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Electoral Math: Still a Tough Road Ahead

Naturally, a lot can be happen between now and November when we vote for President. Making early predictions are ripe with pitfalls where an incumbent President holds advantages that a challenger does not possess. There is always the possibility of an October surprise of some kind, we haven’t even had the conventions yet and the inevitable bump in the polls the nominees receive, we have a presumptive nominee without a running mate, etc. In short, there is still a long way to go. With that in mind, ignoring the electoral college maps which anyone can play around with to create any scenario they want on websites like ElectionProjection, 270towin, or Realclearpolitics (to name three), I use a slightly different method.

Besides looking at the overall poll results, equally important are trends. These trends are factored in not only with respect to 2012 polls in each state where they are available, but also electoral trends over 11 Presidential election cycles and the last five Presidential election cycles. A score is derived for each state based on the deviation from the national win margin, much like a Cook PVI is determined. Unlike the Cook figures, these deviations over the 11 cycles indicate stability in voting patterns and help to discern recent trends which is why the the last 5 cycles are also examined to determine the difference between the 11 year average and the 5 year average. This lends itself to determining a trend score which serves more as a constant in the final equation. The 2012 poll trend analysis creates another “constant” that fluctuates from month to month, but is an indicator of trends specific to each state and, more broadly, momentum and/or the effect of the campaign message from either side. Using this analysis, for example, we can see that Oregon, although moving left, is not moving as dramatically left as a California. Conversely, it also indicates a drift rightward in Minnesota although the state is still too comfortably to the left to put in Romney’s column. However, the current polling data and trend data can overcome that gap. And equally important, certain polls, based on past performance, are weighted more highly than others. SurveyUSA holds greater weight than a poll conducted by PPP or Rasmussen. I have also found that local polls- those conducted by entities within the state surveyed- are also slightly more accurate than national polling data. In this case, a poll in Virginia by a newspaper in Norfolk would hold equal or greater weight than even SurveyUSA or Mason-Dixon.

Obviously, Romney needs to win several states that Obama carried in 2008 in order to prevail. First, lets just forget Indiana which will be in the Romney column. This system also gives Romney razor thin victories in Virginia and Florida and a healthy victory in North Carolina. In fact, Romney should sweep the south.

Yet, that is still not enough to give Romney the Presidency and he would lose 290-248 in electoral votes. Romney needs to steal 22 electoral votes somewhere. The only single states that meet that criteria are New York (an unrealistic target) and Florida, who I already gave to Romney. That then means he really has to win two more states that Obama took in 2008. They would be: New Hampshire(4), Ohio (18), Iowa (6), Pennsylvania (20), Colorado (9) and Nevada (6). The only scenario where Romney can prevail is winning either Pennsylvania or Ohio, plus any of the other states listed.

Before going on, many believe that Michigan, Wisconsin and even Minnesota are in play and should be added to this list. However, the trend line in Presidential elections in Michigan has been towards the Democratic Party. In Minnesota, they have had the largest trend towards Republicans over the past five cycles, yet the gap is still so large that a Romney victory here is a long shot. And in Wisconsin, the trend line has been less than that in Minnesota yet still safely in the Democratic column. If Romney were to target any one of these three states, his best chance would be in Wisconsin.

So leaving aside the pipe dream of winning a state in the upper midwest, the attention has to turn to either Ohio or Pennsylvania. This analysis shows Ohio as being the more likely target. The trends in Pennsylvania essentially show stagnation with Obama prevailing there. However, in Ohio Romney trailed by an average of 8 points at the end of April to trailing by an average of 4 points at this point in May. If this trend holds in Ohio, then come Election Day, Romney has a real chance of gaining their 18 electoral votes. The best allocation of Romney resources would be in Ohio rather than Pennsylvania.

Yet, he still needs another 4 electoral votes to put him over the top. New Hampshire would do exactly that, but there are two other even more attainable selections. Some have mentioned Iowa, but Romney’s chances there are about the same as they are in New Hampshire: close but no cigar. At the end of the day, Obama should squeak out a 3 point margin in New Hampshire, just as he did in 2008 while in Iowa the margin will be about 4% instead of the 5% he enjoyed in 2008.

The only two realistic states for Romney are either Nevada or Colorado. Of the two, Obama is most vulnerable in Nevada. In 2008, he managed a 3-point victory there compared to a 6-point victory in Colorado. My projections currently put Obama at a 1.08 point margin of victory in Nevada and 1.80 margin in Colorado. Both projected margins are close enough that Romney can exploit his way to victory. However, one has to look where those votes are going to come from in these states. That is, Romney needs to perform better than John McCain in certain categories in these states. With the traditional Republican demographic groups in these states, McCain performed about as well as Bush did with them in 2004. Some have pointed to the growing Hispanic populations in these states as a target demographic for Romney.

Focusing on the Hispanic vote exclusively and ignoring other demographic groups in these states would be a waste of time and money. If we were to just rely on Hispanic voters to tip the scales in these states, Romney would need 73% of the Hispanic vote in Colorado and 81% of the Hispanic vote in Nevada. Any Republican would be hard-pressed to split the Hispanic vote in either state. Because of the smaller population of Nevada, targeting groups to improve upon McCain 2008 performance incrementally would make better sense. If Romney can simply split the white vote, increase the Hispanic vote to Colorado levels in 2008 for the GOP and take in slightly more voters (about 15,000) nearing retirement, it would give him an 8,000 vote cushion and victory. A possible campaign that targets those nearing retirement (age 50-64) in Nevada by stressing the insolvency of Medicare and Social Security with another 4 years of Obama could be a winning strategy. All Romney needs in Nevada is another 15,000 votes from this demographic and an extra 45,000 Hispanics to go along with him and Nevada’s 6 electoral votes would go to Romney giving him the Presidency.

In conclusion, it would appear at this point that Romney’s path to victory includes (1) sweeping the south, (2) winning Ohio or Pennsylvania (most likely Ohio), and (3) winning Nevada. Assuming he achieves (1) and (2) then takes New Hampshire, then (3) is moot and we would know early on that Romney had won.

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  • acat

    It’s got a couple underpinnings that I just don’t entirely trust.

    Hinderaker of Power Line and rdbrewer of Ace of Spades both wonder just how solid the support for the boy wonder really is…

    To reinforce your point, the Kentucky numbers are interesting. Yes, Kentucky will go for Romney, but…. southern Ohio and Kentucky are a common demographic… and western Ohio and eastern Indiana are similar demographics as well.

    The point, though, is that while the GOP seem content to have Romney for their standard-bearer, the Dems are not at all happy about having Obama as theirs…

    If that support is skin-deep, a false trapping put on to blend in with peers – something Glen Reynolds explains better than I can – it can come apart very, very fast.

    I’m not predicting that it will, but .. I don’t see this being near as close as you.

    Mew

    • YnotNOW

      which could swing the election beyond it’s current “close’ status. But at this point, it’s hard to project how or even if it will tip.

      I certainly have difficulty understanding how so many remain loyal to Obama and the Dem agenda, but it remains a fact that “many” are beyond sway.

      And i thought we’d reached a tipping point in the 2000 election, too, and you can see how good my prognistication is. I’ll just focus on putting Colorado into the “R” column. :)

    • davenj1

      I think his gay marriage thing really hurt his chances in North Carolina. This system I use can change results month to month. Two months ago I would have said Romney had no chance in hell of winning. Today, I say it will be tough, but I can detect a change… a real glimmer of hope for Romney. Making it dependent on two states in May is a lot better than basing it on 4-5 states in March.

    • WmCraig

      Obama was a game changer, the result was the 2008 election. His presidency I believe is the same, in that many people are starting to realize that politics matters and that what Washington is doing is not even close to what the founders intended.

      There can be no winner in a tug of war with both sides almost evenly matched. While statistics seem to indicate this could be close, a courageous nominee could do the Republicans what Obama did for Democrats in 2008. A fifty state campaign could yield radical results.

  • markpryor9

    You can do all of the number-crunching and statistical extrapolations you want but that’s just not the way politics and elections work.

    Political and economic conditions are such that this will either be a narrow Obama victory, a la Bush in ’04 where the electorate was sufficiently doubtful about the alternative, or Romney wins it and it’s not close. Romney will not eke out a win.

    Any momentum to the challenger tends to be magnified in the last few days before the actual vote. If voters have made the decision that they don’t want four more years and Romney has offered a coherent, steady and acceptable alternative it would not surprise me to see him take not just FL, OH and VA, but also NH, MI, CO, NV, IA, PA, WI and even MN.

    • johnconradarens

      Which, more or less, is that “undecideds” really aren’t, and they always, always, always break for the challenger.

      In which case, it’s a Romney blowout. And for the reasons which you have stated: The election, it’s issues and momentum, are defined in the last couple of days, and all the statistical analysis is picking through the gnat-crap in the pepper of history– which is a pretty lousy predictor of future results.

      At this point in 1980, Gallup had Carter up by some 10 points. Uh-huh. Sure.

      • acat

        I would like to see what Mr. Morris is thinking, but … no linky, no clicky.

        Mew

        • barleycorn

          http://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/dick-morris/227597-romney-to-win-undecideds

        • tnfriendofcoal101368

          Morris discussing his reasoning on Hannity. His reasons: 1) Obama’s popularity is slipping and this was his main strength. 2) Polling among registered voters shows an edge to Romney 3) Undecideds always break against the incumbent

          “Morris on the election”

    • barleycorn

      May is about 5 months early to try and allocate electoral votes.

      At this time I don’t consider Romney’s options to be particularly limited historically speaking.

      I would say his list of winnable states is larger than GWB’s was on this same date 8 years ago.

    • davenj1

      And yes, this election may be different and in many ways more important than 2008. However, using this system in 2008 (where I did not consider the final part of the analysis regarding demographics), I think I blew two states- Indiana and North Carolina going for Obama, but Obama’s margin of victory in those states was miniscule. I decided to use it for Senate races and House races in the midterms. In the Senate, I think I blew one call and in the House, with limited polling data except in key districts, I had a success rating of 86% overall, but 95% in the key districts.

      Naturally, the more polling data there is, the greater the chance of success. In its absence, the historical data can give indications. For example, there is only one poll out of South Carolina and it favors Obama. Really? Here, obviously the historical data and trends point away from Obama. So, you can get a feel for where things are going. I agree that as it gets closer to the election, a better picture emerges. And Romney may just pull MI, IA, WI and MN in the end. But at this point, it looks unrealistic to expect that. And every year I hear about PA being a battleground for President and every year, a Democrat wins it. Is it possible? Of course, especially since the historical trend has stagnated and given GOP gains there in 2010, it may lurch rightward. But living next door to that state, I just don’t see it realitically happening.

  • Viet71

    In 1960, the wild card was television and Nixon’s 5 o’clock shadow.

    In 1968, the wild card was Chicago.

    In 1980, the wild card was Reagan’s charm and ability to sell himself directly to the people. This election looked to be close but wasn’t.

    In 2000, the wild card was hanging chads.

    This year, if I had to bet now, I’d bet the wild card will be the Supreme Court, striking down the ACA either 6-3 or 7-2, showing the world how reckless Obama and his pals in congress are.

    • Kyle-MI

      I shudder to think about it, but I am very concerned about the stability of the global financial system. The US stock market has taken a huge hit this past month, mainly due to concerns about Greece. I don’t think it will be a matter of if Greece defaults, but a matter of when. And France doesn’t look in too good of shape either with the recent election. I don’t think France will face problems in the next few months, but the election results make clear that they have tossed responsibility out the window.

      • acat

        If they go down, keep a close eye on Portugal, Italy, Ireland, and Spain … especially if Greece repudiates debt, re-launches the drachma, and refuses to make “realistic” payments.

        At that point, what have the rest of the PIIGS got to lose?

        Mew

        • rightlane1111

          I can’t do the href on this site…so it will have to be clicky…linky in browsie :-)

          http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/21/us-usa-treasuries-china-idUSBRE84K11720120521

          This keeps the public in the dark and people have no idea what is going on with China and the USA. There are lots of people out there that do not trust Obama…stuff like the above gets pasted into e-mails and put on blogs and the news gets out anyway.

          As an aside…can you imagine how the rest of the countries feel that do buy our debt through another process. Is Obama really saying “China You Are Special”? Oh well…BHO, Sr. and Frank Marshall Davis…good foundation :-(

          • acat

            than their decision to not pay a broker to buy our debt….

            Mew

        • davenj1

          n/t

  • ctredstater

    throwing out an incumbent in elections which turned on the voting electorate’s dissatisfaction with the economy.

    both elections completely upset the applecart of electoral vote results of the prior presidential election.

    Carter was “leading” Reagan by 9 in May 1980.

    Governor Romnney, not my choice for the nomination, is doing a solid job at making this election a referendum on Obamanomics. If he continues to do that, and makes simpler and more credible his own prescrptions for economic health, he will win decisively.

    In short, I agree with Dick Morris.

  • The_Rebel

    we will all be better prognosticators. If Walker should win by 10 points or more, then this whole diary will have to be revisited. Hope it happens.

    • davenj1

      Effect the presidential election. WI represents battle against special interests and people making choice on a state issue. I hope walker wins by 30 points. Even if he does, I don’t think it really betters romneys chances in WI dramatically.

  • WmCraig

    I get the statistics, but what the statistics don’t show is the potential impact of a full court press in PA.

    Let me give you three words that carry a lot of weight in PA, Coal, Steel, Manufacturing. There is no HOPE n the Obama five year plan that these will do anything but get worse in PA.

    Now, think about day two’s “Hold China to the rules” idea from the Romney camp. Politicians are scratching there head wondering what he is talking about. Well what he can’t say is we are making it too easy to manufacture in China and too hard to manufacture here. He already explained he plans to alleviate some of that difficulty. Now he is promising to make it harder on China to take American manufacturing jobs. People who worked in factories get it. The Romney equivalent of hope and change (meaning what ever the listener thinks it means without actually explaining what is intended). But this time, without coming out and saying it he is offering real hope for good paying jobs. Any union boss with a clear head and a clear conscience should push for Romney because Obama is devastating the union sector outside of government. How long can former railroad and transport workers, manufacturing and steel workers, coal and mine workers, oil gas and refining industry workers, all big union industries, how long can they ignore the Obama war on blue collar jobs?

    If Romney shows the courage to face “town hall: NY, PA, DE and NJ he might not be successful everywhere. But if he doesn’t he won’t be successful anywhere in that territory and with enough guts, rather than money, just the fact that he is out there fighting the fight could carry other states. And some of us believe it is what we need to nudge our neighbors in NJ, DE, PA into the RED.

    As for NY? Think scared to death bankers and brokers who are getting tired of paying protection money to the Democrats and are still afraid to send their kids to school because of that riot inciting big mouth in the White House demonizing everything they do.

  • http://www.tooncesthecat.wordpress.com tooncesthecat

    Romney wins the states McCain won = 180 total ECV.
    Romney wins Indiana (11) North Carolina (15) = 206 total ECV.
    Romney wins Fla (29), Ohio (18) & PA (20) = 273 total ECV.

    Your statistics, the 2010 election results, & polling all say this is doable. No need to carry Virginia, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota, or New Hampshire. All of which are tougher than these 5 states. Romney needs to press hard on the manufacturing and coal issues in Ohio and PA. Needs press on fair trade with China, and adopt Gingrich’s line of attack on EPA.

    • commonsenseobserver

      Obama just widened his lead there again.

      • gekster

        You got a ‘reliable’ link.

        • commonsenseobserver

          http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/oh/ohio_romney_vs_obama-1860.html

          It seems Obama gained momentum in late March.

          Which is why Romney cannot afford to forget the “working families” part of his policies. Among these voters, increasing the personal exemption as some of the Gov’s primary opponents had (I believe) proposed could turn out to be popular.

          • commonsenseobserver

            While the lead is larger than other polls in the earlier part of this month, it’s just half of what President Zero had in the previous poll from the frankly rather unreliable…NBC/Marist.

          • gekster

            Without any data saying who was polled and just what they asked.

            Was it 33% Dem, 33% Repub, 33% Indy.
            Your poll says nothing about that.
            It doesn’t give details as to who and what was asked, and is therefore bull.
            Get real and think about what you are posting.
            We don’t buy crap thrown against the wall no matter who says what.

          • commonsenseobserver

            Ohio: Marist 37/28/34, 2008 39/31/30, 2010 36/37/28

            The poll assumes turnout will be near 2008 levels, which is rubbish. But the size of the lead is still rather worrying, even if the internals are skewed, especially since few polls have showed Romney with a lead. This, of course, fits with his lack of appeal to rural and working-class voters.

            But I am rather optimistic about the Governor’s chances on Election Day if he runs his campaign well and pushes smart policies. I believe in America.

          • gekster

            Who was asked, where do they live that were asked, and how many were Dem, Repub. or Indi.
            Just what are the dynamics of the poll/s you site.
            All of what I ask has an efffect on any poll.
            Just what are your facts and/or stats for what you state.

          • Kenny Martsolf

            The breakdown for the poll he linked is here. You just have to click on the poll at the RCP site and it takes you to the poll data. I wouldn’t worry too much about an NBC/Marist poll showing Obama +6 this early. Actually, I would say that is pretty good news for Romney.

          • gekster

            Then it’s shame on you for being duped. ;)

          • commonsenseobserver

            I don’t see how Kenny is taking it at face value any more than you are, because if he is, he would be panicking about a 6-point lead for Obama, not reassuring us about Romney’s chances. We can subtract a good 3 points from that.

          • gekster

            and instead in sert ‘idiot’ in it’s place.
            Not on the bright end of the stick, are you.

          • The Anti-Gekst

            may insert that bright end of the stick in a place that will remain nameless.

          • zachv

            n/t

          • gekster

            I can die happily now, as all my wishes have been fullfilled.

            Oh, wait, the Lions havn’t won the Suppper Bowl yet.
            Never mind.

          • gekster

            He already sounds like fun.
            (I wonder what his username is on DailyKos)

          • PowerToThePeople

            Stricia has created another account. Poor thing, really needs to kee[ on her meds each and every day.

          • gekster

            The Anti-Gekst. I have achieved star status. I t can’t get better than this.
            Not bad for a dumb, slow witted, retarded, (I could go on) poster.
            Thanks, as now I have gained ‘star’ status.

          • commonsenseobserver

            Enjoy your fame, Gek, and leave the troll to the mods.

          • gekster

            I was dealing with a child when replying to you.
            Like I said, insert ‘idiot’ where you put common.
            How could I be any more clear.

          • gekster

            Being a one hit wonder?

          • commonsenseobserver

            37% were Democrats, 28% were Republicans, 34% were Independents, and apparently Romney’s not leading with indies.

            http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/A_Politics/_Today_Stories_Teases/NBC%20News-Marist_Poll_Ohio.pdf

            Okay, I admit this poll is mostly garbage (the sample in Florida was worse), but based on all the other polls, Obama still has a modest underlying lead of 3 points or so, which Romney must overcome. It’s just that it still seems quite wide in this current environment. The links can be found on the RCP page, if you want to look at the internals.

            But I still stand by my opinion that Romney will be able to win Ohio and the rest, even though the fact that Obama’s even leading there makes me concerned about Romney’s campaign, but even more about the…mindset of Ohioans.

          • gekster

            Then why the try at sensationalism. You’re try to make a garbage poll as something to be concerned about, when it isn’t.

          • commonsenseobserver

            The fact that other polls on the same RCP page show an underlying lead for Obama of 3 points or so is what concerns me. :P

            Take this: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_OH_050812.pdf

            Which is, of course, somewhat balanced by this:
            http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-and-centers/polling-institute/ohio/release-detail?ReleaseID=1746

            And from these, as well as the other polls, Obama has a rather consistent, though modest, lead. And only two polls have showed Romney winning in Ohio.

          • gekster

            you take a poll of a few hundred people to tell us what thousands of people think.
            There ain’t no explanation possible, so don’t try.

      • garfieldjl

        It would help if you provide a link, I seriously don’t think Ohio is going to go to Obama this time around.

      • davenj1

        First, NBC polls tend to be more reliable when they team with the Wall Street Journal. Marist is mid-level reliable.
        Second, you cannot just look to one poll or even the most recent. In Ohio, at the end of April if you average Obama’s net lead in polls, he led by 4 points. If you take just the NBC/Marist poll and its 6-point lead for Obama, you would automatically think that Obama has opened a bigger lead in Ohio. But, if you look at the other polls between April and today in Ohio, Obama leads by an average 4.75 points. When you adjust these figures for accuracy of polling agencies by weighting them, you shave about 2 points off that Obama lead leaving him with a 2.6 lead in Ohio- within the margin of error of ANY poll thus leaving Ohio a clear-cut battleground state.
        Third, you cannot say that with regards to Pennsylvania where, after adjusting for polling accuracy, Obama’s lead still falls outside the margin of error.
        Fourth, obviously the more respondents that reflect the state population as a whole, the greater the accuracy of the poll. However, polls with smaller samples can be accurate if done correctly. Instead of quibbling over the number of respondents and their breakdown, the poll quality modifier takes care of this and gives you a better broad-based view.

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