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McCain Giving Obama the Business over Iraq*. (Fixed.)

This would be the old one-two, you see.

Posted by: Moe Lane

Friday, July 18, 2008 at 04:31PM

47 Comments

One:

....aannnnnnd then Two:

The Possum Speaks Truly

http://www.redstate.com/static/redstate/doc/2008/07/18/OBAMA_TRAVEL_PACKET.doc

I don't know which is going to tick off Obama supporters more - and truth be told? I can't say that I remotely care. Hey, it's not my fault that the Democrats seem ready to nominate a candidate who, if they had cut Hillary Clinton in half, would have ended up being the third most qualified national security choice among the Democrats...

Moe Lane

*Surely you have heard of "Giving Him the Business." No?

Mind you, it's not a perfect match: after all, Obama deserves every single bit of it.



Comments

  1. You're goading new trolls, aren't you, Moe?

    blooch (link)

    Shaffer's Udall smackdown was a good start. Let's see where this goes.

    "I am aware this is RedState, part of the Republican Wing of the Republican Party, which is why I didn't use my own login. But Breaux really is a solid choice."-mccainbreaux

  2. really sad

    bigdaddydog (link)

    i've been a republican since '79 when the candidacy of reagan gave america something new and different. the reagan days were not perfect but nonetheless effective and his presidency transformed not only america but the world. i find it really sad to see the master flip-flopper mcsame lower himself to the levels he has; i am seriously considering sen. obama as our only hope for respectability and decency in the world as well as our only hope for changing the status quo in this country. mcsame of '00 would never vote for the mcsame of today and sadly he knows it as well as many respectable and honest republicans do.

    1. Lemme see

      Dan McLaughlin (link)

      *Registered 18 minutes ago Claims to be longstanding Republican Uses "mcsame"

      I think I can recite the rest of the script from memory by now.

      "No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong." - Winston Churchill

      1. WELL CHECK THIS

        bigdaddydog (link)

        THE NAME IS KEITH LANDRY; REGISTERED REPUBLICAN SINCE JULY '79. WAS I SUPPOSED TO REGISTER HERE ALSO "DAN"? LAFAYETTE, LOUISIANA.- CHECK IT BIG "DANNY"

        1. OK, let's try it this way

          Dan McLaughlin (link)

          Following on rdwiggins' point below:

          Describe what about Obama's experience and specific issue positions should appeal to a person who has chosen the Republican candidate over the Democratic candidate consistently in a variety of elections over the past three decades, including supporting Reagan and George W Bush. No vague generalities, please.

          "No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong." - Winston Churchill

        2. Dan

          Rod_Patrick (link)

          So what do you want from us? Reject our conservative principles and destroy our Party because they didn't work so well according to your ways?

          And enjoin us to join your Rockstar Obama? Last time I looked, Obama is a Socialist whose ideas are totally contradictory to our republican/conservative values and principles of governance.

          If your so-called McSame is the biggest ffloppers, then shall we call your Obama then?

          My answer to you:

          The greatest liar of all time!

          Proof?

          Fools don't need proof. They are believers.

          1. ?

            Rod_Patrick (link)

            Sorry Dan.

            This is for Keith Landry.

            My mistake.

    2. If you are as you say....

      rbdwiggins (link)

      and you are a lifelong Republican, then you certainly realize that Obama is incompetent and dangerously inexperienced.


      “Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so.” – Ronald Reagan

    3. hmmmm

      Darin_H (link)

      There is something that you and Obama have in common. You both make rookie mistakes.

    4. bigdaddy, you left your original draft in the typewriter...

      CSUFBomb (link)

      i've been a democrat since '79 when the candidacy of reagan nearly drove the world into a nuclear holocaust. the reagan days were a devastating blow to my communist comrades and his presidency transformed not only america, which really doesn’t count, but the world. i find it really sad to see the master flip-flopper mcsame lower himself to the levels he has; i am seriously considering my lord and savior sen. obama as our only hope for a socialist paradise on earth and long overdue redistribution of wealth from those greedy corporate pigs as well as our only hope and change and hope for hoping and changing the status quo in this country.

      -- "We want great men who, when fortune frowns, will not be discouraged." - Colonel Henry Knox

      1. 555 LOL, nail meet head

        Vegas_Rick (link)

        n/t

        Those who control energy, control society.

    5. Translation: "Ow! Ow! Quit it! Quit it!"

      Moe Lane (link)

      You guys really don't know how to take the punch, do you?

      The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!

      1. What punch?

        Rod_Patrick (link)

        I hate mcsame.

        I'm proud of Pres. GWB and I don't want anyone, especially Sen. McCain, to copy him.

        Let McCain be McCain. My Bush is his own.

        Or I'm missing somethin. If so, what?

        1. I was talking to bigdaddydog, Rod_Patrick.

          Moe Lane (link)

          He clearly didn't handle well watching Obama get slapped around by McCain. :)

          The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!

          1. Yah.

            Rod_Patrick (link)

            I get it. I still get confused with the blue bar/line. This is the second time.

  3. Moe, you're inviting trolls to RS?

    Rod_Patrick (link)

    1. TGIF

      blooch (link)

      Trolls Get In Free!!

      Go load up at the taco bar, grab a seat, and watch 'em stumble in from the check-cashing store next door.

      "I am aware this is RedState, part of the Republican Wing of the Republican Party, which is why I didn't use my own login. But Breaux really is a solid choice."-mccainbreaux

  4. Please take your 15 minutes of membership

    Vegas_Rick (link)

    and take it to the Daily Kos where you belong. Few on this site support Senator McCain without reservation. But EVERY Republican on this site will do whatever is necessary to defeat the empty suit. Our country can't afford a socialist in the White House.

    I'm sure your opinions will be welcomed by the netroots.

    Those who control energy, control society.

    1. I guess I must relearn "Reply to this"

      Vegas_Rick (link)

      My post was directed to bigdaddydog.

      Screen name suggests a bloated ego. :)

      Those who control energy, control society.

    2. Is there a moonbat script database?

      Dave_in_Fla (link)

      Do the moonbats have some unified database with all their talking points and scripts provided for them? They never say anything original, and seem incapable of conducting a rational discussion without resorting distortions of out right lies. Its like when anyone drives them off script, they have nothing to fall back on other than, "well you suck, bigot homophobe!"

      Someone should really go undercover and see if they can get the URL and password.

      "If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country."

      1. Well, there's the original model

        Dan McLaughlin (link)

        But they have upgraded the software with some new talking points since then.

        "No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong." - Winston Churchill

      2. The moonbat script database...

        rbdwiggins (link)

        can be found at dkos, firedoglake and the dnc.

        Of course to compile the list, you must wade through mountains of endless profanity and incoherent ramblings.


        “Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so.” – Ronald Reagan

  5. It's a college rule too Moe

    Darin_H (link)

    1. I expect to see a lot of that this year

      Kyle (link)

      in the big twelve. Gosh I am so geeked up for football. It can't happen a moment too soon.

      "Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty" Kyle

  6. "Obama takes a beating in new ad"

    Dan McLaughlin (link)

    If you check the CNN front page, that's how they are headlining the item on this ad. Niiiiiiiice.

    "No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong." - Winston Churchill

  7. I don't get it, what is this giving the business in these football video clips?

    Cheetah772 (link)

    Before you throw tomatoes at me. I am deaf, so I don't know what these football video clips are about. Do you mean that somebody committed a penalty, and the referee was calling him out? That is the only thing I could guess from watching those football video clips.

    Daniel 2:20 And he [God] changeth the times and seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding.

    1. Yeah, you miss the humor without sound or captions

      mcg (link)

      The ref in both cases describe the foul thusly: "he was giving him the business"

      1. I can live without sounds, at least I don't have to listen to Obama's speeches. You do. ;)

        Cheetah772 (link)

        It sucks to be a hearing person, doesn't it? Just kidding...

        Daniel 2:20 And he [God] changeth the times and seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding.

        1. Not so fast.

          Rod_Patrick (link)

          Obama has asked his MSM minions to stay (not part of the entourage) and act as the Evangelists of hope and change to foolish republicans/conservatives while their Messiah is preaching the gospel of lies to the remaining 7 or 8 states in Europe and Middle East.

          Meanwhile, you will be seeing BO all over the news doing the JFK and Reagan things.

          In short, expect to hear many more bold and lying speeches. And we will die suffering from the audacity of lies.

          Antidote: Don't turn on your TVs. and don't buy newspapers

    2. Essentially, it was an ad-hoc penalty call.

      Moe Lane (link)

      The referee was reacting to one player fighting with another player, only the first player had gotten the second one down and was really whaling on him. The ref didn't like that, and must have been a Godfather fan, or something. :)

      The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!

  8. Don't take this as gospel

    exileoc (link)

    yet bush talks with president of Iraq today about a withdrawal timetable. He's buckling because the iraqi's don't want us there. They don't have us to have a base set up there in the same sense the English had their British empire etc etc etc (you should thank me for not using the word "oil")

    Obama didn't vote against our troops. He didn't join in because there was no timing for withdrawal on that bill.

    HOWEVER. Mccain voted AGAINST HR 1591 which funded the troops BUT supported a withdrawal timetable as well.

    See a trend here? I kinda would like to take a moment here to ask if we all could look at these ads and read the facts before we take them as gospel. I consider a portion of liberal advertising, much in the sense of this conservative attack ad, as partial or total bullst. Is Obama an evil monster? Is McCain an evil monster? No, they are just guys making decisions. But it's so easy to turn our opponents into villains.

    So please... spin spin spin the hell of out this all you want, but take it all with a grain of salt.

    1. Now, don't pout, exileoc.

      Moe Lane (link)

      It's not our fault Obama chose the wrong side in this particular moral quandary.

      The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!

    2. Ha!

      bbsci (link)

      The Bus knows no compassion! Like an Aztec God it demands blood, and Obama will comply.

      Obama is not a man making decisions, he's the Obamessiah come to lead the faithful to a Socialist paradise.

    3. Are you a troll?

      Rod_Patrick (link)

      Any link to your reference in the above alleged info?

      yet bush talks with president of Iraq today about a withdrawal timetable. He's buckling because the iraqi's don't want us there. They don't have us to have a base set up there in the same sense the English had their British empire etc etc etc (you should thank me for not using the word "oil")

      On the following para, who said he did? He did so many things that he said he wouldn't do anyway.

      Obama didn't vote against our troops. He didn't join in because there was no timing for withdrawal on that bill.

      This is your own spin:

      HOWEVER. Mccain voted AGAINST HR 1591 which funded the troops BUT supported a withdrawal timetable as well.

      You're lying? Have you read the lengthy bill? With all the amenities of becoming a veteran, almost 2/3 of the current enlisted men will the military. Good for the Anti-War movement, your friends. McCain's position is simple: Wrong incentives with ominous results. The Devil here is in the details. Seems you haven't read the Bill after all.

      I kinda would like to take a moment here to ask if we all could look at these ads and read the facts before we take them as gospel.

      Yeah. Check the ad of Obama's fflopping. No explanation is necessary.

      I consider a portion of liberal advertising, much in the sense of this conservative attack ad, as partial or total bullst. Is Obama an evil monster? Is McCain an evil monster? No, they are just guys making decisions.

      You think that this election is a war. No, this is just a fight for the right direction of this country. BTW, your statements sound like an appeasement.

      Who's spinning? Your Obama's MSM is spinning the news to evade the critical questions and issues about your candidate.

      No. In RS,we're calling a spade a spade. Look how frank we are here at RS:

      • Are Libertarians, Ron Paul,CODEPINK, MOVEON and Communists are one in the issue of war - appeasement/pacifism?
      • Are there communists in Democratic Party?
      • Are there socialists in Democratic Party?
      • Is Obama a Socialist?
      • Is Obama a Communist? and, finally,
      • Are you a troll?
      1. Yes, he is,

        blooch (link)

        and worth no more than a 2 sentence reply, if any. Watch how Moe does it.

        "I am aware this is RedState, part of the Republican Wing of the Republican Party, which is why I didn't use my own login. But Breaux really is a solid choice."-mccainbreaux

        1. What can I say, Big Brothers Dan and Moe are troll-killers!

          Rod_Patrick (link)

          Lit'l John Rod's so proud of his two Brothas.

      2. NO BS!!

        bigdaddydog (link)

        WELL, I EXPRESSED MY OPINION HONESTLY TO YOU WITHOUT NAME-CALLING EXCEPT FOR SEN. MCCAIN AND ONLY BECAUSE HE CHOOSES TO STAND ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE ISSUES AS PRESIDENT BUSH. AS FOR OBAMA, I DO HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINIONS WITH HIM BUT I DO ADMIRE HIS CONSTANT TAKING THE HIGH ROAD. I DON'T THINK ANYONE COULD POSSIBLY HEAD THE HARVARD LAW REVIEW, GRADUATE FROM HARVARD, GET ELECTED TO HIS STATE LEGISLATURE, THE UNITED STATES SENATE AND THEN BEAT THE CLINTON POLITICAL MACHINE WITH "AN EMPTY SUIT". ONE THING I DO AGREE WITH HIM ON IS THAT WE NEED A NEW ERA OF BI-PARTISANSHIP IN WASHINGTON. ANOTHER THING I DO AGREE WITH HIM ON IS THAT WASHINGTON NEEDS TO RID ITSELF OF THE LOBBYISTS, SPECIAL INTERESTS AND CAREER POLITICIANS. I'M FINE WITH HIS EXPERIENCE AS ANYONE AS SUCCESSFUL AS HE'S BEEN IN EVERY ENDEAVOR HE'S UNDERTAKEN, HE SHOULD BE FINE. THE NAME-CALLING AND PARTISANSHIP IS A PERFECT EXCUSE FOR OUR POLITICAL LEADERS TO NEVER GET ANYTHING ACCOMPLISHED; THEY ALL HAVE FORGOTTEN THAT THEY SOUGHT OUT OFFICE AS PUBLIC SERVANTS.BETTER TO TEAR THE NEXT GUY DOWN INSTEAD OF RESPECTING HIS RIGHT TO HAVE DIFFERING BELIEFS IN BETTERING THE COUNTRY?

        1. Ah, all-caps. Well played, Dan (and Rod).

          Moe Lane (link)

          Well-played.

          The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!

          1. [takes a bow]

            Dan McLaughlin (link)

            I knew one more comment would drop the mask.

            The funniest part is the people who claim to have been Republicans up to this point - i.e., [i]voted for Bush twice[/i] - and yet object to McCain on the grounds that he is like Bush.

            "No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong." - Winston Churchill

            1. Perfectly called shot (nt)

              Neil Stevens (link)

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        2. You're under the misimpression that we're fans of "Bipartisanship", are you?

          Martin Knight (link)

          My ... do you have a lot to learn.


          "First you win the argument, then you win the vote." - MARGARET THATCHER.
          So let's start winning the argument.
        3. Great big dog, the empty suit didn't beat

          janis (link)

          beat the Clinton machine, the media did it for him. Well, with Billy Bob's help, but still....

          And, quick, name 5 things that Obama has accomplished other than getting himself elected. What bills has he sponsored and gotten through the process to get passed? No, no, not the ones he co-opted from others, but ones he actually put out there himself. And what bipartisan efforts was he a part of?

          crickets*

      3. Erratum

        Rod_Patrick (link)

        The statement

        With all the amenities of becoming a veteran, almost 2/3 of the current enlisted men will the military. should read as:

        With all the amenities/incentives of immediately halting/ending one's service in the military to become a veteran and enjoy its benefits as offered by the Bill, almost 2/3 of the current young enlisted men will leave the military.

      4. amazing

        exileoc (link)

        shocking how some of you didn't read what I wrote. I come here spreading "McCain hate" so you just shut down and go on the attack. I was giving you another spin on the matter to prove a point. That we can SPIN anything, so don't take it as gospel. God damn.

        As for trolling? So I bring an argument to the table you don't like and that makes me a troll. No I'm just a guy who is asking everyone to find some middle ground in their souls and quit hating someone for the sake of hating them.

    4. yeah yeah

      Darin_H (link)

      "When the Iraqis step up, we will step down."

      The Iraqis have been stepping up......

  9. I was briefly confused

    jeffmacguy (link)

    I thought that was an official Obama document and he'd whipped out the 'possum logo again...

    Guess I'm getting gulible in my old age.

    c'est la vie


    Nope.

    1. No. But it is a document...

      rbdwiggins (link)

      containing Obama's words and official positions....

      And a few questions we'd all like to hear answered.

      A small tidbit.

      You have said, “We can safely redeploy our combat brigades at a pace that would remove them in 16 months.” Martha Raddatz of ABC News reports that “several commanders who looked at the Obama plan told ABC News, on background, that there was ‘no way’ it could work logistically.” Why, in your considered judgment, are the officers on the ground wrong?


      “Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so.” – Ronald Reagan


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