We were founded by, and populated through immigration from nations that had absolutely NO concept of representative rule in their history (OK, some of the Greeks & Italians had a distant one – but it was literally ancient history in 1776).

Now, this isn’t an argument for actual open borders…

But to say that America needs to raise walls & shut out the world – that we need to restrict immigration because immigrants won’t vote the way we’d like… Is contrary to our history, and in some ways a self-fulfilling prophecy (as it creates legitimacy for the Dems to clam we in the GOP all hate immigrants, thus incentivizing immigrants to vote Democrat).

Further, on the issue of economics, what is good for American corporations is good for the people of America – as it is the corporations, not the government, that form the foundation of our economy.

Every time the government tries to alter economic fundamentals – for example trying to ‘create’ jobs or influence hiring – they invariably screw it up.

The market allocates jobs where they are supposed to be… Let the market do it’s job…

Now, I can understand a desire for limited government. But to replace elected officials with unelected corporations is not democracy or freedom; it leads to the direction of feudalism. Now, I can understand that feudalism can be called a conservative position, but I would hope that most here have a problem with it.

LEGAL Immigration adds jobs to the US economy, as each individual person who moves to the USA is another consumer, increasing demand for goods and services, which increases the market for new firms (or bigger old ones) & new workers…

There is absolutely nothing wrong with H1Bs. They are a creation of our ridiculously difficult and restricted immigration system – of excessive government regulation.

Attempting to ‘protect’ jobs merely raises prices for everyone in the economy – including the majority who have jobs based on their own skills, not government meddling.

Outsourcing is a GOOD THING vs having companies go out of business, and is often a reaction to excessive government.

Just for the record, I personally think we should have an immigration moratorium of 10 years. That should be followed by an assimilation process, including the legalization of English as the official language. No more gov’t forms in Spanish, Creole, Cambodian, whatever. Shut the border down.

I also am not sure the free trade question is as settled as many on our side seem to think. I’m reading the book ‘Free Trade Doesn’t Work’ by Ian Fletcher. It’s a good read so far.

I am not ascribing a position to you. I’m just saying that much of the issue can be fruitfully discussed by first resolving the three questions above.

This fundamental issue goes to the heart ofthe conservative argument of reduction of taxes. If we allow firms to do hire as they deem fit, we would soon have rising corporate profits and growing unemployment. Remember immigrants dont vote Republican as MSM has painted our party as anti immigrant.

So is it better to persuade/force our firms to hire locally or let the free market principles run their course on hiring and employment ?
Shouldn’t our party be wary of the fact that for the time we have more babies born to immigrants than to naturalized citizens ?

1. Is the offshoring of jobs part of international trade?

2.. If so, doesn’t the government have the constitutional right to regulate international trade?

3. Does a ‘right’ for companies to ‘hire whoever they want’ really exist?

Government does have to worry about internal stability. Loads of people standing around without jobs is not conducive to stability. While government can’t stop ‘progress’, it doesn’t have to expedite it, either. Companies can make the decision to send jobs elsewhere. But government can and does make the decision whether a given company can exist and how it operates within its domain.

In recent years, Obama has bypassed Congress to issue all kinds of regulations as though he were a king.

India currently is relatively stable from a regulation standpoint more so than here currently. Many businesses don’t like operating where the rules can get changed at the whim of someone with an over-inflated ego.

I also understand the reason why they are moving jobs overseas has to do with cost of regulations issued from Congress, one can argue it is cost of labor too but that’s not the real issue.

A company has to be able to turn a profit in order to stay in business, if they can’t they go out of business. Regulations have gotten to the point that companies have a hard time competing if their production is based in the United States.

Some regulations are good, but too much regulation is arguably worse than no regulations.