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  • 4life

    Glen Beck obviously has a huge target drawn on his back. Why? Because he has boldly exposed some stuff that a lot of people wish would have not been exposed. And, in the process he has made the other media look bad. I think it is as simple as that. And the funny thing is that it seems to me that it is hard to paint Glenn as mad. He smiles alot, you know, genuine smiles. Sure, he doesn’t hold back the analysis, but he doesn’t come across as ‘mad’ to me. What do you think?

  • 6eorge Jetson

    Excellent, Toby!

    • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens
  • AngryMatt

    Why do we want to associate ourselves with Glenn Beck? The guy isn’t a conservative per se, he’s a raving lunatic conspiracy theorist one lost nut short of Alex Jones and Prison Planet.

    With the exception of the Van Jones bit (which got play elsewhere mind you) what has this guy brought to the table? Nothing. And yet his medium is where O’Keefe brought the ACORN videos? Why?

    All you have to do is watch the guy for three minutes on Fox to recognize that he isn’t a serious human being nor does he help our cause. I mean did you watch the bit on Rockerfeller plaza? Crazy.

    Associating ourselves with him just ties real and logical but grassroots conservatism with the birthers and death panel shouters. I’m not saying pull an Obama and chuck him under the bus or vilify him, or even step back and allow the Left to destroy him because he’s a solid foil and destroying him would chill free speech in general. I’m saying don’t promote him, don’t associate yourselves with him and don’t think that he somehow “stands up” for conservatism. He doesn’t. He’s not Rush, Hannity or even Savage. He’s many, many times crazier than the caricatures of the Left paint of conservative talk radio.

    • Aaron Gardner
      • AngryMatt

        Because everyone who thinks Glenn Beck is crazy and damaging to conservatism is a left winger. I’ve been registered at Redstate for nearly four years (I remember RedState 1.0 for goodness sakes) but I rarely, if ever, post. I just don’t feel the need to nor do I usually have the time given my job is to write and make deadlines.

        But in the case of Beck I do feel the need to say something. I guess you could call me a “National Review” conservative since I think Sarah Palin while a great person, mother and solid governor needed more seasoning before becoming our VP nominee and I supported Romney, not Huckabee in the primaries. I’m a small government conservative who opposed the creation of DHS and Medicare prescription drug plans, while still zealously supporting the War on Terror and laughing at Ron Paul and his followers.

        I think we need people fired up, we need people out there in the street yelling they’re mad as hell and they’re not going to take it anymore. And I take it as a fact that most of those people are going to be fired up by birther and Obama is a fascist talk just as leftist protesters were stirred by “no blood for oil” and “BushHitler” nonsense. But I think we can harness the very real anger against increasing government control and channel it in a way that doesn’t alienate moderates and instead sways them to our side. I’m not talking about “Big Theory” idiocy like letting Kennedy write NCLB or “compassionate conservatism” like Medicare Part D. I’m talking about indignation at both the bailouts and government control of the private sector. Agitation at making profits seem criminal and wrong. Anger at politicians on all sides doing nothing to represent their constituents and serving only themselves.

        There’s plenty to get mad about and fired up about right there while making reasoned and intellectual arguments that make us seem like real leaders, instead of the “party of no” or worse by some moderates. We’ve got Obama and Co. backed into a corner here. Let’s claim the leadership mantle now and ride the populist wave that way instead of relying on every crazy word that comes out of Beck’s mouth to get boots on the ground and votes flipped in Congress.

        • Aaron Gardner

          With friends like you…

        • penguin2

          to also be “crazy lunatics” believing in conspiracies too? After all, there are quite a few intelligent people who follow him and are quite able to discern fact from fiction, and are certainly smart enough to believe evidence presented with their own eyes.

          • AngryMatt

            There are plenty of people who are huge fans of what Rush has to say, but don’t like him as a person… well at least that’s the label I wear. If you were to ask me “are you a fan of The Rush Limbaugh Show” I’d say yes but if you asked me do I have a favorable opinion of Rush I’d answer no. I think Sean Hannity is a wonderful human being, especially with his ardent pro-life and pro-family stances. But I find him to be somewhat of an intellectual lightweight (or at least pandering to that audience) and not really a small government conservative. His love for this country and social conservatism makes him, on balance, good for the movement though. Same for Levin; he says some things that are “out there” and factually incorrect, but he gets enough right and says it with enough passion to be good for conservatism.

            Anyway, it’s a roundabout way of saying that yes, there are plenty of people who like Beck that know when he’s saying something just absurd and tune that part out. But I don’t think he says enough that’s on the money to be good for the conservative movement, nor does he stir people up against the right enemies for the right reasons. He gets way out there about crazy socialist conspiracies and plays on our fears. I don’t find that to be good for conservatism or for the country. In fact, I see it as ripping pages from the worst of the Left’s playbook. Using Alinsky’s Rules when it comes to stuff like what O’Keefe does is not only hilarious but effective. Preying on the fears of Americans that we’re constantly under threat and our best days are behind us is not very conservative imo.

            I’m far more of an optimist when it comes to this country. I love the “Morning in America” line and I brim with hope for both the nation and the conservative movement even in the dusk we face today. But it’s never night for this nation or conservatism. Sometimes the sun dips lower and sometime it shines brightly. Beck makes people think the sun is gone and the terror of the night will destroy us all. I hate that and I think it’s God-awful for us to be associated with it.

          • Achance

            “Nice” restrained Republicans like you got us where we are. You are advocating our behaving exactly as Comrade Obama expects us to behave and if we do, he will have created his workers and peasants’ paradise before the ’10 election. Glen Beck is doing exactly the right thing to Comrade Obama’s apparatchniks and at both the state and National level we need to turn those tactics on Members of Congress that Rahmbo recruited to run like Republicans to take normally Republican districts from us.

          • penguin2

            people who are in the public square able to have a visible voice. He is not way out there with “crazy Socialist conspiracies.” “Preying on the fears of Americans” Americans have been sleeping for several decades, he is only one part of the resources for information getting out there to the people.

            Socialism is exactly what the leftist Dems are bringing to this nation. Dress it up however you want, saying we are fools for believing it, reminds me of saying one thing but doing another. You don’t seem to be only unhappy with Beck, you are throwing a number of the leftist issues into the mix, then saying we are in another universe and imagining things. I tell you what, I am going to continue to imagine things, and carefully gather info and facts, and prepare for what is coming. of course, quite a bit is already here.

            Personally, I think there are far worse things to be associated with than Beck. Try, William Ayers, Rev. Wright, Latin America dictators, betraying our allies in Eastern Europe, weakening our military defense. Domestically, consider the takeover of the banks, automobile industry, and currently working on health care and newspapers. Conspiracy theories–not on our part.

          • Aaron Gardner
          • http://www.redstate.com/tnjim TNJim

            But you forgot a big one in that last paragraph:

            Denying visas to diplomats from a Latin American country who are just trying to uphold their Constitution.

            And Matt, if you actually know Rush personally and still have an unfavorable opinion of him, fine, but if you don’t, and are just basing that opinion on the voice on the radio, buzz off. I’ve never met Rush, so all I know is the guy from the radio. I can take from that that he’s a conservative, a Christian, and a cat lover (now a dog lover. too) but I know plenty of those in person, some I like personally, some I don’t. I won’t know if I like Limbaugh personally until I meet him.

          • bs

            And Glenn Beck works. We oughta be using Alinsky’s playbook. We should be using every weapon in our arsenal to beat the crap out of Obama and the Left.

            Screw nice. Screw decorum. Beck is beating them, and that’s what counts. If you don’t have the guts to play the game, go back to reading books about conservative philosophy and be smug in your correctness. The rest of us will fight to beat the Left.

          • http://beaglescout.wordpress.com LJ “Beaglescout” Miller

            Glenn Beck just happens to press that button better than anyone else on TV right now. He is also extremely entertaining. It seems to me that Matt thinks Republicans should be nice to Democrats. I don’t see any reason why they should, not when Democrats fully intend to destroy the Republican party. Democrats are destroying free markets in the US. They need to be stopped by anyone who can do it. In this case, Glenn Beck is our man.

          • aesthete

            In a sense, I’m on your side: it would be brilliant if we could have Lincoln vs. Douglass all over again, and if I, personally, had to choose between either listening to a speech by Sarah Palin or reading Thomas Sowell’s latest column, I’d pick Sowell in a heartbeat. That said, we have to acknowledge that, in this trait, we aren’t like other people. Most Americans aren’t stupid or evil, but rather, are chronically allergic to politics, partly as a result of the polarization/”talking point”-ization of political discourse and thought, but mostly because people have better things to do with their time than hear talking heads yammer on about some technocratic bill that probably won’t affect them overmuch (the public choice term is “rationally ignorant”).

            It’s for this reason above others, IMO, that people are keeping up with policy: there are bills that have the potential of radically changing their lives (healthcare, stimulus), and the American “Get the h*** off my land” spirit is reawakening from its dormancy. Back to my original point, this means that if we have any chance at educating, we have to do so in a way that a) won’t bore people to death, and b) will bottom-line policies for people in such a way that they’ll know exactly how and why their lives will be impacted by a given bill. This is especially true in radio and television, where the consumer doesn’t have the option of giving the host a different inflection, or of watching at his leisure. Moreover, there is a trade-off between the “entertaining” aspects of a show, and the informative ones, ie., some info is lost. On the whole, viewers are aware of this fact (how can you not be with Glenn?), and think that this trade-off is worth it, or even optimal, for some.

            Put in that context, Beck serves the function of both entertaining and keeping enough facts for people to get an overall picture of what is happening–and the job that he’s doing is being done by no one else, to the extent that it needs to be. Would I like to clone Glenn Beck, remove the “Leave Brittney alone!” vibe that he sometimes has, and replace the original with the clone? Sure, but our choices are in between having an imperfect Glenn who presents info that no one else does, and having no one at all.

        • blooch

          statements like this just reek of elitism:

          “Let

        • JadedByPolitics

          he the king of the STATE RUN HEALTHCARE? really? small government and Romney are two OPPOSING ideologies. OBTW…WE have Obama backed up in a corner because of Beck, ie: the Green Czar and ACORN…while we have him having to answer this insanity along with the NEA he cannot get people to focus on his agenda. While you have “things” to do and cannot somehow :sniff: take the time to speak here Glenn Beck has the time and inclination to SCREAM from the top of his lungs about the communist nature of this President and the angry, disgusting pathetic leftists who infest our Congress.

          You are either a liberal troll who opened up his account 4+ years ago to drop trough when you felt like it or you are what I call a “compassionate” conservative you know that would be a liberal who likes a tax cut.

          OBTW the left was ANGRIER, LOUDER and much more DISGUSTING then anyone on our side of the aisle and guess what? WE are sitting out here watching our country being destroyed by leftists. So you keep your kindness and your gentile nature and WE out here will fight the good fight and take down the Democrats!

    • UpLateAgain

      to watch MSNBC, or CNN, or whatever. They’ll be there for you.

      I like Beck. So do apparently several million others. I also think he’s right on the money about 95% of the time. So apparently does Hannity, who does at least one story a day that Beck initiated…only, of course, several days after Beck got the ball rolling.

      O’Keefe brought him the ACORN videos simply because Beck had been pushing the need to investigate ACORN long before anybody else did (he did at least four shows on ACORN before O’Reilly got involved with it, for example, and that was only after Beck came on O’Reilly’s show and started talking about what he was doing (which led to the O’Reilly’s weekly “At Your Beck and Call” segment.)

      And , by the way, Rush takes Beck very seriously too, as indicated by having come on his show and by the fact that he has made several very laudatory references to him on his own show and during interviews on others’ shows.

      So please don’t include ‘me’ in the ‘we’ you claim is conservative. You’re the kind of conservative that has given us complete Democratic Legislative and Executive branches, and is working on turning SCOTUS liberal as well. Your kind of conservative is happy to let groups like ACORN keep on truckin’, never would have exposed Van Jones, never would have made the links between Jeff Jones and the Apollo project, never would have pointed out the facts behind Obama’s radical associations (that Hannity always said should be looked-at but that he never went any deeper on than William Ayers and Reverend Wright).

      You are free certainly to have your opinion, but since you chose to publicly express it, I’ll express mine.

      As far as I’m concerned, Beck’s in, you’re out.

      • AngryMatt

        But there’s no way in all hell I’d watch MSNBC. Nor would I watch CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS or even FNC either honestly. I stick to the wire and the web for my news thank you. I don’t need the filters of idiocy that are the talking heads.

        I’ve never discounted Beck’s ability to stir things up nor do I think we should run away from him when he hits on something. But his style and his overriding message is not one of optimism nor is it usually based in fact. That’s the difference between him and Rush or Hannity or the great writers at NR and WeeklyStandard.

        Beck, Breitbart and company serve a purpose, but let’s not crown them with leadership positions in conservatism please. It turned my stomach enough to watch “us” nominate a clown and leftist appeaser like McCain that I don’t want to see conservatism do a total 180 and put guys like Beck on a pedestal. We need strong leaders, we need leaders that refuse to compromise our core values during debate on important policy issues like health care, national defense and energy. We need to get rid of the “moderate” clowns in the party, the vapid mind running the GOP (see Steele, Michael) and not rely on praying that the Maine sisters actually do something right to get what we want in the Senate.

        But we also need to ensure that we don’t lose the high ground on intellect, leadership and optimism about America. I fear embracing muckracking, rudeness and anti-factual rumors will stall the huge wave of momentum we’re building for 2010 and beyond. That’s all.

        • Streiff

          I stick to the wire and the web for my news thank you. I don

        • Aaron Gardner

          Really, who is calling Beck the leader of Conservatism?

          Seriously get a grip…you went on attack because of a cartoon that calls Time Mag out for the hatchet job they did on Beck. Do you work for Time or something?

        • Richard Mullins

          when they might be right. Beck has been a bit paranoid over the years but a lot of it had a reason. I’m an optimist as well, but there is no reason to but Glen Beck down for being paranoid. This admin has given everything it can to paranoid people and when exposed as such. At least he hasn’t used the Paranoid train on TV like he does on radio.

        • http://hillbillypolitics.com Steph C

          Winston Churchill. People thought he was mad at one time, too.

          Is Beck out there? Yeah, but it’s funny how so much of what he has said, in just the way he said it, has been true. I, for one, will not dismiss anything he says until it is proven false. Forewarned is forearmed. We (humanity as a whole) have a tendency to label people as loony when we don’t want to consider that as crazy as it sounds, he may be right. We don’t want to believe the worst so we try to rationalize it away as crazy talk.

          Are we looking at a replay of Germany and Hitler? Not likely. There will be similarities and dissimilarities. This will be its “own thing” but just as bad as any happening that has happened before.

        • UpLateAgain

          that Beck apparently causes you, AM, you really probably shouldn’t watch him.

        • http://beaglescout.wordpress.com LJ “Beaglescout” Miller

          You need to vet what he actually says instead of depending on the liars in your much loved Pravda media for your fact checking. By the way, are you serious? Are AP and Reuters (and presumably McClatchy) your unbiased sources for checking Beck?

          • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens
        • UpLateAgain

          on Yosi Sargent and his attempted use of the National Endowment for the Arts as a propaganda medium to advance Obama’s agenda.

          Hannity thought it was a very important story, because such use is a clear violation of federal law, and Sargent has already been relieved of his position, seen by Hannity as a fundamental admission of guilt. Today is 09-21-09, and Hannity is now covering it.

          Beck broke that story three weeks ago.

          My question is… how do you hold Hannity in high regard, but disavow Beck, when Hannity spends a significant portion of his time belatedly discussing the stories that Beck Breaks?

    • Finrod

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    • TXpatriot

      Perhaps you should watch him for more than 3 minutes. I have been a Beck fan for years. I guess I’m just ‘crazy’!
      The man has balls, and is exposing the progressives for what they are, and what they are attempting, in their own words…… We need more like him!!

  • AngryMatt

    A couple years of not posting here and I write a book. Hrm, that should be enough for another half-decade or so of reading, nodding and telling my friends. As you were.

    • janis

      Bon voyage. I don’t how we lived without you for a couple of years, but we’ll try to man up and get along on our own again.

    • http://brockwayfamily.spaces.live.com/ Erick Brockway

      It’s just a rule change is all. We’re not going to be nice as we get b*slapped repeatedly by the left. Their own rules are being used against them, and we’ll be relentless.
      Beck isn’t anybody’s leader here, but he is a focal point, an attention getter, and a mobilizer.
      You had to have noticed the Teaparty crowds?
      They are growing exponentially and will continue to do so as more and more people find out what’s going on and get their dander up.
      And, unlike a lot of the astroturfed left, the Teaparty folks are legal to vote.

  • http://leehurdcpa.com LeeH

    why would I buy a news magazine with Beck sticking his tongue out at me? Did Time really think this one through?

    • http://hillbillypolitics.com Steph C

      /sarcasm

      • blooch

        on the cover. Time prints the word things on paper inside to keep up appearances.

        • naraht

          And *that* thought is truly scary.

  • johnt

    but when you are fighting for your life you don’t start looking up pedigrees on your allies. The right/conservative side is great on this, there’s always a number who can raise their noses and sniff at their lesser counterparts, always some who will prove their moderation [ O blessed thing ] by attacking a rightist, then awaiting the kudos that never come from the media.

    The left never does this, fighting as they are for the ultimate, centralized State. NY Times. Keith Olbermann, what’s the difference, we’re all brothers seems to be the attitude.

    Many conservative seem brain dead as to what we are facing in terms of leftist ruthlessness, they, like NR, are still back in the 50′s & 60′s when the beast was not so ravenous.
    “Must be polite at all times” is the password. Thanks, but I’ll take the help from where I can get it & sort out my scruples afterwards.

    • Aaron Gardner

      At least not in my view. Buckley just did it with stinging wit. He wasn’t into comity, heck he told Chomsky that he would punch him in the face.

      • johnt

        If you believe the contrary, that NR was impolite, so be it.
        We are a world apart on this, especially given today’s fevers. So I will bow out on what is a side point.

        • Aaron Gardner

          And no I don’t think NR was impolite either. They were unapologetic, that’s the best way to put it.

          I am totally down for the knife fights and going double barrel against all leftists, bluedog dems, and the “moderate” capitulation sect in our own party.

          I think we probably live on the same block…I’m the guy with the Gun rack and a Fred Thompson sticker on my Jeep. ;^)

          • johnt

            noted, A OK with me.

          • UpLateAgain

            Good way to put it AG. Unapologetic. And loathe to compromise. In WFB’s own words, “Cancel your own G** Damn** subscription.”

  • diakrioi

    Look at the business world. There are companies who play it safe and their are companies that operate on the leading edge. They also call it the “bleeding edge” and it isn’t just because it sounds cool.

    On the leading edge you will be wrong much of the time. You will fall on your face often. But the payoff when you are right, when you are an early innovator and the innovation works, can be huge and can wipe out all the failures overnight.

    Glenn Beck is Conservatism’s leading edge innovator. As such, he will be wrong often, he will take the wrong path and the weak-willed will be embarrassed by the failures. But when he hits it will be big – it will look like genius.

    We need him. We need him desperately. The alternative is to continue to watch the country slip slowly toward the left, slowly toward central planning, slouching toward Gomorrah.

    Matt would have us take risk only when the odds are good. I say to hell with that. I say fortune favors the bold!

    • aesthete

      He’s doing a job that few really want to do simply because of the level of inaccuracy (wouldn’t want the fellas at the faculty club to think that you could err, after all), and crucifying one of our own after he has “hit the big one” just discourages us as a political movement from innovating, for fear that our own comrades will disown us.

  • smitch61

    It’s all good, your definitely entitled to your opinion… I am not a huge fan of Beck at all. I appreciate his efforts, what he has accomplished, and of course his right to say it. I find Beck to be a tad on the arrogant side..and lately he has been getting on my nerves. I have stopped watching him altogether. Matt, no need to defend yourself on this site because you cannot really. If you make a comment that sounds remotely middle of the road or non conservative… They come out of the woodwork and call you a troll, or lib, or leftist, or whatever… Just laugh it off. I made a comment once about the GOP and their lack of focus… and posters called me everything under the sun. Beck is a Libertarian, not a conservative. He will push the third party which will be a loss for us for sure.

    • Aaron Gardner
    • Richard Mullins

      then why would he have disagreements with Libertarians? He’s never stated that he’s Libertarian on TV or radio, so I don’t know where your coming from on this?

      • UpLateAgain

        recently, that he considers himself a Conservative, but becoming more and more Libertarian every day.

        • Richard Mullins

          and I don’t libertarianism but I can’t stand it in fullest form. 2/3 of libertarianism is fine, it the other 1/3 I can’t stand.

    • AngryMatt

      Not I sir. I’m not a troll either, just trying to promote some discussion. But I do suppose I could be branded with the “elitist” label since I have degrees in polisci and English Literature. Let me tell you, that was hilarious fun; being the only conservative male in the entire school getting an English Lit degree. And I rubbed it in their faces every chance I got.. and graduated with honors to boot!

      I’m more libertarian than Beck, at least I think I am. I’m more authoritarian than say, Penn & Teller, but way more permissive than Hannity for instance. I’m opposed to gay marriage but also opposed to a federal law against it. A constitutional amendment? Sure, not that it will pass. But marriage laws are state matters. I’ll vote against gay marriage (and did last year when FL put it up) but I don’t care if other states pass it since what civil laws declare valid is immaterial in the eyes of God.

      I push for a federal ban on abortion, however, because of the equal protection clause. Unborn children are just as human as the rest of us and since the Constitution has declared all are equal under the law regardless of what the states say, then that protection should be given to the unborn.

      Maybe it’s because I hate extreme invectives and arguments that aren’t well-reasoned and balanced. Maybe it’s because when I saw Lefties protesting in the streets against the war with their hatred of Bush and America it made me want to throw up. Maybe it’s because I really, REALLY hate 9/11 truthers. I don’t know. But they all seem to follow the same playbook of blatantly ignoring facts (see also: birthers), protesting in the streets to get attention while spewing those same untruths, and going for the throat every time they got three seconds of airtime.

      I think there’s plenty of room to play hardball, to refuse to back down to those who would see this nation turned into a pathetic and dying welfare state and to proclaim the goodness of America without resorting to lines and actions that make our side seem ignorant, rude and just plain mean.

      I’ll close with an example. Standing up in townhall meetings and telling off your congressman? Good. They need to be held accountable. Yelling “you lie” in the midst of a joint session of Congress no matter what the POTUS says? Bad form. Telling it like it is that co-ops are the public option lite and what the public option REALLY is all about is not competition but a government takeover? Good. Because that’s the reality. Saying that a televised address to students amounts to indoctrination? Bad, because that’s absurd.

      Sorry to ruffle the feathers of all those that love the hero du jour. I just don’t see it.

      • Aaron Gardner

        Beck is neither a truther nor a birther, not sure why you are trying to push that. You should really provide some cites to back up those accusations or retract them.

      • Richard Mullins

        so might want to come off of that pedestal and return to the real world(something you don’t seem to in right now).

        • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister
          • Richard Mullins

            otherwise I would say he’s he biggest jerk of the day(we get too many here and one is a recurring one that I don’t need to mention).

      • janis

        His actions focused more attention on the subject of his outburst, and outburst that was true, by the way, and it made a difference as coverage for illegal aliens was ruled out. Well, until Obama can make them legal and give it to them for free anyway. But it certainly did make certain that everyone knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that Obama WAS LYING in his speech.

        As to Obama’s speech to schoolchildren, the lesson plan that originally came with it was definitely indoctrination. The uproar it caused got that part canceled. Again, the outcry had valuable results.

        You are free to go sit in the “Reserved for Those with Manners” corner, and we rude boobs will continue to get results.

        • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

          His outburst completely changed the debate. And I wish Rep. Shimkus, of Illinois, who walked out of the liar’s lying rant, would have gotten more notice for his action of disapproval. I called his office to thank him for having done so.

          Thank you.

          ColdWarrior

          www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com

          • Finrod

            This is the first I’ve heard from anyone about Rep. Shimkus walking out during the speech. Would that the whole Republican caucus had grown a pair and followed him out.

          • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

            He’s an alumnus of mine so I called him to thank him. Interesting to note that Shimkus and Joe Wilson are both Army guys. Would that Lindsey Graham, an Air Force Reserve JAG officer, also would have walked out, but I guess that would have only happened if his hero John McCain had done so.

            http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2009/09/shimkus_walked_on_obama_frustr.html

            http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/09/rep-shimkus-walked-out-of-obamas-speech.html

            http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/Illinois-Congressman-Walked-Out-on-Obama-58572462.html

            Thank you.

            ColdWarrior

            www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com

          • nessa
      • diakrioi

        The Judge states the case for Joe Wilson succinctly in this piece.
        http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/09/18/judge-andrew-napolitano-joe-wilson-right-obama/#

  • tfunk

    It’s an interesting primer to those who haven’t seen his show.

    I’ll be surprised if he doesn’t get a ratings boost from it.

    http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1924348-1,00.html

  • JamesonLewis3rd

    There are no “followers” of Beck. Or Limbaugh. Or et al.

    They do not think for anybody.

    Elitists think they are being clever when they patronize those with whom they have no familiarity. They actually think their ad hominem criticisms are taken seriously. They think these things because this is what they are told to think. In other words, they are Projecting.