It’s a good thing that Bambi campaigned on “bringing America together”. And it’s a good thing that the Democrat Party claims to have “a long and proud history of representing and protecting the interests of working Americans and guaranteeing personal liberties for all.”
Because if they didn’t say so, I wouldn’t know it.
If you have not been introduced to David Axelrod, you should be. You pay his salary. He’s Barack Obama’s right-hand man, has been for years, and holds the official title Senior Advisor to the President of the United States. A highly sought-after campaign strategist, here’s a man who knows something about sleaze..
He’s worked on, among many others:
- Obama’s 2004 Senate campaign.
- Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign.
- John Edwards‘ 2004 presidential campaign.
- Eliot Spitzer’s NY gubernatorial campaign.
In addition, he holds to his credit:
- a strategist for Chicago Mayor Dick Daley.
- former columnist at the Chicago Tribune.
- worked for the DCCC and Rahm Emanuel in the 2006 House elections.
How’s that for a bunch of skid-marks: Tony Rezco’s BFF Obama, Rahm Emanuel, John Edwards, Eliot Spitzer, Dick Daley. And did I even mention Oregon’s child-molesting Governor Neil Goldschmidt on whose re-election campaign Axelrod worked?
Guess what. Mister Sleaze Expert thinks Christian women, on the basis of their being Christian, are dogs. Maybe you think I’m kidding, or exaggerating.
Our own editor emeritus Moe Lane called this to our attention Friday (h/t George Joyce of American Thinker via Gateway Pundit).
On Thursday evening’s NPR quiz show “Wait Wait . . . Don’t Tell Me” senior Obama advisor David Axelrod made reference to Miss California Carrie Prejean as a dog. Politico is reporting that when Axelrod was asked on the show if he had helped the Obama’s choose their recently acquired dog Axelrod replied:
“I was only called in for the final three, and one was Miss California.”
Here’s the actual audio (h/t Hot Air)
So why would he say such a moronic thing? It’s obviously a dig on Miss California Carrie Prejean. The NPR guy (also paid by you and me) piled on immediately with “Dude! You just lost the carelessly topless demographic for 2012″.
And who is she and what has she done? And why has she now been equated — by the chief advisor to the frakking President of the United States, paid by you and me — to a dog? One reason, really.
She’s the one who said in response to a politically charged question at the Miss USA pageant:
And you know what, I think in my country, in my family, I think that I believe that a marriage should be between a man and a woman. No offense to anybody out there, but that’s how I was raised.
And for that she’s been smeared, lied about, misrepresented, mocked, and gotten her whole life examined like a Republican candidate. Since then it’s been revealed in prime-time news, derisively, that she’s had a boob job and posed in some racy modeling pictures. Why is that news, do you suppose? I’m not aware of any news article since April 20, making note of any other Miss USA candidate having had a boob job (said to be a very common practice) or racy modeling photos. Oh please - find one who *hasn’t* : THAT might actually be a news item. [And for the fellas our there, "Miss Rhode Island" and "google". Nuf said.]
So, why does Miss Prejean now meet public derision at the hands of Bambi’s top advisor? Is it because she’s had a boob job and some racy photos? I don’t recall Axelrod mentioning potential names for the presidential mutt like Pam Anderson or Carmen Electra. Did I miss it?
No, for one reason and for one reason only has she met this kind of scorn from this sort of man - an expert on sleaze, I repeat.
It is because she made a courageous stand, as a correct expression of Christian faith, for traditional marriage, knowing it might cost her the crown. So in Bambi-land, it’s cool to sit in church for 20 years where a pastor curses and rants against white people, and call that pastor your mentor. But any Christian woman that articulates her faith is to be equated with a dog. In the 4 days since saying it Axelrod has not retracted, apologized for, redacted, or in any way moderated that statement, nor has anybody else in the administration, to my knowledge.
Ergo, the official policy of the Obama administration is that Christian women are dogs.
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Somebody prove me wrong. But if I were you, lefty apologists, I would not work too hard at it. Your administration, and your party leadership, simply don’t care whether Christians believe this or not.
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mightymo Monday, May 18th at 1:38PM EDT (link)“wait wait don’t tell” is a COMEDY. Obama does not support same sex marriage, he only supports civil unions. Hence, he agrees with Ms. Prejean on that issue. To say that because Alexrod makes a joke that the Obama Administration’s official policy is that christian women are dog is quite the stretch. Did you think that the WH would start handing out collars or require flea baths?
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E Pluribus Unum Monday, May 18th at 1:48PM EDT (link)Raise your hand if you *actually* believe that Obama does not actually support SSM.
Yes, I’m aware of what he said on the campaign.
And listen up. David Axelrod is the Senior Advisor to the President of the United States. No matter where he is, and no matter what audience he is in front of.
Are you kidding me? If Karl Rove, at the time he was GWB’s right-hand-man, had gone on Leno and said John Kerry’s daughter looks like a horse, that would just be laughed off and forgotten?
Uh huh.
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bs Monday, May 18th at 3:30PM EDT (link)Hearing you guys try to give excuses for your man-God is just hilarious. Glad to have you drop by and show your inadequacies.
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bobojake Monday, May 18th at 1:49PM EDT (link)obama alway makes fun of the use rambo makes ofthe word mother.
There is no class act in obama, axle and rambo they are gutter mouths. They should apply to work in skidrow comedy houses but wouldn’t last long there because they don’t like liars and theives there either.
puh-LEAZE
stuckinthemiddle Monday, May 18th at 2:06PM EDT (link)it was a joke. Referring to what’s-her-face as a dog was tasteless but so what? Nobody except crackpots will actually believe that Obama thinks all Christian women are dogs.
And if memory serves, McCain and Rush both referred to Chelsea Clinton as the “new WH dog” when she was only 12 years old. I didn’t hear much outrage form the right back then.
so you were offended then and not now...how hypocritical of you...
Aaron Gardner Monday, May 18th at 2:20PM EDT (link)see how that works.
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Chelsea was a child.
stuckinthemiddle Monday, May 18th at 2:52PM EDT (link)Prejean is a grown-up (although I hear her tits are still pretty young) who has quite happily thrown herself into the limelight.
In the event, the incredibly stupid point of the OP was that Obama thinks all Christian women are dogs. This is just ridiculous. There’s enough substantive problems with the Obama adminstration that we don’t need to go making stuff up.
G'bye
Neil Stevens Monday, May 18th at 2:54PM EDT (link)I do hope you start treating your mother better, though. I know, she’s a woman and we know what you think of them, but she deserves better.
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Uma Richie Monday, May 18th at 2:58PM EDT (link)Thank you. It needed doing.
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I'm pretty sure that your Christian university doesn't like such language used towards women, Jennifer.
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Neil Stevens Monday, May 18th at 3:05PM EDT (link)Sounds like she resents all her female classmates. Who probably remind her of her mother.
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A female wrote that?
Uma Richie Monday, May 18th at 3:11PM EDT (link)The name Jennifer suggests that she’s in her mid-to-late-thirties. I’ll take an ad hominem guess that she resents the beautiful young Christian women all around her.
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I was pretty shocked as well...
aesthete Monday, May 18th at 5:16PM EDT (link)n/t
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i really don't think obama thinks all christian women are dogs.
ddlbb Tuesday, May 19th at 9:34AM EDT (link)i just think his man–as true representative of the president himself–was yucking it up for a laugh on a liberal (tell me an npr show that isn’t liberal) show. however, in doing so, he does represent the administration. this obama group thinks little of offending christians, the mentally disabled, and veterans (non-terrorist dhs-watchlist types). don’t be so quick to write it off as nonsense. the group you are a part of might be next with this crew, and you won’t think it’s so funny then. little by little as they chip away at the decency we should show one another, and with little to no criticism from the mainstream media, they are showing us how they marginalize and ridicule those that disagree with them. they hope to make it more acceptable to slap down and shut up those that disagree, to silence opposition. funny? i say frightening.
Maybe it was supposef to be a compliment.
Diogenes314 Tuesday, May 19th at 9:47AM EDT (link)I mean, have you seen what passes for attractive on the other side of the aisle?
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Warrior Tuesday, May 19th at 11:01AM EDT (link)I don’t recall and am not going to look it up, but if McCain and Rush called Chelsea a “dog” they were being rude and crude and owe her an apology.
However, there is a fundamental difference — Chelsea had not just uttered a political opinion with which they disagreed. Sure, it was her parents they were trying to attack and it was wrong to use Chelsea to do it.
But the Prejean matter is an entirely different circumstance. She was publically attacked for voicing a religious belief (with political overtones) after being ASKED to do so. Now, for a senior admin official to insult an individual citizen personally in a public forum is beyong the pale. He owes her an apology.
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The real reason Axelrod said it:
scarchin Monday, May 18th at 2:14PM EDT (link)This was no accident.
It was a calculated comment to send a message to those upset by Barry’s publicly stated position: “Don’t worry - we’ll back you when it counts.”
Barry will do exactly what the governor of NH did, campaign as opposed to homosexual marriage and then flip-flop at the last minute while he has majorities in both houses.
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Swamp_Yankee Monday, May 18th at 2:19PM EDT (link)Shows how useless Biden and the Dem Congress have become. But I’m not sure it will ever be a legislative issue. I think the gay lobby will be content with him stacking the federal benches with dozens of Margaret Marshalls. I think their big payoff will be the reversal of dont ask dont tell, but they will wait until afer the 2010 elections.
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right denisjh...Axelrod and you live in a vacuum...
Aaron Gardner Monday, May 18th at 2:46PM EDT (link)I think the context is pretty clear….apparently you are incapable of seeing that context.
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Proof that libs are just sick-o's
Maggie_in_Indiana Monday, May 18th at 3:22PM EDT (link)The jokes they laugh at publicly seem to be sleazy or slandering in the worst possible ways.
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Oh c’mon EPU. Axelrod is only trying to establish his “gansta” bona fides
Marcus_Traianus Monday, May 18th at 4:40PM EDT (link)Heck, we hear it almost everyday (if that is your thing) on radio, CD’s and television. It’s a popular culture cornerstone and meant to show how cool and humorous Axelrod is.
You and I just don’t understand. We are old, prudish, respectful and observant. Get with the times man, denigrating women is funny. Give the Obama Administration a break, would ya.
You know how this works, next week “The One” will come out, disavow the remarks and preach to the unwashed masses. This way, they can play both sides of the issues and everyone will fall down in amazement while “The One” and Axelrod chortle, spit out their lattes and guffaw over how everyone in this country is so gullible.
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Gengisdon Monday, May 18th at 8:43PM EDT (link)You know, I’m really just a lurker now, and I have always said to you guys it’s your sandbox, your rules….but this is patently absurd.
Miss California is a public figure, with all the rights and priveleges thereto. As is Mr. Axelrod. I personally suspect much of this is rather canny marketing on her and her manager’s part, and I wonder if she already knew about the negative publicity she was going to receive over what are, in truth, unremarkable and inoffensive pictures by today’s standards. Even if I accept on its face that her declaration during competition was from the very moral fiber of her being (which I cannot know), and even if I accept that the only reason for her second place finish and subsequent humiliation are exclusively products of political and cultural hostility (which I do not), that would not lead to the conclusion of the poster.
More importantly, I’ve always liked Redstate because, while obviously opposed to most of the things for which I advocate, it was a forum where some levels of decency and appropriateness were properly monitored. I could engage here freely, so long as I was respectful, and even when flamed, it was not quite like the wild, wild west of the liberal sites I visit and like less. I still read redstate everyday, even if I no longer am active.
The issue around a beautry pageant contestant appalls me more than anything else because it represents the lowest common denominator idiocy we’ve been reduced to. I could care less what Miss California thinks, as much as I could care less what Sean Penn or Susan Sarandon think. I do care what David Axlerod things, as he is actually relevant, but I must say I don’t really care what he thinks about Miss California. The fact that people on either side of the issue are particularly galvanized by it just emphasizes the triteness of our political culture.
But to run that headline on the frontpage here, is, well, at the very least disappointing. Have you no shame, sir, at long last? I do not agree with Miss California’s opinion, nor, from what I’ve gleaned from the 24 news cycle where you cannot avoid her, do I particularly like her. Does that mean I do not like Christian women? Please. Slam Axelrod all you want for being a newsmaker for his comments when he’s supposed to be one of the guys behind the curtain, sure, but the logical leap made her defies even blind partisanship and liberal loathing.
And assuming anyone even cares what I think anymore, I continue to acknowledge the suzerainity of the editors and recognize if this flag flies on this site it is with their permission and endorsement. And that I have no place or standing to criticize. But I do so nonetheless because some of you, I have to think, must blush a least a little to see such a silly and provocative statement on your site. As silly as some of the lunacy I read on Kos. That, my friends on the other side of the big ditch, ain’t good.
(BTW, EPU, still love ya man, but gotta call it like I see em. Feel free to fire at will).
But the Hebrew word, the word timshel—‘Thou mayest’— that gives a choice. It might be the most important word in the world. That says the way is open. That throws it right back on a man. For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.’
File this under "Don't we have better things to talk about?"
Jack_Savage Monday, May 18th at 8:49PM EDT (link)“I mean really guys, this is simply not worthy blah blah blah blah blahdy blah blah…
(snip)
….and I find it almost as bad as Kos, because I am fair minded and get my opinions from every source, including Marx and Chavez and Castro, but this is just too much and you should be more like me, a kind and humane referee in this crazy world of discourse blah blah blah blah.”
Thanks. Very nice. I am so sorry your side has such a problem with heterosexual women.
Yeah I have a problem with them
Gengisdon Monday, May 18th at 8:51PM EDT (link)I like them waaay too much :-).
But the Hebrew word, the word timshel—‘Thou mayest’— that gives a choice. It might be the most important word in the world. That says the way is open. That throws it right back on a man. For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.’
Actually that the One was elected....
JadedByPolitics Monday, May 18th at 8:52PM EDT (link)“just emphasizes the triteness of our political culture.”
So you care what Axelrod has to say? this man peddles in hate and that he called a woman a dog read bit*h does not bother you? well I would say your lurker status will go back to just that! If you cannot be bothered as a human beng by the man who is Obama’s number 1 guy nastily engaging the left on NPR by demeaning a woman who he disagrees with it very much shows that vapidness of your soul!
OBTW GREAT DIARY EPU! keep calling those nasty, disgusting, hateful leftards and do it daily! luckily you need not impress everyone especially those who have no skin in the game!
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this is not worthy of a comment to a front page article -nt
Doc Holliday Monday, May 18th at 8:55PM EDT (link)nt
Molon Labe!
If you don't like it, then get your party leaders to stop attacking conservative women.
Moe Lane Monday, May 18th at 8:55PM EDT (link)This transcends the issue of same-sex marriage; I support it, but I will not be quiet when trash behavior like Axelrod’s comes up.
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Oh, and to kowalski: there is nothing funny about this.
Moe Lane Monday, May 18th at 8:57PM EDT (link)I am not saying that you are attempting to find something funny in all of this; merely that we have no sense of humor on this topic, and have had none since roughly August of 2008.
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Gengisdon Monday, May 18th at 9:10PM EDT (link)I wrestled with writing it. Not like you need a lecture from me, which is what it turned into. I just read the piece, went from mild sympathy for a young woman caught in her 15 minutes getting piled on and irritated my side was paying attention to “whoa, that’s a little nuts.”
Actually, I think EPU cleverly embroiled me in trollpaper. Dagnabit!
But the Hebrew word, the word timshel—‘Thou mayest’— that gives a choice. It might be the most important word in the world. That says the way is open. That throws it right back on a man. For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.’
No huhu. [nt]
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E Pluribus Unum Monday, May 18th at 9:26PM EDT (link)but look below, I have my own rambling answer.
It’s all good, man.
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That stings some, Gengisdon
E Pluribus Unum Monday, May 18th at 9:22PM EDT (link)Because I respect your opinion - and your last parenthetical is welcome, and I believe you.
I don’t quite get you, on this. I care very much what David Axelrod thinks, which is precisely why his little completely unnecessary dig on Miss Prejean is such a big deal. Axelrod was not asked about Miss Prejean, he just took a gratuitous shot, for the fun of it.
Please remember, I did not lift our blonde friend in terms of importance, intellect, or even a consistent Christian walk. I held merely that she, put in a difficult spot by an utterly unfair question, acted with the courage of her convictions.
And her reward for it has been a full-scale media assault on her character, her past, and her future. And the Democrat government is right there along with the media.
But I reject that his comment was insignificant. Who he is, *makes* it significant. His position at the right ear of our president *makes* it significant. His refusal, in 4 days, to even moderate that statement, much less apologize for it, *makes* it stand as de facto ‘the opinion of the administration’. His long and illustrious history of working closely with sleazes is significant. This statement parks his butt in the same bleachers as his associates. All that, coupled with this administration’s and this party’s well-known desire to use courts to force SSM on an unwilling public, that is significant.
I believe, that he ridiculed her 100% because she expressed an article of Christian faith that is displeasing to him. Because of who he is, this is an assault by the Obama administration on her freedom of speech (and therefore *mine*), and her freedom of religion (and therefore *mine*).
I invite you to debate that.
My headline is perhaps a bit over the top, but tell me that every frakking day the left media do not do that to us on the right. To hear them tell it, Bush personally tortured Gitmo prisoners, and did the Abu Ghraib thing himself. Bush also personally wiretaps the homes of every American, puts their personal secrets in a file for later. He also aimed the hurricane at New Orleans and destroyed the levees.
So I’m getting my pound of flesh from this little bag of crap that is Obama’s right-hand man.
I’m not fighting by gentleman’s rules anymore. In fact, I’ll tell you this. I am actively looking for a good picture of a dog licking his butthole, so I can make a RedHot titled New pet at the EPU household - I’ve named him David Axelrod.
RedState ain’t The New Ledger, and in spite of some spite, you and I both know the level of discourse, even in this piece, is far, far above that of dKos, or even that of Huffington Post.
I am sorry you think this is beyond the pale, but I don’t agree with you on that.
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Gengisdon Monday, May 18th at 9:44PM EDT (link)which I suspect he does, he’ll never mention the incident again. The people who agree with him on Miss California might have gotten a chuckle, but they’ve already forgotten it. Meanwhile, he’s put some grease in the firepit here. Kind of an “own goal” of sorts.
EPU, I can’t agree with you that David Axelrod dissing Prejean is an assault on either freedom of speech or freedom of religion. Unless you think you launched a counterattack on his freedom of speech by criticizing him, which I do not think you did. Miss Prejean is free to say what she thinks, so is Axelrod, we all get to comment on it, and if you said “David Axelrod is a moron for interjecting himself into a dying and silly controversy, involving a !beauty queen! for crying out loud. He’s clearly not as smart and savvy as the media and the democrats would like to think” I would have said rock on, EPU, I’ve been thinking that for 4 days. It was the link from the lesser (Prejean) to the greater (Christian women) that sparked me.
And to the extent you see your post as counterbattery to media breathlessness on certain other red button topics, I can see your perspective. Lord knows I get the giggles sometimes from a certain breathlessness aspects of the media have for Obama. Nice fringe benefit for a prez, but not permanent or durable. Keep wondering when the sell-by date is going to come up.
But the Hebrew word, the word timshel—‘Thou mayest’— that gives a choice. It might be the most important word in the world. That says the way is open. That throws it right back on a man. For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.’
Excuse me tool why is Prejean lesser then a Christian woman?...
JadedByPolitics Monday, May 18th at 9:56PM EDT (link)who in the hell set you up as a moral judge of character on a woman you do not even know except for what the media has thrown out there in defense of their goal of gay marriage? how dare you say she is less then! Is there something un-Christian about being naked? Eve was naked in the garden of Eden….is their something un-Christian about speaking one’s mind? which is what she did! You find women in the pagent world somehow less then some idealized version of women or Christian women? if so why so!
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Jaded, I don't want to defend Gengis
Doc Holliday Monday, May 18th at 10:01PM EDT (link)but I think he was saying you can not argue from the specific (lesser) to the general (greater). On the other hand, he could have meant to demean with those words, but he at least gave himself a bit of cover.
Molon Labe!
Er...not what I meant
Gengisdon Monday, May 18th at 10:04PM EDT (link)I’ve reread that post a couple of times now and I think I can see how you got there, though. Jaded aptly summed up what I was getting at. Prejean is one woman who professes to be Christian. “Christian women” presumable would be all women who profess to be Christian. Group of one (lesser, smaller) versus group of millions (greater, bigger). Definitely did not intend for any other conclusion to be drawn.
But the Hebrew word, the word timshel—‘Thou mayest’— that gives a choice. It might be the most important word in the world. That says the way is open. That throws it right back on a man. For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.’
We are not really talking
Warrior Tuesday, May 19th at 10:48AM EDT (link)about going from the speciic to the general except in personal terms. But in political terms, the equation stands. It is highly likely that MOST Christian women oppose gay marriage. Axlerod did not abuse Ms. Prejean because she was a woman, a Christian woman, a Christian woman in a beauty pageant or a Christian woman in a beauty pageant who expressed an opinion. He trashed her because she opposed gay marriage, and by extension, he trashed anyone who opposes it. Of course, the fact that she was a woman and that the nature of the insult involved gender, the abuse can be narrowed down to women. However, the rest stands. (This should give pause to every young female colleg student out there who thinks the Dem party’s got their back. Only until YOU have an opinion that contradicts the prevailing progressive wind.)
But it was a political attack on a non-political figure — which is very scary. Think Joe the Plumber. Who’s the next innocent citizen going about their daily lives who will be mugged by someone in the O admin because they inadvertently stated their beliefs forthrightly?
This kind of thing can’t help but put the damper on anyone who might even think of uttering a political belief. Now, every knucklehead out there thinks it’s funny to abuse someone because they have opposing political views. This is not good. Didn’t Clinton, the First Black President and Obama, the Historic Black President, both claim to be ushering in a new, bi-partisan, less rancorous politcal climate in this country. Seems to me things have gotten much worse.
Gdon, you castigate EPU for over-reacting. But look closely at what’s happened. One of the most senior staff members of a sitting President has publically insulted a private citizen (I don’t care if she was in a beauty pageant, she didn’t sign on for personal abuse) because, when asked, she stated a personally held religious belief that contradicted the predominant political views of the party in power. He owes her an apology. The fact that he doesn’t shows just how thuggish, ugly, rude and childish has public liberal opinion become.
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final thoughts
E Pluribus Unum Monday, May 18th at 10:20PM EDT (link)because there’s a limit to how much fun can be had on a single topic that involves a beauty pageant contestant and a political hack.
Two things, really.
(1) it’s only my opinion, but I think the comment was planned. Certainly by Axelrod, and maybe set up by the host.
(2) I think Axelrod’s status as an official member of the Obama administration is chemically different. The same crack made by Chris Matthews or James Carville is just fluff. Axelrod saying it, that has power. The Obama administration has shown no qualms whatsoever about using its muscle to intimidate auto companies, banks, and investment firms. I find it troublesome, and I’m deadly serious about that. When they target somebody, that person is well and truly screwed.
Carthago delenda est
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So much for free speech.<nt>
gekster Monday, May 18th at 10:28PM EDT (link)A political party cannot be all things to all people.
It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.
Ronald Reagan
Every deer hunter in Michigan still likes to take a shot at a squirrel, rabbit, or even a troll every now and then.
Kinda like I care what Rove has to say
Gengisdon Monday, May 18th at 8:58PM EDT (link)and, while this isn’t what you’re driving it, I would have been perfectly happy without Axelrod making comments that blow up in his face. Now there is a bipartisan sport if I’ve ever seen one.
But the Hebrew word, the word timshel—‘Thou mayest’— that gives a choice. It might be the most important word in the world. That says the way is open. That throws it right back on a man. For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.’
why are you here? You have bashed the diarist
Doc Holliday Monday, May 18th at 9:05PM EDT (link)You have bashed us. You say you are not one of us,but you claim this diary unworthy of our standards? Then you “admit” you don’t really like this girl or her views, well that is very shocking! Did you think we might have supposed you were a Christian conservative taking intellectual umbrage with the tenor of a post even though it supported your views? It is so rare to see people criticizing their own cause there is no reason for you to set us straight.
Sir, you are simply talking your book, and if I were in charge I would not debate you, I would ban you for this. I love honest debate when logic is the rule, but my instincts and your posts tell me that would never occur.
Molon Labe!
I suppose then I should be thankful you are not
Gengisdon Monday, May 18th at 9:24PM EDT (link)But I’m not seeking to draw the attention of the spectre of Thomas, either.
I will leave to you to defend the logic of “ergo, David Axelrod thinks Christian women are dogs.” I think you may a problem in the size of the set you seek to extrapolate into from a very specific subset. But I don’t think of either of us would persuade the other. Thus, no puns intended, I’ll let sleeping dogs lie.
But the Hebrew word, the word timshel—‘Thou mayest’— that gives a choice. It might be the most important word in the world. That says the way is open. That throws it right back on a man. For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.’
Gengis, I did not write the piece
Doc Holliday Monday, May 18th at 9:33PM EDT (link)I think EPU might have been demonstrating absurdity by being absurd. But then again, it was Axelrod who allowed this broad brush to paint. Think about it, does Axelrod know Prejean personally? If he does not, why would he call her a dog? He can’t think she looks like a dog, so we must assume he thinks she thinks like a dog? And since he only knows her thoughts as those of a Christian conservative woman, well, there you go.
It was Axelrod who generalized, not EPU. If you noticed my previous comment in this thread, I took the most offense at Axelrod’s use of governmental power to demean and slander a young American citizen who is NOT in politics.
Molon Labe!
Too litte credit to Miss California
Gengisdon Monday, May 18th at 10:01PM EDT (link)She is an unquestionably public figure who made a statement which folks charged off with (to some extent, at her encoragement) and drew all sorts of socio/cultural and political meanings from. From her perspective this is probably a good thing. She’s more famous now than if she had actually won the thing without controversey while talking about how much she loved baby kittens, dolphins, and unicorns.
Since her commentary, her single comment has been expanded upon with her backstory, the hissing from Paris Hilton and other micro-celeb buffoons, her own near fiasco with what I continue to think are not terribly shocking photos, and additional public comments which are not exclusively about traditional marriage. She’s actively sought this role, and I thought was even going to be a spokesperson for an advocacy group or something like that. She’s on minute 12 of 15 and living it to the fullest.
But the Hebrew word, the word timshel—‘Thou mayest’— that gives a choice. It might be the most important word in the world. That says the way is open. That throws it right back on a man. For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.’
Yeah...and rape victims ask for it too huh...Gengisdon
Aaron Gardner Monday, May 18th at 10:09PM EDT (link)shouldn’t be wearing those sexy clothes huh Gengisdon….typical lefty…blame the victim.
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conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
the left is whistling past the graveyard Gengis
Doc Holliday Monday, May 18th at 10:09PM EDT (link)whenever someone says a story is soon to end, that is when you know it will go on and on. They are saying the Pelosi controversy will be forgotten in a week; good luck with that guys lol. They say Prejean is the reason for the controversy and she is about to be a nobody. Again, when you wish for something too hard, it never comes true. The fact is this story hurts the left, not us.
And she was made a public figure by Perez Hitlon’s vicious attacks added to by Axelrod. I don’t blame her a bit for responding to the attacks and not cowering at the leftist personal destruction machine. To many in this country this is just like when Clinton used his power to destroy Monica. People don’t like power hungry political hacks using their power to hurt our citizens. I say keep up the attacks, it is YOUR side that is making her famous.
Molon Labe!
My defense of that statement
E Pluribus Unum Monday, May 18th at 10:35PM EDT (link)Simply this: I believe the attention drawn to Miss Prejean is *entirely* about her stand against SSM, which she specifically stated (and has repeated ad nauseum since) was due to her Christian beliefs.
There’s a part of the diary that was originally in there, which I cut out after some discussion with high-ranking RedState muckety-mucks, in which I connected the dots more directly - short version being that standard Bible-following Christianity leads to a single possible conclusion inre SSM.
So I draw the dots thusly:
I see no chink in that argument, although you may.
Carthago delenda est
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Hey Mr. I don't like this FP story...reply to this is your friend!...nt
JadedByPolitics Monday, May 18th at 9:05PM EDT (link)..
Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy
I would like to point out something that has apparently been missed...
Aaron Gardner Monday, May 18th at 9:53PM EDT (link)Axelrod *repeated* that “Miss California” was one of three names that he was called in to consult on….meaning the original inference came from either Michelle or Barrack themselves.
So maybe we should be asking President Obama why he believes that a Christian Conservative woman is equatable to a dog as well.
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Well, he is married to one, and at least she claims
Tbone Monday, May 18th at 10:25PM EDT (link)a Christian affiliation.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
Tbone...she certainly doesn't claim to be conservative though...lol...nt
Aaron Gardner Monday, May 18th at 10:32PM EDT (link)Aaron’s Archive
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
ZING....which just goes to show....
JadedByPolitics Monday, May 18th at 10:34PM EDT (link)when you are pointing a finger you have three pointing back at yourself! Obama has shown absolutely ZERO respect for women and it continue’s even though “he won”!
Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy
True, that does justify the 20-point-type conclusion more (n/t)
Finrod Tuesday, May 19th at 1:14AM EDT (link).
Finrod’s First Law of Bandwidth:
A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it takes the bandwidth of ten thousand.
“So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late”
Too much Pink Floyd
Finrod Tuesday, May 19th at 10:30AM EDT (link)First we had Obama all but call Palin a pig, now Axelrod has called Miss California a dog, and Obama called us all sheep for listening to Rush Limbaugh.
C’mon, guys, put down the Pink Floyd and get to governing. Is there a dark side to Obama cancelling Bush’s plan to return to the moon? Is there a part of the free market Obama won’t meddle with? Was the 2008 election a momentary lapse of reason on the part of the nation? Is the economy about to hit the wall?
… I could continue this all day, heh.
Finrod’s First Law of Bandwidth:
A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it takes the bandwidth of ten thousand.
“So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late”
Oh Milton Freidman
kyle8 Tuesday, May 19th at 10:42AM EDT (link)How I wish you were here.
We could discuss Obamanomics and Have a Cigar together.
If you ask me will I vote for conservatives after this?
Will Umagumma do it!
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle