Barack Obama is set to speak at the Victory Column in Berlin. The Victory Column commemorates Germany's last military victory over France and Austria in the last 1860's - early 1870's. From that link:
Berlin authorities say that as many as a million people could attend. Four TV stations are broadcasting the entire speech, and the rest are scrambling to secure prime locations at the site.
Originally, the column was in a different location, but Hitler moved it in 1939 to its present location. He too wanted a beautiful stage and backdrop in Berlin. I'll refrain from pointing out the irony here.
Fast forward from 1939 to 2008 and Barack Obama will take the stage at the Victory Column. I'm sure Barack Obama is unperturbed by the military and Nazi history of the Victory Column and only recognizes it as being in U2's video for "Stay (Faraway, So Close!)".
But, okay, I can't help myself, Barack Obama is using propaganda FILMED IN GERMANY MADE POSSIBLE BY THE NAZIS RELOCATING THE FREAKING STATUTE!!!!!!! to woo Americans to vote for him. He's going to have freaking film crews there and the media to make sure the full emotional impact reaches back to the United States.
And why do this in Germany and not the Middle East? Because those rednecks in Pennsylvania and Michigan will not be so tipped off to see a mass of white folks applauding Obama as they would a mass of Arabs. And the rednecks won't be able to tell the Germans from Americans.
So win-win for Obama. But again, I find it both ironic and amusing that Barack Obama is going to Germany and is using Germans in Berlin at a location Hitler himself set up for aesthetic purposes in order to woo American voters.
The man has no shame. He'll say anything and do anything to get himself elected.
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Oh, and it's even more funny if he really did, as news reports are suggesting, use Hamas/Fatah for security while in Israel.
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Oh, and you lefties who would point out Kennedy and Reagan at the Brandenburg gate fail to understand history. They were there on substantive matters in relations between the East and West during the Cold War. What purpose does Obama have other than campaigning for office and whipping up the crowd into a frenzy? He is not, after all, an elected world leader. Oh, and then there is the total number of attendees? Only half of Berlin was able to show up for Kennedy and Reagan.
Arrogance
IndependentfrMI July 24th, 2008 at 8:58 a.m. CDT (link)
It's no wonder the Europeans see Americans as arrogant and self absorbed when they see this man acting like he is the president of the US when he is a junior senator with little to no experience with the world affairs and US affairs for that matter. He only dealt with Chicago and that makes him presidential? If we had a world government Obama would be the messiah to them but to the United States he will defeat what this great country has fought for, Freedom. Under Obama rule he will decide what is best for all of us and make us live with less and make us dependent on government. He will also take from the people who have worked for their gains and give it to the people who have not. Exactly what Hugo Chavez has done.
Ben Stein last night on Glenn Beck
pilgrim July 24th, 2008 at 9:29 a.m. CDT (link)
Ben sees some troubling irony with obamessiah's delivering an acceptance speech at Denver's football stadium.
Extreme taxation, excessive controls, oppressive government competition with business … frustrated minorities and forgotten Americans are not the products of free enterprise.Ronald Reagan
Will they miss the full effect?
Crowe July 24th, 2008 at 10:04 a.m. CDT (link)
I'm wondering how well Obama's talk will go over, though, considering the crowd is not primarily English-speakers. Plenty of Europeans know English, but rhetorical flourishes that send tinges up people's legs here in the states just won't translate as well into German, IMHO...
I wonder if they'll have the German equivalent of an "Applause" sign...
"Do not fear, only believe." (Mark 5:36)
The effect will be created
blooch July 24th, 2008 at 11:01 a.m. CDT (link)
and yes, cue the Beifallsturm. They're very good with that sort of thing. I can't wait to see the puppets and parade floats.
"Basically, Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton have only 2 things in common: their gender and their good looks."--spam
Liberal fascism?
Hermes July 24th, 2008 at 10:52 a.m. CDT (link)
Once again, the Messiah from Illinois shows the true face of modern leftism: unreconstructed 1930's Bolshevism. Let's be honest here, folks, Hitler was a LOT closer in his policies and outlook to Stalin than he was to Mussolini or Franco. I think the recent rallying cry amongst some conservatives that the liberals are fascist is quite wrong; let's call them what they are: Bolsheviks.
Obama, in his, I'll be generous and say unintended, homage to Hitler merely demonstrates "Fearless Leader" syndrome. Boris and Natascha would feel right at home working for him; oh, wait, I forgot they already are (see, Reid, Harry and Pelosi, Nancy). This man's sheer arrogance is amazing. Look at his beliefs, his attitudes, his approach to politics: there lies the ghost of Stalin, not Franco.
Barry v. Barry
Hermes July 24th, 2008 at 11:15 a.m. CDT (link)
Obama's obsession with mass crowds (such as his upcoming speech in Denver) is not the mark of a statesman or a professional. It's the mark of a megalomaniac. Again, cue Stalin reference.
This reminds me, on a much smaller scale, of Barry Sanders. Unlike just about every other high profile skill-position player, Sanders was never a glory-hound. Even when he made spectacular, highlight-reel plays, he'd just hand the ball to the ref. No spikes, no two-minute celebrations, no cell phones hidden in goal-post padding, etc. Barry Sanders was the consummate professional on the field. Contrast that with another Barry who wouldn't recognize professionalism if it hit him on his already massively enlarged head.
Ha Ha check out German Obama '08 buttons
pilgrim July 24th, 2008 at 12:08 p.m. CDT (link)
A collection of German Obama '08 buttons
gonna need beer in massive quantity if Obama wins.
Extreme taxation, excessive controls, oppressive government competition with business … frustrated minorities and forgotten Americans are not the products of free enterprise.Ronald Reagan
New Chancelor
IndependentfrMI July 24th, 2008 at 12:38 p.m. CDT (link)
Now that the junior senator from IL has made his stop in Germany, to give his speech to Whom? and Why? Exactly what will the German people hear Harump...Harump.....harump? If they love him the way the media wants us to see then let him gain German citizenship and run for Chancelor. We know his world tour has taken him to new heights, but at what cost? Where is the concern for the American people instead of worrying about what the Europeans think of our government. Let us remind him he aint pres yet!!!!! and he has made no major decisions while in the US senate.
Cultic Mass-appeal is so .... 20th century
Freedoms Truth July 24th, 2008 at 12:38 p.m. CDT (link)
When the speech is over, can we channel Molly Ivins and say (as she did of a Buchanan speech) ...
"Nice speech, but I preferred it in the original German."
Freedoms Truth @ Travis Monitor (aka WOSG) http://travismonitor.blogspot.com
Enough
Vryheid July 24th, 2008 at 1:34 p.m. CDT (link)
Enough Germanophobia already. Yes, Obama is terrible but just because he is in Berlin doesn't mean he has any connection to the Third Reich.
don't blame us blame Obama....
Aaron Gardner July 24th, 2008 at 1:47 p.m. CDT (link)
Obama is the one who chose this venue to CAMPAIGN at just like Hitler....oh and spare me you weak attempt to deflect this conversation as some sort of xenophobic reaction to the good people of Germany...it is not the people of Germany that we have a problem with, it is Obama and his propagandist styling juxtaposed against the history of the venue HE CHOSE
"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!
Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger
"I'll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust" Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah...yes I love it that much.
But he just said
blooch July 24th, 2008 at 2:14 p.m. CDT (link)
he's not there as a politician today, just a humble, lovable citizen of the world,who happens to look different than other American politicians who've spoken in Berlin before him.
This is not a politcal rally, after all. It's just a big chat with thousands of his new friends, We're supposed to ratchet back on the comparison to 20th century politicians and just feel the love vibe.
Get with the program and enjoy the puppets and polar bears, Aaron;)
"Basically, Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton have only 2 things in common: their gender and their good looks."--spam
heh...funny sounded like a campaign speech to me...;^)
Aaron Gardner July 24th, 2008 at 2:30 p.m. CDT (link)
And I just love how he worked in the "Oh, Did I mention I am Black" shtick into his message...wasn't that just great...cause you know white people just aren't as hip...this guys is so full of his own BS it has become comical.
"Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper" Peter Griffin...Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity....or else!!!
Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger
"I'll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust" Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah...yes I love it that much.
Germanophobia?!?
Freedoms Truth July 24th, 2008 at 6:11 p.m. CDT (link)
Germanophobia - That is a curious deflection and elocuation indeed. So when the left calls Bush "Bushitler" that is Germanophobia?
I don't care about the name-calling either way, but if you cant see the parallels between the (in)famous Nuremberg rally of the 1930s and the cult-mass-appeal staged stadium events for Obama, you're not paying attention.
Triumph-of-the-Axelrod!
Freedoms Truth @ Travis Monitor (aka WOSG) http://travismonitor.blogspot.com
Couldn't agree more, Vryheid
Hermes July 24th, 2008 at 6 p.m. CDT (link)
Obama should be giving his speeches in Red Square, not Berlin. He is far more Stalin, than Hitler.
wait, i'm confused
PosterNutbag July 24th, 2008 at 2:49 p.m. CDT (link)
obama is running for president. the object is to get more votes than the other guy, and one way to get more votes is to show how popular you are, because popularity breeds popularity. so, if his stated objective is to get elected president, and if one way to do that is to show how popular he is, why shouldn't he give his acceptance speech in front of 70,000 people?
what am i missing? should he hold his rallies in front of green screens like mccain, because, i have to say, visually that was inspiring.
Reply To This is your friend, PosterNutbag.
Moe Lane July 24th, 2008 at 3:07 p.m. CDT (link)
Please learn how to thread your comments properly.
The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC.I've been usurped!wait, i'm confused
PosterNutbag July 24th, 2008 at 2:56 p.m. CDT (link)
obama is running for president. the object is to get more votes than the other guy, and one way to get more votes is to show how popular you are, because popularity breeds popularity. so, if his stated objective is to get elected president, and if one way to do that is to show how popular he is, why shouldn't he give his acceptance speech in front of 70,000 people?
what am i missing? should he hold his rallies in front of green screens like mccain, because, i have to say, visually that was inspiring.
Trend
Hermes July 24th, 2008 at 5:55 p.m. CDT (link)
Were Obama's acceptance speech in front of the masses merely a pep rally type event to fire up the Dems, I would say, "Over the top, but within the bounds of normal campaign year grandstanding." For our friend, Senator Obama, however, this is far from a small blip on the radar. He LIVES for mass audiences; indeed, he seems to badly dislike small, town-hall sytle meetings. Most of Obama's appeal comes strictly from mass psychology (or the psychological drives of crowds). You have pointed out this phenomena in your question. Obama, like all good megalomaniacs, entirely depends on the approval of cheering masses. His ego rises and falls on such things. That is hardly the mark of a stateman. A statesman, rather, clings not to public glory but to the idea of having done his country proud. A statesman acts in the interests of his nation, not his own ego. A statesman is a consummate professional. He does not need screaming masses to soothe his ego. Once again, Senator Obama shows that not only is he an egomaniac, but also an unprofessional demagogue and rabble rouser. This country deserves better.
It's been my experience that nutroots are always confused! n/t
Vegas_Rick July 24th, 2008 at 6:09 p.m. CDT (link)
n/t
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