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The Arizona Decision and What It Means

Today, the United States Supreme Court, in a 5-3 decision (with Justice Kagan recusing herself), mainly gutted Arizona’s SB 1070, the state’s immigration law. Make no mistake, although prevailing on the most publicized aspect of the case, Arizona lost. What is somewhat surprising is the legal rationale used and if you are a conservative proponent of state laws that address the problem of illegal aliens within their borders, this has to be disheartening news.

First, the Court invalidated that section of the law which provided for criminal sanctions for failure to carry documents attesting to the legality of their status in the United States. Secondly, it invalidated that section which penalized aliens who engaged in unauthorized employment within the state. Third, they struck down the potentially warrantless arrest and detention of suspected undocumented aliens. What they did allow is for police to, once arrested, determine the immigration status of individuals. However, at this point the question becomes, “What then?”

Arizona police officials can report these individuals to federal authorities, but federal authorities are free to do absolutely nothing. Conversely, state officials were warned that even this section, although upheld here, could be revisited in the future if the state should indefinitely detain these people. That is, although upheld in furtherance of a federal law, the federal government had final say on the disposition of that person. They could simply say, “Thank you. Now let them go.” Or they could say, “Thank you. We’ve been looking for that guy- he’s in a drug cartel.”

With similar laws on hold in other states, some more strict than this one, it would appear that their chances, given this decision, are doomed. In fact, many viewed the Arizona statute perhaps the most lenient one under challenge. If the states cannot prevail under that set of circumstances, it is likely that Circuit Courts across the country will strike similar or stronger laws in other states.

The decision was written by Justice Kennedy and joined by John Roberts, Ginsburg, Sotomayor and Breyer. Scalia, Thomas and Alito of course agreed with Section 2(b) being upheld, but not with the other aspects being struck down. His argument and that of another concurring/dissenting opinion by Thomas argued the issue from a federalism standpoint. They correctly noted that states are free to make a state crime that which is also a federal crime under their general state policing powers. That line of reasoning would certainly lend some support to Arizona’s requirement that immigrants carry their documents on their person. That, after all, has been federal law since the 1950s. Where the minority gets in a little trouble is the section that penalizes aliens who engage in unauthorized employment in Arizona. While it is true that just last term, this very Court determined that Arizona could revoke the business licenses of businesses that hired undocumented aliens, the thrust of enforcement at the federal level has been against employers, not “employees.” And they would be correct. During the debate over IRCA under Reagan, this issue was brought up and the Congress rejected criminal sanctions (fines) against employees and directed them at employers. Here, it is understandable that they would not grant to states a tool they deny to the federal government.

The decision, as written by Kennedy, simply slammed the door shut on these federalism-guided theories. What it did was frame the issue in terms of national foreign relations. By doing so, they made the issue exceptionally difficult for states to defend immigration laws in the future. Kennedy stated that foreign countries need to be assured of the status of their nationals within our borders and to do so, they need to speak to one voice- the federal government- not 50 individual entities. By framing it in an international relations rationale, they ignored- indeed, rejected- the federalism argument. Obviously, no one would argue that the federal government is uniquely situated and tasked in the Constitution’s Enumerated Powers Clause with conducting foreign relations.

For the “restrictionists” out there- those who believe in strong federal immigration laws or, in their absence states stepping in where the federal government abdicates their duty (a/k/a Obama)- this was a serious blow to efforts in a certain sense. It was a blow in that efforts at the state level now appear to be precluded, especially in light of the “national foreign relations” rationale. Simply, it very hard for states to overcome that rationale and the Supreme Court has placed immigration in the center of the foreign relations realm. However, although the state battlefield may be shut off, there is still immigration reform at the federal level.

In a way, the Court was telling the states that this is a policy decision best left for the federal government. Of course, the reality is that the federal government has done precious little to reform immigration policy which is the reason Arizona acted in the absence of leadership or meaningful enforcement from Washington. It is interesting to note that many of the deportations Obama now takes credit for were initiated during the Bush Administration. It is also interesting to note that the number of illegal immigrants in the US has not dropped because of anything the Obama Administration has done beyond prolonging this recession. But, the negative economic times will not last forever (unless Obama is reelected in November) and jobs will return and the economy will expand and illegal immigrants will again begin streaming across the border. That is an economic fact, not a foreign relations dilemma. Unless real, comprehensive immigration reform is not enacted at the national level, we will repeat these arguments in the future. The status quo will not do. Unilateral Presidential directives will not solve the problem or suffice as a solution. Unfortunately, today the Supreme Court told the states: “Thanks for your help where WE think it is necessary, but stay out of this issue- it is not for you to reform.”

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  • Viet71

    Under the longstanding pre-emption doctrine, if the congress has legislated comprehensively in a certain area within its authority, the states are prohibited from legislating in that area.

    Doesn’t matter, except politically, that the Executive Branch has failed to carry out the law passed by congress.

    Important here not to confuse constitutional law with politics.

    • barleycorn

      I found the dissents to be unpersuasive and disappointing. I pretty much have to agree with the rationale of the majority.

      • http://www.plumbbobblog.com Plumb_Bob

        … the observation by both Scalia and Thomas that the Arizona laws did not interfere in any with the federal laws, and thus were not pre-empted?

        What’s your reply to Scalia’s point that deciding who may enter the state is at the very heart of state sovereignty, and that refusing them the power to decide it is essentially to demolish any meaningful status to statehood?

        • barleycorn

          If the law was always so simple we wouldn’t need panels of judges where the majority rules. Difficult cases often touch on multiple issues that put a judge or court in the position of finding the best legal disposition out of two or more arguable and reasonable solutions.

          Some elements of our law is clear and obvious and there is little argument even between radically opposed ideologies. But when multiple sections of the law all touch on a case it can, and often does, create a tangle of Catch 22′s that the court has to sort prioritize.

          In those cases reasonable people can disagree.

          Clarification: I used the word “disappointing” above, because I WANTED the court to rule the Arizona law valid AND provide sound constitutional reasons for doing so.

          Given the thicket that they had to maneuver through I understand the majority’s decision.

        • tnfriendofcoal101368

          The Court ruled that sections 3,5, and 6 were pre-empted by Federal law. Dissents don’t mean squat in the end, for example…

          “I find nothing in the language or history of the Constitution to support the Court’s judgment. The Court simply fashions and announces a new constitutional right for pregnant women and, with scarcely any reason or authority for its action, invests that right with sufficient substance to override most existing state abortion statutes. The upshot is that the people and the legislatures of the 50 States are constitutionally disentitled to weigh the relative importance of the continued existence and development of the fetus, on the one hand, against a spectrum of possible impacts on the woman, on the other hand. As an exercise of raw judicial power, the Court perhaps has authority to do what it does today; but, in my view, its judgment is an improvident and extravagant exercise of the power of judicial review that the Constitution extends to this Court”

          This is Justice Byron White’s dissent to Roe v Wade. Scalia and Alito were in the minority; at the end of the day, the majority opinion is the rule of law and in this case Arizona overstepped according to the court.

          • Viet71

            Most dissents are merely grumbles, from a legal standpoint.

    • michaelbowler

      of the law. It is the job of the executive branch to enforce the laws of the US, by refusing to enforce the laws, they are themselves breaking those laws.
      It may well be tradition to have prosecutorial discretion, even an accepted practice, but it’s still a willful act. At this point, the current administration has gone beyond discretion with outright and overt refusal to enforce laws they don’t like, effectively nullifying them.
      Clearly, the only option is to vote ‘em out, this just makes that case stronger. The majority of Americans want this problem dealt with, not swept up under the rug for later use as a political football, exactly the opposite of what politicians in both parties want.

    • http://www.plumbbobblog.com Plumb_Bob

      Pre-emption makes it improper for a state to interfere with the enforcement of federal legislation. None of Arizona’s measures that were struck down interfered in any way with the enforcement of federal legislation. Justice Scalia makes this point accurately in his dissent, and Justice Thomas makes the same point more simply.

      The majority simply demolished limited federalism.

      In davenj1′s article, he wrote:

      Here, it is understandable that they would not grant to states a tool they deny to the federal government.

      Sorry, but the failure of Congress to pass a type of legislation is not the same as actively forbidding states to pass it. Silence means silence. There are any number of reasons why a measure might not make it out of committee in Congress, and few of them involve active opposition to states engaging in certain measures. Scalia makes this point forcefully in his dissent.

      • davenj1

        Conservatives are very keen on the enumerated powers of Congress when it comes to legislation. For example, no one denies that Congress has the right to regulate interstate commerce. That is an enumerated power. It is also at the center of the health care debate and conservatives correctly argue that forcing someone into commerce in order to regulate them oversteps that right of Congress.
        Immigration and naturalization laws are an enumerated power of Congress- the federal government. In fact, the Constitution uses the word “uniform.” During the Reagan Administration, to again reiterate, Congress considered and debated fines against employees and decided against it. Instead, they established civil penalties against employers. That is the uniformity in the law- fine employers, deport workers if need be.
        Uniform immigration and naturalization laws are an enumerated power of Congress, of the Federal government. Individual states cannot rewrite those laws or establish penalties where the Congress has specifically decided against those penalties when they considered the issue.
        Just this term, a state meat inspection law was struck down in California because the more lenient federal standard preempted the state law. Because meat inspection and undocumented immigrants are seemingly a world apart does not make the principle any less important in the constitutional sense. Sometimes the principle works in favor of conservatives (the California meat inspection law was portrayed as nanny-state regulation) and sometimes against conservatives (immigration).

    • otis1

      OBAMA/HOLDER/AYERS/SOROS/DEMS can grant not only BORDER RIGHTS/BOMBING RIIGHTS to PALESTINE over ISRAEL,but at the sametime have the RIGHT to void US SOVEREIGNTY in ARIZONA?

      The “states” own DC,not the other way around,as per the warnings from our FOUNDERS,that actually feared the monster they created?

      DC wanted to become A STATE years ago,now they and their DEMS including ABCBSNBC think they are THE STATE/CENTRAL GOV..

      • Bill S

        Don’t go overboard on the ALL CAPS thing. It makes you look a bit….unhinged.

        • otis1

          Thanks Bill,but the only CAPITAL(S) I am worried about are in DC,like you PROBABLY?

          • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

            That why his name is in red. All of the moderators are conservative in the primary, GOP in the general which is the rule for redstate. His was a friendly suggestion you might want to heed rather than question his principles.

          • otis1

            Many have told me that CAPITALS make people sound angry,loud, and “UNHINGED”. But,they are usually LEFTIST anti-AMERICANS trying to silence those of u.s. who should be “UNHINGED” by now.

            I don’t know this BILL S guy yet,he may actually be a good guy/PRO-AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE?

          • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

            He’s a moderator. It’s his job to exercise our first amendment and property rights to control what comments we publish.

            This isn’t the Soviet Union. The owners have property rights over this site.

            So listen to him or consider moving along to another site.

          • Bill S

            When I’m nice and polite, the responses from idiots like Otis are not polite in kind.. I guess i should just stick with being a jerk.

          • otis1

            SINCE YOUR ARE A MODERATOR HERE,YOU SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO MY E-MAIL,SO LET’S DEBATE PAL, IN PRIVATE ,TO MAKE YOU LOOK NOT SO “STUPID”.

          • http://libertynews.com/ mbecker908

            boom

          • PowerToThePeople

            I am trying to remind you to take those powerful mind drugs. We got to bet you back to as normal as possible.

          • http://libertynews.com/ mbecker908

            certainly unhinged, dumber than small rock and absolutely stupid.

            You can “assume” all you want. We now know all we need to know about you.

            Bye.

          • otis1

            .

          • acat

            the guy is just .. strange.

            Mew

          • gekster

            Your not even worth the vid.

          • otis1

            Chill out,and reread,but I admire you paranoia these days!

          • otis1

            you can list your apologies below,(not required,i get it).

          • acat

            Not without giving up anonymity … and even then, identity theft happens….

            Give you a hint – pissing in a site moderators’ corn flakes isn’t a good start.

            Mew

          • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

            or the real conservative? I get them mixed up.

          • acat

            That mantle’s taken.

            Mew

          • otis1

            If you told many people at FOX NEWS,EIB,ETC., that you thought OTIS is LEFT OF CENTER? I was basically kicked off of FOX NEWS for being too far RIGHT.

          • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

            Hi,

            I’m a site administrator here, let me step in a moment.

            To tell you the honest truth, I get the impression from the start that you are on the right. However, I also get the impression that you’re very angry about some of the political developments of recent days and years, and it’s coming out in your writing.

            So might I suggest that you try taking a step back, and reconsidering how you write to us? Instead of writing very aggressive comments with so many CAPITAL LETTERS, maybe try writing more like you would a friend?

            Many of us here at RS are friends. It’s a site that’s approaching 10 years old, and many of us have gotten to know each other by now.

            There’s a social element here. It’s not purely politics. Please understand that.

            thanks,

          • otis1

            You get the “IMPRESSION” that I am VERY angry about some of the political developments of recent days and years,and should take a step back and talk to you kinder? Your kiding right,is this is my hazing???

            You currently have a POTUS whose good friend WILLIAM AYERS bombed OUR PENTAGON ETC. decades before BIN LADEN did,and you are worried about my polite debate, and want to control how many CAPITAL LETTERS i use at my freedom/discretion.

            I like a good joke more than anyone Neil,and YOU GOT ME PAL!!!!

          • PowerToThePeople

            and if you were the conservative you claim to be you would have long ago respected the property rights of this site and complied with the mods. See Property rights are a big conservative principle and if you were a conservative, you would know you have no rights or freedoms on another persons property. You are simply a guest and now a very unwelcome nuisance.

          • otis1

            Because you seem to have a very small ELITE VIEW of Conservative FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

          • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

            It’s Harry Reid.

          • PowerToThePeople

            respond to me instead of slinking around. But I am surprised you had the time between your efforts to kill the old and learning how to read.

          • otis1

            I feel like I am in the TWILIGHT ZONE here,and if I say anything too Conservative,I may be wished into the cornfield. I am a Conservative,not an animal/dem!!!

          • gekster

            Like I said, time will tell.

            And also like I said, you wouldn’t be the first lib to claim to be a conservative here.
            In fact, the louder they yell it, the more lib they are
            They are a dime a dozen in these parts.

          • otis1

            Let the Libs come,shoot them down like ducks,and be proud?

          • gekster

            And if your not a lib, why bring it up.
            And about looking stupid.
            I think you’re doing quite well without any help from us.

          • otis1

            And don’t back down.

          • gekster

            You havn’t brought up nothing to debate.
            With the exception of trying real hard to convince everyone (maybe yourself) that you are a conservative.
            And asides from you saying it, and making a few half canned claims,
            you havn’t posted anything to show it.

          • otis1

            You know you are a CLOSET LIB here. Debate me.

          • Bill S

            I’ve about exhausted my patience with you.

          • gekster

            Which is better in Grandpas Stop Light Chili.

            Powdered garlic or garlic cloves.
            I prefer garlic cloves, fresh.
            Make your case for garlic powder.

          • civil truth

            .

          • PowerToThePeople

            you are saying you do not recognize private property rights nor the rights of this private property? So you think you have the right to do as you please on another persons property.

            Need to know since you are so vocal about your supposed conservative traits. We know you are an asshat already, and since you deny the owner of this site his rights to manage his own property, now we know you are not a conservative asshat.

            Moron!

          • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

            nt

          • PowerToThePeople

            so site management who are appointed by the owner to run this site having requested multiple times for the idiot Otis to stop with the nonsense cap locks and his stating he has 1st amendment rights to do so is the good argument. God, you are stupid.

          • otis1

            To me,I think you may be a LIBERAL/rino,who wants to keep CONSERVATIVE TALK civil/polite,while you DEMS ruin u.s..

            Read back to when you first started attacking me,and put in quotes one statement I made that nearly makes me a lib? I dare you.

          • gekster

            When did I offend anyone on this site,

            from an above comment:
            SINCE YOUR ARE A MODERATOR HERE,YOU SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO MY E-MAIL,SO LET

          • otis1

            Geker,have the guts to challenge the LIBS,not me?

          • gekster

            You can’t just say anything you want here.
            Bill has blammed many who have gone astay in that manner.
            And I’m not challengeing you to anything.
            Just pointing out the obvious.

            And the louder you yell ‘I’m a pro-American conservative’ the less you are believed.

            I’m in the pool for three, maybe four weeks before you crack and we see you for the moby you are.
            We’ve actually had one go for a whole year. ;)

          • http://libertynews.com/ mbecker908

            with posting on Redstate.

            You have no “right” to come in here and post anything. This is private property and we all post at the benevolence of the owners.

            You are an offensive and ignorant fool.

          • tnfriendofcoal101368

            I had told them the companies policy about social media…employee told me: ‘You can’t tell me what to do while I’m not here…I have rights. I told them : “First Amendment rights mean the Government can’t lock you up based on what you say…the company is not going to ask the government to lock you up, they are just going to cease sending you a paycheck and that is well within the company’s discretion.”

            Otis similar …first amendment means RedState can’t have the government arrest you,but they can tell you not to use their bandwidth to broadcast your message.

            I would ask you to consider not using all caps…in internet etiquette that means you are yelling at us. I know you are upset with the goings on in our great nation but I like to consider RedState posters as friends and allies; I just can’t sit next to them because we are all over the country but if you had us as guest in your home; you wouldn’t yell at us and I wouldn’t yell at you.

          • PowerToThePeople

            but you are mistaking his gentle nature with being unable to be tough. Bill will and would be the first to tell you that you have no 1st amendment rights here and will be just as quick as the other mods to ban you. So far they are all hoping you prove you conservatism and honor their request on their property. That and remember the manners your mother taught you. But going on your past maniac behavior, you will not show any respect or decency and will continue to mistake nice for weakness and they will ban you in order to keep the site at a certain standard which so far you have failed to meet.

          • http://libertynews.com/ mbecker908

            You’ve been told by two moderators to chill with the caps. That is a very simple matter of posting etiquette and you steadfastly refuse to follow that simple guideline. Staying on-topic and making comments related to the original poster’s topic is another simple posting guideline you’ve chosen to ignore.

            You’ve yet to make a single rational point in your diatribe.

            Up to now you have no posting history that indicates you’re a liberal. Or, for that matter a conservative. And blathering on about how conservative you are doesn’t fill the bill. Right now, the toss up is really between lunatic, a complete idiot or a jerk.

            Your first post in this thread was off-topic and was a rambling screed about Palestine, Israel and Washington DC wanting to be a state. There is nothing in any comment you’ve made that addresses the topic davenj1 wrote about.

            So far you’ve contributed nothing to the discussion but off-topic rants and rude comments to people who are trying to help you communicate effectively if you ever do have something to say.

          • PowerToThePeople

            by site staff to cease with the constant use of caps locks and so far you have refused and even gone as far to state you have freedom of speech rights which you do not have on private property. This is not conservative behavior or even decent behavior. All your BS rantings are not the issue, it is your disrespect for the site, its management, and its owner and your mistaken assumption you have free speech on private property.

            They will eventually grow tired of your disrespect and blatant stupidity and will ban you, in the meantime (and to keep your place here) how about instead of running your mouth like an unhinged maniac, you prove your conservatism and decency (you know the manners your mom worked hard to instill in you) and respect their request on their property and not force them to kick you off their property. Maybe if you acted like you aged past 12 and had some maturity, you would add substance to the site where people could learn from you rather than simply being the site clown.

          • PowerToThePeople

            in your own head where you are also many other cool things.

            The only things we know about you is that you are one disrespectful asshat who will not last here long and who has already lost all credibility.

            Go take your meds, put some time foil up on the windows, and then get lost.

          • gekster

            you’re doing it all wrong.

          • otis1

            My oldest son served two tours in the MIDDLE EAST with our MARINES to fight for the OIL the DEMS won’t drill for here in AMERICA now . And while he was OVER THERE risking his life for u.s.,the DEMS /their MSM were doing all they could to throw the war and inspire the insurgents into IRAQ against him and his brothers from IRAN/SYRIA,including then SENATOR OBAMA from still wartorn COOK COUNTY ILLINOIS, Sen. Barack O’Stalin who claimed we were killing innocent women and children in the MIDDLE EAST cowardly from the air.

            I don’t blame you people here on RS for being paranoid about newbies like me,because I have had my own Conservative Site up until recently, that I could no longer defend from cyber attacks,and was a member of a handful years ago that hosted the old
            BRIAN AND THE JUDGE/KILMEADE AND FRIENDS website,before FACEBOOK bought out what Brain Kilmeade called the biggest community site on FOX NEWS,over 7K members.

            I hope you people foolishly continue to doubt my CONSERVATISM/PRO-AMERICANISM.

          • gekster

            I hold judgement, but you wouldn’t be the first one YELLING conservatism who wasn’t, if that may be the case.

          • otis1

            You have no idea how funny this is to me! Call Brian Kilmeade’s radio show, and tell him Otis leans left.I am not even allowed on his show anymore,because I am too FAR RIGHT.

          • otis1

            Take a deep breath people and get your minds right,we only have a few short months to ruin SOCIALISM on behalf of our kids and theirs.

          • PowerToThePeople

            when inhaling paint there bub. Something is seriously wrong with you and I am not referring to your political beliefs.

            Take your pills, really, take your pills.

          • http://libertynews.com/ mbecker908

            You’re a raving loon. In the world of the out-of-touch imbeciles you are KING.

  • exitsfunnel

    I am not a lawyer so I don’t pretend to understand the nuances of preemption but generally speaking I have mixed feelings about this outcome. On one hand my instinct is always to favor outcomes which empower the states relative to the federal government, but on the other I really was opposed to almost all of this bill. (I understand that the latter puts me at odds with the bulk of the conservative base, but it is what it is).

    I should add that I speak Spanish (non natively and I’m not Hispanic) and live in Arizona where one of my residences, and the one I spend the bulk of my time, is less than 1000 meters from the Mexican border which I cross two or three times a week. So I’m pretty close to this issue. It’ll be curious to see how this outcome plays around here.

    -exits

    • edintexas

      Vigorously enforce that which the courts have upheld – pulling the business license of businesses which employ illegals.

      It is obvious that you do business outside the country, few US citizens describe distances using the metric system, even many of those who were forced to use it while in the military soon revert to the English system. Perhaps your opposition was partly influenced by your business activity? If the ruling had upheld AZ, you might have had the perception that enforcement of the statute would have a negative impact on your business through Mexican ill will toward AZ citizens and businesses.

  • renny

    want to be stopped and identified as illegal. That is likely enough to drive many out of AZ and keep more from entreing AZ.

    The point is to control in some way the unregulated and unenforced invasion of illegals. The aspect upheld in 1070 is still likely to accomplish that goal.

    • edintexas

      Given Dear Leader’s response, it is unlikely that any enforcement activity will survive for long, or that any illegals will believe they are at all threatened.

      As noted in another comment, after the decision was announced the Administration announced that they were suspending the cooperative agreement with AZ counties for enforcement of the Federal statutes,

      They also announced they would only take action if the person being reported was a felon, any other illegals would result in the locals being told to let him/them go.

      And finally there was an announcement that a Hotline was set up for individuals to call if they believe they have had their rights impeded by being stopped under the remaining section of the law. I’m sure the Department of Justice Civil Rights Division has lots of resources available to sue AZ for civil rights violations, real or imagined.

    • cbartlett

      and go where? Not back to Mexico I’m guessing. So wonderful – we’ll see even more of them in Texas? Just what we need. If immigration enforcement is a federal responsibility – then they need to actually do it. Telling young people under 30 that “we aren’t going to bother deporting you” and – oh, yeah – “we’ll let you work here too” – is NOT going to help any of these states dealing with the huge cost of providing mandatory health care and education for people not paying into the state coffers to offset it.

  • WmCraig

    Seems to me that there is no reason why Al Qaeda needs to blow up buildings in this country. They simply need to send enough people here either over the Mexican or Canadian border or through education visas, move into a few common locals and vote themselves in charge. Doesn’t appear like it would take long for the Democrats to embrace Sharia.

    We need to restore federalist protections. We can’t depend on a strong federal government, because periodically we will elect someone that will abuse that power. What we need is to restore the power of the states, and let the governors control the federal government. The way the founders intended.

    It isn’t a perfect solution, but at least it allows for diversity at the state level while imposing common need restrictions on the federal government. And it eliminates the danger that the president can “fundamentally change the country”

  • bk

    Right after the decision was announced, the feds said they’d start doing even less for AZ than they already were and, despite the limited resources they claim, set up hot lines for AZ people to call to complain about racial profiling. You know Holder has all sorts of civil rights lawsuits ready to file.

    Too bad illegal detainees can’t be housed in tents ready to be picked up by federal authorities just as soon as they show up to claim them for release.

    If the feds spent half as much effort protecting the border as they do trying to make sure AZ cannot, there would be no problems.

  • anjinconsulting

    “First, the Court invalidated that section of the law which provided for criminal sanctions for failure to carry documents attesting to the legality of their status in the United States.” I can understand that one; the federales already have a law to that effect.

    “Secondly, it invalidated that section which penalized aliens who engaged in unauthorized employment within the state.” Again; the federales have a law on the books for that.

    “Third, they struck down the potentially warrantless arrest and detention of suspected undocumented aliens.” Third strike; the federales have a law for that.

    Kennedy has only demonstrated that the Zero administration via ICE and DHS have failed spectaularly to enforce the laws duly passed by congress and subsequently codified. Add to that the truly stupid and lethal fiasco that is Fast & Furious, noting that apparently NO ONE in the Mexican government was notified or engaged and Republicans have a potential wooden stake to drive through the heart of this cabal of amatuers and communists.

    If Obama isnt going to enforce the laws that have been passed (and is apparently working actively to subvert them) what more does one need to make a logical argument to refuse to fund key entities responsible for enforcing those laws, or even entire departments of the federal government?

    Turn border security over to the military, defund and disband the BATF & DHS, and cut back the administrative staff of ICE.

  • dudette

    but this is exactly a sdecision liberals come to—twist logic into a pretzel until you get the desired outcome. This in no way represents the spirit of what the founders envisioned, a federal govt NOT all powerful and things not done by the federal is left to states to decide. I am more than PO’d at Roberts. And I am ready to throw SCOTUS out of the country for all the good they do and they can take all their looney circuit courts with them beginning with the 9th. What good is our country if we citizens cannot exercise our will and enforce our sovereignty? I give up I am so disappointed at what this spells for my country i can’t bear to even think or read anything anymore. I can’t even listen to Levin it is so discouraging. And when Levin pronounces, take notice. That man should have been on the court. BTW if Fauxbama is proven faux do we get to kick Kagan and Sotomayor off the bench?? I am not happy

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    …stretch from “signing statements” to electoral politics.

    In my view, this was a victory for Arizona with regard to the highest-visibility concern, namely, whether any effort to explore “illegality” could be pursued via the state, notwithstanding claims of “racial profiling”; few can argue that this had been the centerpiece of the 4-pronged legal debate.

    Regardless of the claim that this criterion is “invited” to be explored when implemented, it has been confirmed as Constitutional; this erases any potential for a global accusation against leaders such as Gov. Brewer regarding prejudicial motives.

    That BHO was operationally smoked-out reflects the level of vindictiveness that he shrouds under the aegis of “prosecutorial discretion”; as noted by BK, “Right after the decision was announced, the feds said they

  • kingfish2

    I’m just “John Q” citizen. Why not just outlaw locking the doors on your homes, why have borders? Common sense. which is obviously in short supply even in the Supreme Court suggests to me that the Court can be played, through the executive branch, depending on your AG. I am humble enough to confess I only hold a High School Education, but I doubt many of these

  • septembergurl

    It closes the door on the federalist argument that states can make laws to enforce policies that the federal government refuses to enforce. In other words, the solution to this issue is going to be found in the realm of politics, not in constitutionality. In that sense, it’s a disappointment to those who would like a definitive solution outside politics (ie, not involving interest groups, pandering, compromise, etc), but hardly a surprise.

  • wlcjr

    “The president has said that the new program is

  • kingfish2

    The founders wrote the 1st Amendment to the Constitution restricting Government Abuse (bullying) and the Second in the unusual event the bully had his way without due process. Is this what it’s coming to in America? Did the Founders follow up the 1st with the 2nd for our protection from an OVER ENDULGENT Three Branch Government that only desires to regulate us, him us in, and grant us our RIGHTS based on Uncommon Constitutional Sense? The only reason for a Bill of Rights is to determine where our RIGHTS come from and it certainly isn

  • jqcitizen

    The Courts have affirmed the federal government Constitution right and responsibility to manage Immigration. They have not addressed the Congress’s and the Executive branches constitutional responsibility to insure that adequate laws are in place and administered to ensure that citizen and state problems with regard to illegal immigration (invasion) are addressed. This decision quite clearly indicates that both Congress and the Executive branch must be forced by the citizens of each State to not only enforce the laws that are on the books, but also that the existing laws are modified to meet known requirements. We can start by having concern States insist that there House/Senate representatives bring legal action against the Administration for failure to enforce the existing laws on immigration. The Surpreme Court should be the venue to render a ruling, which should find that the Executive branch has flagrantly disregarded and flaunted its Constitutional responsibilities and that both Obama and Holder have violated their sworn Oath of Office to uphold both the Constitution and the duly enacted laws of the United States. Based upon this finding, impeachment proceedings should begin immediately. Further all concerned States should enact mandatory E-verify for all prospective employers hiring to ensure that only properly documented workers are offered employment. This requirement would be applicable to contractors. This is only a start, but it will substantially reduce illegal immigration and will force the federal government to more fully address this matter and to insure the continued sovereignty of or nation.

  • tanstaf1

    Obama has set up a free tip line to report government officials who are acting illegally. We should help them by reporting the slightest infraction and it would not hurt if many people reported the same one. You know, reprot things like Eric Holder not providing the documents to which the the Congressional oversight committee is entitled.

    The hotline phone number is 1-855-353-1010. The email is: SB1070@)usdoj.gov

  • wlcjr

    That if Obamacare is rejected, then all the complaints about “right wing activist court” are obviously BS. So much for Obama’s narrative.

    Perhaps the timing is perhaps on purpose?

    • anjinconsulting

      It is highly likely that the SCOTUS is going to toss Obamacare; at least the individual mandate. And in the absence of any severability clause, perhaps they are going to sh!tcan the entire thing. Maybe Roberts reached some kind of compromise with Kennedy on this one.

      • barleycorn

        I have to admit this occurred to me too. Not in the sense that they made a bargain but as a tactical move on Roberts’ part.

        My impression of Roberts is that he is a chess player who looks at the entire board very carefully before making a move.

  • darl444

    the illegal aliens bring a culture of corruption, and an acceptance of heavy handed governments. Thus, it is beneficial to the leftist Democrats to have those cultureally minded persons amongst us. The majority that come already have family here, be they legal or illegally present, and thus with numbers, there is political influence, and corruption becomes a way of life here in the USA.

    Failing to enforce the immigrations laws is a form of corruption from within the our government, and clearly for political purposes. Thus it is political corruption!

    If we can overcome the political corruption, perhaps we’ll have an administration that will enforce our laws, rather than ignore them.

    Trespassing is against the law, and the illegal aliens are trespassing. Enforce it.

  • nepanyrush

    Enforcing only the laws he likes.

    Make a good bumper sticker. Even the name sounds like it could appear in history books as the dictator of a third-world country.

  • gouchrcouch

    If they do not let us defend our borders, the liberals and the democrats will surely pass ( supreme court,) the obummer care, then they will make me eat my VEGGIES and no more MAC attacks!!!

  • norris

    if they won’t enforce the law ,what use are they.

    • tnfriendofcoal101368

      and replace him with one who will give new instructions to enforce the law. You can do so on November 6th ,2012.

    • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

      .

  • rightlane1111

    I might not be a person with a Masters…but I have a simple question here. What does “protect and defend our borders” mean? Really. The Founders put it in such a way that it was very hard to screw it up. Yet, just minutes after the decision came down…here is Napalotano out saying that if Arizona calls…they will not answer.

    Let’s go one further. Let’s look at this “equal protection under the law” business. OK…we have the protection business down…where it refers to people…but suppose we “twist” that just a little where the logic follows that if it applies to one state it applies to ALL states. Makes logical sense to me. That is how Obama thinks. Besides that..look what he did with blanket amnesty for 16-30 year olds…you can stay.

    I am very frightened about Obamacare now. Why….because this will put Mom and Pops out of business and drive remaining employers OUT OF THIS COUNTRY. Bye…Bye America.

    Kennedy I knew had a liberal slant to him…but Roberts? What happened…did Bush appoint a person other than a strict constructionist? What is it about “protect and defend our borders” that the Supremes do not understand.

    Why…oh why isn’t Congress even talking about this. He has defied our Constitution and has appointed himself King George Obama…we are right back where we started before the American Revolution.

  • annas

    This was not good! I did not know Roberts was liberal. Now I see Bush has appointed a liberal leaning justice who will be around 30 years or so. Also if Obama is re-elected, he will appoint more liberals. The court will make no conservative decisions for lifetime! I also see due to this decision, it s likely Obamacare will be upheld!

    • gekster

      He correctly decidded that it is not up to the states to enforce federal law.
      It is up to the Feds to enforce federal law. How is that liberal.

      • rightlane1111

        My original question was…what is it about “protect and secure our borders” that the Supremes did not understand.

        OK…I hear you now…this was about Arizona taking on the responsibilities of the Federal Government…I know that is what you are thinking. However, decisions like this have a monumental effect on our country.

        Arizona only wanted to “mirror” what the Federal Government was supposed to do…but REFUSED to do concerning Arizona. Further…after the ruling came down…and to prove my point…Napolatano came out and said that if Arizona calls…the Feds are not answering. So, in essence…Obama granted amnesty TO ALL ILLEGALS in that state. But…wait…I am not finished…when he suspended the law of picking up illegals…he suspended it for ALL THE STATES. Oh yes…if it the suspended law applies to Arizona…it is suspended for ALL THE STATES.

        Has anyone grasped that concept yet? We know that Ginsberg, Kagen, Sotormayor and Breyer VOTE ALONG POLITICAL lines. They do not consider the Constitution…I think you would agree with that….wouldn’t you? But when it comes to the Moderate…Kennedy and the Conservatives….their opinions should be based strictly on the Constitution. OK…that is how it is supposed to work…that is what the Constitution says to the Supremes…but who pays the price for that “unbalanced” adherence to the Constitution. Gekster…I will tell you…WE ALL DO.

        But…let’s keep this strictly to Arizona. Their citizens must pick up the bill for social services of Illegals BECAUSE the Federal Government refuses to do its job. Out of Napalotano’s mouth to my ears… If Arizona calls ICE…we’re not answering. So, the Federalist argument did not work because the Federal government will not do it job according to the Constitution that Obama swore to uphold. Short and sweet…Obama thumbed his nose at the Supremes.

        However, when Obama suspended the laws concerning Illegals shortly after the ruling came down…guess who else is in jeopardy of not being able to deport Illegals…ALL THE STATES.

        So, Gekster, all by ourselves we have managed to bankrupt ourselves out of our own actions, but are we stopping there. No….No…we now are the nanny state for Illegals.

        So…how do we save America? Good…we upheld the Federal Government’s REQUIRED JOB…the only problem is…the Federal Government is not going to do its job and have said so.

        Where are the rights of the States, when their budgets are busted and cannot support these people? I will tell you…we all have to “subsidize” the bankrupt states until we all run out of money…and then…well…we’re a third world nation.

        So, when four justices are anti-American…one is a fence sitter and the other four are Conservatives…I expect that a “vision” of consequences should be considered when one branch of our Government REFUSES TO DO ITS JOB. It’s Great to be Right…but when “right” means we lose our country…then I would rather play like the libs and save our Country…or put in a caveat that the Federal Government MUST PERFORM THEIR DUTIES UNDER OUR CONSTITUTION OR BE IMPEACHED.

        • gekster

          but it was still the right decision.
          It is up to the feds to enforce federal law, not the states.
          That is what I take from thier decision.
          It was a slap at the Obama administration, and then dear Janet slapped back at them, along with slapping at Arizona also.

          • rightlane1111

            I know my points were iterated several times over. However…The Federal Government will not do its job.

            With all that brain power up there in the Supreme Court…perhaps they should have added that solution to the problem was for the Federal Government (Executive Branch) to perform its duties per the Constitution of the United State of America….and then spell it out for them…protect and secure the borders.

          • gekster

            They are there to interpret the law.
            It is up to Congress to tell them, so I think your direction should be there.

            jmo

          • acat

            Put down the firearm, it’s a quibble, not a tribble.

            The Supremes may, in fact, find that the Feds aren’t doing their jobs.

            That was not the question in this case.

            I would be very surprised to learn that no A.G.s are preparing lawsuits on the grounds that, by failing to do their job, the administration has cost the State X dollars, and must remit.

            Mew

          • gekster

            Sue the Federal govermant for not doing thier jobs and for the inherent costs of dealing with the illegals they won’t deport.

            I don’t know where the firearm reference came from, I just have a different look at the same picture.

          • acat

            The firearms reference is due to your hobby of blasting at tribbles.

            Mew

          • gekster

            and tribbles have to do with candidates, nothing else.

            Just stateing my opinion here.
            And if we all had the same opinion, that would make for dull debates,
            which I thought I was engaging in.

          • cbartlett

            That was my first thought when this all came down. Once the SC has ruled on something like this, it will be cited from now ’til doomsday in every other court in the country to back up any argument. That’s what they do with SC rulings – it is the “supreme” law of the land. Every state will basically have to follow exactly what Arizona is doing. Governor Perry in Texas is doing all he can to put our own state officials on the border to enforce it but if we detain hundreds or thousands or a million illegal immigrants – but – the feds WON’T do anything with them and the state CAN’T (via the SC ruling) do anything with them, what keeps this from being considered just plain old amnesty? In every state?

          • cbartlett

            The states could use this to their advantage:

            “I would be very surprised to learn that no A.G.s are preparing lawsuits on the grounds that, by failing to do their job, the administration has cost the State X dollars, and must remit.”

            Making headlines all over the country with lawsuits like this might just get more attention from the sheeple than Obama just got with the SC ruling. I imagine the $$$ figures would be staggering. Only problem might be that this kind of thing doesn’t usually happen very quickly…..

        • runner12

          only eight justices heard this case. This is important because had Roberts sided with the minority and upheld all of AZ’s law, the vote would have been tied 4-4. In that case, the lower 9th circuit ruling would stand which threw out the entire AZ law.

          In a way, Roberts saved the AZ law from being completely defeated and somehow rounded up all of the votes to uphold the part that stands.

          Additionally, I think Roberts has saved his influence for the ObamaCare decision. Make no mistake, if the mandate is defeated (as I think it will be ) Roberts will have had no small part in influencing the decision.

          I am cautiously optimistic about tomorrow’s ruling.

          • davenj1

            A 4-4 tie would have invalidated the entire AZ law as the decision of the 9th Circuit would have been affirmed. In a weird way, this is a victory for the conservative wing of the court thanks to John Roberts. Which is ironic since some people here are now under the mistaken impression Roberts is a closet liberal.

      • Ausonius

        You are quite right: that is exactly how I understood his opinion. It is a conservative decision: states should not need to spend their own money and personnel enforcing a Federal law.

        Similar are the assorted “mandates” from the Feds to the states without any or sufficient funds to pay for the Federal mandates.

        See:

        http://www.newswithviews.com/Emord/jonathan174.htm

        An excerpt:

        “We will not be able to secure a return to a limited federal republic unless unfunded mandates are eliminated and expansions of the federal government beyond the enumerated powers of Congress are held unconstitutional. Thus, the promise of the 2010 mid-term elections and the hope for the 2012 elections will not be realized until Congress implements a serious agenda of reform to end federal government encroachments into the beleaguered and overburdened states and localities.”

        • Ausonius

          I clicked the “Reply To This” button under his comment!

          What happened? :)

    • gekster

      Care to respond.

      • rightlane1111

        http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2012/06/exag-john-roberts-might-punt-on-supreme-court-health-127481.html

        Not that I am a Progressive…but look who said this:

        Former Attorney General and former White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales said Wednesday Chief Justice John Roberts may try to avoid the constitutional issues in the fight over President Barack Obama’s health care law and vote to allow the individual mandate in the law to take effect before the courts issue a definitive ruling on it.

        “I spent a great deal of time vetting Justice Roberts in making my recommendation to President [George W.] Bush that he appoint Chief Justice Roberts to the court,” Gonzales said on CNN. “One of the traits I most admired about him, and this is very consistent in his judicial decision making, is to decide decisions on the most narrow grounds possible, to not get to constitutional issues you don’t have to in order to dispose of a dispute….So in that respect, I expect Justice Roberts to follow that approach in deciding this case.”

        So…if Gonzales is right…let me get this straight…just like Arizona…we will implement Obamcare..which, btw will surely bankrupt the government and its people and its companies all for the sake of SITTING ON THE FENCE.

        If I don’t sell my house by 2012…I pay 3.8% to the government from the purchase price. Student loans…that’s a Sallie Mae deal…all wrapped into Obamacare.

        Religious freedoms…gone…Obamacare took that with it too. Exist on the planet…you pay for insurance to “subsidize” everyone.

        This healthcare plan is a COLLECTIVE MINDSET…and if I liked China or Russia…or any other Communist country…I would move there. I’m American…and that use to be the home of the free and the brave.

        • gekster

          Regardless of what Gonzales said, he is no more a mind reader than you or I.
          I’ll wait for the decision before I comment.
          Hard to comment on something that isn’t there yet.

          • rightlane1111

            I just don’t want to see this thing come down as some convoluted mess like what happened in Arizona. Obama set up a hot line for Illegals to call his administration to report “abuse” if asked for their documentation.

            OK, Gekster…peace :-)

          • gekster

            They are there to interpret the law.

            And I think that even if they did know, it still shouldn’t influence thier decision one way ore the other.

            peace also :)

            (and my friends use a small g, ok ;) )

          • rightlane1111

            Do I need to sany thing more about this. This country is going down the tubes. We are going to be taxes…WE ARE IN A RECESSION AND NOBODY IN GOVERNMENT GIVES A DARN ABOUT THE PEOPLE…EXCEPT WHAT MONEY THEY CAN GET OUT OF THEM.

            The law is unconstitutional and that is the end of the story. Perhaps Roberts is in the the Lefties…as it appears so. The proof is in the pudding. Obama won again…WE THE PEOPLE LOST.

        • davenj1

          But Alberto Gonzalez merely confirms it. It always piqued my curiosity as to why Roberts would resurrect the Anti-Injunction Act argument when both parties in all these suits conceded the mandate was not a tax.
          Reading through many decisions by the Roberts court, some opinions authored by Roberts himself, I sometimes say, “slick” and other times say, “Weenie.” A perfect example was Buono v. Salazar. There they limited the ruling to the legality of the land swap with the Interior Dept. and largely avoided the Establishment Clause issue. That is why we have the Mt. Soledad issue likely to make a revisit to this Court where they will have to address the issue head-on.
          It would not be out of character for them to punt the ball on this one using standing or ripeness as an excuse and avoid the Commerce Clause question for another day. But, it would provide Romney with another tool in his arsenal regarding the urgency of getting Obama out of office.
          But as gekster says, let’s wait before we jump on him.

    • barleycorn

      Roberts is not a liberal nor even within hailing distance of being a moderate.

      From my observation it appears Thomas is the most conservative / libertarian of the Court with Roberts, Scalia and Alito being slightly to his left depending on the issue.

      On case after case Roberts has proven to be a clear thinking conservative.

      We are extremely fortunate that George W. Bush made him Chief Justice.

      • Dave_A

        That is historically what they do.

        For example, the initial suits against the Campaign Finance Reform law were thrown out because ‘since no one had yet been harmed, they had no standing to sue’…

        And ‘standing’ was argued at oral…

        However, the general read of the court is that they will NOT go this way, since if they WERE going to rule on standing it would have been very quick – the only reason to hold until the last day of the session, is for a major, ground-breaking ruling…

      • Dave_A

        Is for Congress to pass a law authorizing states to criminalize illegal immigration.

  • GregInFla

    Can Arizona sue the US DOJ to enforce ITS laws?

    And how can employers protect themselves when the same DOJ is upset when employers ask simple questions to protect themselves?

  • checkmate2012

    sounds like a croc to me. Yes I understand it but I don’t buy it. I doubt seriously if I was Calderon and asked the status of some of my citizens, the Feds could give an answer as to their well-being. Same holds true for all legal immigrants that are free to rome but this isn’t about legals. If it’s all about foreign relations, then track those that are here legally but temporarily, which the Feds don’t do either.

    It was a complete cop out on the Court’s part to not let the States mimic Fed law. So I suupose if TX said, we’re not going to call ICE or CBP to pick up an illegal murderer or drug smuggler since that’s the Fed’s job that would be ok? Yes we may need to change our state laws but all states could save a bunch of money if we turned a blind eye towards all that is enumerated to the Feds.

    Let’s all try and see the anarchy that would ensue. The court got this one wrong IMO, especially in light of what the admin did within hours. That response they gave to AZ does not square with the edict they gave on so called “Dreamers” and they handily did it just before the SC ruling, which was probably already written and O knew it.

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