LETS RUN EVERYONE WHO IS A RINO OUT IN 2012 AND UNELECT THE STOOGE IN CHARGE ALONG WITH OBAMA

The minority leader then proposed complete capitulation to Obama and the Speaker put forth a minimal cut – no tax increase short term debt ceiling increase as though forcing Obama to come back again after deficit spending continues into 2012 is a victory.
Even that weak approach will be rejected by the Senate or the President so they can continue to blame Republicans while they continue to call for more “TAX AND DEFICIT SPENDING”.

Republicans must begin to realize broad based house cleaning to replace career congressional office holders will be necessary to get anytrhing meaningful accomplished.
2011 election is fast APPROACHING AND 2012 ISCLOSE.
Organized tea party like action will be absolutely necessary as the traditional party has failed. We need majorities in both House and Senate – and A President committed to reversing deficit spending , reducing debt and fostering economic growtrh to raise federal revenue. To do so it will be necessary to repeal Obama initiatives in legislation & regulation and appointments to courts need to be constitutionalists.

FUTURE? What future do we have at $20 TRILLION in debt? If all your credit cards are maxed out and you have the choice to make your house payment, or ask the bank for 50k more in credit limits what happens? You make the house payment or go live under a bridge. The bank asks you if you are nuts and demands the 50k you already owe them or they will take everything you own.. There is NO future continuing with fast-approaching 2 trillion dollar yearly deficits!

Daniel makes valid points here. Boehner is in a hell of a bind here. Why? he HAD the only viable solution and let it get blocked by the Socialists in the Senate! He had the opportunity to hold the line and demand a vote on CCB in the Senate! We needed that vote to identify the Senators who want to bankrupt America for the 2012 elections.60-66% of informed Americans support CCB. Now it has come down to a pathetic game of Socialist roulette with our impending insolvency staring us in the face. Again, there is NO FUTURE in continuing the drunken tyrannical vote-begging spending for America.Anything else is rooted in ignorance, whether you are a Repub or a Dem- this Inedpendent sees you for what you really are here: Progressives.

Abolish Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, Farm Subsidies, SCHIP.

I guess I’d also through in selling off Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and getting rid of subsidized housing.

That’s about all I can think of off the top of my head, at 5 AM this morning.

I don’t consider myself a Ron Paul type of libertarian, but I think when trying to limit government, we would be well advised to re-read the book, “What It Means To Be A Libertarian,” by Charles Murray.

Questioning the ideology only makes me think that you have chosen the wrong intermediary by trying to get the GOP to be the vehicle for change. I agree that the spending has to end.

No this is a strategy issue and what I am most upset about is what you advocate as being the point by which you have chosen to take a stand. For some reason you think it’s ok to hold hostage one of the greatest assets the country has created – it’s credibility. Why don’t we just go out and send 20 million of our citizens between the ages of 20 and 30 overseas and tell them not to come back? It amounts to the same thing.

If as you say and I agree it’s a budget issue then the showdown ought to be
in a budget debate. But instead the GOP have decided to draw a line in the sand on a matter of paying what we have agreed and authorized, and needlessly put in jeopardy a national treasure. Shame.

I am not seriously worried about the Obamacare immortality provisions, but I raise the issue solely to point out that the fillibuster rests on similarly unstable footing.

Senate rules only survive if the majority acquiesce to them.

Portugal
Italy
Ireland
Greece
Spain

Did Ireland manage a reform I missed? Thought their economy had collapsed once their “economic miracle” (caused largely by having, at the time, one of the more business-friendly tax structures in *western* Europe) dried up?

I do know that it’s far cheaper to hire technical support staff in Gdansk than in Shannon these days… even if the accent is a little harder on American ears.

Mew

I promise, I won’t do it again.

For instance would you say that Greece put their austerity measures in at the appropriate time – or would it have been better off for them and for the whole World had they taken drastic measures before it was too late?

The nice thing about forcing the issue now – is that it can be undone immediately because the ceiling can be raised at anytime. If the drastic solution is forced on us like Greece, – we have no options to experiment.