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  • JadedByPolitics

    Those poor children in DC and around the country who have to stay in TERRIBLE schools and never get the chance to attend the better schools that Congresscritters and The One’s children get to attend is just SHAMEFUL! I say it constantly and everywhere I post Democrats HATE THE POOR and BLACKS! It is WHITE union leaders who are keeping the Dem’s in check and the children destitute.

    The WAR on poverty will NEVER be won because the Democrats WON’T allow those kids to better themselves. It is CLASS WARFARE from the Democrat Party!

    • Brian Hibbert

      That’s why they’re always trying to make more of them.

    • olsmithie

      as a tool to gain power.

      When the black leaders stop delivery a high percentage of the vote, Dems in congress will forget them like a bad dream.

      Many have realized this, most have not.

      You could substitute Latino, poor, or any other group in the example. If you are willing to prostitute your group to aid the liberals they are all over you.

      If not, you get listed in a DHS report.

      Side note: It appears that the libs are falling for the McCain approach:
      Go ahead and screw your supporters, where else are they going to go?
      Perhaps Dems will find if they screw their black constituency often enough, they will sit home on election day, same a lot of Rep/conservatives did Nov 4.
      We shall see.

      Regards

  • Brian Johnson

    But I have to say, outside of their pro-death agenda, what they did to the underprivileged children in DC is one of the most despicable things they could do. From the party that constantly screams “do it for the children!”, it doesn’t take them long to whisper “screw the children” when it conflicts with whoring themselves out to the highest bidders….

    And, once again, the drive-bys happily looking the other way.

  • http://www.braindeadrepublican.com Michael DeWeese

    School vouchers could be part of the party platform if sufficient information could be disseminated to the public regarding the benifits of the system. Send your children here (locked down public school with literacy rate worse than the 97% America had in the early 1800′s) or here (pleasant private school with grads that are aceptable to colleges around the nation). The school voucher system would also help prevent the indoctrination of children into the daddy government can take care of you schooling.

    • mom2oneson

      tell the parents to forget depending on the gov school system that has nothing for them and provide their kids without the government. Our platform should be different than the democrats in how we view people. We should not look at people like they are stupid helpless and that they need the government to teach their children basic skills. With all the self teaching curriculums out there it’s ridiculous that any child has to spend another wasted day in a prison like school where they don’t learn anything and fear for their safety and are sometimes victims of crime. They could be at least comfortable in their dwelling place reading. We have got to change how we view people and it should not be based on their income level.

      The school voucher system will be tied to the government when it becomes available to all and will we lose the freedoms we have with private schools. Have you ever seen anything tied to the government on a big long term scale that wasn’t full of strings and requirements and stuff like that.

      • mom2oneson
    • mom2oneson

      education is one area where the gop can reach the black community. I posted this a few months ago that parents/grandparents are tired of the raw end of the deal they are getting. We should have tutoring for reading in every church building that will give us a room and every single project in the US. Every project has a community type of room that we could tutor in. Some republicans leaders could show up and help like the local rep in that district.

      • Martin Knight

        How many of these parents that you’re asking to homeschool their kids can actually read? Are they not often products of the same failed school system? How many can do math? How many understand basic elementary school science?

        So how the heck do you expect them to teach their kids?

        • mom2oneson

          I don’t believe successful homeschooling requires a teacher. Not being literate would make it more difficult but that is easily solved with a phonics tape or CD and a book..maybe $30 bought privately. Even if a parent refused to learn how to read the kids can learn from a CD and book. Children can learn independently once they learn how to read.

          • Martin Knight

            How about any member of your own (extended) family? Have you suggested they leave their kid with phonics tape and a book?

          • mom2oneson

            With my son and I’ve also purchased a kit for other friends that had children that were being labeled or failing to learn how to read and boom problem is solved. The problem is the schools aren’t using explicit/intensive/systematic phonics instruction to teach reading and they are making people illiterate.

            This is why extra federal money for low income students and things like NCLB are such a scam. It is not dependent on the kids income level.

            I think “leave” sounds neglectful in your question, I think providing with is a better way to phrase it.

          • Martin Knight

            How many of you are single? How many of you cannot read above the third grade level?

            PS: I believe strongly in Phonics instruction, but that’s not the point.

          • mom2oneson

            I don’t get what difference does it make if we are single or about our employment? This varies from family to family.

            Of course it’s ideal if the mother can read but that does not need to stop her from homeschooling if she can’t. With all of the educational resources out there what the child achieves does not depend on the parent’s educational level. If wel lived in a primitive culture yes a teacher would be required but we are here in the US with libraries and so many books.

            The 3 of the four 4 friends I mentioned that I bought kits for, had children in the public schools that were not learning how to read and they already had a label and one was at the point of repeating a grade.

            I think phonics is significant because that is the reason the mother is illiterate in the first place if she is, that she never learned to read with intensive phonics.

            Four more things -
            1. A child with his mother is happy and secure. That is going to let him learn way more than in a bad public school environment where they are worried about other kids and being harmed or even just having to deal with a teacher that has other kids to handle and obviously is not his mother. We need phonics and good books but just a change in that environment is going to help kid’s minds open becuase they are happy and secure with mom.

            2. Don’t confuse raw intelligence with academic education. Mother A might have had her baby at 17 and not finished high school even but that doesn’t mean she is less intelligent than Mother B that went to graduate school, worked as a professional for years and had her first baby at 36. Mother A be able to grasp things very quickly and very “in tune” with her child and not be so worried about what the Jonses child is doing.

            3. I’ve seen more confidence with mothering with younger lower income less formally educated mothers than I do in general with older better educated mothers. I see the ones with less academic education having much better problem solving skills and just being more normal like not making small things into a crisis. Literate or not, that confidence and the ability to deal with the downs in life will go a long way.

            4. When we lived in projects a long time ago I was always amazed at all the human resources there were. People on here would call it generations of welfare queens but look at it from another perspective, there are female family members all close by to help with the child. Even if a single mother worked there is her mother, sister, aunts, there are many female relatives that the child can be with. It’s really amazing from what I’ve seen in not only in projects where there is abject poverty but also in the black community too. They are very very supportive and encouraging for education and there are many women there to help with watching children. Childcare while the mother works wouldn’t even be an issue for many of the single mothers that pull their children out of the schools even if they did work. I know a high percent of kids are being raised by Aunts and grandmas, often due to drug use in the mother, but they can homeschool too. I’ve seen more wanting to know information about homeschooling from grandmas, they are beyond sick of the school system.

          • Uma Richie

            “Feminists” like to oppress women by making them victims. You are turning me into a female chauvinist. Women can lead the way out of poverty for their families.

          • mom2oneson

            You made a great point, that is sooooo how they view people, I never thought about it as victims but I always thought of it as they are viewed as like helpless and stupid, victim would apply too you are right. I mean they don’t even address the real needs instead of act like the kid doesn’t even have a mother and they need the state to be it’s mother. The problem is there isn’t a man to provide and protect it’s not that they need the state to be mother.

          • mom2oneson

            with poverty but there is no need for education to be one of them. I don’t mean to mimize the stress of poverty, we live in a material world, it’s real and hard but a kid’s education in this society with so many books and libraries and self teaching curriculums doesn’t have to depend on the parents income level.
            It’s even more huge and horrible with a disctrict like DC or any school where they are not even getting a basic basic education. It’s really upsetting because it’s not the difference between the kid in school learning to algebra II and the kid at home learning calculus ab. The difference may be not learning any basic skills at all vs learning how to read and write and do basic math at home. With just a 5th grade education a child would know enough that they can take some remedial courses at the community college and then go to votech school or take academic classes. I am sure most would go beyond 5th grade but I am potining out the difference.

            Tomorrow a kid can go to the same school and and finish the year and go back in Sept or August and still lbe illiterate..finish that year and still not be able to read a newspaper.

            Same kid tomorrow can go to grandmas in the morning. He can watch tv and help grandma with some things that need to be done. In a few weeks they can work together with a phonics kit. A few weeks after that mom can help him with math facts in the evening. By September he is ready to start a curriculum. He works though two grade levels this year and his reading just takes off. Mom struggles to pay her basic bills so she can’t afford classes at the art museum or 2 sports a season but her kid can read and add and write and is learning how to work independently. He is confident and closer with his mom and grandma now too. There are social benefits too, he will grow into a young man and be protective of his mom instead of being around boys at school that are bad kids and disrepsectful. This situation can change a million ways, but many have grandmas, aunts, sisters, someone at home to at least provide supervision.

            We just have to view people like humans and not like helpless needing the state. I’m not denying there is a difference in the extra things like sports that kids with a professional father can do vs what kids with a single mother earning $7/hour can do, but it’s ridiculous to let kids sit in an awful maybe violent school learning nothing when they can be at home learning what they need to and just have to skills to learn whatever they want to because they know how to read. It may be harder for the low income but apart from that stress there are things to be learned from finding different ways or fully utilitizing resources around you.

  • mom2oneson

    so here is another alternative, why don’t we teach the parents to use what muscle they have with the schools. Schools get funded when kids show up. They recieve extra federal funds when parents fill out the school lunch vouchers at the start of the year. In a big district like DC that is a big chunk of change. Someone that knows the ins of how the district gets funds (is it based on a # of days, or is it two days a year they take attendance, etc I’m sure it’s combination of different things) can post and a leader can encourage the parents to use it. Mr Duncan that cancelled the vouchers for the new students next year should have gotten a LONG line of those same families withdrawing their kids for this year the morning after they got the letter. If they are going to take funds and not provide the kid with education why don’t teach parents to call them out on it and tell them you aren’t going to use my kid to warm a seat or my signature to get your paycheck wihile you play games with my kid’s education and future livelihood.

    I’ve seen it here, they offer classes at museums and all sorts of places just to get some of the money that they wouldn’t get otherwise from homeschoolers.

    Now I’m totally against vouchers or any state/federal funding of K-12 and I think an easy way to solve this failing school problem is by the parents pulling the kids out today and homeschooling them until they can attend the community college, but if you all want to work with the system when not teach parents how it works and use the muscle that they have.

    • Uma Richie

      Really, I think you’ve missed your calling.

      Nobody is better than you in keeping us honest on the “can’t vs. won’t help oneself” demarcation.

    • James_Reynolds

      my wife and I do this ourselves. We would love to be able to deduct what we pay on our curriculum directly of our tax liability since we do not recieve such benefits from them for our kids education. My kids get more out of one day then a kid in public school get in three days

    • Mike gamecock DeVine

      With all your points (although I would be willing to try vouchers in some forms). I favor the mass homeschooling and also think that eventually the only way to truly change the system may require some MASS civil disobedience given the mandatory attendance laws and taxes collected.

      more details later

      Keep up the good work and don’t be discouraged by the naysayers, the timid, the scoffers and purveyors of conventional wisdom.

      • mom2oneson
  • Dan McLaughlin

    nt

  • smagar

    We did our part. We tried to elect the other guy president.

    African-Americans wanted Obama…and they got their wish.

    And now, they have a choice: The One (and his teacher union allies), or their kids. Obama’s made his choice—he picked the unions.

    That thump-thump-thump you hear is DC school kids going under the bus.

    If African-Americans care enough about DC school children, they’ll do something about this. If they don’t, they won’t.

    Ya know…all those times I was called a racist for being a Republican…that must have damaged my give-a-dang. It’s busted.

    Take your medicine, DC African-American parents. Stinks to be you, doesn’t it?

    • mom2oneson

      Why not encourage them to do something like you said they will do if they care enough instead of saying take your medicine like you said at the end. Everyone makes poor judgement from time to time, doing what is necessary despite our past decisions is just part of being responsible.

    • Brian Hibbert

      if the people harmed by this move voted for the people who perpetrated it. The only way to break the cycle is to continue to push for what is right.

      And it’s not just DC school children that are harmed by this. The DC schools were a test case. The program SHOULD have been spread across the country. But that would be living proof that the government isn’t the best solution for all problems and the Democrats had to kill it.

  • tankertodd

    The Republican Party needs to own this issue. If The Wall Street Journal can demonstrate continued passion around this issue, then so can we. We need to be the party of equal opportunities, not equal outcomes. Quality schools are at the root of that mission. Poor kids need a quality education so they can have equal opportunity to rise to the top. Currently these cases are the exception and not rule. Driving quality schools is so core to our party’s future I simply can’t express it all.