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The Presidency and Senate 2012: Early Prediction

Happy Easter to all RedState readers.

On this day, while there is a lull in politics- unless you are watching the Sunday morning talk shows- it would be good to look at where the race for the Presidency and the Senate stands at this point in time. Most of this is based upon the most recent polling data from a variety of sources specific to each state.

Basically, I decided to divide the country into five broad geographical regions and look at the race for President in each state in those areas and also any Senate races in 2012 in those states.

WEST: There are 104 electoral votes up for grabs in these states. It is estimated that Obama will garner 78 of those electoral votes with Romney, the presumptive GOP nominee, winning Alaska, Arizona, Utah and Nevada. Republicans stand to pick up no Senate seats here either as incumbents Diane Feinstein (CA) and Maria Cantwell (WA) should win their reelection bids. In the open Democratic seat in Hawaii, expect the Democratic nominee, probably Mazie Hirono to defeat Republican Linda Lingle. I am also predicting at this time that incumbent Republicans Orrin Hatch (UT) and Dean Heller (NV) will win reelection. For the open Arizona seat of John Kyl, look for Flake to defeat Carmona keeping the seat Republican. Hence, the Republicans pick up no seats out west and defend their three seats.

MOUNTAIN WEST: In this region, Romney will likely pull 63 of the available 68 electoral votes with New Mexico being the only loss. In fact, I am calling, at this point, Colorado to move into the Romney column. In the Senate races, two are open Democratic held seats- New Mexico and North Dakota. Assuming Heinrich defeats Balderas for the nod in New Mexico to run against Republican Heather Wilson, I expect this to remain in the Democratic column. Up in North Dakota, Rick Berg will win for the GOP thus flipping this state. Likewise, Rehberg will take down Tester in Montana. In the open Texas seat held by Republicans, the Republican nominee will win keeping the seat in GOP hands while the GOP retains the seat in Wyoming. Hence, Republicans pick up two Senate seats in this region.

MIDWEST: Mitt Romney will garner 45 of the available 119 electoral votes in this area. Although flipping Iowa, he will lose the upper midwest states of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Ohio. In the Senate races, Democrats should keep their seats in Michigan, Minnesota, and Ohio while Republicans will retain their seat in Indiana assuming Lugar is the candidate. If it is Mourdock, then all bets are off. Clair McCaskill will lose to the eventual GOP nominee in Missouri (she trails all three potential candidates). Likewise, in open seats currently held by Democrats, whoever runs for the GOP in Nebraska will defeat Bob Kerry and assuming Tommy Thompson runs against Tammy Baldwin in Wisconsin, expect this state to also flip to the Republicans. The result is that the Republicans pick up three Senate seats in this region.

SOUTH: In this area, expect Mitt Romney to take 102 of the possible 130 electoral votes. The two seats held by Republicans- Tennessee and Mississippi- will remain in Republican hands. In the Florida race, I believe, based on a rather decent database of polls, that Bill Nelson will keep his seat in a squeaker against Connie Mack IV. In Virginia, in what should be a barn burner of a race for an open Democratic seat, I believe Tim Kaine will win that one, also keeping the seat in Democratic hands. The result is no Senate pick-ups for the GOP in the South.

NORTHEAST: Mitt Romney will take 29 of the available 117 electoral votes here- New Hampshire, West Virginia, and Pennsylvania. Of the eight incumbent Democratic Senators, they will likely all be reelected. For the open Connecticut seat, I am calling this one for the Democrats at this point although it all depends on who runs against who. Assuming a Shays-Murphy match-up, then Murphy will win in a close race. Among the two Republican seat races, again based on a decent database of polling data, Scott Brown will prevail in Massachusetts. In the open seat in Maine, it is unclear who the nominees for either party will be at this point. Because of that, I am just going to mark it in the GOP column at this point only because the strongest Democratic names have opted out of the race (Pingree and Michaud). The result is that there will be no pick ups or losses in this region.

In the final analysis, Obama wins reelection with 273 electoral votes to Romney’s 265. Also, Republicans will pick up five seats in the Senate thus flipping the upper chamber to Republican control. Not analyzed, but predicted, is the GOP retention of control of the House, although by a smaller majority as they should lose about ten seats.

Of course, a lot can change between now and November. However, a silver lining could be found even if Obama wins reelection. He would not only have to contend with a Republican-controlled Congress, but his electoral margin of victory would be threadbare clearly indicating no mandate for his policies. With perhaps a stronger GOP Presidential candidate (no…not Rick Santorum), this could have been a sweep for the Republicans and exclamation mark on the repudiation of Obama’s policies.

COMMENTS

  • glockg22shoots40s

    … would be A REPUBLICAN SENATE AND HOUSE!!! 4 years of Obama vetos would be soooo much better than 4 more years of a Republican House cowering and giving in to liberal policies thrown at them by a democratically held Senate. It’d also be nice to see the Senate actually pass a budget bill again… what a concept!

    • davenj1

      plus sets up 2014 Senate races which again disadvantage the Democratic incumbents. Additionally, it allows four years for a strong Republican to step forward as the standard-bearer for the 2016 President’s race. Hence, if Obama wins, don’t despair and I would certainly put my money on winning the Senate rather than the Presidency!

      • APA Guy

        If the importance of winning the presidency re: SCOTUS isn’t highlighted by the recent health care arguments (and increasingly likely overturning of a terrible law), I don’t know if it ever will be.

        • littlehouse18

          not to mention foreign policy/national security, and extra-constitutional power grabs in the executive branch.

        • johnconradarens

          with the help of The House of Sununu to pick rock-solid conservatives…

          …like that extreme Originalist David Souter. Yippee…

        • johnconradarens

          His record is abysmal, and everyone knows it. This dispels all of the typical alignments. I can’t see Obama doing any better this year than Dukkakis did in ’88, which means between 165-185 electoral votes. Not a single vote more.

          Yes, Romney is a weak, weak, nominee, and he’s done enormous damage to the GOP, but, Obama is weaker. It is simply papered over by the mainstream press.

          The possibility exists, by the way, that Obama wins the popular vote, ala Gore, and loses the Electoral Vote. And, thankfully, all of the radical-lib states that passed the “Popular Vote” initiative were already Blue, so who cares.

          • clintonformccain

            Barry is going to do a lot better in November than Dukakis.

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    “Virginia, in what should be a barn burner of a race for an open Democratic seat, I believe Tim Kaine will win that one, also keeping the seat in Democratic hands. The result is no Senate pick-ups for the GOP in the South.”

    Oh, come on. Allen’s up and early polls usually undercount GOP strength.

    http://hamptonroads.com/2012/03/poll-allen-leads-kaine-4644-virginia-senate-race

    And indep King will win in Maine.

    Romney winning PA but losing the election? Not likely. More likely he wins OH but loses PA, as happened in 2004. If Romney wins the states Bush won in 2004, he’ll make it.

    I’d predict – hopefully – that we win Florida and Ohio both. They are the two most important battleground states. Win the Senate races and the EVs and the 2012 campaign is won.

    This will be a close race. Obama has many advantages but his record is a poor one and he deserves to be fired.

    • APA Guy

      The key for us will be FL…we need to grab that state and its 29 EVs. That makes Obama’s path to victory virtually non-existent. If Obama loses PA, he’s finished…period.

      • naraht

        A Democratic victory without PA is just as unlikely as a Republican victory without Ohio.

    • davenj1

      It will be a close race for sure. Just got a feeling Kaine will pull it off. Also, Obama’s approval ratings are lower in PA than in OH. Both races will be close and I don’t think Romney will take both. If he does, he wins the election. Yay! But I don’t see that happening.

  • Viet71

    Given the even number of electoral votes and the tightness of the race.

    That would throw the election in the House of Representatives.

    President Obama, you have to go with the House you have, not the House you wish you had.

    • APA Guy

      270towin.com has the EVs currently as follows:

      Obama 196
      GOP Candidate 181

      Toss-ups: NV, CO, NM, IA, MO, WI, MI, OH, PA, NH, VA, NC, FL

      That means we need an additional 89 EVs to, at minimum, force a tie.

      I cannot envision a scenario where Obama wins OH, VA, MO or NC this time around…that adds 56…33 to go.

      I’m also not liking Obama’s chances in NH..especially with Romney as our candidate. That adds 4…29 to go.

      Winning FL puts us at 270…and a combination of PA and WI makes it an outright win. I can easily see us winning those states if he economy continues its course. Both of those states have seen mass defections of Dems in the past 4 years.

      These scenarios presume that we won’t pick up NM/NV/CO and/or IA…not a given either.

      I like our path to victory much better than Obama’s. If we win VA, NC, MO, OH and FL, we win…period…and 4 out of 5 of those are virtual certainties IMHO. FL and its legions of seniors counting on SS and MC are the real wild card here. But we have alternative paths to election Obama does not enjoy. That has to have him sweating as the general draws closer nd higher gas season closes in.

      • exitsfunnel

        but that is a pretty wildly optimistic read on the state of play. You’re giving Romney VA, NC, MO and OH as virtual certainties? NC and MO look pretty good but everything I’ve seen in OH and VA puts Obama up between 5 and 12 head to head against Romney. OH particularly is a bad state for Romney who is probably the one guy who can’t take advantage of the problem Obama has with low income white voters. This is why I think that Rob Portman is a likely pick for VP.

        Don’t kid yourself. Unless the economy nose dives or something unforeseen happens (scandal, etc), this is Obama’s election to lose. Personally I’ll be focusing on the senate.

        -exits

        • acat

          Tell me we’re not still in a lousy economy…

          NC, Romney benefits because the travails of Gov. Perdue (D-imbecile) will help the GOP… OH I think leans Obama at this point.

          Keep in mind, in 2008 Obama won in part due to the youth vote .. and while they showed up “to make history”, they’re remarkably unreliable at showing up “for the establishment”… and for all his hoodie-wearin’ #OWS-lovin’ outreach, Obama’s the establishment now.

          Mew

          • exitsfunnel

            I don’t think that people vote on the numbers themselves; they vote on their general perception (based mostly on the input from the media) of where the economy is, and where they think it’s headed. Right now the general perception is that the worst is behind us and that things are getting better. The last jobs number wasn’t great but it wasn’t awful either and the two before that both beat expectations handily.

            If the election were tomorrow Obama would have a story to tell about how he saved the country from the second great depression and that the worst of it is over and how the unemployment rate ticks down every month blah blah blah. Believe me, I’m not agreeing with any of this, I’m just saying that unless the economy really tanks, I don’t think that it’s nearly the issue for the GOP candidate that it seemed like it was going to be 18 months ago.

            -exits

          • exitsfunnel

            I meant to add that I do agree about NC. I think that even without the Perdue stuff, that was going to go for the GOP this cycle. I think that MO probably as well. Frankly, I don’t expect that Obama will make a concerted effort in either state.

            -exits

          • acat

            that a lot of folk are overlooking, I think.

            Trust in the media.

            Haven’t seen any studies recently, but my “impression” is that it’s down – significantly – from 2008. People aren’t as likely to trust the media telling them that the economy is getting better, that Obama has saved us, etc. etc.

            Gas prices remain high.
            The jobs market remains stagnant or worse.
            Effective take-home pay is down.
            Folks haven’t gotten a raise in years, but health care and gas prices continue to climb…

            Media reports about “green shoots” and “unemployment is down” and “things are getting better” is contradicted by what people see every day. In a captive market, where the media is the only source of information, this may work .. but the internet has changed the game.

            As for Ohio, it’s going to depend, a lot more than I’d like, on whether the Ohio GOP can pull their heads out and run good candidates… inverse-coattails effects.

            I will note that I think WI is in play, and *if* Scott Walker can successfully exploit the division between “skirt” and “hard hat” unions, it may set up WI to vote not-Obama… especially if the organizer-in-chief visibly opposes Walker…

            Mew

          • gekster

            They said the Bush economy was worsr than Hubert Hoover.
            Well this economy is worse than Bush’s

          • acat

            You know they’re going to try to fob it off on Bush…

            Mew

          • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

            I don

        • garfieldjl

          Ever read the book Animal Farm, Democrat voters often remind me of the sheep from that book. “Four legs good, two legs bad.”

          Anyways, if the states that traditionally go Democrat would suddenly swing for Romney, they would swing for Gingrich and possibly Santorum as well.

          Our best bet is to be able to build our candidate up, not simply tear at Obama (which is important but we need to be able to give people reasons to vote FOR the Republican).

          Who do you think would be the best President, let’s assume that we could beat Obama with a Hamster (which is rather probable)? Who do you trust to lead this country?

          That’s why I support Gingrich, because I think he’s the most qualified man for the job.

          • Tbone

            That’s Newt. Get over it.

          • Scope

            yesterday that he hit Romney hard, and Romney hit him hard. He then said that obviously Romney had a lot more to hit him with. Isn’t that a telling statement coming across Gingrich’s lips? It sounded like he was admitting that he has alot more negatives than Romney.

            Gingrich also said he is almost $4 million dollars in debt. Hume asked him how he was going to pay it off. Gingrich named the usual sources such as fundraising etc, but he also threw in there getting others to help you pay it off. Huckabee also talked about paying off campaign debt, and he said that absolutely there are behind the scenes negotiating that goes on. In other words, when Gingrich met with Romney in Romney’s hotel room on the day of the LA primary, Gingrich has almost completely backed off any and all attacks against Romney. He is now acknowledging that Romney will likely be the nominee. It would appear that Romney has agreed to help Gingrich pay off his debt in exchange for Newt not attacking him. At this point Gingrich is polling in last place, many times even behind Ron Paul. With Newt not attacking Romney, he is no threat to Romney at all, but is just staying in the race because he doesn’t want to face the fact that he has become all but yesterday’s news. Or, it is possible that Romney wants him to remain in the race so he continues to take votes from Santorum, and that is where I would place my bet.

          • krish

            Republican slime if he accepts Romney’s money & stays in the race to screw Santorum…. Also, if I see him attacking Santorum because he is getting help from Romney, he should never ever have the support of conservatives…now , I understand why people who worked with him hated his guts!

            I supported Newt when he was leading & still think he has the most brains & can articulate the best conservative values & got the most experience in conservative polciies. But, if he does what is being reported in many places – understanding with Romney, he is the worst of the lot! This tells a lot about his personal values!!

            I

          • littlehouse18

            if Newt had dropped out earlier (his chances tanked long before this).

          • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

            Santorum had dropped out earlier – or not bought Iowa with that million dollars he paid Pantaloons. We’d actually have someone to vote for who has conservative accomplishments in his record. Something neither Romney or Santorum have.

        • APA Guy

          …and based on what I’m hearing from four separate regions in OH, Obama is in trouble once the general rolls around. FYI, polls at this stage mean SQUAT. Polls has Carter up on Reagan too, and he got trounced.

          As far as VA, NC, and MO, I’ll bet almost any amount of money that Obama loses those states handily. FL is the key for us. If we win it, we can’t lose IMHO.

          • davenj1

            true at this point. Just saying at this point in time. Also said a lot can change between now and November.
            I agree with Missouri, but I’ll take that bet about Obama handily losing VA and NC. He may lose either one, but not both. My bet is he will get VA…maybe even NC. For him to lose all three though is wishful thinking. Look at his approval rating in those states (NC and VA)- they are in “on the cusp” territory.
            Further agree that FL is the key to victory and I sad that in a previous post months ago.

          • exitsfunnel

            I believe that if the election were held today Obama would win VA but not NC and I’d wager $50 that that’s how it turns out in November. I’ve played with the electoral map about a 1000 different ways and there just aren’t that many combinations to victory for the GOP.

            FL is obviously a must win state for Romney but it doesn’t guarantee him anything. Obama can afford to lose FL if he holds onto OH and PA. OH is an interesting state because though it’s really bad demographically for Obama, Romney is also a horrible fit for them. but they’ve got to vote for someone. I wish that Tim Pawlenty were the nominee. I don’t know, hopefully some more states will come into play because right now things don’t look so good.

            -exits

          • acat

            Are you arguing NC will go split-ticket, i.e. GOP for Gov, Dem for POTUS?

            Mew

          • exitsfunnel

            I think that maybe you’re reading too fast :) I’ve agreed with you all along that Obama will lose NC. In fact, I suspect that internally they have already written it off.

            -exits

          • acat

            in part because northern VA has had so many Fed Government types move in – and at least a plurality of those will vote to preserve their jobs….

            Also, the State GOP appears to be in a period of in-fighting – Bolling vs. Cooch – that, while long-term healthy, is short-term problematic.

            Mew

            p.s. the IL-GOP has been in a long-term period of in-fighting .. at some point, one side or the other has to *lose* if we’re going to defeat the Dems … but the example of Canada (close to 15 years of two fighting “conservative” parties) does not give me much hope.

          • exitsfunnel

            I totally agree about Virginia and government employees. I just don’t see them voting against the status quo. Also, Kaine was about the best candidate that the dems could have hoped for so that will help Obama in the margins.

            -exits

          • Scope

            to make any predictions on the 2012 general election. With the promise of an Arab spring coming to the US this summer, along with the race war, fueled by the Trayvon Martin case, I predict there will be some major chaos coming this summer. The Obamacare SC decision will also most likely be known by June. If the individual mandate is thrown out, and the rest of the law fails because of that, the Obamaites will be out in force as well. There is just way to much that can happen between now and November. I believe that Obama has already given us a glimpse into his campaign strategy, and it appears that utter chaos may be his hope for re-election so that he can “calm the masses.” I believe that that may very well backfire on Obama. Voters will want someone to stop the madness, and will realize Obama himself is responsible for the chaos. The lies that the economy is improving will not be evident at anyone’s kitchen table in Nov. also. The un-employed will still be un-employed.

          • APA Guy

            …and Obama doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell here :)

            I have friends working inside the party in VA. They tell me the Obama people are sweating that state like crazy…particularly where gas prices are concerned. VA gas prices are crazy high there…just like IN…and there aren’t enough federal jobs to make up what that state has lost.

          • Scope

            about your post is that NOVA hasn’t recently had any population boom- except for when Neil’s feet hit the streets of Arlington, LOL. Kidding aside, NOVA has long been the most populated area in VA, and it has always been the home of DC politicians, lobbyists, and government workers.

            If I had to guess at this point, I would probably put it the same as you, VA is Obama’s to lose. The conservatives in the state are still very angry at the debacle from the ballot access mess. Even after that, when bills came up in the last legislative session, such as closing the states primaries, continuing to allow the police to ask for ID’s for immigration purposes, the ultrasound bill, lowering the ballot access requirements, and banning the state mandate for the Gardisil vaccines, there were a combination of 5 R state senators that voted with the Democrats on all those bills, and they failed. In fact there was one R senator that wanted to increase the number of signatures required to gain ballot access.

            Remember the primary results where Ron Paul got 40% of the vote. Granted he wasn’t supported by all that 40%, but much of it was from anybody but Romney voters. I don’t know how many of them were D’s that will vote for Obama in the Gen.

            Any state infighting that is going on with the Cooch and Bolling Gov race is coming from the uppity uppers, including the Gov. McDonnell. McDonnell promised to work for Bolling as Gov. if Bolling agreed to let McDonnell jump ahead of his turn for Gov in 09. Bolling is counting on a Romney presidency for a pres. Romney endorsement, and he, along with McDonnell are still hoping for a McDonnell VP pick.

            Bolling obviously knew that McDonnell had a better shot at the Gov. seat than he did, hence letting him go ahead of him in the it’s your turn line. Whatever makes him think he can beat Cooch is beyond me. Cooch is very popular here with a wide variety of voters, and most know that he is in fact more responsible for the good things that have happened, more so than McDonnell, and much more so than Bolling. Cooch was the first to talk about regulating abortion clinics in the state as hospitals, and many of them were forced to close down. Remember Cooch at first wanted to ask for emergency legislation to change the ballot access rules, in order to allow most on the ballot, but apparently found out R state senators were not willing, and he had to back off because he had to defend the state in the Perry et al lawsuit.

            When the VA senate became evenly split in 11, and Bolling knew he would be the tie breaking vote, he announced that he could not be counted on as an R rubber stamp. He and McDonnell have bent over backwards to “work with” the D’s. They have been very timid and have shown no leadership, even though they hold the majorities, and all three top slots. They have buckled in fear of the loud mouth D’s. All but Cooch have been disappointments.

            Remember the Gov election is in 2013. If Romney wins the election, we will have the picture of what Romney is going to do as pres by the time of the Gov. election in November 13. If he is a pleasant surprise, it may help Bolling, but even with that I just don’t see the very boring, go along to get along, take one for the team Bolling winning against the very vocal, willing to fight Cuccinelli.

          • acat

            My reason for stating that NOVA has had a boom is based on real estate price listings … they fell off a cliff for most of the country, but held up firmly in D.C. Metro – including NOVA… I accept your correction.

            I have identified one flaw in Cooch, by the way. There’s only one of him!

            Mew

          • APA Guy

            However, gas being what it is, I understand the temperance :)

          • exitsfunnel

            (nm)

          • acat

            Sorry, your standard of living is still significantly higher, therefore you must be guilty of something….

            (Cheshire grin)

          • earlgrey

            I don’t blame their impression of Mitt and if Obama had gone centrist like Clinton, I would understand, but he hasn’t. This is scary.

          • acat

            I don’t see it.

            Romney’s a lousy candidate, yes, but .. staying home is to reduce ones’ effectiveness .. and slacking off because you don’t like the guy doesn’t seem to be a conservative value….

            Mew

          • aesthete

            and more as maximizing one’s resources (time, money) effectively.

            If the difference in the delta of government growth between Romney and Obama is relatively minor, then a marginal increase in the chance of Romney’s win might not be worth the resources spent on it (opportunity costs loom large, here).

            Of course, this goes back to my theory that politics at the Presidential level are mostly cultural affirmations and in-group projection, rather than any meaningful attempt to choose a competent leader of the US.

          • acat

            The last several GOP primaries seem to bear it out as well.

            Mew

          • texastaxpayer

            I for the life of me cannot figure it out. Are we not supposed to be a pro-life, pro-rights and limited government group or culture if you will?

          • aesthete

            Romney does so poorly because he doesn’t fulfill a whole raft of these cultural expectations. In many areas, he’s not much different from Bush. However, I’d say he matches up when it comes down to imagery: he’s a successful businessman with a great family life who seems to have lived on the straight and narrow, and in accordance to the law, for most of his adult life.

            Unfortunately, cultural affinities don’t often match up with political affinities when it comes to politicians — see, for example, Rick Santorum.

            I expect to see some “rah, rah, TEAM ROMNEY” bandwagoneering shortly after Romney wraps up the nomination.

          • earlgrey

            The frustration with Romney as nominee is almost palpable. I get it, but noting can be done now.

          • acat

            Read my posts if you doubt this .. I’m very frustrated with the idea of Romney as a candidate.

            While nothing can be done about *that*, something can be done about “disengaging conservatives” .. and that is a challenge to get involved in some other race that may generate inverse-coattails.

            For example, in North Carolina, get involved in getting rid of Bev Perdue. In Wisconsin, get involved in retaining Gov. Walker and in taking Sen. Kohl’s vacant seat.

            We don’t need to like Romney .. or even work for him directly .. to change the direction.

            Mew

      • davenj1

        in the electoral vote- almost a perfect storm that would throw the election into the House. In that case, since each state gets a single vote, Romney would win.

  • conservativerock5

    For the Senate

    Rohrer in PA
    Mack in FL
    Neumann in WI

    • conservativerock5

      Stenberg Nebraska and Mourdock in Indiana

      • earlgrey

        Lugar and Loser sound alike for a reason.

        • APA Guy

          Right now, he isn’t running so hot in the general. We can’t afford to lose this seat…and Donnelly is popular in many population pockets…especially in Indy and north of the Indy suburbs.

    • xymbaline

      George LeMieux is polling much higher with Tea Party people than Connie Mack.

      I think he’s the best choice, too.

      • conservativerock5

        Mack is rock solid. Check out the Penny plan.