully use what we do against us.

            We failed to mount any resistance to cabinet members, obvious thieves like Eric Holder. So then they openly flaunted the law and brought out a rogue’s gallery of czars that would have done Capone proud.

            If we had given Holder the ride of his life, we would not have stopped his nomination. But we would have caused them some fear of nominating people too far out there (like that little fecal-head that Bambi just put on the NRLB by recess appointment).

            We have to declare war. And while it’s somewhat uphill, DeMint and crew I think have a SHOT at getting the 41. McConnell has no stomach for this fight (or any other than might break a nail), but DeMint does, and he’s fast becoming the de facto minority leader.

            I refuse to care what the media will say. Caring what they say has a whole lot to do with how we got where we are. I’d rather go down with guns blazing that simply be led to the gallows, one step at a time.

          • Diogenes314

            I haven’t seen any sign that DeMint is even on board with this. And Sessions would be even more important. But at the minimum you can count on Collins and Snowe stabbing us in the back, and you can’t trust McClown on anything.

            As an aside, the only thing I’m certain about all of this is that even if J.D. Hayworth were as stupid, corrupt and incompetent as some like to portray him, I’d vote for him just because of the fact we wouldn’t even be talking about this if not for McClown.

  • davenj1

    the point of this diary entry was that if the Republican Party is to block, obstruct and trivialize this nomination with concerns over her softball batting stance, they are acting like Democrats. I have no problem with standing on principle, but you are fighting a losing battle and one that puts Republicans in a bad light. And Republicans should NOT stoop to the low-life tactics of Democrats. Someone mentioned this is politics. Exactly! It isn’t the kindergarten playground where everything is tit-for-tat with a bunch of tattle tales on the sidelines. Borking, to me, is playground tactics. I was hoping responses to this post would be representative of a more mature Republican than some of the responses.

    • Martin Knight

      Borking, to me, is playground tactics.

      You can rest easy then, since Kagan is not being Borked. Who’s actually making an issue of her softball batting stance? Name one Republican Senator or House Member doing so … Is the Heritage Foundation running ads featuring Kagan holding a bat?

      What you’re advocating is unilateral surrender, and no, it’s not a “mature” position, it’s a cowardly one. The idea that by rolling over that the Democrats would come to feel shame and stop the campaigns of calumny and character assassination that start up every time a Republican President nominates someone to the courts is idiotic because it ignores history from the moment Ted Kennedy stood up to give his “Robert Bork’s America” speech.

      And I’d really like to see some evidence of Republicans being put in a bad light because they’re playing by the same rules the Democrats fought to put in place. Last I checked, it didn’t stop the Democrats from winning both Houses of Congress.

  • davenj1

    Choose your battles correctly, my friends. Knee-jerk conservatism is no different than knee-jerk liberalism. Elena Kagan does not represent a battle over the future of the Constitution. The House is definitely in our sights with the Senate and White House soon to follow in two years. Don’t blow it in the name of stopping one possibly stealth liberal Supreme Court nominee replacing another liberal Supreme Court Justice. You may be seeing bogeymen where no exists.

    • itrytobenice

      So a socialist who has not the slightest concern for the Constitution getting a lifetime appointment to the SC is not important but an election that’s only good for 2 years is?

      I’m looking at 40 years of living under a black robed master who hates my country’s basic premise for existing. I’ll not live long enough to survive it. My kids will be old before she dies. No. This is a hill to die on.

      Are you even thinking?

    • ocleverone

      I can think of two bad examples where SCOTUS overreached and did impact the Constitution.

      Roe v Wade
      Kelo v New London

      • Achance
        • eburke
          • Achance

            sometimes that is what’s really going on; not an idiot, not a troll, just one of those people who can’t bear to be around all that anger and agression.

    • Jack_Savage

      There is no such thing as “knee jerk conservatism”, first of all. And you know which battles I choose? Every damn one of them, from school board to Congress to Senate to President. People like you wait and wait and wait for that “special occasion”, much like a grandmother waits to pull out the special china, until all the battles are won by the left and all we have left is dividing up crumbs.

      Elena Kagan represents the same Ivy – League, under qualified Democrat that we have in the White House. We eviscerate Obama by proxy when we eviscerate her.

      • Jack_Savage

        To wit:

        “It is best to remember that Kagan will be but one voice out of nine and one that does not control the agenda of the Court.”

        No, pal, but have you ever heard of a decision that went 5-4?

    • mbecker908

      1. Don’t be assuming we’re your friends.
      2. While you’re correct about “choosing your battles correctly”, THIS is a battle to draw a line in the sand for.
      3. Kagan is wholly unacceptable, she’s certainly NOT a stealth nominee.

      You need to take a very long walk off of a very short pier.

  • eburke

    I would suggest that you wait oh…let’s say another 9 years before you post another diary.

    I’ve reader more illogical, naive diaries than this before…I just can’t remember when.

    • cactusjack

      & advise you listen and ponder. You just would have to have been there and seen the Clarence Thomas nomination hearings on TV , where everyone could see (if they chose to) the Dem Senators in action , to understand how nasty-dirty the Dems can play when they want something bad. NARAL pays those guys’ bills, and really jerked the chain on them to resist Thomas by every means, every lie, every innuendo, they could fabricate or allude. Then of late on the health care vote, the Dems revealed what most of us who visit RS already suspected – they (Dems) are all the same, and all cowards when it comes to legislative integrity. Stupak, Hoyer, Skelton, Pelosi,Waters, whereever on the spectrum you think they may be – you can’t trust a one of them now. Not one. It’s just the truth.

      • cactusjack

        wrong, eburke. But you get my meaning.

      • eburke
    • pilgrim

      http://www.redstate.com/davenj1/2010/06/12/the-christie-way-a-moral-path-for-republicans/

      It takes a while sometimes to figure a noob to RS out. I won’t judge him from one diary alone.

      • eburke

        than davenj1 ’cause there’s no way they were both written by the same person.

        One so thoughtful and dead-on; the other? well….idiotic and naive.

        Go figure.

  • bk

    But I’m not sure about some of your comparisons. Wasn’t Powell much like Kennedy is, pretty much of a moderate? White was like that to some extent, not hard core to either side really. Their background didn’t make it look like they’d be liberals did it? So I’m not sure either was that huge a surprise in general, just maybe on an occasional case here and there. On the other hand, we’ve seen nominees from Republican presidents who became pretty much 100% lined up with the liberal wing of the court in short order. So it does seem fair to assume that nominees will slip to the left of what’s anticipated once they join the court if they slip at all.

    The Democrats will use the arguments you indicated, but several of them seem to be red herrings. When it comes to Clinton and abortion for example, he had to take political considerations into account and needed to compromise in order to get closer to what he really wanted. A justice on the Supreme Court would like to convince other justices he or she is right, but they don’t need to compromise like a president would. So if she helped Clinton with some compromises because it was the best he could get through Congress, she doesn’t have to worry about such limitations on the Supreme Court.

    As to the stalling involved, the Senate could vote in rules like Arlen Specter pushed for before he switched back to the Ds. Nominees get a committee hearing within X number of days, a committee vote within X number of days, etc. through confirmation or rejection. Have it take effect in 2011 or 2013 so that current political strength doesn’t matter.

  • Martin Knight

    There once was a time when all that mattered were a nominee’s qualifications and ethics. Scalia had a whistle-clean background and one of the most brilliant legal minds of his generation. Back then, not even the most liberal of Senators could vote against Scalia with a straight face. Now it’s an entirely different issue.

    Ted Kennedy’s assault on Robert Bork in the well of the Senate, the deliberate misrepresentation of the man’s views by Nan Aron and Co., the supporting media campaign (with Gregory Peck no less), not to mention the news media’s active assistance in the character assassination, was the turning point.

    Now why would Ted Kennedy decide to inject his poison into a process that had served nominees of Presidents of both parties so well – with respect for the nominees as jurists, and human beings and respect for the President and the constitution that gives him the prerogative of nominating judges?

    Because he looked across the aisle and saw Arlen Specter, Robert Matthias, Bob Packwood, John Chafee, etc, and saw no downside. With those sort of people on the GOP’s side there was certainly no way it would have any negative consequences on a Democratic President’s nominees.

    And, of course, that’s exactly how it happened. Democrats were free to unleash hell on Republican nominees, wreak havoc on their families and destroy their reputations while being able to count on “moderate” Republicans to be on TV waxing pathetic about “Bipartisanship” and being “mature” when the shoe was on the other foot.

    What this meant is that Democrats suffered absolutely no consequences for their behavior in the Senate. And none from the electorate thanks to the media. Which means that they’re never going to stop. Ever. That is; unless the GOP responds and stops it being a cost-free exercise for them – we simply can’t allow them to maul our nominees at will while we roll over in the hope that they will one day feel shame at our saintly displays of because “Bipartisanship” and show mercy.

    In other words, even knowing that there is practically no chance of stopping Kagan of being confirmed to the Supreme Court and that she is replacing a liberal, the GOP is well served by showing its teeth. Promising retribution is more likely to lead to a return to the days when a nominee would only have to worry about his qualifications, not whether or not his wife’s twenty year old DUI would find its way to the front page of the New York Times.